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For now, no new receivers

Posted by Darren Urban on September 28, 2010 – 8:59 pm

With the surgery and subsequent short-term shelving of Steve Breaston, the Cardinals re-signed receiver Onrea Jones and will see how their current wideout group does Sunday in San Diego before considering any other veteran additions, general manager Rod Graves said in a text message Tuesday night. The team will re-evaluate the position again after playing the Chargers, Graves added. The Cardinals feel if they can get through the next two games with the current group — Larry Fitzgerald, Andre Roberts, Stephen Williams, Max Komar and Jones — then both Breaston and Early Doucet can likely return after the bye (which comes in three weeks after a home game against New Orleans).


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48 Responses to “For now, no new receivers”

  1. By Slamdunk on Sep 28, 2010 | Reply

    They will be studying the unemployed player list carefully after the inuries they have suffered at WR.

  2. By JK on Sep 28, 2010 | Reply

    If they do end up signing someone let’s hope they make it a player that knows how to return punts and hold on to the football while doing so.

  3. By Wolfen on Sep 28, 2010 | Reply

    Yea lets wait til we loose a few til we get some more help, that makes sense. We were barely making it WITH Breaston what makes you think we are going to be able to keep up without him???

  4. By K-DUB on Sep 28, 2010 | Reply

    Darren,

    Would this be an opportunity to go for broke by lowering Fitz on the depth chart and starting Hall. One) to save Fitz since he’s also been bit by the injury bug and Two) DA has been struggling and it seems Hall is ready to jump in, a change of pace would be nice. I’ve noticed when DA comes off the field after three and outs with his head down, then the very next image is Max waiting by Whiz side with his helmet on.

  5. By Deveau on Sep 28, 2010 | Reply

    Darren,

    Off topic a bit, did Jefferson clear waivers and make the practice squad? And what is your professional opinion regarding DA?

    Kind regards,

    Cris

  6. By CardinalsFavor on Sep 28, 2010 | Reply

    Looks like we will be relying upon a heavy run force with Beanie, HT, and Hyphen to open up the airways.

  7. By Mr. Know It All on Sep 29, 2010 | Reply

    So the Cards have beat 2 sub par teams and got it handed to them by a contender.

    Hate to say it but the move to get rid of QB Matt L came with a price. The play that WR Steve “The Wonder” B scored on in the Preseason he was hit as he dove high toward the endzone and his legs moved awkwardly, hey it looked bad but he played on showing that toughness. Those things add up. Guess who threw the pass yep QB Matt L. Does WR Steve B make that kind of attempt if it was’nt QB Matt L 1st TD of the Preseason? We all know about the WR L Fitz Qb Matt L situation, I know these were just unfortunate injuries and it seems to be thankfully a full recovery story for both.

    Qb Matt L is a H Texan back up and Q Boldin is on the East Coast healthy and Ballin. The Ravens look good and if they beat “The Burgh” watch out.

    As HC K Whiz pointed out the Cards Defense could have had 6 take aways and that is exciting.

    An angry San Diego will be another test of where this Cards team is with another away game.

    Balance equals 26 Run Plays and 26 Pass plays.

    Go Cards!!!!!!!!!

  8. By Tyrelle on Sep 29, 2010 | Reply

    Taking a wait and see approach will get us nowhere but blown out. Why have a rookie who can’t field a punt try to catch the ball? Williams has not be playing the way he is suppose to. The balls that are thrown to him, he don’t catch them. If we have another Atlanta game, will changes be made?

  9. By shannonrobinson on Sep 29, 2010 | Reply

    Jason Wright just gave all of us some real good advice. Thanks Darren for reporting that insight. This next game will have something for everybody!

  10. By Darren Urban on Sep 29, 2010 | Reply

    K-Dub –

    RE: Changes on offense

    Hall could end up playing this season. But there is no scenario, unless he gets hurt again, where you’d lower Fitz on the depth chart.

  11. By Darren Urban on Sep 29, 2010 | Reply

    Deveau –

    RE: Jefferson and DA

    Jefferson did come back on the practice squad. As for D.A., he is what I expected him to be.

