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Cards get extra pick, Fitz, and giving back

Posted by Darren Urban on March 25, 2011 – 3:07 pm

The NFL finally announced the 2011 compensatory draft picks Friday. The Cardinals ended up with a bonus seventh rounder (248th overall, and their only seventh rounder since their own pick was traded away in the Kerry Rhodes deal) right at the end of the draft and it wasn’t even because they suffered big free-agent losses. Yep — if you had been expecting the loss of LB Karlos Dansby (and K Neil Rackers) to gain the Cards a good pick, you were wrong. The Cards signed FAs Rex Hadnot, K Jay Feely and LB Paris Lenon, and I’d guess Lenon and Feely played well enough to offset Dansby and Rackers.

The reason the Cardinals got an extra pick is because the NFL wants to make sure there are 32 comp picks overall to balance out the draft, so after they doled out the picks based on teams losing key free agents (the Panthers, for example, got an extra third-rounder and sixth-rounder for losing Julius Peppers and A.J. Feeley and not signing anyone of note) there were still 11 picks needed to get to 32. So the top 11 teams in the draft order (Arizona, of course, being at No. 5) got a extra seventh at the very back of the draft.

(Don’t ask how the league comes up with the exact formula of why some free agents are more important than others. It’s not public knowledge, but it is based on contract size, playing time and postseason honors. And realize that losing Antrel Rolle didn’t count because he was cut and didn’t have his contract expire. Same reason it didn’t hurt the Cards to sign Alan Faneca, Derek Anderson, Jay Feely and Joey Porter).

– Posted a story on the need for Fitz to get a quarterback. Yes, it sounds obvious, and on many levels it is. But Fitz’s quest for greatness means there have to be style points in his numbers (because he still had stats this season). There have to be wins and it has to matter. So in some ways, this situation is deeper than the obvious.

– Michael Bidwill was on hand Thursday afternoon to present a check for$21,250 to the Ronald McDonald House from Cardinals Charities and Albertson’s. raised through the Cards’ annual golf tourney. Valerie Slowik, the wife of quality control coach Ryan Slowik, is heavily involved in helping the House.


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43 Responses to “Cards get extra pick, Fitz, and giving back”

  1. By Mandy Sierra on Mar 25, 2011 | Reply

    If the Cards have the second round pick…and Hankerson from U.M. hasnt been called……its a f’n no brainer to bring the next Boldin here……..

  2. By DoblerFan on Mar 25, 2011 | Reply

    Bummed. I surely thought we would receive a decent comp. pick with losing Dansby. Stats do show that P. Lenon did have a better year though(at quite a bit cheaper salary).
    Darren, wasn’t the Hadnot contract for 2 yaers?

  3. By Darren Urban on Mar 25, 2011 | Reply

    DoblerFan –

    RE: Hadnot deal

    Rex is under contract through 2012.

  4. By brad oneill on Mar 25, 2011 | Reply

    that pick may actually be worth something since unless the cba gets done they wont be able to sign any free agents. We will have a guy who probably wont make it who we cant talk too that other teams wouldnt be able to have and not talk too until the cba got done.

    yea baby.

  5. By Joe daddy on Mar 25, 2011 | Reply

    I thought rex was good in camp and played decent when he got his shot. I hope hes one of the starters at G or even center if Sendlein isnt resigned. What do you think D? Does Rex project as a starter going into this year?

  6. By AndyStandsUp on Mar 25, 2011 | Reply

    Why hasn’t someone (including AZCards.com) set up an interview with the guy that supposedly has the compensatory formula figured out? AdamJT13 or something like that.

  7. By Skiptim on Mar 25, 2011 | Reply

    … wow

    How does the NFL justify giving the Titans a 4th round pick instead of us? They lost Alge Crumpler, who had 52 receiving yards. And they lost Kyle Vanden Bosch, who had 4 sacks, but replaced him with Jason Babin, who had 12.5 and went to the Pro Bowl.

