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No DC until after Super Bowl

Posted by Darren Urban on January 27, 2011 – 1:03 pm

Even with all the scuttlebutt about who Ken Whisenhunt might hire for defensive coordinator, no news is coming anytime soon. Whisenhunt, who was back in Tempe today after returning from the Senior Bowl, said he wants to wait until after the Super Bowl because he is hoping to talk to candidates from both Super Bowl teams. Obviously, that means the idea that Dolphins assistant Todd Bowles was “expected” to be the choice — as was reported this morning out in Florida — is probably off-base, since there are other possibilities (I’m not saying Bowles doesn’t get it, but if there are interviews to come and Whisenhunt is waiting, a decision clearly hasn’t been made yet).

What is interesting will be who he might look at from Green Bay, since there has long been speculation on who he will target with the Steelers. The Packers run a 3-4. Does he try to talk to defensive line coach Mike Trgovac, who was a DC in Carolina for six seasons? Safeties coach Darren Perry, with whom Whisenhunt coached with in Pittsburgh? Assistant head coach Winston Moss? (These are just guesses, of course. We’ll see what happens after the Packers and Steelers actually play).


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70 Responses to “No DC until after Super Bowl”

  1. By ralph on Jan 27, 2011 | Reply

    Where do you see Danny White coaching In the NFL or at ASU?

  2. By Darren Urban on Jan 27, 2011 | Reply

    Ralph —

    RE: Danny White

    I am not positive he will end up at either place.

  3. By JC_AZ on Jan 27, 2011 | Reply

    Why not Danny White for OC?

  4. By D on Jan 27, 2011 | Reply

    Winston Moss is on his way up…

  5. By Chad on Jan 27, 2011 | Reply

    Who’s Danny White?

  6. By Mike Ellingboe on Jan 27, 2011 | Reply

    Hello Ray Horton, looking forward to seeing what you come up with for our “D” next year (or 2012).

  7. By Nikko on Jan 27, 2011 | Reply

    Whiz Probably wants to talk to kevin greene from the packers! Duh

  8. By Darrel on Jan 27, 2011 | Reply

    Danny white went to the same highschool as me .. westwood in mesa and played qb for asu and the cowboys coached for the rattlers. And couple other teams his nephew is max hall

  9. By Darren Urban on Jan 27, 2011 | Reply

    Nikko —

    RE: Kevin Greene

    He has exactly two years of coaching experience — period — and only as OLB coach. I don’t see him being a DC candidate.

  10. By D on Jan 27, 2011 | Reply

    Say No to Dublin Mr. B! That game home game would not be blacked out here….

  11. By harlanlee on Jan 27, 2011 | Reply

    Hi, Darren –

    Just a quick side comment, re: Cards and Packers: Cards player payroll in 2010 was $89.96Mil, Packers player payroll $153.81. In other words, Packers paid their players almost twice as much as Cards paid their players. Packers are in the Super Bowl, the Cards have the #5 draft pick. Suppose there is any correlation between Payroll and Success? Duh. Why would any member of a Super Bowl coaching staff want to leave a team with the NFL’s highest player payroll and move to a team with the NFL’s lowest player payroll? Just thought I would ask. I suggest we Cards fans not get too excited about the possibility of landing any coaching help from Green Bay or Pittsburgh.

  12. By Darren Urban on Jan 27, 2011 | Reply

    Harlanlee —

    RE: Leaving one place for another

    You could have said the same thing about Whisenhunt once upon a time.

  13. By harlanlee1 on Jan 27, 2011 | Reply

    Touche! Absolutely right. And, since Whiz made a strong upwards move in his career, some assistant DC at Green Bay or Pittsburgh might want to do the same.

  14. By Eric JB on Jan 27, 2011 | Reply

    @ harlanlee

    Why? To get to the next level on their career path is why. For a position coach defensive co-ordinator is a great step up. Or how about the opportunity to turn around a lousy defense that is loaded with talent? That builds reputation. Reputation gets you further up the ladder.