  12. By MIKEFLORIO on Sep 29, 2010 | Reply

    WOW this is crazy, coming off of 4 seasons of one of the leagues premier recieving corp. We had so much depth at this position in the past so much talent. I think it is safe to say that Boldin was the playmaker who made Fitz that much better. Boldin is getting it done in Baltimore while Fitz is just trying to catch a ball.

  13. By Darren Urban on Sep 29, 2010 | Reply

    MikeFlorio –

    RE: Fitz/Boldin

    I think it’s safe to say the quarterback played a big part of that. Boldin was/is a great player, but Fitz had enough big games with Warner/without Boldin to prove your point otherwise.

  14. By Tinted Facemask Visor on Sep 29, 2010 | Reply

    Who seriously couldn’t see this coming once they traded Boldin? Every year Boldin, Breaston, Doucet always got hurt. Fortunately, they got hurt at different times or maybe two of them would be out so they could get by. The injury to Fitz was bound to happen at some point. The NFL is too tough for a guy to make it through every game without being hurt. If they still had Boldin, there would be no issue at WR right now. I know it’s considered second guessing but this was totally expected, at least from my view.

    2009-Fitzgerald, Boldin, Breaston, Doucet, Urban, Morey
    2010-Fitzgerald, Williams, Komar, Roberts, Jones

  15. By Roy on Sep 29, 2010 | Reply

    I’m calling it right now. This is “THE BOLDIN CURSE” we will never have a great receiving corp again until we do right by Anquan.

    Just kidding.

  16. By andy on Sep 29, 2010 | Reply

    Bitch, cry, blah, blah, blah Max Hall. Bitch, cry, blah, blah, blah, if only Matt Leinart. Bitch, cry, blah, blah, blah we’re going to lose again, blah, blah, blah.

    GO BACK TO BEING COWBOYS FANS YOU WIMPS!

  17. By Joeazaur on Sep 29, 2010 | Reply

    DA is a good quarterback who just needs more time to get comfortable and used to this offense. I don’t understand why anyone still mentions Matt L. he isn’t on this team anymore, because of Coach. Coach sees DA not only now but what he can be and what his potential is. If inconsistent play gets three touchdown passes and two wins, I wonder what it could look like when DA is clicking. And as for “taking it to the MAX, Hall.” I can almost guarantee no better play will come from a rookie quarterback.

  18. By Joeazaur on Sep 29, 2010 | Reply

    also Coach Wiz is a wiz

  19. By Big D on Sep 29, 2010 | Reply

    36.4: Derek Anderson’s completion percentage when he throws to Larry Fitzgerald (12 of 33). Anderson’s completion percentage to other Cardinal receivers: 60.9.
    (saw this on the nfl site thought i would share it)

    im thinking DA could be good if he and fitz can get on the same page blame it on matt getting fitz hurt this season why we are looking shaky

  20. By H.Uzzell on Sep 29, 2010 | Reply

    We need to get more balls to the tight end, Ben Patrick can be a force at TE. We just need to use him. Getting Patrick involved more in passing attack can help free up wideouts. He has the same skills and more as a Dustin Keller, Brent Celek, Fasano, etc. WE HAVE GOT TO GET HIM MORE PASSES!

  21. By Nick Pepe on Sep 29, 2010 | Reply

    No need to call the national guard in yet people. 3 games in and first place. And the Cards can only (and will) get better. I like their chances against the Chargers (who are banged up as well and even more thin than us at WR). Running game looks very sound and the D is making plays when they have to. Eliminate the TO’s and we can handle the Chargers.
    Darren will Komar still cover on special teams? Curious as to what effect Breaston will have on special teams.

  22. By 98CardsFan on Sep 29, 2010 | Reply

    Darren
    Haven’t heard much about Kevin Curtis since he was cut by the Eagles, did he retire or suffering a long-term injury? Bringing him in for a few games would be a great move since he too can’t make it through all 16 games. There are also the likes of Javon Walker, L.Coles, Patrick Turner, David Tyree & Reggie Williams. None should be on the team past the season, but could help somewhat now.

    Teams that have in-season deficiencies on their roster make moves to patch them in order to remain competetive. Talk of M.Lynch to Green Bay, the Jags picking up T.Edwards to give them another option at QB, Camirillo to the Vikings and even Boldin to the Ravens. Some times it is detrimental to the team and to the fans who support them to just stand pat with what they have, even if the season is barely started.

