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Kolb knows there will be critics

Posted by Darren Urban on October 5, 2011 – 4:06 pm

One thing you notice about Kevin Kolb: He understands all parts of his job, which includes critical analysis and fans getting upset with his play. Maybe he spent too much time in Philadelphia, long known for the collective critical eye it casts on its local athletes. All I know is there are plenty of players who say they get it when it sure doesn’t seem like they do, and Kolb isn’t one of them.

(Heck, on Monday, when it seemed like every question was about what was going wrong, one question halfway talked about taking something good from the close wins, and Kolb said he appreciated at everyone trying to be positive. And he was genuine.)

So today, when he was asked about fans criticizing his play, he was matter-of-fact. “I’ve been around long enough to know everybody has doubts,” Kolb said. “It’s the same thing if we were going the other way. If we were 4-0, (the talk would be) we’d be going to the Super Bowl, which isn’t the truth either.”

P.S. For those who want to watch a “sneak peek” of tomorrow night’s “A Football Life” about Kurt Warner, click here now (the link will be good until 7 p.m. Thursday night, when the episode of Warner will be airing on the NFL Network).


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40 Responses to “Kolb knows there will be critics”

  1. By Andy on Oct 5, 2011 | Reply

    Is there even the slightest possibility of hostler lining up as a wide receiver? Since he is one of the fastest tight ends in years he should be an excellent mismatch on most corners.

  2. By Jose Mauricio Valles on Oct 5, 2011 | Reply

    Kevin Kolb is a legitimate QB. Fans that boo or criticize him don’t know football. It takes time to master an offense as a QB new to a system.

    Plus, one man is not to blame for the Cardinals woes. The Cardinals defense has looked like they are on a coffee break the last 2 quarters of every game this season.

    Lay off Kevin Kolb. In case you haven’t noticed he is statistically one of the better QBs in the league.

    Go Cards!!!

  3. By Darren Urban on Oct 5, 2011 | Reply

    Andy –

    RE: Housler as WR

    I am sure they will use him out wide sometimes. But if you are asking if he will be used consistently as a wideout? No.

  4. By Born n Bred on Oct 5, 2011 | Reply

    I love Kevin Kolb and the intangables, I believe he possess. If he has an average year this year, ill undersand. I now some people out there will say hes a rob johnson or scott mitchell if this were too happen, heck some ppl still dont like him. I do think the coaching staff needs to find a way to speed up his development. Really the only thing that needs to be sped up is his comfort within the offense. Add periods for passing or make them longer, for pass situations down situation. Pass Skel with 2-man 3-man rush spread out. Rep that game pan.

    Now Brock Oswieler was interviewed before the year about their offense, and he talked about the low percentage he and threet had. And now how he sees the play in his head now after its called bit, bat, boom and thier off. Look at his games for those of you that are Sun Devil fans and his percentage. His comfort level from last year to this year is something to see.

  5. By Procen on Oct 5, 2011 | Reply

    Darren,

    Thank You for giving the “sneak peak”. I really love Kurt and the achievement he accomplished. I’m from L.A and Rams fan all the way until they cut him. I have been following Kurt from N.Y. Giants to his last stop Arizona Cardinals. I am glad coach Green gave him a break and I don’t believed that his career is over then before joining the cards.I’m stuck as a Cardinals fan when he retired. Don’t you think it’s funny? BTW thanks for all your hard work putting up with us “fans”.

  6. By jstn on Oct 5, 2011 | Reply

    kevinkolb is great, he’s a solution we have but it will never work unless the coaches step up. Coaches are the problem, enough said.

  7. By Gilbert on Oct 5, 2011 | Reply

    All those elite qbs were not an overnight success. But I guess because we fans have been seeing success the last few years with this team, we are asking for too much right now. I still believe the team is in better shape than last year and that kolb was a good choice. And I believe bartel is a good qb also. My regards to all fans from el paso Go Cards.

