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For now, QB move a waiting game

Posted by Darren Urban on July 26, 2011 – 11:57 am

So many assumed the Cardinals would have a quarterback in place by today, the day trades could first happen (starting at 7 a.m. Arizona time) and the day players started to trickle back to the facility. Not gonna happen.

Coach Ken Whisenhunt said he does not expect any news today, and that the Cardinals are working on a number of different fronts in terms of a quarterback. That can’t be a surprise; you can’t put all the eggs in one basket in case it doesn’t happen. Various reports today link the Cards not only considering Kevin Kolb but Kyle Orton and Matt Hasselbeck. Granted, at this point agents are going to leak all kinds of things like that to puff up interest (and contracts) for their players.

Whisenhunt even commented on the various lockout reports that went on, each indirectly or directly putting quarterbacks like Marc Bulger, Kolb and Orton in a Cards’ uniform once the lockout ended. “At 7 a.m., all those deals vanished,” Whisenhunt said. (Whisenhunt, by the way, was careful never to name any quarterback in particular throughout his entire press conference.) Someone like Kolb would need a contract extension, and the prices for Kolb and Orton in a trade would obviously be different. Bulger and Hasselbeck, on the other hand, are free agents.

“We are looking at a number of different options,” Whisenhunt said. “I don’t know when we will get any kind of news on anything. … It’s not, you call up, ‘Hey we got a deal’ and it’s done. You have to negotiate and talk about different scenarios, then you have to go back and discuss it and then call you back. And other teams are in the mix. It’s a process.”

In the meantime, the quarterbacks still on the roster were throwing today — John Skelton, Rich Bartel and Max Hall (Derek Anderson, who is expected to be released once players can Thursday, was not here).


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93 Responses to “For now, QB move a waiting game”

  1. By Danny Heksolson on Jul 26, 2011 | Reply

    It is indeed a waiting time; I just hope the best for my beloved team and the position; we need only a qb that executes! because we are gonna be fine! GO CARDS!

  2. By Ben on Jul 26, 2011 | Reply

    Sounds pretty Agressive to me????

  3. By kolb2fitz on Jul 26, 2011 | Reply

    pathetic and sad… meanwhile the seahawks are about to get sidney rice to pair up with mike williams. Cards—- stop being apprehensive and trade for Orton. Then focus on OL and LB’s

    THE USUAL “WAIT AROUND AND SEE WHO IS LEFT” APPROACH WILL NOT DO IT THIS YEAR.

  4. By NYCardinals212 on Jul 26, 2011 | Reply

    Nobody said they were “waiting around to see who is left”. Where did you get that impression?

  5. By DeckofCards on Jul 26, 2011 | Reply

    -_-’…. my gosh… i want them to get either kolb orton or palmer… plamer is out of the question and kolb is said to be traded for DRC… if thecards trade DRC imight not EVER watch them again cause iw would be uber pissed

  6. By D on Jul 26, 2011 | Reply

    Nfl network should have put camera’s in the war rooms this week, we would love to see 10 guys on the phones stressing…be like our typical 9-5 jobs….

  7. By wait and see ..ughh on Jul 26, 2011 | Reply

    This is so true if The y play this wait and see crap we will be left with another DA…and I cannot stand another year of this garbage…please make some bold moves!

    -B

  8. By Nick Pepe on Jul 26, 2011 | Reply

    Interesting. Screen name Kolb2Fitz is pushing for Orton. Obviously you dont have your mind made up either! That is what is pathetic and sad. Not our front office. I hope they take the time needed to do the right thing. And I want DRC on our roster …..

    Nick Pepe

  9. By Jesse Robles on Jul 26, 2011 | Reply

    Lots of Veteran Lineman Getting released, John Clay RB out of Wisconsin is going to be a steal. Our Line should be ok, just work on the LB, DL, and QB situation, we are in decent shape. Free For all on Free Agents, which ever team works the smartest and hardest has a chance at a Super Bowl. This season is crazy, everyone has a chance at a lot of players.

  10. By Chris on Jul 26, 2011 | Reply

    Thanks god we are getting ride of Anderson, I don’t see any of those bloggers from last year running there mouths anymore. ITOLD YOU WE SHOULD HAVE STUCK WITH LEINART HOPEFULLY COACH DOESN’T MESS THIS YRS QB SIT UP AGAIN….

  11. By Davie Flemorson on Jul 26, 2011 | Reply

    Trade for Orton now, and sign some players and get back to the cap. Also there are gonna be 2 Tight ends as free agents, ASU guys Zach Milller and Todd Heap, sign people and upgrade significantly by next Wednessday or I will cancel my tickets if we dont act like a playmaker in free agency.

