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Adding players, keeping players

Posted by Darren Urban on July 27, 2011 – 10:36 am

Slowly, information has come out on a handful of Cards’ early moves here in this tiny 2011 offseason. Again, because contracts can’t be signed until Friday afternoon, no official announcements are being made on free agents. But through multiple reports, it came out that the Cards had agreed to a deal with former Carolina tight end Jeff King, a good blocker who fits well the mold of what coach Ken Whisenhunt wants in a tight end. Stephen Spach is also expected to return, so with draft pick Rob Housler and holdover Jim Dray, we know what the position is going to look like in camp (and it doesn’t include Todd Heap or Zach Miller).

Kicker Jay Feely also reported on Twitter that punter Ben Graham has agreed to re-sign, although I expect the Cards to bring in another punter to compete with Graham in camp.

As for the QB situation, news is still on hold. Reports have Denver’s Kyle Orton possibly to going to Miami. With Matt Hasselbeck going to Tennessee, it seems it will be an upset if Kevin Kolb doesn’t end up in Arizona. For what price, it is uncertain. The song for QB musical chairs is about to stop however.

P.S. A quick training camp note: The Walkup Skydome is in the middle of renovations in Flagstaff, and while the Cardinals will still be able to practice inside if there is rain, fans will not be able to go in to watch practice. Something to keep in mind.


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111 Responses to “Adding players, keeping players”

  1. By nick on Jul 27, 2011 | Reply

    Darren, what’s the complication with the Kolb deal?

  2. By CardsFan on Jul 27, 2011 | Reply

    UPSET???? I’d be THRILLED KNOWING KOLB WASN’T IN OUR FUTURE!!! SKELTON CAN DO IT & OBVIOUSLY THIS ORGANIZATION DOESN’T THINK MUCH/HIGHLY OF HIM…… SORRY JOHN, MUST MAKE YOU FEEL GOOD KNOWING THIS ORGANIZATION COULD CARE LESS ABOUT GIVING YOU A SHOT!!!!

  3. By tom on Jul 27, 2011 | Reply

    WHAT A JOKE!!!!!! THIS TEAM IS SO STUPID!!!! WHY ON EARTH WOULD YOU TRADE DRC!!! WE HAVE NO PROVEN CORNER BEHIND HIM THIS IS AN ABSOLUTE JOKE AND IF THE CARDS PULL OFF THAT TRADE IM NOT GOING TO ANY GAMES OR BUYING ANY TEAM APPAREL! HOW ON EARTH DO YOU NOT JUST GET ORTON OR TRADE A BUNCH OF PICKS! DRC AND A PICK?????? IS GRAVES AND WHIZ SMOKING TWEAK!!! WHAT A JOKE!

  4. By Joseph Millard on Jul 27, 2011 | Reply

    Adding players ?

    Who ? Love the King signing. And they signed a punter.

    The Cardinals have what ? 49 players on the roster ? Are millions under the cap ? Have no starting center, guard, QB, and SILB ?

    Soooooo….. who are they adding again ?

    Typical. “The Plan” of doing nothing and being uncompetitive as a football business is under way.

  5. By maham on Jul 27, 2011 | Reply

    Daren:

    If we do end up giving up DRC for Kolb, do you think there is a possibility the Cards will go after Nnamdi Asomugha? Why not, right? We seem to have the cap room to work with…

  6. By Chuck 1 on Jul 27, 2011 | Reply

    I would be surprised if Orton goes to Miami. They have two QBs who have started and just signed Pat Devlin, a UFA.

    Won’t it be obvious to the Card’s opponents’ defenses that, when Housler is substituted into the game, a pass play is imminent?

  7. By brad oneill on Jul 27, 2011 | Reply

    why should we go after Todd Heap or Zach Miller when there is a Jeff King available. rolls eyes and tosses the little stuffed red bird across the room. ok ok on further reflection Jeff King can block and we need that more than one more guy taking balls that should be going to Fitz.

    I just wish they would lock down Breaston. if they do that I will be a happy cards fan regardless of how incompetently they deal with the qb situation.

    ps has anyone weighed lutui yet? I am dying to know if he broke 400?

  8. By Cactus jeff on Jul 27, 2011 | Reply

    Darren
    Remember Greg Toler trying to cover Mike Williams from the Seahawks? He can’t cover big WRs. He got torched, he is not long enough. He doesn’t pass the eye test.

  9. By Beauchamp on Jul 27, 2011 | Reply

    Thanks Darren for keeping us in loop im watching NFL mobile anxious as most fans are. I think we all remember how poor a first day we had last year losing Dansby and Rolle and things didn’t work out well. Kolb doesn’t have multiple suitors remaining so I assume that the price would drop right? Supply and demand… I don’t like the speculation of DRC going anywhere.

  10. By drewcards on Jul 27, 2011 | Reply

    If Orton goes to Miami, Hasselbeck to Tenn, and Mcnabb to Minn, then the Cards are left to just Kolb, unless the brass feels Skelton is ready. I just hope Its not DRC going the other way because I’ve been salivating over having both Peterson and DRC as the starting corners. Darren what do you feel would be a fair trade for Kolb? I personally would give nothing more than 2nd or 3rd round pick for him.

  11. By Scharf on Jul 27, 2011 | Reply

    If the Cardinals fail to acquire either Kyle Orton or Kevin Kolb I don’t know what will happen. Between the two I think Kevin Kolb would be a better fit, and with his eagerness to play in the desert you have to think that will be a factor that will drive him because if he wants to prove himself and does it in a place he wants to play it’s just a win/win. However, if the Eagles are asking too much for compensation, Kyle Orton would be the choice. I can’t see the Cardinals risking high draft picks AND paying Kevin the money he wants. Your looking at a double whammy.