  15. By alex on Jan 27, 2011 | Reply

    With Jeff Fisher’s recent firing from the Titans, do you think its a possibility that the cards interview him for DC?

  16. By Darren Urban on Jan 27, 2011 | Reply

    Alex —

    RE: Fisher

    He’s always been a 4-3 guy, so I wouldn’t be sure that would fit. I also wonder, knowing he’d be a hot HC candidate next season, if taking a DC job would be the right move for him or for the Cardinals.

  17. By jocards on Jan 27, 2011 | Reply

    There is that loaded with talent reference again. This defense hasn’t been really good for roughly ever. Now I realize there are some good players on that side of the ball and a lot of folks think that it was a problem with scheme. I do wonder however when it is time to blame the players. I’m no Bill Davis fan and that defense looked awful but it was NOT all coaching IMO.

  18. By JK on Jan 27, 2011 | Reply

    Hey Dareen,

    Maybe you could shead some light on this subject. Is it true that the cards are shopping Fitz around to dump the pay?

  19. By tyman on Jan 27, 2011 | Reply

    Urb kevin green may only have two years coaching, but he has called out plays as a player for years. I wouldnt rule him out. Hes the kind of guy you see motivating players and look how much hes got out of his LB’s. After saying all that, I think there are a lot of great defensive brains on both super bowl teams so whiz good job waiting things out. Good job whiz!!!

  20. By Darren Urban on Jan 27, 2011 | Reply

    JK —

    RE: Fitz trade

    Where the heck is this coming from? I mean, I hesitate even posting stuff like this.

  21. By stevedco on Jan 27, 2011 | Reply

    Payroll 2008-2009

    Chiefs, Ravens, Pats, Colts Packers

    Bottom 5 teams in the NFL in payroll.

    Teams have to go backwards in payroll to move forward.

    This team has shown no evidence of being cheap SINCE moving to UoP Stadium.

    Please remember Coach Whiz is one of the highest paid NFL coaches.

  22. By TBru on Jan 27, 2011 | Reply

    ESPN Insider, (which I do not subscribe to) is saying Cards open to the possibility of trading Fitz. It would have to be a blockbuster for them to think about it IMO.

    I thought Fisher right away, but doubt he would be interested in being a DC

    Who’s Danny White, really?

  23. By Mike Ellingboe on Jan 27, 2011 | Reply

    @Darren,

    ESPN’s rumor mill is reporting that we’re supposedly open to trading Fitz. I don’t subscribe to their magazine so I don’t know anything other than the headline.

    Sometimes you just have to hate the off-season.

  24. By brad oneill on Jan 27, 2011 | Reply

    kevin green seems like a great coach but i agree with darren that two years olb coaching experience is not what our team needs. green seems to be one of those coaches that can grab his guys and rally them. I have seen him huddle up on the sideline and impart some gem of wisdom on his players and it seems to be effective. i think if he was available for an assistant position he would be great but he will probably stay put with green bay and continue growing as a coach. until he does get a promotion.

    the 49ers got Vic Fangio and Lebeau isnt leaving, i am skeptical of butler jumping ship from a secure job and likely promotion if Lebeau retires. to a team where a coach is coming off a terrible year and works for owners that have a 90 year track record of short lived coaches.

    The longest serving coach I believe was jim Hanifan from 1980-1985 whiz is entering his 5th year which would be tying him for the record.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Arizona_Cardinals_head_coaches

  25. By Scott H on Jan 27, 2011 | Reply

    Well, I’ll say this for the approach the Cards are taking right now – in looking for defensive coaches that are part of successful programs, you really couldn’t pick two better places to look than Pittsburgh and Green Bay. And they BOTH use 3-4 schemes. IF this leads to a hire from one of these places, then I’ll give the Cards credit for staying their course, having a plan, and getting it done. If they come up empty handed and do a half-assed hire or “promotion” from within…they will go a long way toward proving – as many people already believe – that they don’t know what they’re doing. For the moment, I’m being optimistic and believing that I will be happy with what gets done. Being proven wrong will truly suck.