  12. By Chuck 1 on Jul 26, 2011 | Reply

    A reasonably patient approach to the QB deal is appropriate TO AN EXTENT.
    Graves and Whiz shouldn’t leap into a deal that gives away too much.
    HOWEVER,I would think that three days would be the max. Otherwise, the best choice (Orton IMO) will be gone.

  13. By Boisey on Jul 26, 2011 | Reply

    Why are we not going after Vince Young?!?!!

    He is the best QB available! Is a leader and has a winning mentality!

  14. By maham on Jul 26, 2011 | Reply

    kolb2fitz – I’m confused, your name indicates kolb, but you say trade for Orton???

    + no one is being apprehensive, Whiz said “it’s a process”. The calls have been made, the Cards can’t force anything when it comes to trading, it’s not up to them, it’s up to the team that has what we want.

  15. By drummer-1 on Jul 26, 2011 | Reply

    More crying from the fans,( now thats sad ) have you ever thought they might just be trying to get the best players for the system, not signing players because everyone else is.. Or, Trying to make a deal that benifits the team, DRC and a 1st does that benifit the team or hinder it…

  16. By Stuart on Jul 26, 2011 | Reply

    Well, I think Whiz is doing the right thing, as a team we already have a QB that shows potential to be a great starter (John Skelton). The thing is everbody is screaming for Kolb but guess what (and I like Kolb) He only shows potential to be a great starter. It would be a real bad Idea to give up a 1st round draft pick for someone who has potential (which Andy Reed has clearly stated he wants for Kolb), or a great shut down Corner like DRC who is going to be deadly with Patrick on the other side of him for a QB that has potential. If the team is going to do something along those lines get PROVEN, not POTENTIAL, The Cards already have Potential. Plus Skelton already knows the play book Kolb has no clue on the Playbook, HEED KURT WARNERS WARNING CARDS FANS.

  17. By Bernardo on Jul 26, 2011 | Reply

    Kolb2fitz…. Why would you rally for a orton trade if your name is Kolb? But i do agree with you!!!

  18. By Andy on Jul 26, 2011 | Reply

    Last report stated that all the broncos were looking for was a 3rd round draft pick for Orton correct? That seems like a no brainer… especially with how we usually spend our 3rd rounders anyway ;)

    Either way go Cardinals hope we make the right decision and make it a successful year.

  19. By Darren Urban on Jul 26, 2011 | Reply

    D –

    RE: War room

    Actually, with cell phones these days, it’s not a lock everything is happening in one room.

  20. By TRUE FAN OF DRC on Jul 26, 2011 | Reply

    DRC is going to stay a Cardinal. It would be crazy to not see what a DRC/Patterson combo might look like. As long as we can get a QB that can get the ball out quick and manage the game (no turnovers) we will be fine. Just upgrade Defense & O-line. & having a blocking & catching TE & RB would make the QB’s job a lot easier.

  21. By Nick Pepe on Jul 26, 2011 | Reply

    Here we go again. People canceling tickets, not watching another game….. Blah, blah, blah. Save the drama people

  22. By Alex on Jul 26, 2011 | Reply

    Darren-
    Have any of the Rookies stopped by yet? Or if they’ve been signed?

  23. By Scott on Jul 26, 2011 | Reply

    Ben & kolb2fitz –

    I couldn’t agree more! This is what happened last year, and look who we ended up with! Derek Anderson!!! If they don’t do some serious work this year and spend some money in free agency to get OL and LB’s I’m going to be upset. Get Orton, and get Bulger for back up. Can’t afford to trade DRC if Seattle gets Rice. Oh and let’s make a push for Arizona boy Zach Miller!

  24. By emm7777 on Jul 26, 2011 | Reply

    HAha I love it! Even Kolb2Fitz wants Orton. If the front office can’t think clearly on this and gives up the house for kolb i will be so sad!

  25. By joe67 on Jul 26, 2011 | Reply

    Boisey

    Vince Young??????????? What freakin’ Planet are you from!!?!?!?!??!!!!!!

  26. By cardsfan007 on Jul 26, 2011 | Reply

    Hey Darren,

    When do the rookies like Patrick Peterson etc…. start receiving their numbers!!! Im anxuous to know!!!!!

  27. By MdCards4Life on Jul 26, 2011 | Reply

    Please Front Office trust your instinct n trade for Orton that can give leadership n as well to mentor Skelton. He has great potential.

    Darren if the Cardinals are dissatisfy with DRC then why not have him play out this season to see if he can get back on track then if not then we hold the card in trading him next yr for a 1st round pick? what do you think Darren…?