    Why the Ravens would trade their back up QB: After the season they would not have him under contract and after Flacco’s performance (albeit to the browns) they could pick up a draft pick for him now. We facilitated the trade of Boldin, when regardless of what we could have gotten for him there was no way to supplant his production on the field, and the Ravens got a major offensive weapon. Flacco is their man, Bulger is not. Bulger fits Warner’s system, DA is just terrible (footwork/reads/accuarcy/demeanor). If they want a back up trade DA back to the Ravens straight up and reunite him with Ozzie.

    The pride of the coach should not stand in the way of the Organization putting themselves in the best situation (personnel wise) of winning, especially in this division. Which brings us back to coaching. Offensively things haven’t been executed and that makes me wonder as to why. We don’t have a real offensive coordinator, we have a guy responsible for pass plays and run plays and the coach who calls the plays. Give the OC job to one or the other. Our defensive coordinator needs to adapt. His splits, his alignments, his scheme in general are not getting it done. This ‘hybrid’ scheme doesn’t work with what we have. Either go to the 43 or a true 34. And to say our DEs don’t fit that mold I would have to disagree. One current player sticks out to me and that is the 49ers Justin Smith. He’s 6-4 285 and very disruptive. Another that comes to mind is Bruce Smith. The bulk of his sacks come as a 34 end. But maybe no one on the team comes close in terms of this man’s talent…

    Just some thoughts I had to get out. Thanks Darren

  23. By ChrisZ on Sep 29, 2010 | Reply

    So Darren, is Williams gonna start in the 2 spot in place of Breaston or is that undecided yet?

  24. By Darren Urban on Sep 29, 2010 | Reply

    Tinted –

    RE: Breaston

    Um, Breaston had missed one game in his previous three years. Not sure how that means he “always got hurt.”

  25. By Darren Urban on Sep 29, 2010 | Reply

    Nick –

    RE: Special teams

    A good question. My guess is, if Onrea Jones is healthy, he’ll take up some ST slack.

  26. By Darren Urban on Sep 29, 2010 | Reply

    98Cards –

    RE: Curtis and other stuff

    As far as I can tell, Curtis is unsigned but would be available.

    Let’s be clear on moving on a new player (which I will be blogging on QB-wise soon). A running back can be plugged right in (although Lynch hasn’t been moved, has he?). Edwards is a Jag as a backup. Boldin doesn’t count. He’s been with the team all through the offseason and camp, just like, for instance, Derek Anderson.

  27. By Darren Urban on Sep 29, 2010 | Reply

    ChrisZ –

    RE: SWilliams

    I would assume so.

  28. By Justin on Sep 29, 2010 | Reply

    DA is who we thought he would be…if we can muster 9 wins with him at the helm, then we can go to Max next year…however, if we start going under, then Max Hall needs to come in and get experience ASAP. All DA needs to do is control the game, feed the run, and do just enough…if he can’t, see ya!

  29. By MIKEFLORIO on Sep 29, 2010 | Reply

    Darren and thoughts of signing TE Byrd back and using Byrd and patrick as slots and throwing short routes like an Olgen or a Gonzales???????

  30. By TBru on Sep 29, 2010 | Reply

    “As for D.A., he is what I expected him to be.”

    Denny Green flashback for a second there

  31. By johnnybluenose on Sep 29, 2010 | Reply

    it’s hard not to think we won’t be 2-3 going into the bye week but i do think there is time to get better and we can win the division again and then, who knows. get the running game going, cut out the penalties, keep our defense off the field, get some takeaways and we can win. and try some trick plays to keep the opposition guessing and get the fans and players excited. try an onside kick when it’s unexpected, fake a field goal or run or throw in a punting situation. let us not be boring. and in case anyone cares, stevie baggs is alive and well and playing for the hamilton tigercats in the canadian football league.

  32. By Darren Urban on Sep 29, 2010 | Reply

    MikeFlorio –

    RE: Byrd

    I don’t expect Byrd to return.

  33. By Justin on Sep 29, 2010 | Reply

    We need DA to throw the ball well before we can run trick plays….

