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Haley visits Jets

Posted by Darren Urban on January 11, 2012 – 9:16 am

As expected, Todd Haley is exploring other potential assistant coaching options, with the rumored talk with the Jets happening today. About the same time Haley’s name popped up with the Cards was a concept in which he and former Dolphins coach Tony Sparano — with whom Haley coached with the Cowboys, with both developing as coaches under Bill Parcells — would be co-offensive coordinators. Haley would handle the passing game, Sparano the running game. ESPNNewYork.com suggests Haley could also be named assistant head coach (although that combo, with Rex Ryan as head coach, seems like a lot of, ahem, personality at the top of the flow chart).

It’s odd, though, that another ESPN reporter (Chris Mortensen) said yesterday Sparano would be named offensive coordinator. Haley will have some choices, it sounds like. Whether they are the choices he was hoping for, that could be another matter entirely.

In separate yet also-involving-the-Cards news, a Miami report says Jeff Fisher will make a decision today to coach the Rams or Dolphins, and while it may not be finalized, if it is the Rams, everyone wondering what happens with Cards DC Ray Horton will be able to rest easier. Also, new Colts general manager Ryan Grigson was hired today, so the Rams have one less GM choice, keeping Cards’ director of player personnel Steve Keim in play (Plus, Grigson’s younger brother, Dru, is a scout for the Cards. I wonder if at some point, Ryan tries to bring his brother to Indy.)

It could turn out to be an interesting day.


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50 Responses to “Haley visits Jets”

  1. By Rugbymuffin on Jan 11, 2012 | Reply

    An interesting day huh ?

    You mean the Cardinals are actually going to sign Calais Campbell.

    Seriously, what the heck else are they doing right now ?

  2. By Paul H. on Jan 11, 2012 | Reply

    It’s a good thing that Whiz and Haley are friends. Otherwise I don’t think Whiz would care for being played like this.

  3. By carlo italy 7000 on Jan 11, 2012 | Reply

    there is someone of these manager who are hitting the market in great relation with russ grimm and hopefully going to offer to him the head coach job??

  4. By Paradox on Jan 11, 2012 | Reply

    Going to be interesting to see how this all pans out.

    -Darren

    I know our team has been less fortunate (don’t worry, I am determined to search for the voodoo doll in Pottsville).

    Aside from that, would you expect the Cardinals take a big action towards finding an outside DC (if Horton Leaves), or will they likely promote somebody on the current staff?

    Again, nothing has happened, but Bidwells better believe fans will be upset, and I feel bad, for you having to hear and read a lot of negative comments, if all roads wont favor the Cardinals.

  5. By Brian on Jan 11, 2012 | Reply

    Hurry up and bring Haley here, Kolb and Skelton need all off season to study and practice.

  6. By D on Jan 11, 2012 | Reply

    I hear the Rams couldn’t take S. Keim or any other candidate currently employed with another team until after the draft.

    I don’t see a Haley and Rex marriage, not enough H2O to go around

  7. By cdubbbbb on Jan 11, 2012 | Reply

    Haley wont go to the Jets. It would be dumb to go to an organization in shambles. Old defense, crappy offense with no playmakers and a crappy QB, no run game, no recievers, locker room issues, chemistry issues, players anonymously calling out eachother, a head coach who nobody respects, a new OC.

    Meanwhile we have young players on the rise, an impressive defense, an offense that has so much potential, playmakers everywhere, two capable QBs, good coaches, good draft pick, an open position, and love for Haley.

    He will sign his contract with the cardinals by the end of the week.

  8. By kekojones on Jan 11, 2012 | Reply

    That’s too bad Haley may be gone. Wish him well with the Jets.

    Darren:

    Maybe the Cards can consider Brian Schottenheimer???

  9. By CDNelson86 on Jan 11, 2012 | Reply

    Darren,

    NFL.com has a story up saying the Fins did infact hire Sparano as their OC, so one has to wonder what exactly Haley is expecting to get out of working in the MESS…

  10. By Darren Urban on Jan 11, 2012 | Reply

    Paradox –

    RE: Horton plans/upset fans

    I’m not sure why fans would be angry at the Bidwills if Horton suddenly out of nowhere got offered a head coaching job. I don’t know how they’d go about replacing him, but sometimes, guys just get rare opportunities.

  11. By kauaicardsfan on Jan 11, 2012 | Reply

    Hey Darren,
    Would Kurt consider being our QB coach? Or do you think he is content being a broadcaster at this point?
    Or if Haley goes to the Jets is there another QB coach in the mix that they may be looking at?