    PS – Really wouldn’t mind if they hired Bowles, either.

  26. By Mr. Know It All on Jan 27, 2011 | Reply

    Reports just in say L Fitz is now a Viking. Cards get 5 number one picks in 2011. Ha

  27. By cardinalsfan on Jan 27, 2011 | Reply

    Darren-

    i heard on espn that jeff fisher was fired form the titans. could he be a possible DC

  28. By georgiebird on Jan 27, 2011 | Reply

    Darren,
    I think Whiz had it too easy his 1st three years-mostly thanks to Warner.
    Whiz mindset in hiring a DC has been underwhelming for the following reasons:
    1) The defense has very little talent
    2) the Cardinals have been a defensive joke for 50 years
    3) most of the talented DC’s have come and gone.

    With the defensive unit, the Cardinals are hoping to reverse a trend that has existed for half a century. Taking chances with hiring a DC might be OK for teams who are defensively strong in most years like the Giants, Pats, Pitts, Bears, Vikings.
    Whiz should have taken one of big names with a good DC track record.
    Leaving the DC job to someone with little or no experience won’t work for the Cardinals. As I’ve mentioned before, the hiring of a DC will be the most important thing Whiz does all off-season. While we’re all waiting for Whiz to pull a rabbit out of the hat, if he should blow the DC hire, Whiz is all but gone. This offense will never score enough to cover a bad defense as has been the case in several seasons since 1960.
    Unless the Bidwills’ wallets have been shut, the DC was a very manageable hire for Whiz.

  29. By Big Red on Jan 27, 2011 | Reply

    Take your time Coach Whiz, we’re in no hurry. Be smart in your choice. Best advice…..SUPER BOWL no less.

  30. By Rob on Jan 27, 2011 | Reply

    Maybe Whiz is going to name himself the DC

  31. By In Whiz We Trust on Jan 27, 2011 | Reply

    RE – Fitz, this is from ESPNs Rumor Central

    Seemingly out of nowhere came a report Thursday from Jeff Howe of NESN, whose sources claim that Fitzgerald can be had in trade for the right price, though the Cardinals aren’t actively shopping the WR.

    There is no way we can trade Fitz. Trading our top two receivers in back to back years would put us years behind….

  32. By Cactus Jeff on Jan 27, 2011 | Reply

    Darren,
    The Fitz trade is coming out of New England radio, talk of trading one of their 2 first round draft picks. No way would I give up fitz! Crazy!

  33. By Chuck 1 on Jan 27, 2011 | Reply

    jocards, BINGO!!!

    If the Cards have so much talent, why is it that there is NOT ONE player who was selected for the 2010 All-Pro Team on Offense or Defense.

  34. By CardinalsFavor on Jan 27, 2011 | Reply

    Regardless of what LeBeau says, I feel it will be him.

  35. By Ellis on Jan 27, 2011 | Reply

    That dumb remark came from ESPN about Fitz in the rumor column. I swear ESPN has some of the dumbest people working for them! Why would they trade the face of their franchise for first round picks? They wouldn’t so people need to realize Fitz wants to be here and the organization wants him here. They will turn this all around. Ken is trying to build a structure here but people have to stand behind his decisions. Also on the Pittsburgh thing, the only reason he keeps going back there is because he knows those guys. He had dinner at all their houses. He worked with them for years and respected their work ethic. It just so happens they are currently employ…ed in Pittsburgh this wouldn’t be a question if they had all moved on to other teams. If I got pushed out of a company and went to work for another company, you bet your ass I’m going to grab every guy I worked with that I respected at the last company. Can’t deny he had a great team in place in Pitt and don’t forget he was supposed to take over that team, he and Cower built that franchise for Whiz not Tomlin so those are his guys. Why would you not want this super team you built a few years ago on your side? It’s the Rooney’s all over again you watch LeBeau will get pushed out they do it to everybody I remember when they tried to push Cower into retirement 2 years before he did. They are under minded but evil franchises always come out on top cause it is an evil political game in the NFL.