  28. By Ian on Jul 26, 2011 | Reply

    Are you kidding me… Orten… e sucked when he was with the Bears and was worse with the Broncos, Hasselback has seen his best years come and go in Seattle, Bulger is not even a has been because he never was and Kolb…Kob was at his best playing someone else’s footsteps. There is a good reason all these QB’s are avaiable they couldn’t win a starting job anywhere else. Pick up McNabb who still has a good deep ball in him and is a good leader, then bring in a youngster with potential and let him grow in the orginization. We need someone who can put the ball in Fitz’s hands now before we lose hiom too!

  29. By Darren Urban on Jul 26, 2011 | Reply

    Alex –

    RE: Rookies

    I have not seen any yet.

  30. By Darren Urban on Jul 26, 2011 | Reply

    MdCards –

    RE: DRC

    I don’t think the Cards are down on him. I think if he were dealt, it’d be because that would be the cost. But I’m not sure that will happen.

  31. By cardsbeatrighter on Jul 26, 2011 | Reply

    so ok im here to set some things straight folks… one you do not trade a sub 4.4 corner for an unproven qb it is absolutely insane when you consider the fact you just added another on the other side and will have the best under 25 corner tandom in the past decade… next you trade for orton his asking price is lower and the only problem the guy has had is a lack ot talent … the bears had horrible receivers the broncos werent any better … give this guy breaston and fitz and he will put up very very solid numbers and win the nfc west folks … lastly big free agent targets id look into …davin joseph from tampa to replace faneca and todd heap who baltimore is letting go this week

  32. By CNelson on Jul 26, 2011 | Reply

    FANS-

    Seriously guys, do you all think our coaching staff are going to make the retarted decisions all of you keep throwing out there? I still believe in K.Whisenhunt and his ability to lead us to prosparity…

    He even said today that trading DRC did not come from the cards, and the fact Seattle has “come to terms with T. Jackson” then we realy are only waiting for the Egales to agree to terms of a deal we can live with.

    I love this team and absolutly was dieing waiting for the lock-out to be over, and the last thing I wanna hear (read) is our fan back to slamming a Coaching staff and Front Office that has done extreamly well for us.

    And befor everyone wants to talk about last year, yes Anderson was a mistake but everyone makes mistakes, thing is the great ones correct and learn from them… If you wanna be apart of an orginization that you can constantly bash go root for the begals, cowboys, 49ers or Seahawks…

    Welcome Back Darren!!!!!!! Glad to have real football news!

  33. By VoiceofReason on Jul 26, 2011 | Reply

    I think the Cards need to bring in Orton/Kolb and a vet, and let Skelton continue to groom as the 3rd qb.

    Also, I see Leonard Davis is getting cut, as is Todd Heap. As I see it, we have big time interior line and tight end needs, and I’d be fine with both of them making a homecoming. Davis is stil a very good guard in this league (never was a tackle), and Heap would bring an instant and massive upgrade at TE that we haven’t had in years.

  34. By VoiceofReason on Jul 26, 2011 | Reply

    BTW Orton and Fitzgerald have known each other since high school and worked out together in Minnesota during the lockout.

    And Orton goes for a 3rd round pick, and we keep DRC.

    Just saying.

  35. By VoiceofReason on Jul 26, 2011 | Reply

    And please, please – announce you’re cutting DA and Hall now.

  36. By Darren Urban on Jul 26, 2011 | Reply

    Voice –

    RE: Cuts

    Can’t happen until Thursday afternoon.

  37. By BIGCARDFAN on Jul 26, 2011 | Reply

    LETS JUS GET ORTON AND BE DONE SO PEOPLE SHUT UP I DNT WANT DRC TO GO TO THE EGALES FOR QB THAT CANT EVEN KEEP HIS JOB FROM A GUY THAT GOT OUT OF PERSION

  38. By VoiceofReason on Jul 26, 2011 | Reply

    True that the cuts can’t actually happen until Thursday afternoon, but the Cards could announce it sooner like other teams have done.

    I’d also like to see us come to terms with some of our own free agents, like Alan Branch.

  39. By thecoopdogg on Jul 26, 2011 | Reply

    We (the Cardinals) clearly have the bargaining leverage for Kolb. We should definitely take DRC off the table. Kolb is worth a 2nd or 3rd round pick at best. Why give the Eagles a proven and outstanding cornerback like DRC for an unproven and relatively average QB like Kolb? They do not want to keep him. They can’t afford to keep him. The Eagles are not stupid. If Kolb was so great, he wouldn’t be sitting on the bench and on the trading block. I hope we (the Cardinals) do not get sucked into a dumb deal by the the media and Eagles. Those types of moves have been indicative of our organization and management for too many years. Be smart. There are too many QBs out there that could lead us to a division win and cost a lot less than Kolb.