    Darren, Any offensive line free agents that catch your eye?

  12. By This Guy on Jul 27, 2011 | Reply

    Darren, do me a favor. IF we trade DRC + a 2012 pick; I want u to go management and tell them off for me.

  13. By Ian on Jul 27, 2011 | Reply

    ESPN has a source that says the current request for Kolb is DRC and a pick. The Eagles even had DRC’s jersey on their website for a short period of time and Mike Sando got a screen shot of it. Have you heard anything along these lines Darren? Love the blog and the work you do. Thanks for keeping us up on all things Cardinals.

  14. By alan on Jul 27, 2011 | Reply

    wow lets do nothing with free agents and give up boldin, drc, and lets go after mat leinart because thats about the same as kolb but this year were going to give up drc and a pick for a qb thats about a 59%. i beleive is stats last year 7TDS 7INT 6fumbles lets give Tom Tupa a call maybe he can still throw a ball j/k why have we not picked up kyle orton he has improved every year so far and we can pick him up for a 3rd rounder or maybe trade for a running back i beleive denver needs a RB what ever lets just get a couple no name qbs and let skelton play i beleive he is are future anyways !!!!!!!!!GO CARDINALS!!!!!!!!!!
    DARREN
    SORRY HAD TO POUT, have u heard anything new im going crazy watching nfl network and hearing all these other teams making moves and nothing from Arizona AGAIN!!!

  15. By Darren Urban on Jul 27, 2011 | Reply

    Nick –

    RE: Kolb

    My guess is the two sides are still haggling over compensation.

  16. By Darren Urban on Jul 27, 2011 | Reply

    maham –

    RE: Nnamdi

    No, they will not go after Asomugha.

  17. By Darren Urban on Jul 27, 2011 | Reply

    Scharf –

    RE: Catching the eye

    Honestly, I am just trying to keep up right now. I don’t know of any particular names.

  18. By John on Jul 27, 2011 | Reply

    Darren-

    Getting away from the QB situation, what do you think will happen if Steve Breaston decides to sign elsewhere? Will Andre Roberts or Early Doucet step into the No. 2 slot?

  19. By Darren Urban on Jul 27, 2011 | Reply

    Ian –

    RE: More DRC/Kolb

    That makes sense to me. I would guess the deal is now about haggling over compensation. As with most trades.

  20. By Darren Urban on Jul 27, 2011 | Reply

    John –

    RE: Breaston

    If Steve leaves, I would think Roberts gets first shot to be No. 2.

  21. By James on Jul 27, 2011 | Reply

    It’s sad that with all the big names agreeing to contracts with other teams that the best news for Cardinal fans so far is that the punter will be back. Another blocking TE and possibly trading a starter from an already suspect defence for an unproven prospect back-up Qb isntquite the free agent splash that was expected. Let’s hope it gets better.

  22. By Tbru on Jul 27, 2011 | Reply

    QB was our biggest need. I think P2 made DRC expendable. You have to trade quality to get quality. After last year, we need some changes. I am happy to see the Cards step up and make a bold move. Best wishes and thanks to Dominique. I wanted Skelton to take the reins but with no off season work, I think Kolb will be a better option. Go Cards

  23. By CardsFan on Jul 27, 2011 | Reply

    SO LOOK FORWARD TO ANOTHER HORRIBLE SEASON IS WHAT THE CARDINALS ARE SAYING…. BYE BYE FITZ, ENJOY WATCHING FITZGERALD THIS SEASON CUS IT’S GONNA BE THE LAST TIME HE’S IN CARDINALS RED!!!! ALSO BYE BYE DRC & BREASTON & POSSIBLY SENDLEIN & LETUI!!! CARDINALS WILL ONCE AGAIN BE AT THE BOTTOM OF THE DIVISION, BUT IF YOUR THE BIDWELLS THEN THAT’S WHERE YOUR USED TO BEING!!!

  24. By Knotcho on Jul 27, 2011 | Reply

    DRC for Kolb is one of the most idiotic trades that the Cards would have ever done. DRC is loved in the desert, and the opposing teams do not pass to his side that often, what does that tell you, he is good and others know it.

  25. By D on Jul 27, 2011 | Reply

    Well, it sounds like we will be in the market for another corner, here are two that may work from the Ravens: Josh Wilson or Chris Carr

  26. By Flood on Jul 27, 2011 | Reply

    Darren,
    Thanks for the updates. Isn’t it great to see the lockout hasn’t kept Cards fans from hitting midseason whining stride in no time?

  27. By from day1Skeltonfan on Jul 27, 2011 | Reply

    here’s a suggestion..but 1st , Bidwill Sr.was always a tightwad.His son follows in his footsteps.I don’t really think the Cards will fork out a lot of $
    for an unproven qb like Kolb so he won’t sign.Orton same category.
    so the other choice is bring in Bulger,won’t cost nearly as much,probably get
    him to sign a 1-2 year deal.Make him compete with Skelton in what little time thats left and if Skelton,s wins,which I KNOW he will, ( even against kolb or Orton ) and Bulger is backup.a veteran in case,possible a good mentor for Skelton, and he won’t cause a stink,he’s willing to backup ,has before and Presto qb situation done! Skelton has all the qualities of a team leader, has a rocket for an arm,strong,AND he can and likes to run,only needs to learn how to read Nfl defensives.!