  36. By Ken on Jan 27, 2011 | Reply

    Not to be nosy but just curious why was Whisenhunt at the senior bowl if it doesn’t take place until the 29th. And about the Fitz trade I heard that too but it was just instigation by the radio hosts of AM 620

  37. By Daniel Christensen on Jan 28, 2011 | Reply

    Cards will not dump his salery. he is one of the best receivers you can get. why dump his salery when cardinals is one of the lowest salery paid team.? It would be nice to get a coach from pits og packers. that would make our defence more Explosiv i think from my point of view. and if the cardinals get their offence going, we could be very deadly :)

  38. By Cert 33 on Jan 28, 2011 | Reply

    Fisher was the highest “tenured” coach in the NFL. The Oilers/Titans were in the playoffs probably close to 65% of the years (’97-’10) that Fisher ran the show. The Bidwells should give Fisher the car keys (including GM) and sign this proven winner long term. Heck, he could even bring K. Collins with him. He’s probably the premier back-up up QB in the NFL (Like Don Strock used to be).

  39. By TSHIF on Jan 28, 2011 | Reply

    Darren, since all head coaching jobs have been filled with the departure of jeff fisher out of tennesse leave him as an option as a dc? Or with a resume like his is that something you think he wouldn’t even consider?

  40. By Jeff Gollin on Jan 28, 2011 | Reply

    I’m intrigued by the possible availability of Jeff Fisher.

    Although he’s not a 3-4 guy, he did grow up with – & has been a proponent of – the Buddy Ryan 46 defense which stresses unorthodox blitzing/overloading of one side etc.

    The Cardinal “D” under Pendergast and then Davis – while edging more and more toward a 3-4 – has really been more of a hybrid, multi-front, multi-scheme affair that at least philosophically figures to mesh with Fisher’s philosophy.

    Fisher has a long track record of aggressive, effective defenses. He obviously knows what he’s doing. If his presence could make our defense more effective, I think he’d be a terrific addition to our staff.

  41. By cattledog on Jan 28, 2011 | Reply

    darren what about chuck cecil as a dc?
    he just got the axe last week didn’t he?
    he’s got a mean side to him from what i remember of his short playing days here as a cardinal

  42. By Thomas on Jan 28, 2011 | Reply

    Darren, JK may have gotten it from the same place I just found it. In fact, that’s why I’d come here; to ask you the same question and to verify their claim that Fitz has “made it clear that he doesn’t want to stick around if the Cardinals aren’t going to be a serious contender.” I don’t seem to recall hearing or reading that anywhere before….

    “NESN.com reports the Cardinals could make Larry Fitzgerald available in trade “for the right price.”
    The Cardinals aren’t trying to “actively unload” Fitz, and NESN.com freely admits their sources don’t know if the team has had any “legitimate” discussions about trading their star receiver. We suspect any team wishing to acquire Fitz would have to blow Arizona’s socks off with a package of early-round draft picks and a viable starting quarterback. Fitzgerald’s contract is up after next season. He’s made it clear that he doesn’t want to stick around if the Cardinals aren’t going to be a serious contender.
    Source: NESN.com ”
    http://www.rotoworld.com/content/clubhouse_news.aspx?sport=NFL&majteam=ARZ

  43. By Darren Urban on Jan 28, 2011 | Reply

    TBru/Ellingboe —

    RE: Fitz/Danny White

    The Fitzgerald story is ridiculous. Here is the link: http://www.nesn.com/2011/01/sources-larry-fitzgerald-could-be-available-via-trade-but-only-for-right-price.html.
    Here is the second line of the story: “In fact, no one polled for this story had any direct knowledge of whether the Cardinals have had any legitimate discussions about trading their star receiver, so take that for what it’s worth.”

