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With QBs hurting, Cards going after help UPDATE

Posted by Darren Urban on August 23, 2011 – 11:07 am

Quarterback John Skelton sprained his ankle in the Green Bay game and missed practice yesterday, while Max Hall had to come out after getting tripped up on a scramble and landing on his left shoulder. Down to two healthy QBs in Kevin Kolb and Rich Bartel, it’s no surprise to see Kent Somers’ Tweet that the Cards will sign former Chiefs QB Brodie Croyle.

– UPDATE: Coach Ken Whisenhunt said Hall has a subluxed left shoulder, the same injury — and same shoulder — that sidelined Hall at the end of last season. It’s a type of slight dislocation. The Cards will have to get someone, but they are “exploring options.” Whisenhunt said he couldn’t say if the replacement would be Croyle. The good news is that if the shoulder problem is chronic — and again, it’s the same shoulder as last year — Hall may only need a few days to recover depending on the pain tolerance. Whiz said Hall will  be further evaluated to find out his return timetable. Skelton looks like he has a high-ankle sprain, so it seems like it will be tough for him to play Saturday.

Wide receiver Early Doucet, by the way, is the emergency quarterback.

At this point, nothing is official. I don’t know what the extent of Hall’s injury is right now. But for those asking, I’d still expect Bartel and Skelton to back up Kolb this season, unless Croyle — or whomever the Cards might sign — is fantastic. The other two guys have been in the system, a new quarterback is playing heavy catch-up, and the only reason he would be here is because of injuries and not because they were looking to add a QB. Croyle could be an option because he played in Todd Haley’s system, which is similar to Whisenhunt’s, for obvious reasons.

Croyle has played in 18 games over five NFL seasons, throwing eight touchdown passes and nine interceptions. He was 8-for-19 for 38 yards in two appearances for the Chiefs last season.


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37 Responses to “With QBs hurting, Cards going after help UPDATE”

  1. By John the draft guy on Aug 23, 2011 | Reply

    Agreed,
    Bartel has really surprised and Skelton has improved his play.

    Looking at the game Saturday, Usually the starting QB plays into the 3rd quarter and the second guy, maybe third comes in. Could you see just Kolb and Bartel playing against the Chargers?

  2. By Darren Urban on Aug 23, 2011 | Reply

    John the draft guy –

    RE: Two Qbs playing

    That is possible, yes.

  3. By Jon on Aug 23, 2011 | Reply

    Do you think they may try starting Bartel during a preseason game just to see how well he does with all of the starters?

  4. By Kevin on Aug 23, 2011 | Reply

    Any word on how they’ll open a roster spot for Croyle?

    Thanks, Kevin

  5. By J-BIRD on Aug 23, 2011 | Reply

    I didn’t think Croyle would be signed to be in the mix. I figure he will be cut unless he is freakin Superman on the field lol! I like what we have already, including Bartel. Aside from that INT that killed that great drive late in the game against Green Bay, I think he has looked very impressive, even after that pick he came back and threw a great strile to Housler. As for Max Hall, as much as we would all love to see him be great, he just doesn’t have the Talent nore size to be an NFL Quarterback. I mean every time he gets hit he is hurt; That’s not good at all

  6. By Darren Urban on Aug 23, 2011 | Reply

    Jon –

    RE: Bartel start

    No.

  7. By John on Aug 23, 2011 | Reply

    Darren,
    how much experience does Doucet have as a qb?

  8. By Blake on Aug 23, 2011 | Reply

    Since Bartel is now the #2 QB with Skelton out, does that mean that he’ll get some reps with the 1st team like Skelton did in the first two games?

    Also, is there any news on A-Dub’s recovery? We all wish him the best!!!

  9. By D on Aug 23, 2011 | Reply

    That last Lenart outing brought back bad memories…
    Thanks for your love for the game Max, you gave it a good shot…

  10. By Dante on Aug 23, 2011 | Reply

    /any chance of going after Daunte Culpepper ?

  11. By Darren Urban on Aug 23, 2011 | Reply

    John –

    RE: Doucet QB

    It was a nugget of info. He’s not ever going to play.

    I think he played in high school, though.

  12. By Darren Urban on Aug 23, 2011 | Reply

    Blake –

    RE: Bartel

    I don’t know the former. As for the latter, he’s plugging away. We won’t know much until after camp.

  13. By Darren Urban on Aug 23, 2011 | Reply

    Dante –

    RE: Culpepper

    Uh, no.

  14. By Jesse Robles on Aug 23, 2011 | Reply

    All I have to say is, Green Bay Packers lost Ryan Grant and Jermichael Finley last year, but still managed to win the Super Bowl. I am not saying were the Packers, or we are going to win the Super Bowl, even though I want to. I am just saying people stepped up and did their job. Losing Ryan Williams is a blow, but we have guys that get paid to step up and make plays, and the guys that don’t, do not make it in this league. Do your job that you get paid to do, we will be ok. We never had a TE, or FB as of late and we do this year, maybe this helps that vacancy. LETS GO RED SEA!! LETS GO CARDS!!

  15. By Blake on Aug 23, 2011 | Reply

    Be cool to see Early Doucet play just to see what he could do.