  8. By R Robles on Mar 25, 2011 | Reply

    Andre Johnsons good but OVERATED. Fitzgeralds stats were better just minus the TD’s because of QB issues he still managed to pull off 90 receptions from what 4 different qb’s while in losing efforts.Johnson has a Pro Bowl QB he has no excuse. Compare Larry’s highlights to Andre’s Fitz is all over the field catching left & right while Andre’s catch’s are in zone.Go Larry!!

  9. By Phoenixraven1 on Mar 25, 2011 | Reply

    Good update for a boring CBA less off season…

  10. By Jeff Gollin on Mar 26, 2011 | Reply

    Darren – You said: “(Don’t ask how the league comes up with the exact formula of why some free agents are more important than others. It’s not public knowledge, but it is based on contract size, playing time and postseason honors.”

    One other criteria the League uses. If it’s New England, Baltimore or the Giants, more (and better) compensatory picks are awarded. If it’s the Cardinals, we get jobbed – year after year.

  11. By Bill L on Mar 26, 2011 | Reply

    If Fitz wants MONEY And Meaningful Games……then color him GONE….money, the Cards will give him, but the Cards are/will be a Non-factor for Decades? ……unless the vision has changed in MORE THAN JUST WORDS and names.

    Even so they are Years away from being where SF is right now. Peterson and a FA QB that works out(Matt?) or a drafted QB next year(Luck, Jones, Barkley, etc) will put SF over the top and into a long time Div Champ.

    The Cards have NO QB and NO OL……until they admit to both of those and start to fix them, they can pay Fitz and draft Millers ’til the cows come home…….and they will be the worst team in a Bad division for a Long, Long time.

    To start the Cards NEED 2 Tackles……if one of the 2 QBs are still there, they can probably turn #5 and their 2nd rounder into 2 of the 3 or 4 best tackles in this draft. Minn might love one of the QBs. The Cards don’t need HOF or even Pro-Bowl Tackles, but for a good team they should aim for top 1/3 to top 1/4 tackles. Next year a QB, and the Cards could be on their way.

    But, I suspect same OL’ same OL’. BS and flash with no substance……and BANK that Network Money………Time will tell.

  12. By Darren Urban on Mar 26, 2011 | Reply

    Joe Daddy –

    RE: Hadnot

    Given all the free agents, yes, I think there is a good chance Hadnot is starting somewhere on the line in 2011.

  13. By Javi on Mar 26, 2011 | Reply

    Darren do you believe that there is a possibility that Cam Newton will go to Arizona?

  14. By Kent on Mar 26, 2011 | Reply

    @skitptim

    Because the Titans lost more qualitfying Free Agents than they signed. Babin was cut. So he does not count. VBD had a solid season and signed a nice big contract in Detroit.

    We did not get a pick becasue the only qualifying Free Agent we lost was Dnabsy and we signed both Lenon and Feely.

    Technically we should not have got any at all, except the NFL wants to hand out 32 Comp picks a season.

  15. By Jon L on Mar 26, 2011 | Reply

    Hey Darren,
    As the draft nears I am starting to get a little antsy. My views on who the cards should take keep changing as we get closer to the draft. I can’t say that I would mind the cards taking Gabbart with the 5th pick if he is still on the board because of his possible trade value and his potential but I have alot of faith in skelton and I wanted to see him get a shot this year. Do you think that both Hall and Skelton will still be on the roster if the cards draft a QB early? I mean its not like we need 3 potential projects at QB.

  16. By Chuck 1 on Mar 26, 2011 | Reply

    Mandy, with all due respect, I think that you know that the Cards need help at other positions much more than they do at WR e.g. LB, DL, and OL to name just three positions.