    As for White, he is a former Arizona State star (and Valley product) who was QB for the Cowboys for many years. He lives in Arizona and after many years of coaching arena football, wants to get into college or the NFL but wants to stay home — which means ASU or the Cardinals.

  44. By Darren Urban on Jan 28, 2011 | Reply

    Ken —

    RE: Coaches/Senior Bowl

    Unless a guy is coaching in the Senior Bowl, the coaches that go watch only the practices through Wednesday and then leave Thursday. No coaches really care about watching the game itself.

  45. By Darren Urban on Jan 28, 2011 | Reply

    Everyone —

    RE: Fisher as DC

    1) He’s been a 4-3 guy.
    2) I don’t know why he’d want to be a DC when next season he’ll be a hot commodity as a HC.
    3) Even if he did want to be a DC he’ll likely be in play for HC next season and it doesn’t make any sense to bring in a DC for one year when you know you’ll probably lose him and be right back where you started in 2012.

  46. By Ottis Anderson Fan on Jan 28, 2011 | Reply

    None of those GB guys would be on people’s minds if Dom Campers wasn’t brought to GB to install his brand of the Pittsburgh system. It all starts with Dom. That is not to say that those GB assistants wouldn’t make good candidates, but there is no question the hiring of Dom Capers last year, and some great GM work by Ted Thompson (my GM of the year) is a huge reason why GB is in the SB this year. Their defense has kept GB in ever game this year, and won a few also. Of GB’s six losses, four were by three points, and two by four points.

  47. By Darren Urban on Jan 28, 2011 | Reply

    Cattledog —

    RE: Cecil

    As I have said before, I don’t see him as a candidate.

  48. By Mike Ellingboe on Jan 28, 2011 | Reply

    @Darren,

    Appreciate the link. Calling that a rumor, even for ESPN, is ridiculous. Maybe we should start one here. For the right price, even though he’s not being actively shopped, Tom Brady can be had. Teams needing a QB include the AZ Cardinals.

  49. By K-DUB on Jan 28, 2011 | Reply

    Darren,

    What’s this rumor I’m reading about the Cards spending a home game over seas against the steelers? Have you heard of this? If not it can be googled.

  50. By matt on Jan 28, 2011 | Reply

    how about cardinals get jeff fisher for the DC

  51. By Darren Urban on Jan 28, 2011 | Reply

    K-Dub —

    RE: Ireland

    Guess I should blog something.

  52. By georgiebird on Jan 28, 2011 | Reply

    Darren,
    Let’s not take the Fitz trade rumors too lightly. Unlike most of the delusional fans on this site, many analysts are looking at a major rebuilding job with the Cardinals. If major rebuilding is at hand, then I would trade Fitz in a heartbeat and begin the rebuilding process in earnest.
    To hold on to Fitz with our QB problems and a lousy defense is downright stupid.
    The only case one could make for keeping Fitz is that the NFC West is a terrible division and anyone has a chance for one round in the playoffs. But if the Cardinals are trying to build a legitimate SB contender by 2015, then Fitz most definitely has to go. Let’s hope we can do something constructive with the players/drafts received for Fitz.
    There will be a lot of empty seats whether Fitz stays or goes.

  53. By Scott H on Jan 28, 2011 | Reply

    georgiebird –

    All I can say is thank God you are not running this team. You are the reason why it is a good thing pro teams don’t listen to the fans when making decisions. The reasons to keep Fitz are many, but I’m not going to bother because it will obviously be lost on you. And BTW, Fitz is just really entering his prime now. It ain’t like if the Cardinals were to make the SB in / by 2015, he would be over the hill. Part of what makes him SO special as a player is that he became so great so early in his career. With his attitude toward conditioning, he is likely to be in GREAT shape for many years to come. Which means he will be a great WR for many years to come. Though I disagree, you are entitled to your opinion. But please don’t speak like your way of thinking is the ONLY way to think and that if I don’t agree with you, then I’m “downright stupid.”