  8. By AndyStandsUp on Oct 5, 2011 | Reply

    Not trying to insinuate anything, just thought I’d share the stats from Warner’s first 3 games with the Cards and Kolb’s: (Kurt injured his groin during the third game.)

    Warner: 64 of 101 696 yards 1td 2 int 9 sacks
    Kolb: 60 of 106 812 yards 5td 3 int 8 sacks

    Darren, do you see any similarities between the two – physically, mentally or otherwise?

  9. By NM Cardinal on Oct 5, 2011 | Reply

    I remember things being said about Kurt when he joined our team, then look at how we shined, obviously nobody is perfect Kurt had his off games. Stay off Kevin’s back, get behind him and give him a chance. I remember many people wanting to cut Warner because we had the saving grace Leinart, hind sight is a beautiful thing.

    Kevin has shown some spark, the thing I am not impressed with, at all, is our secondary, horrible. Our defense cannot let teams get back into the games, period. I am behind Kevin, yes I was upset with what we gave up for him, but that is the business side. This 28 year fan supports #4

    Thanks for keeping us in the loop Darren

  10. By cooldaddy79 on Oct 5, 2011 | Reply

    Yeah,Kevin Kolb is a good qb and he will become great.He will develope over some time.i noticed at the game against the giant’s,he was controlling the huddle like crazy, he’ the leader of the pack. The plyers are following him so thats good.

  11. By georgiebird on Oct 5, 2011 | Reply

    Darren,
    We can all agree that this year is a learning experience for Kolb. If the Cards had a good HC, there would have been times during the 1st four games where Bartel would have been put in for a few series just to try to get a spark. A good HC would then have taken Kolb to his side and tried to slow the game down for him and possibly re-insert him into the game.
    I can’t believe that Whiz is so paranoid and insecure as to want to avoid a QB controversy. It’s especially perplexing because Bartel has performed pretty good as a Cardinal.
    From what I have seen, Bartel is at least equal to Kolb. Head to head, Bartel has done better than Kolb but to be fair Bartel has done his work against 2nd and 3rd stringers.
    It’s seems like the high price the Cards paid for Kolb has made him an “untouchable”- and that’s not good for the team.

  12. By joe on Oct 5, 2011 | Reply

    He deserves all he gets we struggle at corner when we could have had rookie qb that could get us to 1-3 and maybe better down the road the tagline for Kolb was he was experienced and we wanted to win now. After watching three monstrous collapses i don’t know whether to be mad at him or the new defensive cord but I need to see both improving this year quickly, cause all isee in the media is how both are so experienced.

  13. By matthew on Oct 5, 2011 | Reply

    @Jose Mauricio Valles sure didnt look that way against the giants

  14. By Darren Urban on Oct 5, 2011 | Reply

    AndyStands –

    RE: Warner and Kolb similarities

    Not physically. I do think both are gym rats/video buffs who live the game and will study to death.

  15. By UC on Oct 5, 2011 | Reply

    I think people look at Kolb’s price tag and forget that he doesn’t have all that much actual game experience. His happy feet and circular scrambling should go away once he gets a larger body of reference. For what he is now, his price tag was too high, but considering his potential, it might prove to have been reasonable.

    Of course, the moronic coaching staff could do a whole lot more to take some of the pressure off of Kolb. They could do something smart, like allow Beanie even more opportunities to run people over. They could even do something REALLY smart, like move Levi to guard. But, as we know, Kenny’s too smart to fall for those kind of clear, fundamentally sound, intelligent solutions.

  16. By John S on Oct 5, 2011 | Reply

    I definitely do not agree with all these “give him this year to develop” comments. FIrst of all, the reason he was paid big money and brought in here was to perform now, not next year. If they wanted that they could have kept Skelton or Bartel in there this year and let them “develop and get comfortable with the offense”. Second, it seems to me his problem is with quickly reading the field and finding opportunities with receivers and GETTING RID OF THE BALL, like I yell at him every play. I don’t think this is something that’s going to change after 5 games, 15 games, 30 games. I can see saying he needs to get comfortable if he is mis-communicating some plays here and there, but observing him so far I don’t think he is going to improve at all. You would at least see some improvement over the first few games but if anything he’s regressed.