  28. By D on Jul 27, 2011 | Reply

    Two LB’s that played in a 3-4 from SD that Cards could look at OLB Barnes and ILB Burnett

  29. By cahongisto on Jul 27, 2011 | Reply

    this offseason in two days has left me thinking oh great its the same old cardinals and whiz doesnt have a clue of how to run a team… denny green was involved in making the cardinals a super bowl team and whiz was lucky enough to coach them … these player moves and rumors are insane and wanting to be the steelers 2.0 is a fools errand … if they let drc go and give away a high pick for kolb i see nothing more than 5-11 honestly and im sure well start the rebuilding process again when whiz gets fired

  30. By David on Jul 27, 2011 | Reply

    I have been waiting with everyone else for Football to be back, and now I wish it were all a bad dream. My season tickets are going to be traded for ASU tickets if this keeps up. Really?? our 1st priority after talks open is to sign a NoBody(who can block) and our punter. COME ON, WAKE UP FO!! I already see the icing on the cake coming with losing DRC, Breaston, and no signing some more NoBody O line men who will let Defenses give Kolb his next concusion. If we trade DRC for Kolb I am DONE! ASU FORKS BABY!

  31. By Lynn on Jul 27, 2011 | Reply

    Re: DRC/KOLB

    Quarterback’s in any league are more valuable than cornerbacks, especially if the cornerback can’t or won’t tackle. Unless or until the NFL becomes a two hand touch or flag football league, I’ll take KOLB over DRC every time.

  32. By Fred on Jul 27, 2011 | Reply

    We could of had orton .the price was right ,why don’t we waest more time and end up with no Q B or spend way too much on kolb. thought thay had a plan . or were thay just stuck on kolb

  33. By Sackman on Jul 27, 2011 | Reply

    Darren did I hear the words Aggressive in Free Agency? Did they mean aggressively trying or aggressively doing? It seems pretty quite in the Red Zone. Giving up DRC and a 1st round draft pick, is like giving up 2 1st rounders for just 1 unproven Kevin Kolb. Don’t do it its not worth it. Please go after Orton before he is gone too.

  34. By Bryan on Jul 27, 2011 | Reply

    Darren,
    have the cardinals ended all talks with Denver about orton? I think the cardinals need keep that option open because it is a big risk to be hoping that kolb can be a franchise quarterback. Kolb’s track record is worse than orton’s and the broncos are supposedly asking for less. What can you tell me?

  35. By this guy on Jul 27, 2011 | Reply

    How would Kolb be better with no off season? Skelton knows the offence already, Kolb will be a rookie all over again

  36. By CJ on Jul 27, 2011 | Reply

    the thing is is that DRC is really young and he has so much potential to grow and improve as a player frankly im more comfortable going with Skelton at QB thaan kolb based on that Skelton has had more time with the system, more time with the pplayers, and better chemistry with the players

  37. By Judy on Jul 27, 2011 | Reply

    Larry Fitzgerald wanted Kolb.What Larry wants Larry gets.If they are going to let a WR (no matter how good he is)run this team,then i want my money back.We had a very good chance to have the best defense we have ever had,and give up one of the best parts for Kolb,just because Larry wants him.HORSEPUCKY!!!!!!

  38. By KC on Jul 27, 2011 | Reply

    Trade DRC?!! and a pick!? for Kolb?! WTF!!?! Kolb hasn’t proven anything yet. You know who else played a few good games at the start of their careers? Vince Young, Matt Leinart, and many others, and we know how that turned out. Hey, let’s trade Larry Fitzgerald for Vince Young while we’re at it! Or maybe we can get Leinart back and trade Dockett… What happened with Marc Bulger, or why not have tried for Orton, Hasselbeck, McNabb, anyone, just keep DRC. He rocks! The only way this is worth it is if Kolb turns out to be amazing, but I think that is quite a gamble.

  39. By VoiceofReason on Jul 27, 2011 | Reply

    If there is still haggling on the Kolb trade front, they better be instituting a plan B right now, and that should be bringing Marc Bulger here. Tell him he’ll have the opportunity to compete for the starting job whether Kolb is here or not.

    Good organizations always have two quarterbacks who can play. Great ones have three (which is why the Steelers always had Charlie Batch as their third). Right now, we have none who are ready to start and only one that deserves to wear an NFL jersey (Skelton).

    Darren – any word on the possibility of bringing back Leonard Davis to play right guard?

  40. By in fitz we trust! on Jul 27, 2011 | Reply

    guys i know ur mad….. but lets face facts. we know the culture of our team. the qb postion is more of a blaring hole than the corner position. not downplaying drc but for his speed an height he sure does get burned alot. its kinda like the antrell role situation, we gave him up with no compensations, but we ended up with rhoades who was out best 2ndary player last year. ( look what anrtell did ) that being said i would rather give up a player than a first round draft pick for kolb. everybody wants orton over kolb? orton is not a leader, hes not the qb u would want in the locker room. not sayin kolb has proven his worth, but he was a 2nd round pick when he was drafted, so traded a first round corner for a 2nd round qb is not too far out. thoughts?

  41. By Andrew on Jul 27, 2011 | Reply

    darren,
    if drc is traded, do you expect the cardinals to sign a quality veteran cb? (i use the word quality with purpose here, like an ike taylor)

    I know it’s very very early in this offseason but with the many holes at many positions I am starting to get worried…

  42. By andre on Jul 27, 2011 | Reply

    if we lose bresten will we go afer roy

  43. By Darren Urban on Jul 27, 2011 | Reply

    Bryan –

    RE: Orton/Kolb

    I can tell you the Cards have always felt Kolb was better than Orton.