    Darren –

    Thank you SOOOOOOO MUCH for de-bunking this rumor about a Fitz trade. Never have I been so glad to hear you refer to anything as “ridiculous!” Let’s all please remember that there is ENTIRELY too much media in the world ( sports media included ) and that these people have more air time and pages to fill than there is actual news. They have to talk about SOMETHING…otherwise, there would be no reason to pay attention to them. Ridiculous sports stories come and go so frequently and so quickly anymore that if you blink, you will miss more than one. Geez, weren’t we just hearing a “story” about Dick Lebeau leaving the Steelers to come to Arizona??? Two days later, it was proven to be every bit as ridiculous as it seemed.

    RE: Jeff Fisher – He’d be a great DC but he’s also been a VERY GOOD head coach for the past 15 years or so. Why are we assuming that he won’t want to be a head coach again somewhere else??? He will have no problem getting another head coach position if he wants one. Why is he going to take a DC position right now when he can take a year off and name his price as a head coach next year? Makes no sense for him to jump back into a DC role…UNLESS that is what he really wants to do. ALSO, consider this – with the success he’s had as a head coach and what is basically a very good reputation around the NFL, I think if he takes a DC role anywhere, he automatically becomes a candidate to take over as head coach of that team. And that instantly creates a presure situation for that team’s current head coach. Some coaches might not want that feeling of someone looking over their shoulder and just waiting to step into their place. That said…I find the thought of Jeff Fisher as a head coach to be pretty appealing. Just sayin’….

  54. By Mike Ellingboe on Jan 28, 2011 | Reply

    @GeorgieBird,

    In today’s day and age of free agency very few teams are in need of major rebuilding. Our lousy defense has three recent/current Pro Bowlers, one other that should be in the Pro Bowl, and five young starters/on the verge of being starters. All we need there is a good DC and a legit outside pass rusher and we’re set. GB looked awful defensively last year, didn’t make much in the way of personnel changes but the second year in the 3-4 under Capers obviously took hold.

    Offensively, we’re not that much different, personnel-wise, than we were in 09. The major difference being that we replaced a franchise QB with a dud. Put Warner back in the huddle or draft Gabbert and I don’t see us being that far away from being a good offense again. That is, if we don’t go and do something crazy, like trading our best player and offensive weapon…

  55. By georgiebird on Jan 28, 2011 | Reply

    @Scott H,

    We all realize Fitz is the face of the franchise and he means a lot to the team-he’s a HOFer. I did not say to give Fitz away; there will be equal value coming back. If a good deal can’t be made than don’t trade him.
    Would you trade Fitz for one of the young All-Pro defensive linemen or Darelle Revis? I’d listen. It’s a lot harder to find All-Pro defensive caliber players than wide receivers.
    And if I was running the team, I could have put together the 6 wins needed to tie Whiz (including the gift from Sebastian).
    The Cardinals were arguably the worst team in football in 2010- If I were running the team, the Cards would still be the worst team in the league. So Scott, there’s no need to thank God-instead, save your prayers for something more rewarding like the lottery.

  56. By brad oneill on Jan 29, 2011 | Reply

    jeff fisher is taking a year off from coaching, then he will be a head coach somewhere. giants? maybe. he would obviously be great but he isn’t looking for a demotion. now maybe after a year off the guy might decide that dick lebeau has figured out the perfect retirement (work at a job you love without all the pressure of a head coach until you die) and become a great dc somewhere.