  17. By Chris on Oct 6, 2011 | Reply

    It’s not Kolb’s fault Levi Brown is the worst offensive tackle in the league. Everyone who wants to blame Kolb for the struggles…just remember that.

  18. By AZ Fan in WA on Oct 6, 2011 | Reply

    Thanks Darren

  19. By Joe Holst on Oct 6, 2011 | Reply

    we want bartel! just kidding, kevin has to get rid of the ball earlier.. Any chance of mr.warner coming in and working with him a little bit?

  20. By Rugbymuffin on Oct 6, 2011 | Reply

    When you play as poorly as Kolb has been playing, I would hope he would expect critism.

    The fact the guy is regressing is a major concern.

  21. By James Sancto (English Cardinal) on Oct 6, 2011 | Reply

    It amazes me how much Beanie’s production mirrors that of Darren Mcfadden in his first 3 years in the league. Mcfadden also came out as a first round pick expecting to do great things as soon as he came into the league. DM’s first 3 years yards & TDs [499 & 4, 357 & 1, 1157 & 7]. He was not as effective as Beanie in his rookie year, both DM and BW struggled with injuries in their second years and now BW is on his way to a similar season to that of DM’s third.

  22. By SteveDCO on Oct 6, 2011 | Reply

    georgiebird,

    You’re kidding right? A good coach would have benched the frnachise QB for a guy that played in a 3rd preseason game for the first time ever this year.

    I get the most popular guy on a loosing team is the backup QB but let’s confront reality here.

    Kolb is the guy and will be for a long time. He is playing like a new QB to a system and making mistakes.

    This team could be 4-0 as easily as 1-3 or 0-4. They have had 2 4th quarter melt downs caused by (in my opinion) lack of quality depth on the Dline and OLB. This puts it where DD and CC got caught off the field during the NYG no huddel run. Haggens has played well this year but he needs a rest and Acho and Schofield aren’t pushing them for playing time.

    I get everyone here is upset at the start of the season but lets point fingers at the real issues. DB play has been weak. It is hard to say who is at fault on a lot of the deep passes but either the dafety or CB is getting beat. Our pass rush exist only from or Dline.

    Here is thr silver lining I see so far to the season. If this team had a dominate OLB imagine how good this D could be. Dockett is getting double teamed almost every play and Cambell is turning in a beast. An OLB would make teams pick which one to double Dockett, Cambell or OLB.

    And let’s not forget that Wells is turning into the RB that everyone wanted this team to find. He looks amazing carrying the ball.

    Last, every saying Whiz needs to be fired, please stop following this team. He is the best coach this team has had in my lifetime. One of the reasons the Cards were bad for so long was change at HC and thus change of direction.

  23. By wayne on Oct 6, 2011 | Reply

    If we want to try and save the season, the Vikings game is a “must win”, if we lose this game the Cardinals will not be going to the playoffs starting 1-4 with baltimore, pittsburg after the bye week, c’mon Cards give us something to be proud of and lets also beat Pittsburg which I really don’t think it would be a upset but if we can go on the road and beat Baltimore then I can see some confidence in the team and that is what this team needs.

    Wayne

  24. By zahid on Oct 6, 2011 | Reply

    darren,
    i know what we see on tv is only a small part of what going on on the field, but it seems almost like fitz isnt being trusted to make plays the way we all know he’s capable of doing. watching the plays that calvin jr is being allowed to attempt makes me feel a little jealous.

  25. By jocards on Oct 6, 2011 | Reply

    Taking something good from the close wins?!?!? Shouldn’t that read “close win”…as in one win.