  44. By Andre on Jul 27, 2011 | Reply

    KEEP DRC AND GET Andrew Luck

  45. By Darren Urban on Jul 27, 2011 | Reply

    Voice –

    RE: ::Leonard Davis

    As I mentioned before, I wouldn’t say no but he is getting up there and I’d be curious to know what he’d play for — he’s not going to get $5M anymore. Plus Whisenhunt was OK with letting him walk back in 2007.

  46. By Darren Urban on Jul 27, 2011 | Reply

    Andrew –

    RE: CB

    Taylor is already off the market, back to Pitt. I assume they would get a veteran. Who? That I do not know.

  47. By mlfan on Jul 27, 2011 | Reply

    eagles should compensate the cards with another player beside kolb
    for DRC! cb?

  48. By Jair on Jul 27, 2011 | Reply

    If breaston leaves do you see us possibly looking at Malcolm Floyd ?

  49. By clssylssy on Jul 27, 2011 | Reply

    Great! Just heard Breaston is going to KC, DRC to Philly, Orton to Miami…who’s driving this bus? Well, I do know that Phoenix can be a very fan-unfriendly place. Also heard that Houston nixed Leinerts deal so they must see a Leinert/Carroll hookup could be not a good thing. Let’s see who’s left…? I don’t understand why, if they ask Warner for his opinion, they don’t listen….geez!

  50. By Joseph Millard on Jul 27, 2011 | Reply

    BYE BYE Breaston.

    LOL. Unreal.

  51. By Rowlan on Jul 27, 2011 | Reply

    IF THE CARDINALS TRADE DRC FOR KOLB, I WILL NEVER SUPPORT THIS FRANCHISE AGAIN. MIGHT AS WELL TRADE BEANIE AS WELL. LARRY WILL BE GONE NEXT SEASON AND BREASTON WON’T BE BACK. LEINART WOULD HAVE BEEN BETTER THAN ANY OF THE QUARTERBACKS LAST YEAR. WHAT THE HECK ARE YOU GUYS DOING, PLAYING RUBIX CUBE. CONGRATULATIONS, ANQUAN FOR GOING TO A GOOD ORGINIZATION. WHIZ IF YOU WANT TO BE LIKE THE STEELERS, THAN TAKE CARE OF YOUR OWN. WE OWE ALL OF OUR PLAYOFF APPERANCES TO KURT WARNER BY THE WAY.

    JUST KEEP TEARING THE FRANCHISE APART…AND I’M SLOWLY LOSING INTEREST AFTER 3 GENERATIONS OF CARDS FOOTBALL

  52. By Rich on Jul 27, 2011 | Reply

    What makes you expect that Spach will be back if they haven’t announced it by now? I’m not doubting you, just curious what makes you think he is returning. Do you think he will be at meetings and such Friday and this weekend?

  53. By tom on Jul 27, 2011 | Reply

    this team is mentally deficient when it comes to free agency… last year ws brutal and now this year it looks like sendlein and breaston are gone and we are trading drc! hahaha its seriously laughable at this point! dammit pull out some money and pay some people before you lose your fans! overpay!!!!! i dont even care at this point! they need to keep their players! man i just cant handle this stuff! ive been a cards fan since 98 and i have never been so mad! i can handle losing when i know we are going to suck but when we have good players and CAN ACTUALLY WIN and we just choke and choke and choke on personnel moves its more frustrating by far then watching us suck!

  54. By tom on Jul 27, 2011 | Reply

    darren,

    if we trade drc do you think the cards will sign joseph or cromartie? i just wanna see the cards open the wallet and tell the fans we are trying! i remember horton saying that he wont start a rookie db or something along those lines and that made me think toler and pp are very very inexperienced! they have to be ready to get another corner! right? how do you feel?

  55. By Darren Urban on Jul 27, 2011 | Reply

    Jair –

    RE: WRs

    I could seem them looking at a mid-range WR, maybe. Fitz contract will be priority with Wrs though.

  56. By Darren Urban on Jul 27, 2011 | Reply

    Rich –

    RE: Spach

    Technically, Cards haven’t announced anything yet. And won’t on signings until it becomes officially Friday. I know they want him back.

  57. By Darren Urban on Jul 27, 2011 | Reply

    Tom –

    RE: CBs

    If DRC is dealt, yes, I think they need to get a corner. I don’t know if it would be Joseph or Cromartie. And I don’t recall Horton saying he wouldn’t start a rookie.

  58. By Ben on Jul 27, 2011 | Reply

    sounds pretty “agressive” to me.

    I do not even know why I bother listneing to Whiz anymore.

    Agressive players in FA and all we have is a role player TE. While other teams are making deals.

    I guess our “plan” was to trade for the last QB left and pray he can be Mannig/Brady molded into one that can also play every position on the OL.

    COME ON!!!! DO SOMETHING!!!!

  59. By Ben on Jul 27, 2011 | Reply

    By Darren Urban on Jul 27, 2011 | Reply

    Tom –

    RE: CBs

    If DRC is dealt, yes, I think they need to get a corner. I don’t know if it would be Joseph or Cromartie. And I don’t recall Horton saying he wouldn’t start a rookie

    He didnt outright say it but he definately implied it. Here is a link to a story with a link to the video:

    http://arizonasports.com/category/cardinals-articles/20110629/Peterson-to-face-learning-curve/

  60. By cheesebeef on Jul 27, 2011 | Reply

    Darren,

    with word that Breaston’s not coming back and with it looking like DRC is gone, how are we supposed to believe in a team that in two years has 17 members of it’s 22 starters from the Super Bowl run… with A LOT OF THEM being YOUNGER players? As of right now, under contract on offense is Fitz and Levi Brown (who graded out to be the worst T in football last year) and on Defense, all that remains is Dockett and Wilson. Can you tell me how a team is supposed to have sustained success when it continues to lose the players it drafts… after their FIRST contract?