  57. By Scott H on Jan 29, 2011 | Reply

    georgiebird –

    The Cardinals will win a Super Bowl before I win a lottery! That’s how good my luck is! Hey, maybe I’m too attached to Fitz…that might be true. But it’s also true that he is a major reason why this team had the greatest level of success recently that they’ve had since I became a fan in the mid 1970’s. I will agree that GOOD WR are not hard to find in the draft every year. But Fitz isn’t just good. What he has accomplished in his career to this point puts him on a pace to be – possibly – one of the greatest to ever play the game at his position. He’s THAT special. Already the fastest to 600 catches in NFL history. Already tied Jerry Rice’s record for TD catches in a single post-season. I could go on, but…you get the point.

    I’ve been a Cardinal fan long enough to know that there just haven’t been that many TRULY special players who have worn a Cardinals uniform and did great things while they did. Aeneas Williams is one of those guys. Most of his career numbers were compiled here. But he ultimately had to go elsewhere to get a SB ring and it really sucked to watch that. I want to see Fitz win a SB ( at least one ) during his career and I want to see him do it in a Cardinals uniform. If Fitz ever decides – as Williams did – that he needed to go elsewhere to reach the top of the mountain, then so be it. But from an organizational standpoint, I DO NOT see it as necessary to trade Fitz as a necessary part of re-building. Heck, if Warner is here last year, this is still a 10-win team and in the playoffs again. Not that there is another Kurt Warner waiting to be had right now, but…the point is, this team is only a solid QB away from being the NFC West winner again. We get some significant improvement on the defensive side of the ball as well and we’re back in business. There is no need to trade the best player on the team – and a guy just reaching his prime – in order to get better.

    PS – any lottery numbers you would suggest?

  58. By drumm-1 on Jan 30, 2011 | Reply

    @scott H, I believe the rams lost that superbowl that Aeneas play’d with them, but it was nice for him to get a chance to win one being that he was on the back end of his career.

    What qb out there do you think would fit this offense best i’m thinking Bulger or McNabb… i’m just not a fan of Kolb for some reason..

  59. By Scott H on Jan 30, 2011 | Reply

    drumm-1

    Maybe I forgot my history? I thought Aeneas was with the Rams for BOTH of the SB’s they played while Warner was there…one lost and one won. No? Sorry if I got that wrong.

    Funny you should ask about QB’s…because it is being reported as of today that the Eagles are going to put the francise tag on Vick. That MIGHT mean that they are going to field offers for Kevin Kolb. While you may feel otherwise, I would put him at the top of my list. No sure thing that he will be a good QB in this league but he has definitely shown flashes when he’s played. I don’t think Bulger is up to being a F/T starter anymore. As a veteran back-up, I’d love to have him here. And McNabb? How shall I put this….how ’bout NO FRIGGIN’ WAY! I think we saw what McNabb is at this point with Washington this past season. And I say no thanks.

  60. By Cert 33 on Jan 30, 2011 | Reply

    Just to be absolutely clear. I am saying Jeff Fisher for HC, not DC. He’s not going to be an assistant to Whiz and to suggest that a proven longterm winner like Fisher would is insulting. Whiz has taken the Haley-Warner machine as far as it is going to go. No more Todd Haley, no more Kurt Warner. Whiz has been exposed. The Bidwells should run, don’t walk, to Fisher’s door with a long-term contract that includes the HC and GM position. This guy stayed with the same team for 16 yrs.! Playoffs approximately 65% of those years.

  61. By Darren Urban on Jan 31, 2011 | Reply

    Cert 33 —

    RE: Fisher

    Fisher was HC for 16 years. Made playoffs in six of those seasons. By my math, that’s 38 percent, not 65 percent.

  62. By drumm-1 on Jan 31, 2011 | Reply

    @Cert 33, how do you think Fisher got to 16 years with one team, the owners stuck with him and didn’t fire him the first time something went wrong,unlike some of you people calling for his head after 3 pretty good season ( compared to the last 15)and 1 bad one..How can you build a team if you want to change coach’s everytime the team don’t make the playoffs, as Darren said 6 winning season out of 16, that means he’s had 10 bad season,give the man some time to reload before WE as fans call for his firing.. Here’s a stat for you (Fisher 16yrs 1 superbowl.. Whiz 4yrs 1 superbowl, granted both of them lost…My point is lets give him a chance at least..