  40. By Isaak on Jul 26, 2011 | Reply

    Please trade for Orton, please!!!!!!

  41. By DowntownFredBrown on Jul 26, 2011 | Reply

    It looks like a lot of teams are cutting former pro bowl-type players with big salaries who could have some tread left on their tires. Maybe they could be swooped up cheap.
    Crazy some of the big names that are getting just kicked to the curb !

  42. By tygrbass on Jul 26, 2011 | Reply

    take your time…….Don’t let all the excitement and eagerness to start playing football cause you to marry a bad decision in free agency….IMO Orton is not a good fit for Fitz…. Kolb has all the tools but at the end of the day it’s like bringing in a rookie who got a little preview of what it will be like in the NFL… either one is really worth that much coin.

  43. By Brent Brumbach on Jul 26, 2011 | Reply

    The Arizona Cardinals will find themselves in the worst shape imaginable if they go with Hasselbeck.. Trust me.. I’m a former Seattle Seahawks fan and my wife are moving to Phoenix in September.. .. Matt Hasselbeck needs to hang it up. He is a special needs QB.. As in he ‘needs” to stay the hell out of Arizona. GO CARDS!!!!!!!

    Cheers,

    B

  44. By cardsalltheway on Jul 26, 2011 | Reply

    Darren,
    Where are our undrafted free agent signings? Other teams have already picked up MANY players. The Bears, Steelers, and Seahawks all have abou 20 players while Jacksonville has the most…
    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d820fa765/article/teambyteam-undrafted-free-agent-signings?module=HP11_headline_stack

    When does this supplemental draft take place? I’m compused.

  45. By Esai on Jul 26, 2011 | Reply

    I’m surprised we didn’t hear more about what Skelton was up to this offseason. Leaves me wondering what caliber we can expect his game to be at this year and how that will play a role in which QB string he’s put in.

    Hope we see lots of him during the pre-season!

  46. By ALONEEAGLE on Jul 26, 2011 | Reply

    I am going to have to agree with thecoopdogg. It appears as though the Seahawks have signed Tavaris Jackson. Here is what I am hoping for. I would have no problem bringing in Kolb, but not for the price the Eagles are asking. DRC and a draft pick. What has Kolb accomplished? He has started a total of 7 games and has gone 3-4. Also in the words of Kurt Warner on the NFL network, he could be good, but thus far he has been too inconsistent. Also the fact that he wants a long term contract. who is to say that he will even stay healthy all season long. That in my opinion is alot of eggs to put into one basket. He was supposed to be the Eagles future, then along comes Vick, now suddenly Kolb is expendable! Hindsight 20-20, should have taken Vick when we had the chance. Oh well that’s the past. All I am saying is that Orton has a much cheaper price tag and is proven. If the Eagles are willing to do negotiate a fair trade, then I can see trading for Kolb. It appears to me that Seatlle is completely out of the Kolb sweepstakes, they are discussing signing Leinart. i really believe that it would be a much more intelligent decision to go and get Kyle Orton. I believe if we sign Orton, Fitz will waste no time signing at all.I think the smart move is Orton, Linebackers free agents, and Fitz!!

  47. By Mike M on Jul 26, 2011 | Reply

    3 way trade. Kolb to Minnesota, Sidney Rice to AZ & DRC + Minny draft pick to Philly. Then the Cardinals pick up Orton and Heap.

  48. By Darren Urban on Jul 26, 2011 | Reply

    Cardsall –

    RE: UDFAs

    Cards haven’t released their list yet.

  49. By CardsFan on Jul 26, 2011 | Reply

    Kolb will be DA 2.0, let’s hope this organization is smarter than that!!! Orton is PROVEN & MAKES HIS NUMBERS(7,500YDS & 41 TDS & 21 INTS) IN THE LAST 2 SEASONS…… NUFF SAID!!!!

  50. By TSHIF on Jul 26, 2011 | Reply

    Darren.

    With the likelyhood of TJ in Seattle and Hass ending up in Tenn. You would think this would give us the upper hand in the trade for Kolb since the market for him is shrinking quickly. Plus I dont see why if Mcnabb is released why the Cards wouldnt consider picking him up. Veteran leadership is something this team strongle lacked last year. Your thoughts?

  51. By Darren Urban on Jul 26, 2011 | Reply

    Tshif –

    RE: kolb/McNabb

    It would seem the Cards would benefit, yes. As for McNabb, I don’t really have to go back there, do I?

  52. By Tbru on Jul 26, 2011 | Reply

    If DA is under contract and can’t be cut until Thursday, he should at least be washing Whiz car or something.