    Seriously… 4 starters out of 22 are left from a YOUNG team (save Warner) that made the Super Bowl just 2 seasons ago? How can that be explained… especially in light of how much money we DIDN’T spend last year and how much money we apparently HAVE to spend THIS year?

    Scott

    Scott

  61. By Romero on Jul 27, 2011 | Reply

    hey darren I have been a cardinals fan my entire life and i would have to say i think it is possibly time for a new front office and ownership. i like graves and the bidwells as people but as for owners i cant really see them caring. y are they so hung up on a qb who has only 7 starts and only did good maybe in 2 games. i personally wanted orton i think he has proven himself hes had good stats with both his teams. if we lose breaston then i think other defenses will stop us in our tracks because roberts has alligator arms and butterfingers and early doucet cant stay on the field. hes made of glass. if its just fitz then hes not goin to be happy hes goin to wanna leave as well. be have been “rebuilding” stage ever since they came to Arizona. The superbowl year was magical but because we had players who wanted to play and were top players.

  62. By clssylssy on Jul 27, 2011 | Reply

    If this wasn’t so sad and pathetic it would almost be funny. Can’t help but be reminded of the baseball movie with Charlie Sheen where the owner INHERITS the team and then does eveything possible to make them lose…hmmm, is it just me or does anyone else have these associations? And who was it that was telling me this was just going to be a “retooling” year…R-I-G-H-T

  63. By tom on Jul 27, 2011 | Reply

    well the cards BETTER sing someone of a big name cause the fans are starting to get really pissed! i havent heard any positive reaction to this drc thing and if hes traded the cards BETTER sign a somewhat big name if they want the fans to believe in what they are doing… how do you feel darren? how do you feel on this drc for kolb nonsense!?

  64. By Romero on Jul 27, 2011 | Reply

    this is talking bout the management.
    Are they actually trying to lose fanbase and money because EVERY team out there except us knows you need to spend money to win we dont spend for anybody. we sign backups and third stringers. this is a sad day for Cardinals fans. we are losing great players we drafted for nothing at all.

  65. By tygrbass on Jul 27, 2011 | Reply

    Darren,
    Do you think the Cards are happy with the free agent options at QuarterBack or do you think they kind of feel like there being forced to bight the bullet because they have no other option and have to get a QB. ?????

  66. By Keith on Jul 27, 2011 | Reply

    Darren,

    Why not Beenie for Orton. Broncos want another rb and we want a qb. With the arrival of Williams here, that makes Beenie a Luxury. Does it only make sense to me. Hate to see Miami get Orton and we get a player that may or may not pan out.
    And I agree with everyone else, we need to sign one of two OL before the good ones are gone. Yeeesh!

  67. By drummer-1 on Jul 27, 2011 | Reply

    I think everybody should rip up their season tickets… that’ll show’em… Darren i don’t know how you do it, to put with all these crying fans, I don’t have to read this crap but you do, let me just say I’m sorry.. Just because the team is not moving as fast as some fans would like they wont watch the team, giving up on the team, calling the team they suppose to love stupid, what a bunch of babies…
    Sorry about the rant Darren,but it gets old after awhile.

  68. By tom on Jul 27, 2011 | Reply

    hahahahahaha wow breaston gone… sweet! does graves have downs syndrome??? im serious!

  69. By Tx Cards fan on Jul 27, 2011 | Reply

    Darren,

    Could you please call the Cardinals’ “war room” and ask them all too standup while they work so they will stop sitting on their hands. Jeff King is our big splash? He’s a solid sign if we went 11 and 5 last year not 5 and 11. I thought Whis said we had a plan and the good will was gone after last season. Looks like the plan is to watch all the good UFA’s sign and not resign any of our good players while we wait for Kolb and sell the farm to get him. That’s ok his massive track record will pay off in the long run. I thought Skelton was the future that’s why we traded up for him? Why not grab a stop gap QB for a few years and in season four let him take over seemed to work for the Packers. Also I see all the no more good will players from the Steelers days are still on the roster. That’s why the Cardinals are the Cardinals. SOSAC…

  70. By tom on Jul 27, 2011 | Reply

    cheesebeef, i could agree more… if we have the damn money spend you blooming idiots!!!!! open the damn checkbook and make a play on your players!!!! jesus christ! im legitimately mad! im even more mad then last offseason! and boldin is my second fav football player ever! this is seriously mind blowing! the only way they are going to make me feel good is if they sign joseph and sendlein! if they dont then im gonna seriously lose it! what kind of morons do we have running the team! im losing faith in whiz too! SIGN SOME DAMN PLAYERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! we have a lot of money to spend and lose breaston and now we are gonna trade drc and a pick and then sign role players??? what a joke… i cant handle this bs… im gonna start rooting for a new team soon… i will refuse to continue to be a fan of a franchise that loses their players after their first contract and refuses to pay money for big named replacements!