  26. By BIG RED 66 on Oct 6, 2011 | Reply

    I don’t question Kolb at all. What I do question is the offensive game planning and play calling. If they know the Kolb has some things to work on why do they keep putting him in the same situation every week. Our offensive line needs to step up on pass protections. With Beanie running so well why don’t we make teams stop him which would only open things up for the passing game. All Whiz n Punt cried about needing a running game and now that it is here he goes away from it when we need to grind the clock. Thanks god we have Heap or our passing game would be horrible since no other WR can seem to step up on a weekly basis other than Fitz. Maybe the Cards need to have Gibson come in and show the players what it means to have HEART. This week will be interesting to see which team is going to blow it. Hopefully the cards will come out with a victory as our road record is PATHETIC over the last 2 years. If we can’t beat the Vikes the season and Whisenhunts free pass are over.

  27. By Matt in Philly on Oct 6, 2011 | Reply

    I know he hasn’t been here long, but I can’t help but think that Kolb looks a lot like Matt Leinart in the pocket. I’m not comparing the two as total QBs. Kolb is obviously a better leader, has a better arm, and better accuracy. But Leinart also looked skittish in the pocket, couldn’t find open receivers, and didn’t seem to have any awareness of when a rusher was actually bearing down on him. I for one hope Kolb keeps running out of the pocket, lest he get jacked like Leinart did and be out for the season.

  28. By dynasty1717 on Oct 6, 2011 | Reply

    John S and Steve DCO are both correct. John S in the fact that Kolb’s biggest problem is that he struggles making the correct reads quickly, and getting the ball out of his hands quickly. This is something that can be improved slighlty, but can’t be corrected to the level of “outhouse to penthouse”. Let’s hope he is not as far off in this area as he appears to be.

    Steve DCO is correct in that Whiz is BY FAR the best coach the Cards have had in many years. Having HC turnover destroyed this team for years.

  29. By drummer-1 on Oct 6, 2011 | Reply

    @Big Red 66

    What game were you watching sunday?

  30. By Peter in Canada on Oct 6, 2011 | Reply

    SteveDCO -

    Agree with you about Kolb. He is under pressure because the front office paid a high price to get him and then gave him a contract that was in keeping with a veteran QB which he clearly was/is not. However I think he has shown enough given his lack of experiience that we can hope for improvement.

    Whiz is being villified by many of the fans as only being a successl by riding Warner’s coat tails when we won, and the proof is because he couldn’t win with DA/MH/Skelton. He is also blamed by the Leinart lovers. It is of course grossly unfair. No coach could have won last year with what he had and subsequent events proved Leinart is not a first sting QB. As for riding Warner’s coat tails the only coach who won with a poor QB was the Ravens with their awesome defence. We certainly didn’t have that.

  31. By brad oneill on Oct 6, 2011 | Reply

    I think Kolb might be falling victim to the cards philosophy of not adjusting to the strengths of the players but instead demanding players fit into the vision of the team.

    What i mean by this is any film on kolb shows him bailing from the pocket and looking for an outlet early. so they should probably make sure he has a reliable outlet. but instead they want him in the pocket so they remove the outlet all together. he reverts back to his tendencies and is smacked with the reality that coach didnt want him to do that and there is no where to go. maybe it will work maybe it wont.

    we saw the same thing last year when our qbs where asked to make plays throwing that probably had a much higher percentage had the cards stuck to running.

    we see the same thing with our defense, dockett was asked to eat up blockers for subpar linebacker play that was supposed to put pressure on qb but failed, when his strength is getting after the qb.

    adrian wilson being expected to cover which is what a safety should do but his strength is close to the line, if they want him to cover they need to get him back just a bit so he has time to lock in on qb and receivers instead always trying to catch up to the receivers.

    one aspect of our running game that I really like is that Beanie is finally starting to make contact with the dbs on his outside runs. that will pay dividends. It will be harder for the enemy to cover Larry and doucett if they are taking a beating from the running game. imagine getting bulled over by beanie a few times and then having to hand fight with larry after a sprint for a long ball. or keep up with doucett.