  34. By tRiGiDy22 on Sep 29, 2010 | Reply

    I hope the Cards front office is just blowing smoke up in the Air?? Like they have when they left us out of knowing of key surgery’s an Timetables?? of Key Players? Let me Guess Gabe Watson is Hurt?? LOL I hope Ownership can see that were in a Big state of need they should be working the Phones!! trying to make moves? An move on from problems we have? Early(hurt always)doucet, Andre(Can’t catch a cold) Roberts How about Trouble L.Coles? Kelly Washington?? At this Point! What are we going to do Keep Andre? for 3yrs like we did C.brown before we say he didn’t cut it? or keep them as long as Leinart before we say you know u don’t fit are system anymore or Did u ever?? Time for a Move 4 the Fans! or we going to rollover an call it a year an get ready for the Strike of 2011 an turn to dust’ like the Coyotes next door??Cards should ask Coyotes an D-backs if Attendance was down after they lost Key players??? I think every game now u can walk up an sit anywhere u choose! in the half empty Stadiums! Cards are on the track to turn Glendale into the new SunDevils stadiums play in front of 18000 maybe an a third are fans of the other team! Now I Get it why there is a Roof couple more Bad seasons We going to Open up That Tuna can! An Bye Bye A/C an Old Cards football will Be Back! LOL

  35. By AndyStandsUp on Sep 29, 2010 | Reply

    tRiGiDy22,
    I realize you’re a big Cards fan, but punctuation marks and grammar can be a friend.
    You’re a little too hard to read, guy.

  36. By chad d. on Sep 29, 2010 | Reply

    darren, now that my o jones prayers have been answered, why wouldn’t they put him in the two or three spot? he was looking good in the preseason and has been around the team a lot longer than these rookies. what confuses me is what they see in someone like komar or roberts but jones got cut? he’s got strength, and he can catch the ball.

  37. By Darren Urban on Sep 29, 2010 | Reply

    Chad D –

    RE: Onrea

    Obviously, he hasn’t convinced coaches of much, having been released so many times.

  38. By kauaicardsfan on Sep 29, 2010 | Reply

    Hey Darren,
    Can you pass on this nick name for Reagan Maui’a to Wolff? I think Wolff would like to use it in his commentaries and play breakdowns.

    Reagan ” Da Poi Pounder” Maui’a or just “Poi Pounder”

    I think that would fit him perfectly:) For those not knowing what a poi pounder is, its basically a solid piece of stone or Koa wood shaped to ” Mash” taro into poi.
    So let the “Poi Pounder” clear the way for Tim and Beanie!!!!

    GO CARDS!!!

  39. By Brad O'Neill on Sep 29, 2010 | Reply

    im not willing to write off fitz after a rough start with a new quarterback after sitting out the pre season. yes boldin was a gamer who helped make fitz into the great receiver he is but Fitz was great even when boldin was out.

    i think we will be just fine. cover your eyes the next two games (i still think we can win them but they are definitely dangerous) and get ready for the after bye domination we can look forward too.

  40. By Scott H on Sep 29, 2010 | Reply

    Joeazaur -

    Not my place to tell anyone they’re wrong, but i really have to wonder what you are basing your statements about Derek Anderson on. Honestly. What exactly has he done in his career to this point that you can point to as evidence that he is a good QB??? OK , he had that 2007 season. And? He was so bad over the past two years that even the Browns didn’t want him anymore. C’mon, man, that HAS to tell you something. AFTER the Browns didn’t want him anymore, I think the Cardinals were the only team that had any real interest in him. THAT has to tell you something, too! When you look around the league at how many really bad or barely average QB’s there are, don’t you have to wonder WHY there was so little interest in Anderson??? This man’s career completion percentage is not good at all, and that’s NOT a matter of opinion, that’s cold, hard fact. Numbers don’t lie. To respectfully disagree with you, i really don’t think there’s “something” that Whiz sees in this guy that no one does or no one else did. The Cardinals have been fairly fortunate to win two games against bad teams so far. On one hand, you could say that Anderson had very little to do with that. In other words, his play didn’t help the team. OR, you could say that Anderson had A LOT to do with that in that his play was absolutely a factor in the team playing below expectations. Either way, you’re right! Whiz is saying what he has to say right now. He’s not the kind of coach to throw guys under the bus and I like that about him. I think what we know about Whiz is that he will not stay with Anderson if his level of play stays where it is.