  53. By jeffcardinalfan on Jul 26, 2011 | Reply

    whiz and graves r smart guys and have done wonders with the cards. yes! whiz made a mistake last year by releasing leinart…yes! da was lousy…whiz will learn from his m,istake and we will get a good veteran qb…everyone has their own opinion, though i sometimes wonder if some of the comments here r from guys who actually watch the games…
    heres mine:
    orton is clearly the best qb available…he was ok in chicago and very good in denver(on a baaad team) 41 td’s against 21 pics in his 2 years with denver…we can get him by giving up a 2nd or 3rd rd draft pic

    bulger would be my next choice-he is a free agent and we could get him for less than 4 or 5 mil per year…the last retread qb from the rams worked out pretty well for cards…

    mcnabb has proven that he is DONE…he was always a crybaby and continually stated pubicly that when he was given a rough time by the philly press that he was being picked on because he was a black qb…he would also want superstar money…

    vince young…to quote my teenage son…”really” he has some physical skills but has proven over and over tht he is not mentally suited to b a starting qb…

    the cards r a pass first team…thats the way they r built…IF the rb we drafted in rd 2 is really gonna b great(icant recall his name and am 2 lazy 2 look it up), then cards will begin transition to a power running team, but we gotta have a qb withouit giving away the farm

    kolb, kolb, kolb…not many starts, great potential, would have to give up a number 1 draft pic AND would have to sign him to a new deal paying him superstar money…10 plus mil per year…rumors abound that DRC would be part of this deal as well…no way is gonna fly!!

  54. By cahongisto on Jul 26, 2011 | Reply

    darren was the summer off nice haha nothing like the next two weeks being nothing but chaos for everyone in the cards facility i imagine … so darren do you think fans expect too much when it comes to free agency i mean think about it Reggie White make a big impact in Green Bay and for a while was considered the best free agent ever ours I would have to agree was Berry he was very underrated but played exceptionally well and for a good price… so with that said do you honestly expect very much for us in free agency?

  55. By Darren Urban on Jul 26, 2011 | Reply

    Cahongisto –

    RE: Free agency

    Realistically, most teams never hit it big in free agency. Either a guy is a bust, or he never quite lives up to his contract even if he is good. Will the Cards sign some guys? Yes. I would think by Thursday night we will hear of many moves. Today was the first day. Tomorrow I would think would be a big day.

  56. By cards62 on Jul 26, 2011 | Reply

    Breath in breath out breath in breath out Cardinal fans.

    Best news I heard in over a year. Derek Anderson is no where to be seen.

    I am glad the Cardinals are not rushing the QB decision. I will be shocked if Kolb does not come here and I think most of us will be happy with that if we do not give up too much. I like Palmer and Orton better but will be happy with Kolb. Vince Young does interest me as I would love if we could sign him with another veteran, but I think Andy Reid jumps on him. All the QBs have risk and Jeffcard you might want to remind your teenage son that I believe Vince Young took over an 0 – 6 team and finished the year 8 – 8. Guys that takes something to do at the NFL level on the field and in the locker room.

    You guys are getting me excited about a couple of ASU studs that play TE that may come to our Cardinals. I sure hope this happens Miller or Heap will help our QB and rookie TE a lot..

    I agree with you guys that our Cardinals have to be quick this offseason but we also have to be smart and I think we will all know what kind of team we will have in the next 3 weeks and definitely before the first regular season game.
    This year is critical for Graves and Whis to bounce back in my opinion.

    Go Cards

  57. By Scott H on Jul 26, 2011 | Reply

    Frankly, I am super glad to hear about Tavaris Jackson going to Seattle. That kills three big birds with one stone if ya ask me. First, it gives the Seahakws a QB that isn’t going to lead them anywhere. Second, it takes Seattle out of the Kolb picture. And three, with Seattle out of the Kolb picture, I think the Cardinals are now in a position to give up less for kolb that they would have to if Seattle were bidding against them. With Seattle out, who else is bidding for Kolb??? If there is no one else in the picture, then the Cardinals are dealing from a stronger position. I love everything about this.

    BTW, here’s what Hasselbeck has done over the last 3 seasons -

    44 INT’s
    33 TD’s
    13 games missed due to injury

    And…WHY do we want this guy??? Anyone? Anyone? Please. Thank you, Titans for taking HIM out of the picture. They can’t sign him fast enough for me.

    And thank you, Vikings, for ( hopefully ) taking McNabb out of the picture!!! There’s another mistake we won’t make!

    And, finally, the BEST news of all – the pending release of Derek Anderson. There’s another day that can’t come fast enough!