  71. By tom on Jul 27, 2011 | Reply

    drummer, no this bs is getting old… losing players after their first contract gets old! ive been a fan for a long time and ive paid good money to support this team and ive stuck through the bad years but now when we have some success its gone in two years because this franchise refuses to spend money!!!! its a jke! i spend my money so i expect this dam team to spend their money and you are crazy if you think i will continue to spend my money on a team that wont spend its money on me… sorry darren for the rant but i KNOW deep down you have some similar thoughts on some similar issues… you wont say it since you are hired by the team which is expected but i know you gave to be a little fed up with this routine as well!

  72. By Romero on Jul 27, 2011 | Reply

    re: drummer-1

    its not that people are whinning to much its just this team has done nothing to make it better. Kurt Warner took the Cardinals to the superbowl. and now they are just letting everyone go freely. they arent even putting up a fight to keep anybody. People are pissed because after what seemed to be a ray of light we are going to be back into the darkness. We lost DRC and now Breaston and i highly doubt we are goin to put a bid in for an actual receiver. they arent going to go after a shutdown corner. so ya i think that give people (fans) the right to cry and whine all they want. they are paying thousands of dollars to see them and pay for their jerseys. i personally think the cards need to replace the whole front office and management. Spend money to win. What does saving money do for us.

  73. By Matt in Philly on Jul 27, 2011 | Reply

    Dear AZ Cardinals,

    I see our season going down the drain. With the rumors that we’ll be including DRC in a deal for Kolb, and that we don’t plan on keeping Breaston, I find myself asking, “what the heck?” We came into this offseason with serious holes in the O-line and linebackers. Then, rather than shore up those positions by trading down in the draft, we drafted a cornerback, a running back, and a high-motor/low-output linebacker with our first three picks — seemingly ignoring the needs of this team. Then, when it looks like at the very least if we can’t get a pass rush, we’ll be able to defend the passing attack with a great secondary, we decide to get rid of DRC for Kolb (a year after we let another former first-round cornerback go in Antrel Rolle). Kolb, the former third-rounder, with little experience and less actually impressive experience. We go after him, and part with a pro bowl corner (and former first rounder) and a draft pick on top of that. Now, we have a hole at the cornerback position. Then, we decide not to re-sign Breaston, meaning we have two quality receivers under contract, relying on undrafted free agents to produce. At the end of this week we’ll have to address the O-line, the linebackers, the cornerback position, AND the wide receiver position. What the heck is going on? We are going to be terrible next year.

  74. By Mike in Mesa on Jul 27, 2011 | Reply

    Wow, isn’t everyone over reacting. I don’t like the trade either, but I’m not going to rip the organization apart until we get a chance to see how it works out. I’m a Skelton fan so I hope he eventually gets a chance. I wish I had a time machine so I could go back in time and see how many of you were having the same knee jerk reactions when the Cardinals were signing washed up Kurt Warner.

  75. By Mike in Mesa on Jul 27, 2011 | Reply

    Darren do you play fantasy football? This is going to be an exciting year for all of us playing I think. Can’t wait to see how this all shakes out in fantasy land.

  76. By pleasestayfitz on Jul 27, 2011 | Reply

    If by any chance we are actually stupid enough to trade drc for kolb, please God, please wiz, please bidwells, pay ur butts off for johnathan joseph or at least antonio cromartie, wilson, rogers or marshall. I’d hate to say it, but I’d rather give up a 1st round pick for kolb. Preferably two 2nd rounders…

  77. By seven q on Jul 27, 2011 | Reply

    wtf is going on??? please someone help!!! anyone??? football god’s I am prepared to offer you a virgen!!

  78. By drummer-1 on Jul 27, 2011 | Reply

    @Mike in Mesa…. you seem like the only one who gets it.. why complain when all is not done yet..

  79. By Jason on Jul 27, 2011 | Reply

    Orton/Bulger may still be in the mix for less and keeping DRC. However DRC has weakness as we witnessed last year. Keep that in mind everyone. (The future draft picks bother me as well.

  80. By James on Jul 27, 2011 | Reply

    WOW,I just can’t believe this is happening!It’s like a REALLY ,REALLY bad nightmare that I just can’t wake up from.First of all,this DRC trade thing is making me ill.Not only are they proposing to trade DRC(that’s bad enough) but giving up a first round pick too?MY GOD!!!That’s one of the most ridiculous trade proposal that I’ve ever heard of!THEN,if that’s not shocking enough,they’re talking about letting Breaston go too?!I am getting really pissed about this whole thing and this could be a turning point for me as a Cardinals fan(never thought I would ever utter those words).I NEVER come on this site and rip my beloved Cards,and get upset when I see other people doing it,but if the Cards go through with all of this,I really think I could be done as a Cardinals fan.Been in love with this team since they were in St. Louis and I cannot believe that they will allow themselves to be taken by the Eagles like this.And i haven’t even mentioned the o-line situation.If this goes through like people think that it will,I don’t think I’ll be able to watch the NFL this year and CERTAINLY

  81. By James on Jul 27, 2011 | Reply

    The last statement I was trying to say was CERTAINLY not watch the Cardinals!

  82. By drummer-1 on Jul 27, 2011 | Reply

    After last year everyone was saying we need to get better make changes, the team suck as it was, now they are TALKING about making moves and now people are mad about that..You have to realize no matter what move the team makes someone will not be happy..

  83. By mlfan on Jul 27, 2011 | Reply

    maybe slick andy will fleece graves and ken skeleton too

  84. By Scott on Jul 27, 2011 | Reply

    Does it really matter who the quarterback is (Kolb, Orton)? With no offensive line to block they’ll be on iR soon enough & Skelton will be in again…he is NOT a starting QB in this league. Looks like another bad year for the Cards…let’s say we’ll luck into 4 wins.