  12. By bobf on Jan 11, 2012 | Reply

    It would be tough for me to imagine Haley going to NYJ with the condition of the team and leadership AND splitting duties with Sparano.

    Please Ray, stay here!!!

  13. By Darren Urban on Jan 11, 2012 | Reply

    Kauai –

    RE: QB coach

    I don’t know who would be the guy if Haley doesn’t come. I do know — and have written countless times — that Warner has ZERO interest in coaching.

  14. By kekojones on Jan 11, 2012 | Reply

    Darren:

    If Horton Leaves, Whiz probably should go after Todd Bowles.

  15. By cdubbbbb on Jan 11, 2012 | Reply

    Kurt Warner is such a sellout. Thanks for doin what u did here Kurt, but you are the definition of a sellout. Roger Goodell is his puppetmaster.

  16. By Darren Urban on Jan 11, 2012 | Reply

    cdubb –

    RE: Warner

    Not sure why you call him a sellout. He doesn’t want to coach because of how time-consuming it is, and how it would affect his family.

  17. By cdubbbbb on Jan 11, 2012 | Reply

    Not because he doesnt want to coach, that’s fine and I don’t blame him.

    He never gives love to AZ. You’d think after us taking a chance on him, letting him lead this team, create his own offense, and go to a superbowl with him, that he would give us some respect.

    I hear him give props to a lot of players, teams, coaches for good games and making good plays. And haven’t heard him say one thing about Cardinals D, Fitz, Skelton, Whiz, or the Cardinals in general. Not even a “good win” or anything to that effect.

    It’s funny cause I said to him on his Facebook the same thing I’m sayin here right now, and the next Sunday after I posted it on his Facebook he gives the Cardinals a shoutout after a win. That was the first and last time.

  18. By kingreckless32 on Jan 11, 2012 | Reply

    Hey Darren,

    With sparano already being announced to be headed to the Jets, does this mean haley will not be going there since they were suppose to be a package deal?

  19. By Paradox on Jan 11, 2012 | Reply

    Hmm, not mainly the Bidwills fans would be upset with, but upset with how unfortunate this franchise has been in the past, due to lack of big time strides and weak coaching. Fans are already angry with Bidwills, but the semi successful 3 of 5 seasons help a bit (Superbowl run would have been very successful, if we had a win),

  20. By in fitz we trust on Jan 11, 2012 | Reply

    @cdubbbbb if anything the cardinals left a bad taste with kurt after he took us to the sb, we gave him a low ball contract offer after him getting higher offers from places like sf, we was loyal to us, he doesnt have to give us a shoutout lol

  21. By cards62 on Jan 11, 2012 | Reply

    Well cdubbbbb maybe you are Kurt Warner puppet master instead of Roger Goodell since you played him for a Cardinal shoutout ha ha ha.

    Yes Darren these are indeed interesting times, and somethings are outside of our controls. I think you reported that Haley still has a home in Arizona so if not a head coaching job I would hope he would come back to us if the money is the same or even close.Rex Ryan is a mad man like his father so I can not see going there over Arizona.

    I really think if we can keep Horton and hire Haley and Graves has a good offseason that we make the playoffs next year, and hopefully make some noise.

    I am not a Rams fan, but I know their offense was coming on in 2010 with a bunch of players I did not even know and they lost their OC to the Browns Head Coaching job and this year their offense looks sick and they go 2 – 14.

    My fear is if we lose Horton the same fate could fall our defense.

    Excited about next season no matter what happens with free agency and the draft as long as we have Horton & Haley on the sidelines.

    Go Cards and Go Rod Graves as you are on the clock.

  22. By Bob-O! on Jan 11, 2012 | Reply

    @cdubbbbb and you’re Crying to Darren because???? if you have issues with the Legendary Kurt Warner, shouldn’t you address that with the Legendary Kurt Warner? He’s an NFL analyst and therefore I assume it’s in his best interest not to be biased towards one team, a team that went to the SB but did not win. What about the Rams? He WON a SB there and we don’t hear him say much about the Rams. psst, it’s because he’s a true Professional *wink*

  23. By APCARDS on Jan 11, 2012 | Reply

    Looks like Sparano got OC job at Jets. Haley seems like he is holding out for HC or Asst.HC jobs-hopefully he ends up here as OC!
    Rex Ryan may be on the hot seat in NY-he probably wants to go where he think he can replace someone relatively soon at the HC position. As for AZ, I think Whiz will be here a while so maybe that is not as appealing to him.

    Darren-is there any chance the Cards could offer an Asst HC/OC job to Haley as opposed to Russ Grimm? Or some other way to secure him such as a fairly long contract(3-4 years)?
    Thanks!