    BTW, the fact that Orton is also out there and the fact that the Cardinals have also had interest in him is ANOTHER factor that should prevent the Eagles from demanding too much for Kolb. I’d have to say I’m OK with Koilb for DRC straight up. If the Eagles want to get crazy and demand draft picks IN ADDITION to DRC…then I tell the Eagles to go pound sand. The Seahawks REALLY did us a favor here by pulling out. With them out of the picture and Orton available as an option, I see the Cardinlas as being in a good position here.

  58. By mike k on Jul 26, 2011 | Reply

    Ok, I’m done predicting. My prediction was really a reaction to Adam Schefter’s report that Kolb to AZ was 100%. (I predicted Kolb would be traded to Seattle today.) Anyway, I like that Cards are evaluating and weighing there options even if they know what they want to do. I think things will pick up Thursday and Friday. a lot of teams (Seattle, Dallas, Baltimore, Philly) are showing or overplaying their hands. Good day one.I expect we will get at least on FA OL, one LB, and maybe an skill position like WR or TE, along with a QB. Patience Cards Nation.

  59. By Chuck 1 on Jul 26, 2011 | Reply

    To: CNelson,

    “the last thing I wanna hear (read) is our fan back to slamming a Coaching staff and Front Office that has done extreamly well for us.”

    Are you kidding me??????????

    Let me count the ways that Graves and Whiz have screwed up:
    FANECA & PORTER (STEELERS WEST), MAX HALL, AND YES!!!!!!!!!!!!, SIGNING AND THEN PLAYING DA GAME AFTER GAME WHEN IT WAS OBVIOUS THAT HE WAS NOT THE ANSWER )!!!

    What was the Card’s record last year? Who is responsible for that?
    GRAVES AND WHIZ!!! They assembled the roster and Whiz called the plays.

  60. By Chuck 1 on Jul 26, 2011 | Reply

    Darren,

    How much did the Cards spend last year?
    And, how much do you figure that they have to spend with the new cap (please make some assumptions regarding signings of some of the Cards’ FAs).

    Thanks.

  61. By Motavaysean on Jul 26, 2011 | Reply

    Ya i think KO would be our best fit . Kolb is a bang or bust type QB . With seattle signing Jackson either Reid will drop the asking price or they will just keep him franchise him next year and see what they can get for him then . I got to ask tho who is this ..chris..guy who keeps saying we made a mistake letting Leinart go ? He was horrible The only mistake we made was drafting that bust in the first place . He just got released by a team who’s head coach spent most of his career as a QB coach . If anyone can asses his talent it was Kubiak and he made him a 3rd stringer and then got rid of him . LIENART IS A BUST GET OVER IT .

  62. By Tbru on Jul 26, 2011 | Reply

    Seattle signed TJack & Hollywood. Seams to me the price for Kolb just went down, and I still think they can steal Orton. Please no Bulger.

  63. By rhoerner on Jul 26, 2011 | Reply

    Darren

    What is the latest on the QB situation? I have trouble understanding why the Cards would give up a Pro Bowl corner PLUS a draft pick for an unproven back up when they could get Orton for perhaps a third round pick and keep together what would potentially be an incredible defensive backfield with Peterson (en), Wilson and Rogers-Cromartie

  64. By Lonnie Nutt on Jul 26, 2011 | Reply

    PLEASE don’t give up DRC for Kolb!!!! I know he had a down year last year but you forget he was comming off knee surgery. It is not uncommon to take a full season to get the full strength and confidence in a knee after surgery. As far as Orton or kolb, I would say Orton has had far more consistent results and for longer than Kolb and the price would be lower. Maybe a third or a fourth and sixth pick rather than a first AND DRC, FORGET THAT. GO after Orton and get it done then get that O-line patched up. Go cards

  65. By Darren Urban on Jul 26, 2011 | Reply

    Chuck1 –

    RE: Spending/this year

    Don’t know how much they spent last year; without a cap, it wasn’t as relevant. Obviously, they spent much less than the previous season.

    As for what they have to spend, the cap figures I saw seemed to target the Cards with about $30M in cap space, give or take a mill. Money shouldn’t be an issue. The new rules say teams have to spend 89 percent cash to cap, so they have money they need to sink into players. However, that includes a lot of guys, since only 41 were under contract before this week.

  66. By Big A on Jul 26, 2011 | Reply

    LOL At the Vince Young comment. Also laughing at the person who said DRC/Patterson comment. WTF is Patterson.

    Giving up DRC is a bit steep if you ask me.

    I haven’t read through every post so I’ll just say anyway, Marc Bulger stated he had no interest in playing in Arizona.

  67. By Darren Urban on Jul 26, 2011 | Reply

    rhoerner –

    RE: Kolb v Orton

    Again, if they have determined Kolb is the better QB, that’s why they’d make such a deal.