  16. By georgiebird on Aug 23, 2011 | Reply

    Darren,
    It’s a given that injuries will be a way of life in the NFL.
    What amazes me about the Cardinals is that Clark Haggans and Joey Porter are still in the mix at linebacker. How bad are our young LBs ?? Haggans and Porter were over the hill a couple of years ago. This 3-4 alignment continues to defy logic.

  17. By CJ on Aug 23, 2011 | Reply

    Darren,
    So Doucet is the emergency QB, but who is the emergency kicker now that Hightower is gone?

  18. By Darren Urban on Aug 23, 2011 | Reply

    CJ –

    RE: Emergency kicker

    Great question.

  19. By joelz on Aug 23, 2011 | Reply

    i thought they were releasing Hall anyway? i dont think he is built to be a NFL QB, attitude gets you far as it has him but at some point his play has got to be the main factor. Sometimes i wonder how he sees over the line to throw down field especially with his soft throwing, he has no velocity and a dangerouse ark that dbacks love. Its time to focus on Kolb, Skelton and Bartel…

  20. By Scott H on Aug 23, 2011 | Reply

    John -

    RE: Doucet’s experience at QB

    Hell, he probably has about as much experience as a high school QB as he does as an NFL WR at this point!!! Sorry, couldn’t resist…..

  21. By Jason on Aug 23, 2011 | Reply

    MIght as well leave CRoyle at home or wherever he is. With those numbers Jay Feely might as well come in at QB

  22. By in fitz we trust on Aug 23, 2011 | Reply

    kolb #1 obviously skelton then bartel. but bartel has played well except that one end zone pass. ironic that the back ups did better than kolb, no td for kolb yet this year? lol

  23. By Jon L. on Aug 23, 2011 | Reply

    Wow…I didn’t even know Croyle was still around.

  24. By AndyStandsUp on Aug 23, 2011 | Reply

    Both Kerry Rhodes and Chansi Stuckey played QB in college; I would think they would have a shot at emergency QB as well.
    And didn’t Sendlein do well in a kicking competition with Hightower in a post you did a few years ago, Darren?

  25. By Darren Urban on Aug 23, 2011 | Reply

    AndyStands –

    RE: QB/K

    I am sure Kerry would love a crack at it. As for kicking, I remember Lyle being in one of the summer OTA competitions, but doing “well?” That I don’t remember.

  26. By Exter on Aug 23, 2011 | Reply

    Darren,
    Do you know what running backs the cardinals are taking a look at?

  27. By Darren Urban on Aug 23, 2011 | Reply

    Exter –

    RE: Rbs

    I don’t know if there is anyone right now.

  28. By SteveO on Aug 23, 2011 | Reply

    Darren,

    How about giving Colt Brennan a look. We signed Kolb, who was a system QB at the Univ. of Houston. He’s currently a FA and has experience in cmp with the Redskins nd the Raiders.

  29. By Richard S. on Aug 23, 2011 | Reply

    If they’d sign Garo Yepremian they’d have that backup kicker and a fellow with passing experience as well to fill in at QB.

  30. By Tbru on Aug 23, 2011 | Reply

    With two QB’s hurting, any chance we make a play to sign Donovan McNabb?

    Sorry it hasn’t been asked in while lol

  31. By Tbru on Aug 23, 2011 | Reply

    @AndyStands

    “I am sure Kerry would”

    Wait, isn’t he in the Cubs bullpen?

  32. By Matthew on Aug 23, 2011 | Reply

    Thru you do know Donovann is starting for the vikings right?

  33. By smiley4284 on Aug 24, 2011 | Reply

    Sheesh SteveO, we’ve got to stay away from the Colt Brennan’s and such, they’ve already failed, embarrssed, and flopped out of the league. We need to look at some vets because Kolb is still young and Bartel is raw! Culpepper?

  34. By AJW on Aug 24, 2011 | Reply

    Is St Pierre still having back problems?

  35. By clssylssy on Aug 24, 2011 | Reply

    Another one bites the dust…or two…or…which is what I have been afraid of as far as our depth goes. Family and friends in KC, when I told them about signing Brodie Coyle…well, they are still rolling on the floor! Whatever…if he has what it takes to get him to the NFL, I think Coach Whisenhunt will be able to reach in and connect. Still, I like the way John Skelton stands tall and confident in the pocket and see little in Bartel. Sure hope Coaches don’t cave to the pressure of the fans to play our starters any longer than necessary (some teams aren’t playing them at all) and risk further injuries. Doucet had a stellar career in high school and college although he was injury prone even then. When he’s on his game, he’s hot and I could see him as an emergency QB. Looking around the league, the off season with the lockout, hurt the players and the fans as far as preparation and conditioning and the teams that are going to suffer least are the teams with minor roster changes and changes in coaching staff…hmmm, where does that leave us? That being said, I like the enthusiasm and energy the team has this year just hope they can STAY HEALTHY! This only PRESEASON and DOESN’T COUNT for anything other than as a practical teaching tool.

  36. By Tbru on Aug 24, 2011 | Reply

    @ Matthew

    it was a joke, apparently not a very good one.

  37. By Darren Urban on Aug 24, 2011 | Reply

    AJW –

    RE: St. Pierre

    You’d have to ask him. I just know he’s out of the league.

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