  63. By drumm-1 on Jan 31, 2011 | Reply

    @Cert 33, I’ts funny how you blame Whiz for the bad season but give him no credit for the pretty good one’s we’ve had.. Warner was here 2 years before whiz came and never made the playoff,so dont you think whiz had something to do with it.. so does that mean Jimmy Johnson can’t coach it was all Troy Aikman, or Tony Dungy it was all Peyton…

  64. By stevedco on Jan 31, 2011 | Reply

    All the play caller haters of Coach Whiz go look at Somers piece on the AZ vs. GB game. He talks about the tremendous job play calling by none other than Coach Whiz.

    Go read any of the 2010 draft reviews and it talks about how Washington, Williams, Schofield, Roberts and Skelton all came on strong to end the year. That’s a lot of talent being added to a bad team.

  65. By UC on Jan 31, 2011 | Reply

    @SteveDCO –

    All Somers does is express his OPINION that King Whiz was calling the plays. We all know that Warner audibled a lot during games, and Somers provides no insight into just how often Warner audibled during that game. Besides, Warner played so freaking awesome during that game that maybe King Whiz’s stupid playcalling didn’t matter.

    Furthermore, the sports “reporters” at the Repulsive have been known for decades to grovel for whatever attention they can get from pro athletes in the area, and that seems to go double for King Whiz. They’re obviously King Whiz’s outlet of choice when he needs to disseminate some damage control to the public, so no thinking person is going to put much stock into what they say about him.

  66. By drumm-1 on Jan 31, 2011 | Reply

    @ Scott H, it’s nothing personal against Kolb but i haven’t seen enough of his play and it might cost us a lot to get him,but i would give up a #3 draft pick for Orten, whats your thought on him?

  67. By Scott H on Jan 31, 2011 | Reply

    drumm-1

    Orton? Well…they could do worse. Orton was crazy-good for much of the past season but fizzled later in the season. He just seems to be one of those guys who can be great for a stretch but will then turn around and be really bad for the same number of games. The lack of consistency is a concern. BUT…if we are drafting a QB this April who looks to be the future for the franchise, I would be fine with Orton as our veteran guy for a season or two. Still think Kolb has more up-side.

    And call me crazy, but another veteran guy who I like – and is very off the radar – is Sage Rosenfells. He was having an AMAZING pre-season last year for the Vikings. Then, Favre came back and, well, there ya have it. And if memory serves, I think he also had some pretty good games in relief of Matt Schaub with the Texans. Yes? Darren, can you shed any light on that?

    Bottom line, if Kolb can be obtained, I say get him. He can be our present AND our future. If we are drafting a guy to be our future in this year’s draft, we need a solid veteran. At that point, guys like Vince Young or McNabb make little sense because neither guy is going to want to be a mentor for a guy who is eventually taking over. That works for me ’cause I don’t want any part of either one of them. So…Orton, Bulger, Rosenfels…a few other guys I’m not thinking of right now…probably all about the same. In order of preference, I take Rosenfels, Orton, Bulger.

    Hmmm…hey, who is the guy who was the QB with the Jaguars before Garrard took over there? He’s the back-up for the Steelers these days, if I’m not mistaken. He comes to mind…wonder if he’s available.

  68. By drumm-1 on Jan 31, 2011 | Reply

    @ Scott H… Byron Leftwich is the QB you’re thinking of, i wouldn’t mind picking him up also and Rosenfels never came to mind he might be the best of them all, but please no way on Vince Young…Thanks for your input…Lets GO Cardinals..

  69. By Scott H on Feb 1, 2011 | Reply

    Drumm-1

    Ah, Byron Leftwich! Yes, that’s the guy! Thank you. Couldn’t remember that name and it was driving me carzy.

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