  41. By BLOOD RED on Sep 29, 2010 | Reply

    You guys have got to get over Matt and Anquan.I loved Q as much as anybody,but he is now in Baltimore and we have some very good young talent.I think Doucet is a young clone of Boldin and you will see he will end up having good carrer with cards!Remember Boldin had injury issues himself.And for Matt to sit behind Kurt and know as much about this offense to not win a job from DA says he was a lot worse than we even know!Matt thought he was to good and knew too much.I was around him at a club after NFC championship game win last year and he was talkin to ugly girls drinkin like he was a college kid and I knew he wasn’t what we needed for cards QB!(by the way Kurt was not there)

  42. By TBru on Sep 29, 2010 | Reply

    “What are we going to do Keep Andre? for 3yrs like we did C.brown before we say he didn’t cut it?”

    An IR season and the following training camp constitutes keeping a guy for 3 years? My brain hurts

  43. By Dre on Sep 29, 2010 | Reply

    Everybody Relax

    Rookie WRs isn’t the same as rookie QBs, so everybody relax. The WR positions is probably the easiest position for a rookie to settle into. An example is Dez Bryant, who is doing just as good if not better than our top 2 veteran WRs…Deshawn Jackson took one to the house on us in the playoff his rookie year. I rather have Fitzs leading a bunch of rookies at WR then to have DA leading a couple of rookie QBs.

    This week is not about our WRs, anyway…its about one of our former WR, Anquan Boldin. One of the games of the week the Ravens and the Steelers…a division game with two of the top defenses and two of the toughest WRs in the game. I’ve been waiting for this match up as soon as I heard “Q” was traded to the Raverns. Hinds Ward and Anquan Boldin…mann this is what football is all about.

    The other game of the week is the Eagles and the Redskins. Donovon McNabb returns to philly to meet the hottest QB in the league Micheal Vick, his friend and the guy he brought to Philly last year. I hope the Philly fans Boo the heck out of McNabb so Vick can see how they will treat him toward the end of his career.

    We are only missing a couple of pieces for us to be a Superbowl contender. Micheal Vick put us in the conversation immediately. Add a offensive of tackle, a pass rush and maybe a TE and we are back in business.

    This week I am going to enjoy some football and everything all that comes with it. Besides I am getting burned out with issue after issue with the Cards. I will watch the Cards game but its not high on my to do list. Someone told me “the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.”

  44. By Danny on Sep 29, 2010 | Reply

    Way to go giving up Boldin guys… way to go.

  45. By Lone-Eagle on Sep 29, 2010 | Reply

    You know, I am really tired of hearing all the nonsense regarding our recieveing corp. We had the best recieving tandem in the league but the front office wouldn’t pony up the money, so instead they gave him away for I believe a 3rd or 4th and 5th round pick, and then traded one pick for Rhodes. In my personnal opinion they gave him away. From all the stories I have read, the organization should have taken care of him last year! Hell, even Kurt was willing to give some of his salary to keep him there! Right now he is looking pretty good in Baltimore, and it has nothing to do with the QB. Q was awesome before Kurt got here. I beleive he was rookie of the year. But the organization did not want to pay him because he was injury prone. Well right now we have Fitz who is still not at 100 %, Doucet, Boldin’s replacement is out with hernia, Now Breaston is out with knee surgery!!! Now the organization is going to have to rely on unproven rookies. You know who else is looking pretty good? Michael Vick, and it only cost the Eagles 7 million! Oh and what about McNabb? He isn’t doing all that well in Washington, but then again he really doesn’t have the best weapons surrounding him. The best I can figure is that they are building for the future. I know the season is young, but I have checked out the rest of the division, as well as the teams we are going to have to play for the season. I am predicting an 8-8 season. Sorry, but that is how I see it.

  46. By cactus jeff on Sep 29, 2010 | Reply

    Darren,
    Dan Williams a bust? Shouldn’t first round picks start and wasn’t Robinson not even going to be resigned?

  47. By Darren Urban on Sep 29, 2010 | Reply

    Cactus –

    RE: Williams/Robinson

    They always wanted Robinson back. Bryan was waiting to make sure he wanted to come back after a hard season physically. As for first rounder and starting, DRC didn’t start until midway through his rookie year. And Beanie has never started. Are they busts too?

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