  24. By Darren Urban on Jan 11, 2012 | Reply

    kingreckless –

    RE: Jets situation

    Well, he’s still talking to them apparently and must know what’s up with Sparano. I don’t know know if it means anything or not.

  25. By clssylssy on Jan 11, 2012 | Reply

    Haley and the Jets…sounds like a song, BUT REALLY, can anyone imagine Ryan and Haley together??? The weather is resort weather in Arizona vs. Hell frozen over even worse than KC in New York and there is no parking! Let’s just get the deal done so we can concentrate on keeping Horton as DC and working on a PLAN! From the looks of things, if the Cards could get the basics nailed down we would be in better shape than the majority of teams. Haley still has a house here so that should work in our favor…somebody close to the source implied…
    Kurt was a nice guy but without Haley and an extraordinary supporting cast, I’m not sure he would have had the 2nd bite ate the apple. He still had one year on his contract and walked…could have stayed in a different capacity such as a consultant or QB coach and that is what makes him seem like a sellout.

  26. By Darren Urban on Jan 11, 2012 | Reply

    APCards –

    RE: Haley job?

    I don’t know what role he would have. I’m not sure they’ve even discussed such things yet.

  27. By brad oneill on Jan 11, 2012 | Reply

    warner makes his home here even though he works in california. Just because you haven’t seen him shouting the praises of his former team doesnt mean he doesn’t have love for them. he is trying to make a living as a broadcaster and that requires him to be somewhat neutral, yes he may be overcompensating by not even giving the cards a smile but from what i have seen, he has been very appreciative of the cards and the fans.

  28. By jerry on Jan 11, 2012 | Reply

    Warner has praised the Cards before and also dropped some suttle hints about quarterback throwing and issues about Skelton last season. As for coaching moves, praise them for moving on to better opportunities and dont get mad. I think you fans would take a better job if it was offered to you with more money and advancement.

  29. By Peter in Canada on Jan 11, 2012 | Reply

    I think it is really time to move on from Warner. I enjoy watching the tapes of those playoff wins but it’s all in the past. He retired because of the concussions, period. Anyone who doubts that watch the Warner story. He has no interest in coaching. He has said so and Darren has said so more times than I care to remember.

  30. By Scott H on Jan 11, 2012 | Reply

    Damn…my how quickly things can change. Now, maybe Haley might land somewhere else and Horton might REALLY be a candidate for the Rams job??? I was so hopeful of getting one and keeping the other…and NOW, maybe they’re BOTH gonna be somewhere else???

    Jeff Fisher, you suck! Shoulda taken that Rams job and let us breathe a sigh of relief. Hope you fail miserably in Miami.

    And just me, but I don’t see what could POSSIBLY be appealing about taking ANY coaching job with the Jets right now. They were a mess on the field during the season and they continue to be a mess off the field. And Sanchez regressed horribly this year ( apparently, some of his teammates feel the same way ) and seems to have caused serious doubts about his future. NOT where I’d want to be right now if I were an OC looking for a job…

  31. By NJAzCardsFan on Jan 11, 2012 | Reply

    Darren- Could you please explain how Horton who has a contract with the Cards can break that contract to go somewhere else. Doesn’t ones word mean anything any more??? The Cards gave him a chance when no one else did….. So much for loyalty. And yes I know he hasn’t left yet.
    Thanks!

  32. By Tony Hite on Jan 11, 2012 | Reply

    Hey Darren:
    A big thank you to you for what you do, and I hope someday, years down the road, I’m lucky enough to take over for you when you “retire” from covering our beloved Cardinals.

    Not sure where this talk from the fans of Kurt possible coaching came from, but I hope the fans remember that just because you can play quarterback successfully in this league. that does not mean you have the ability to coach.

    While I do hope they bring back Haley to fire up our offense and its play-calling, I believe it’s more important to the Cardinals’ success next season that Horton stay so they can have some continuity going into next year as well as an offseason for the players to get his system down pact. I also hope Keim sticks around as well since he’s helped the Cardinals put together a decent string of drafts in the last few years.

    Again, thanks for all you do!

  33. By Darren Urban on Jan 11, 2012 | Reply

    NJAz -

    RE: Horton contract

    It is simple, really. HC jobs are few and far between. When you have a chance to get one, usually a guy has to jump at it. You can’t begrudge that. As far as loyalty, guys get fired all the time. Loyalty doesn’t play into it. It’s how this works. Haley was under contract with the Cards when he left for the Chiefs job. Idnhave to look, but Whiz might have been under contract in Pitt when he came to Az.