  68. By Alex on Jul 26, 2011 | Reply

    To Chuck1:
    They KNEW DA wasn’t the answer. They needed someone to temporarily take the spot. He was the best guy on the board at the time. Faneca wasn’t a bad call he was just old. Look at the way he was in NY. Pretty good. They figured that would translate over to us. Porter was sketchy but he still did good things. So calm down dude. They’ve done great for us. They only took us to a SUPERBOWL. But then again I guess that’s not a big deal right?

  69. By Dan on Jul 26, 2011 | Reply

    Trade DRC for Kolb and a 6th or 7th rd pick, not a friggin 1st or 2nd.

  70. By Dan on Jul 26, 2011 | Reply

    Hmmm…………….Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm……tough decision. Kolb or Orton, Kolb is the better QB but at what cost?

  71. By chris on Jul 26, 2011 | Reply

    WTF GET ORTON KEEP YOUR PRO BOWL CORNER THiS MAKES NO SENSE AT ALL TRADE A gOoD PROVEN PLAYER FOR a qb WERE TAKING A CHANCE FOR!!!!

  72. By Eazy E on Jul 27, 2011 | Reply

    All this talk for a qb with 7 starts?? 3-4 record?? I just don’t understand how a man as intelligent as whiz, graves, or keim can support this BullShiiiiii? Trading DRC and a pick or whatever for kolb is a nightmare. You got McNabb, VY out there and kolb is the ”best” option, what a joke!! It would be one of the worst moves, if not the WORST in league history and we deserve what we get if we do a illogical deal such as this.

  73. By Thomas77 on Jul 27, 2011 | Reply

    Hasselbeck is gone.

    Only Orton and Kolb left, cause I know we’re not seriously considering Bulger, and so does Philly.

    I’m getting a little nervous….

  74. By Chris on Jul 27, 2011 | Reply

    Darren,

    Can you Confirm the Twitter rumors? Eagles want DRC and first and we OFFERED Drc and 2nd? I surely hope not we have all the leverage they can have a 2nd poss 1st rounder no drc. That should be the deal lets move on. Otherwise get Orton for a 3rd and move on. Don’t let Philly win this trade make it even or screw them over. Remember they will get absolutley nothing for Kolb next year

  75. By Cards1Fan on Jul 27, 2011 | Reply

    I hope they dont trade DRC for Kevin Kolb that would be a stupid move.All they would be doing is making everything worse for Greg Toler who is not starter ready.I believe the Jets are only as good as they are because they had lockdown corners which allowed them to blitz often.With DRC29 and PP21were going to cause havoc in the backfield.TOP TEN DEFENSE THIS YEAR IM PREDICTING.2nd Round Pick For Kevin Kolb or go after Kyle Orton who is cost less and is more ready to start for a team.

  76. By UK Card on Jul 27, 2011 | Reply

    HEY DARREN!

    WHERE CAN WE GET INFO. ON UNDRAFTED ROOKIES THE CARDS HAVE SIGNED! HEARD RUMORS, BUT CAN FIND ANYTHING CONCRETE.

    LIKE MANY AM HAPPY WITH KOLB, AT THE RIGHT PRICE, DON`T WANT TO GIVE UP DRC!

    THINK WE SHOULD GO WITH ORTON TO SPITE RIED!!!!!!!!!!

    SURE FITZ WOULD BE OK WITH ORTON? OR KOLB NEXT YEAR!

  77. By Darren Urban on Jul 27, 2011 | Reply

    UK Card –

    RE: UDFA

    Nothing concrete because there is nothing announced yet. I’d expect that list today.

  78. By Darren Urban on Jul 27, 2011 | Reply

    Chris –

    RE: Kolb potential trade

    I can’t confirm that. I saw it the same way you did. I don’t know what will happen. I do think the Cards believe Kolb is the better quarterback, however.

  79. By clssylssy on Jul 27, 2011 | Reply

    Well Hasselback’s to the Titans and Leinart is reunited with his old coach Carroll (whoa…I saw that coming when we kicked him to the curb and despite what all the armchair experts think, the chemistry between coach and QB is the magic…think that’s what was missing with him here). I really don’t know why it’s taking so long for Whisenhunt/Graves to make a decision…not like they haven’t had months to work out scenarios and evaluate all these guys. I’m a little concerned about all the undrafted rookies we seem to be signing and the fact that we are gonna be short on leadership and time for some cohesiveness to develop,being shorted in the offseason. Not EVERYBODY is on the Kolb bandwagon. He has thrown more interceptions than TDs and is almost dejavu from last year. People forget that Max Hall stepped up and helped lead us to victory over the reining champion Saints last year. He and John Skelton both are better than Kevin Kolb, know the system, players and what’s expected. Hope they can sign Orton, Palmer, Bulger and will listen to Kurt Warner who’s been there, done that. Let’s Get’R’Done and move on to practice! WE ARE READY FOR SOME FOOTBALL!