  17. By Brandon on Mar 26, 2011 | Reply

    Hey Darren,

    Do the cardinals still have 2 sixth rounds picks from trading Reggie Wells in
    Aug. I thought they did but I saw several draft boards that didnt reflect that and do u think the cardinals would consider moving Levi back to rt I think he was better there and even Jamie dukes on nfl network agreed the other day

  18. By Joseph P. on Mar 27, 2011 | Reply

    I agree with all comments above. My answer to questions posted is basically the same as my comments to posted opinions. The Cardinals ARE the Bidwells.
    The Cardinals BECAUSE of the Bidwells have ALWAYS been, are NOW and will forever BE treated like step children by the NFL. THIS scenario plays out EVERY year no matter WHERE the Cardinals finish in their division. P*ss poor planning, P*SS poor business savvy, plus tight purse strings = Cardinal quality.
    It almost appears like the Bidwells purposely make the wrong decisions at key times. I saw a ray of hope when they hired Coach WIZ and when they signed up Warner, but hey! You can’t have a losing record ALL the TIME! Even the Buccaneers have had better seasons than us! Same decisions, same owners, same Cardinals–in decisions GALOR!!!

  19. By cardsalltheway on Mar 27, 2011 | Reply

    Darren,
    We know of 2 teams that have been fined for not following NFL rules, so how long do we have to wait before the other 3 teams are revealed?

  20. By Darren Urban on Mar 27, 2011 | Reply

    Javi –

    RE: Newton

    I would never say never in his case, but I think it’s unlikely.

  21. By Darren Urban on Mar 27, 2011 | Reply

    Jon L –

    RE: QB roster

    I think Skelton will be on the roster. I think everyone else is in jeopardy depending on the QBs acquired this offseason.

  22. By Darren Urban on Mar 27, 2011 | Reply

    Brandon –

    RE: Draft picks

    The Cards do have 2 sixth-rounders, one extra from the Wells trade. As for moving Levi, as of now, there are no plans to move him back to the right side.

  23. By Darren Urban on Mar 27, 2011 | Reply

    Joseph P –

    RE: Owenership

    Is it really that hard to spell their name right? I am just stunned how many fans can’t do that.

    And I am trying to figure out your point as well. What the heck does your rant have to do with anything posted above? More to the point, what suddenly got you in such a tizzy? Nothing is even happening in the NFL right now and hasn’t since the beginning of the month. How can you possibly have so much bile built up? Even “cardsalltheway” is seemingly more mellow right now.

  24. By Darren Urban on Mar 27, 2011 | Reply

    Cardsall –

    RE: Teams busted

    Not sure they will be revealed. I feel pretty safe in saying I don’t think one is the Cards, so otherwise, I wouldn’t know.

  25. By SteveDCO on Mar 27, 2011 | Reply

    having been a Cardinals fan since the days of St Louis, I can say the Bidwills have not always been the best owners.

    That said, since the move to UoP Stadium I think they have done some very nice things and been good owners.

    FAs aren’t leaving in mass like days of old and they show all signs hat they will re-sign Fitz and go ge a QB. I think the team lost 2 players they didn’t want to loose Warner and Rolle. Warner leaving couldn’t have turned out worse and Rolle leaving couldn’t have turned out better.

    I feel good about where this team is heading under M. Bidwill’s leadership. Everyone knows a QB and OLBare the biggest pressing needs. I’m guessing Bulger, Miller and maybe a trade or 2nd draft pick will be used to

    They will resign some of the O line as well as bring in 2 or 3 linemen as FAs.

    Breaston is the only concern but I wonder I they haven’t touched his deal due to Fitz’s deal being unfinished.

    To all the fans turning on an orginization that has been to a SB in the last 3 years, won 4 playoff games in the last 3 years and is building to make a run at it yet again….go cheer for the Yankees and Heat. ( You can’t name an NFL team as there is real parity)

    I’m sure there are plenty of “good” owners who spend a lot of money that haven’t sniffed a SB in the last 10 years or ever. Jones and Snyder come to mind.

  26. By Brandon Orgeron on Mar 27, 2011 | Reply

    Well I guess if they think he can play lt and develop. Our 09 line was so much better though with him at RT and Mike Gandy or Jeremy Bridges at LT

  27. By Lance on Mar 27, 2011 | Reply

    Hey Darren, I was wondering if there is any talk on QB Chad Pennington? That guy is flying deep under the radar it seems, and he could be a great prospect, but I have yet to hear any discussion in the media on getting him.