  34. By Tony Hite on Jan 11, 2012 | Reply

    @NJAzCardsFan

    Horton doesn’t owe the Cardinals anything. He wasn’t out of a job going into the offseason last year. He still had a secondary coaching job in Pittsburgh and it’s assumed he would still be there today had he not become Arizona’s defensive coordinator. We gave Horton a chance, but a chance that he would either have earned elsewhere or soon enough.

  35. By Tony Hite on Jan 11, 2012 | Reply

    http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2731184

  36. By CreditCard on Jan 11, 2012 | Reply

    Please vote:

    Which will come first:
    1. Peace in the middle east
    2. Cardinal OC

  37. By Scott H on Jan 11, 2012 | Reply

    Tony Hite -

    Right on, brother. If being a great QB automatically translated to being a great QB coach, then every team in the league would have a former great QB as their QB coach. Instead, what do you see? You see many lesser known, career back-up types occupying those positions. Meanwhile, Troy Aikman,, Dan Marino, Steve Young, and now Kurt Warner are all doing something other than coaching. It seems to me that DOING is one thing….teaching it to someone else is quite another.

  38. By Dave on Jan 11, 2012 | Reply

    Seriously? They didn’t even give Miller a chance. He had a hack QB to work with and has only been in the position for one year. Miller has the brains and the talent to get the job done. Now if the Bidwell’s would spend some of their money to bring in a quality QB to pass to the best WR in the league, it would be a different story.

  39. By lg on Jan 11, 2012 | Reply

    i cant help but feel sorry for hue jackson the raiders was one game from the playoffs and they fire their head coach after one season when i see sh** like that it makes me thankful for whiz at least he got us to 8 and 8 but we gone bring the pain next year watch and see i cant wait!

  40. By Darren Urban on Jan 11, 2012 | Reply

    Credit card -

    RE: OC

    The Cards already have an OC. They don’t have a QB coach.

  41. By AndHeSansSupper on Jan 11, 2012 | Reply

    Credit card and Darren,
    One is talking semantics and the other semitics.
    Tomatoes, to-mah-toes.

    What I don’t get is the firing of Miller without an agreement to hire Haley immediately. I personally don’t believe Chris would have been released unless an agreement for Todd was in place.
    Supposedly, Whiz and Haley are friends. Is money a factor?

  42. By Card's Chick on Jan 12, 2012 | Reply

    @Paul H,

    Why do you think Whiz might be feeling like he is being played by Haley if they weren’t already friends? In every career there is a desire to advance and/or choose a position which is the best fit for an individual. Coaching at the professional level is no different. Whiz knows that…

    It would be great to have Haley back in some capacity, and I definitely do not want to see Horton go any where. But if they make a career choice that takes them away from the Cardinal’s organization, then I will wish them all the best as they move on.

    Besides, do you think Whiz would have a problem firing any of his coaches regardless of friendship status??? It is a business…plain and simple.

  43. By jacey39 on Jan 12, 2012 | Reply

    Darren, what’s the deal with Special Teams Coach Spencer’s contract. Our special teams have been the only consistent aspect of our team for the last four years….statistically leading the NFL last year (rookie in ProBowl, blocked punts, punt return TD’s, etc). It would be a shame for the Bidwell’s to pull a “bidwell” and lose this guy….20+ year veteran coach. I just don’t get it – get this guy signed NOW, pay him his worth, quit being so cheap, and then move on to other experiments, aka Haley’s return. Concerned to say the least.

  44. By Darren Urban on Jan 12, 2012 | Reply

    jacey39 –

    RE: Spencer contract

    You seem to know an awful lot about the situation …

  45. By drummer-1 on Jan 12, 2012 | Reply

    @ jacey39

    First things first it’s (Bidwill ) learn that before you complain about them, 2nd just because they haven’t called you and told you what’s going on within the org. doesn’t mean they’re not trying to restructure or resign players and coach’s..

  46. By jacey39 on Jan 12, 2012 | Reply

    Daren – wow, quick response….it just rubs me the wrong way when all we are hearing is Haley this and Haley that, when we have some great coaches that are not under contract.

  47. By kkleishman on Jan 12, 2012 | Reply

    drummer 1 is right – behind closed doors management will get it right. The Bidwill’s will get Spencer’s deal done

  48. By jwimmer2 on Jan 12, 2012 | Reply

    The Jets have named Sparano as their new OC. This may be good for the Cards.

  49. By jerry on Jan 12, 2012 | Reply

    Where can you get Warner Story from

  50. By William Barry on Jan 17, 2012 | Reply

    We must NOT let steve Keim go, he has been great in formulating the draft, and other personnel matters.

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