  80. By wait and see ..ughh on Jul 27, 2011 | Reply

    I saw something about Breston going to Kansas City….any truth to this?

  81. By Darren Urban on Jul 27, 2011 | Reply

    Wait and –

    RE: Breaston/KC

    He hasn’t agreed to a deal, if that’s what you are asking. A possible landing spot? Wouldn’t surprise me.

  82. By cards62 on Jul 27, 2011 | Reply

    Darren – Are you hearing anything about Vince Young? Does he have to wait to be cut tomorrow before anyone can talk with him?

    Scott H. I think the Titans did not want another QB controveersy like Young and Collins so Hasselbeck is just being brought in until Jake Locker is ready. A good plan for the Titans I think.

    I am just anxious for us to lock up our QBs today or tomorrow.

    Darren why are the Cardinals not feeding you the names of the undrafted rookies they are signing?
    I heard we signed the QB Devlin, but then I heard the Dolphins signed him. When can you get us an update? Thank you for all your hard work.

    Any other Cardinal fans hearing about signings?

  83. By Chuck 1 on Jul 27, 2011 | Reply

    When will Graves and Whiz sign, what arguably are their most important needs (of course, after a QB), Offensive Linemen and LBs???

  84. By Darren Urban on Jul 27, 2011 | Reply

    Cards62 –

    RE: VY

    Young is not and was never an option. They have no interest.

  85. By Scott H on Jul 27, 2011 | Reply

    Kinda interesting to me that Vince Young doesn’t seem to be on anyone’s radar…at least not as a starter. Many teams have already locked up their guy(s) at QB…Kolb and Orton seem destined for Arizona and Miami…and then there’s Vince Young. Wonder if the Bengals have an eye on him in case Palmer stays home? Maybe the Browns? I mean, I never wanted him here in Arizona but I can’t believe he’s not wanted SOMEWHERE!!! Oakland???

    Eazy -

    McNabb, I’m happy to say, is now a Viking. It’s done. It’s over. Got 4 words for ya – JUST GET OVER IT!!!!! If ya love the guy that much, go get a purple McNabb jersey and move to Minnesota ( just watch out for the roof during the winter ). He ain’t a Cardinal. He was never gonna BE a Cardinal. There is no reason for his name to be brought up anymore. Really, man…it’s time to put it to rest. Deal with it. Embrace it. Move on.

  86. By Brownie on Jul 27, 2011 | Reply

    DRC – Let him go to whoever, my sister tackles better than he does.

  87. By Eazy E on Jul 27, 2011 | Reply

    Scott H-

    So what, Minnesota’s contending for the Super Bowl with McNabb, while were stuck with the most overhyped and overrated qb in free agency in kolb and trying to get Luck next year. Oh, that’s if we don’t trade our 1st and our best cornerback in DRC. Breaston just signed with the chiefs btw. Cardinals, if they don’t make some good moves(not kolb or jeff king), we’re going to be terrible again next year.

  88. By georgiebird on Jul 27, 2011 | Reply

    Darren,
    Since all QBs have a home – don’t expect Eagles to go easy on Cards. Cards should have seen the box they would put themselves in by waiting-now Cards are at the mercy of the Eagles and that’s a bad place to be.

  89. By brythybo7 on Jul 28, 2011 | Reply

    Darren –

    I live in Pennsylvania, and you might wanna let the FO know that local radio supporting the Eagles around here are pretty much laughing at the (soon to be) trade of DRC for Kolb and the reports of 30 MIL guaranteed. They know they get the best hand on this trade, why dont we?

  90. By cardsalltheway on Jul 28, 2011 | Reply

    The Eagles are more desperate than us!!! So, why should we bend over??? The answer is in the _ _ _ _ _ . The first letter begins with a ‘c’ and the last two end in ‘ch’. In between are the two vowels ‘oa’

  91. By cardsalltheway on Jul 28, 2011 | Reply

    For REAL? The Cardinals are preparing to sign KOLB without ever talking to him? HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!

  92. By cards62 on Jul 28, 2011 | Reply

    Darren – I know the Cardinals are not interested in Vince Young, but I believe Andy Reid is interested. I was wondering if you or any Cardinal fans are hearing any activity around the league on VInce Young?

    I love Tebow, but I think Broncos are making a mistake and should have also kept Orton, but Miami fans should be very happy that their team is actively trying to get better.

    Go Cards!

  93. By Darren Urban on Jul 28, 2011 | Reply

    Cards62 –

    RE: VY

    Last I saw on Young, there was talk he’d have to wait to find a landing spot.

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