    If he could prove his shoulder is healed, he could be a great leader for the team, and I’m sure he wouldn’t cost the team any huge losses money wise or draft pick wise based off of speculation from his injuries. Also, having the highest accuracy rated qb couldn’t be so bad.

    Is there any chance the team is thinking about him? And if not, any chance you can hint towards it next time you interview with a team manager? ;)

  28. By Skiptim on Mar 27, 2011 | Reply

    Kent -

    I understand the number of free agents, but the difference in production was heavily favoring the Titans compared to us.

  29. By Peter in Canada on Mar 27, 2011 | Reply

    Bill L – There was a lot of talk about the Cards Oline on a blog a couple of days ago. John the Draft guy pretty much summed everything up. He said the line would look a lot better if they had a QB who could make proper reads and get rid of the ball in a timely fashion. Our QB play was probably the worst in the NFL. Upgrading that would automatically upgrade the line.

  30. By Javi on Mar 27, 2011 | Reply

    thanks darren so what about Donovan Mcnabb is he a possibility?

  31. By Darren Urban on Mar 27, 2011 | Reply

    Lance –

    RE: Pennington

    I have not heard that name, and frankly, I am not sure what he has left.

  32. By Lance on Mar 27, 2011 | Reply

    Thanks for getting back to us all, I really appreciate it!

    And thats what they said about Warner!

  33. By Shane on Mar 28, 2011 | Reply

    With the Cards having the 5th pick in the draft opens a lot of doors… I like Ken Whisenhunt as our Head Coach. He’s proven himself in leading the team to the playoffs in 2 consecutive years… with Warner. This year we suffered with no reliable QB. BUT I was impressed with John Skelton and Max Hall showed promise in the Preseason lol Mr. Hall still has potential, no matter what anyone says. I know QB should be the #1 concern for the Cards this offseason, but, if a Von Miller or a Patrick Peterson is still available at the 5 pick, go ahead and take ‘em! If Blaine Gabbert, Miller, Peterson and Newton are gone, what do you think of trading down 10 spots to the 15 spot? Reasonable? I’ve been kinda new to the draft process but would those 10 spots trading down be worth their 1st round and 2nd round picks?

  34. By SteveDCO on Mar 28, 2011 | Reply

    Javi – I’ll help Darren out so he doesn’t start hitting himself in the head with his keyboard.

    The Cards had no intrest last year in McNabb and will have no intrest this year in McNabb.

    He is an over the hill QB with accuracey issues.

    This question has been asked and answered in blogs and full articles many times.

    Darren has written at least two pieces on the QB situation this off season.

    Simply said Orton, Palmer, Bulger, Kolb are all possibilities depending trade demands.

    They could also draft a QB this year or do both.

    It does not mean they have given up on Skelton.

    Here is what we know for sure. Graves and Whiz aren’t going to tell anyone what they are going to do until they do it. (Nor should they btw)

  35. By Darren Urban on Mar 28, 2011 | Reply

    Shane –

    RE: Trading down

    I don’t know how that would work out on the trade point scale. But trading down is always an option.

  36. By drummer-1 on Mar 28, 2011 | Reply

    @ steveDCO…. Nice post, most fans think if the team spend, spend spend we will win, if thats the case the yankee’s, redskins, cowboys, blackhawks,raiders they should never lose a game if thats all it took..The team has had one bad season in the last 4 years and fans are not even give the team time to re-tool before they started bashing them.. I think most of the hate for Whiz come from the release of pretty boy Leinart( which i thought was a good move)..

  37. By Scott H on Mar 28, 2011 | Reply

    I swear, I hate it when there’s just nothing going on! With the QB situation thoroughly driven into the ground, there’s nothing to even talk about right now. Makes me wonder – what the hell did we do back before there was free agency and nothing happened between the Super Bowl and the draft??? My God, it must have been awful…

    BTW, it dawns on me that if there is any interruption of the 2011 season, there will ALSO be an interruption of fantasy football and that will truly suck. Yet another way that the NFL owners will be ruining my life at that point…I swear, I hate those guys.