  32. By UC on Oct 6, 2011 | Reply

    @Peter in Canada–

    The revisionist history of the Kenny lovers continues to amaze me. Everyone who could see the plainly obvious, that Leinart was the best QB on the team at the time, and that DA had done NOTHING outside of preseason EVER to warrant replacing Leinart, doesn’t by default love Leinart. I personally don’t care for him, but if Leinart is, as you say, “not a first sting QB”, then DA is not a second string QB. And yet Kenny picked him anyway. So hey, that means Kenny had what Kenny caused all by his lonesome. Really, it’s not that hard to understand.

    @brad oneill–

    This:

    “we see the same thing with our defense, dockett was asked to eat up blockers for subpar linebacker play that was supposed to put pressure on qb but failed”

    I don’t think the LB play was all that bad, but you are dead on about how Kenny is improperly using the defensive line. Just imagine what the line could be now if Kenny could swallow his pride, change to a primarily 4-3, and had kept Branch. Man, what a wasted opportunity. Again.

  33. By BIG RED 66 on Oct 6, 2011 | Reply

    @drummer-1

    I was watching the same poorly coached game as you where Kolb had no time to throw as our O-line is one of the worst in the NFL. No timeout on 4th and 2 with the game on the line. What game were you watching. Thats why we need to run more when it is working. Just like Brad O says-why are they not tailoring the game plan to Kolb strengths vs making hime stay in the pocket to get killed due to our horrible O-line. And by the way that 4th and 2 play was the most predictable play that could of been called.

  34. By nooner on Oct 6, 2011 | Reply

    seems people are putting the blame on the kolb and the offense instead of the defense!!!!!! I believe that we were ahead in all three losses right??

  35. By Peter in Canada on Oct 6, 2011 | Reply

    UC – I can accept your argument – maybe.

    If I were a football coach and my choices for #1 QB were beween DA and ML I would equate that with a choice between taking hemlock or arsenic.

  36. By Scott H on Oct 6, 2011 | Reply

    Kolb is really impressing me with his overall attitude. He seems to have a maturity that goes beyond his years and he presents himself well, too. Not really happy with the 1-3 start but at least QB is NOT the problem this year.

  37. By UC on Oct 7, 2011 | Reply

    @Peter in Canada–

    I’d say the choice was between timid but probably mostly reliable versus erratic and proven unreliable. Regardless, there was no legitimate reason for Kenny not to at least try Leinart and see what happened. If Leinart crashed and burned at that point, then DOA was still on the squad.

    I recently saw a video clip of Kubiak saying something like, “After watching Leinart’s confidence return last year, I believe he can be an NFL quarterback.” Kubiak has no axe to grind with Kenny that I’ve heard of, but I think the implication that can be inferred from his statement is telling.

    And Darren wonders why I and others gripe about Kenny’s stupid decisions.

  38. By cardsalltheway on Oct 7, 2011 | Reply

    Fairness, where is it? John Skelton and Bartel know our system so I don’t want to hear excuses about Kolb not knowing the system. Schofield doesn’t know the system but he isn’t allowed to play much. Doesn’t anyone else see the inconsistency here? But when has Ken W. ever been consistent? Inconsistent coaching decisons leads to inconsistent play on the field.

  39. By dikaslogos on Oct 7, 2011 | Reply

    Kolb is more than skittish. He doesn’t have the commitment or the courage to stay in the pocket, find a receiver and deliver the ball. He prefers to prematurely abandon ship and run away from the perceived danger. He ends up taking the hit he was trying to avoid, losing the ball or throwing it out of bounds. Ths way, the Cards waste more offensive plays than they execute.

  40. By sport245245 on Oct 7, 2011 | Reply

    Wow, How many Kolb apologists are there in Phx. He just has not made plays when it counted. I’m talking crunch time when the pressure was really on. Against Seattle, all he needed to give us on more than one occasion was 5 yards to get in realistic field goal range and what happened? I don’t care what you say, 3 opportunities in the final minutes and he couldn’t get it done. What more do you need? Who is it comparing him to Kurt Warner? Huh!

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