  85. By Allen in Boise on Jul 27, 2011 | Reply

    Am glad we signed this king guy. Phew, why settle for a franchise te in Zach Miller when you can settle for another journeyman te. Again, on what planet does this make sense. Why do we insist on getting 10 guys who can kinda play the position?

  86. By ron werner on Jul 27, 2011 | Reply

    our mgmt is a joke a lifetime fan since growing up in stlouis all we ever do is draft high , develolp them and then let them leave im so sick of it get rid of weakenhunt he is a joke letting leinart go last yr b4 the season opener has to be one of the stupidest moves in nfl history . derek anderson ?? what a joke

  87. By Cards1Fan on Jul 27, 2011 | Reply

    Why is it when we get back on track theres always an idiot in the front office that screws everything up for the organization.Whisenhunt is soft he aint no Dick Le Beau or Mike Tomlin.Hes tries to much to be them but he just aint sorry to say.By the way DRC and a 2nd round pick for Kolb WTF are the Cardinals thinking?My biggest guess is Whisenhunts looking forward to being FIRED after another horrible season.I bet Kolb will be put on IR by the middle of the season hes made of glass breaks easily.Come to find out its our coaching staff thats the real problem trying to trade guys without a fall back plan.Please tell me Darren that Greg Toler is not our starting at CB?He will continue to get torched by bigger receivers and he knows it himself.WTF Cardinals

  88. By DRC_Fan on Jul 27, 2011 | Reply

    Darren,
    I have a really mportant and curious question. Have you heard anything about the front office wanting to get VY. Them not making a QB move yet has me thiking they are waiting for him to be released by Tennessee.

  89. By Josh (OHIO) on Jul 27, 2011 | Reply

    You People Call Urself Cardinal fans? All I here is complaining about what there not doing, They need a QB, and I’m not sure what games you all watched last year of John Skelton but they weren’t that great. I don’t want them to get rid of DRC either but someone has to get Fitz the ball. I seen first hand how bad Anderson is before the Cards even signed him, and Max Hall (Come on), Skelton may or may not wind up being good, who knows, soooooooooo don’t turn your back on your team just because there not doing what you think they should.

  90. By Brad Wheeler on Jul 27, 2011 | Reply

    DRC for Kolb and a first round? HAHAHAHAHA, i laugh when i get nervous….

  91. By dom on Jul 27, 2011 | Reply

    that kolb deal would be a gigantic gamble. sail or sink, and u r taking the team management with u if u sink. i hate putting that much pressure on u…

  92. By Darren Urban on Jul 27, 2011 | Reply

    DRC_Fan –

    RE: Young

    As I said previously, there isn’t and never has been any desire for Vince Young here.

  93. By Dennis on Jul 27, 2011 | Reply

    Darren,
    Five months ago I said that Breston will be gone, that Eric Metz was never going to let him sign a deal with the Cardinals. Now it’s official that he is a Chief. Next year it’s Fitz going. This is the S.O.S. the Cardinals have been pulling for decades.
    There is no real committment to winning here. Another sub .500 season is eminent.

  94. By Cardinal Joe on Jul 27, 2011 | Reply

    I’m a season ticketholder and a big fan of the game. The Cards should have taken Hasselbach, he is a veteran that knows the Division and knows how to win. I’m not in the Kolb camp. I say pick up Bulger and develop Skelton. Bulger is a Kurt Warner type of QB. A good arm and saavy.

    If we flop this year, we may get “lucky” and get Andrew Luck from Stanford. Giving up a proven DRC and a draft pick for an unproven Kolb is not a good idea. Let’s keep the D strong and stay in the game.

  95. By Haggis Bob on Jul 27, 2011 | Reply

    Wow where was everybody a month ago? I will reserve judgement until after FA is over. You never show all your cards in the beginning, as it were.

  96. By from day1Skeltonfan on Jul 28, 2011 | Reply

    Just heard that the Cards were willing to give up DRC and a 3rd round draft
    choice to Eagles for Kolb,and eagles said NO,they want DRC ….AND a 1st rounder! Cards should tell them sure..”when monkeys fly out of my rear”!
    Now,if Kolb is worth so much and so proven ,why then did the Eagles go and get M.Vick?? You might say,for the future,let Vick mentor him….hahahaha.But thats not what they are doing.Why ,cause he’s not the player they thought he was.They are now playing the Cards for chumps,Trying to get DRC,is one thing.then when they see the Cards willing to throw in a 3rd rounder,the eagles
    call timeout ,squeeze their fat butts out of their custom made chairs,,huddle over in the corner,and after a good laugh,and lots of whispering between chuckles,come back to the table and demand DRC and a 1st rounder.
    My question is….where did the idea that Kolb ,a 7 game starter,of which his play was mediocre in over half of them, was worth a DRC.My thinking is some dumb coach ,who insisted on calling the plays last year and really sucked at it,
    opened his big fat mouth and the name of DRC popped up before anyone could slap it shut.Now they think the cards are suckers and upped it to including a 1st rounder.well,hate to tell ya,the cards probably are suckers .cause any dummy would have ended talks when a player for player trade wasn’t accepted.heck the eagles fan are saying ,”yeah ,Kolb will help you in arizona”
    I say”YOU bs your friends,i’ll bs my friends,but lets not bs each other’! If Cards bring Kolb, they’ll be the laughing stock of the NFL…….AGAIN!