  38. By SteveDCO on Mar 28, 2011 | Reply

    Darren -

    Just watched the 2011 Off Season Plan video. Painful to not know if footbal is going to happen in 2011.

    Seems curious that Coach Whiz mentioned the QB situation and talked about bringing in a vateran QB and never mentioned drafting a QB.

    Am I reading too much into this?

    Another note to all who thinks Coach Whiz is too arrogant. Aren’t all winners arrogant? Look at Joran’s HoF speach.

  39. By DoblerFan on Mar 28, 2011 | Reply

    wow!

  40. By Darren Urban on Mar 28, 2011 | Reply

    SteveDCO –

    RE: Drafting a QB

    I do not think the first choice will be a QB. Not drafting a QB at all? I’m not sure about that.

  41. By Chuck 1 on Mar 28, 2011 | Reply

    For the record, the reason that some fans “HATE” (that’s a bunch of Bull SXXX; we just think that he made some stupid decisions) Whiz:

    a) Said “Matt is our QB” before OTHs and Training Camp. He then proceeded to run him out of town (not that I was a fan of Matt’s)
    b) Was probably the driving force behind acquiring two OTH (over-the-hill) ex-Steelers, Faneca and Porter.
    c) Was probably the decider-in-chief that brought DA (another AFC Central Division failure) to the Cardinals.
    d) Continued to play Max Hall instead of Skelton even though it was obvious that Max was in over his head. If he plays Max ahead of Skelton in the next season (whenever that is), it will only compound his mistake of 2010 and reinforce some fans’ perception that he is stubborn.
    e) Consistently called pass plays on 3rd and one or two which led to numerous punts.
    etc. etc. etc.

  42. By SteveDCO on Mar 29, 2011 | Reply

    Darren – Are all of the visits with Newton and Gabbert posturing to try and force someone up to take a QB in hopes of Miller being there at #5?

    Having watched the 3 of the last 4 games a few times recently (can’t watch SF), it’s hard to imagine Skelton not being in the mix to take over this franchise in the next 2 to 3 years. He looks better than Gabbert or Newton in the pocket and throws with much more velocity.

    Based on that and Whiz’s comments, I’m doubling down that Bulger is the guy, as he is a short term answer as Skelton grows and won’t take giving up any draft picks on a stop gap solution.

    I agree they could hedge their bets with a 2nd rounder if Dalton or Ponder is still out there.

  43. By cards62 on Mar 29, 2011 | Reply

    Steve DCO Like you I am a long time Cardinal Fan and suffered for many a year and I used to hate Bill Bidwill. I also agree with you that the organization has changed for the better since the stadium was built and I watched Bill Bidwill’s face when he was holding the George Halas trophy and I believe there is nothing more that he wants in life for himself than to hold the Vince Lombardi Trophy and I believe his son Mike wishes to get this for his father, but I have to tell you it takes a lot more than wishes to win a Superbowl and Chuck 1 is absolutely correct in speaking for most of us true fans when he says that Coach Whiz and our organization made huge mistakes last year. I will go further and say the product we put on the field last year was an embarassment and was the result of very poor decisions. You can blame who you wish but I blame Coach Whiz first and foremost and Rod Graves and Mike Bidwill for letting the moves happen. You only have to go back and read this message board to know that we true fans knew the season was over when Leinart was let go right before the season started not because Leinart was great, but it showed the Cardinals were clueless and careless. Did I want Whiz fired? No he is a young head coach and they make mistakes. I just want my coach to learn from his mistakes and I want team veterans like Graves and Bidwill to keep him from making huge mistakes like 2010. I loved the 2008 and 2009 seasons and hunger for that success again, but most years of being a Cardinal fan have been more like 2010 so I have to watch the organization closely in 2011 and pray that they make smart moves so we can contend again in 2011. Smart moves do not always equal successful moves but dumb moves always equals seasons like 2010, yuck how I wish for a 2011 to erase these awful 2010 memories. We all want Coach Whiz to succeed and before last season we thought we had our coach for many years, but now Whiz and the rest of the front office have given us many doubts that we need answered in 2011, Go Cards

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