  97. By from day1Skeltonfan on Jul 28, 2011 | Reply

    and another thing while im at it.Why does whiz insist on beanie being the starte?why?Because he was the bozo that pushed to bring him here. Tim Hightower has done everything that has been asked of him.So he fumbled a few times.Why? Cause he is a winner,trying for every inch he could get,and not one time did I see Hightower give up on a run and wimp out of bounds!
    Beanie “fail” Wells on the other hand,injury prone,not worth a 1/4 of the salary he’s paid.Unproven and out of bounds.Give him to the EAgles… for free! Look at the stats.Whiz plays guys he helped bring here and if you question or suggest anything, your gone,Ie:Matt Leinart …Skelton,Hightower,fitz,and Skelton’s younger brother at tightend,who cards just signed.Can you imagine how many passes those boys have thrown to each other over the years..That will be Chemistry in motion!

  98. By eric c on Jul 28, 2011 | Reply

    LB Justin Durant sure would have been a nice addition.I’m amazed at the lack of urgency to sign quality players.5-11,6-10 is not progress and won’t sell out anything.I hope they understand they need to find replacements for DRC and Breaston…and some help for the OL and LB would help.

  99. By Christo on Jul 28, 2011 | Reply

    I love the Kolb move, we need a QB, DRC is replaceable.

    We do have to replace him though.

    Why are we so slow? QB, OL, Pass rush that’s what we needed going in.

    QB check.

    OL Nothing, Colledge isn’t a splash. Nevermind I have heard nothing on our OWN guys being re-signed.

    Pass Rush, maybe not a priority now that we need a CB.

    CB this IS really important now, got get one of the better one’s.

    Kinda scary folks. Decent QB play will only mask so much.

  100. By GoCards13 on Jul 28, 2011 | Reply

    Is anybody talking about the fact that the Cardinals are basically competing against themselves for Kolb’s services at this point? Why give up DRC when nobody else is after the guy? Seattle appears to be set with 3 backup QBs, Tennessee got Hasselbeck, Miami is set on Orton, Minnesota got McNabb and San Francisco hasn’t made any noise about going after him. Just to be clear, I wouldn’t give up DRC for him either way, but especially since no one else is offering anything close. It just doesn’t make sense.

    Darren, if you have the player’s ear, please let DRC know that Cardinals fans don’t want him to go. And if you have management’s ear, tell them the same!

  101. By BIG RED on Jul 28, 2011 | Reply

    Who needs Kolb, when we have John Skelton. What’s wrong with this organization. can’t they see a star in the future. If they get Kolb, I just hope it back fires on them, by paying so much on someone thats going to be on the bench. Skelton will beat him out in traing camp, You go John you can do it. Best of Luck! We’re rooting for you, all Cardinal Fans!

  102. By Lewis on Jul 28, 2011 | Reply

    I absolutely agree on the Skelton comment, That’s why a seasoned veteran QB would be a better decision. The Card’s are dumb enough to drop a talented CB AND a high draft pick on an unproven QB. Would be better off just giving them the first round pick. They are obviously not thinking clearly.

  103. By cards62 on Jul 28, 2011 | Reply

    Here is my plan. We sign Vince Young and trade him straight up for Kevin Kolb.

    Fans especially Tom my quesiton is why do you think the Cardinals will not spend money this year? My understanding is all teams are forced to spend 99% of their cap this year. Is my thinking correct?

    Guys & Gals stay positive for now. Trust me I was very hard on the Cardinals last year on their moves especially bringing in DA and dumping Leinart right before the season started. I am a Cardinal fan for life, but like you guys I want us to win in 2011 and we will all know in a couple of weeks what kind of team we will have for next year. Trust me no one wants to go thru a season like we did with our Cardinals last year, but lets give the organization a couple of weeks. I have to use logic and just think that Graves and Whiz know that 2011 is a huge year for them to turn us around and if they fail they will be fired in 2011 or at the latest 2012. I believed in both of them before 2010 so I continue to hope they learned from their huge mistakes in 2010 and will not do the same in 2011.
    Go Cards!!!
    Go Cards

  104. By Scott on Jul 28, 2011 | Reply

    BIG RED…I want what you’re smokin’ buddy! They will trade for Kolb…but he’ll get hurt early in the season (because we have NO offensive line) & Skelton will start (that’s what you want…right?). We will end up with a 4 win season.

  105. By Lewis on Jul 28, 2011 | Reply

    Unless the trade includes Jackson, its not worth it.

  106. By Lewis on Jul 28, 2011 | Reply

    It’s a sad day losing DRC. Not sure it was a wise move by the Cards

  107. By Andres on Jul 28, 2011 | Reply

    DRC is not a superstar a Above good below great DB, Kolb is a superstar if it wasent for getting injured, Vick would not be the Starer in Philly. Kolb would not of lost that playoff game. Be happy AZ we want warner to come back but he not, we did get the next best thing. Great trade!!!! Long time Fan, miss the day in ASU when tickets were alway on hand.

  108. By Jimster on Jul 29, 2011 | Reply

    Hi Darren,

    What’s the latest on Todd Heap? The last I heard, is the Cards are showing interst.

    Thanks-
    Jimster

  109. By Darren Urban on Jul 29, 2011 | Reply

    Jimster –

    RE: Heap

    I have not heard that.

  110. By BulldogToombs on Jul 30, 2011 | Reply

    Did we sign Nick Eason from the Steelers?

  111. By Darren Urban on Jul 31, 2011 | Reply

    Bulldog –

    RE: Eason

    Yes the Cards signed him.

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