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Whisenhunt: Peyton no longer an option

Posted by Darren Urban on March 16, 2012 – 1:49 pm

With everything happening today, Cardinals coach Ken Whisenhunt released a statement in regards to Peyton Manning and Kevin Kolb. Here it is in its entirety:

“Regarding today’s developments and our quarterback position, acquiring Peyton Manning is no longer an option for us.

“Since the end of last season we made it very clear that our plan was to head into 2012 with Kevin Kolb and John Skelton, let the process play out and – like at every position –  go with the quarterback who gives us the best chance to win.

“Obviously something very unique and unexpected presented itself. We’ve said it many times: if there’s an opportunity to make our team better we’ll explore it; we view the potential of adding a first-ballot Hall of Fame quarterback as one of those. The organization quickly put together an aggressive plan to go after it. We’re proud of that and feel very strongly about what we have to offer as a team and as an organization. In the end it didn’t work out but from our perspective it was very positive and we certainly don’t have any regrets about it.

“We sit here today in the same spot we were heading into the offseason. That’s with two experienced quarterbacks who have both demonstrated positive things in the past and who we feel good about. Like we said at the end of the season when we won seven of the last nine games, carrying the momentum of that strong finish into 2012 is important and that remains unchanged.”


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216 Responses to “Whisenhunt: Peyton no longer an option”

  1. By Tranell on Mar 16, 2012 | Reply

    @Darren will the Cards restructure Kolb’s contract?

  2. By beez on Mar 16, 2012 | Reply

    pleaseee get rid of kolb. for the sake of the team. skelton has proven to be the better qb. makes me sick to see kolb run out of the pocket and head to the sideline 9 outta 10 plays. its not fair to the fans who support the team, to have a team that doesnt win, and who possess players like kolb.

  3. By Troy Baker on Mar 16, 2012 | Reply

    I think we should of CUT Kolb and saved the money. Skelton is our starter. PERIOD. Whoever made the choice to draft Levi over Adrian Peterson and ship out DRC and a 2nd round pick need to go. Or let me make decisions. I wouldnt of let Marshall go either and would get Calais signed long term deal. He will win 2 games alone for us this season.

  4. By AzGodwin on Mar 16, 2012 | Reply

    We don’t need Manning to win…Go Cards!

  5. By Cards4ever on Mar 16, 2012 | Reply

    I, for one, am happy that this is over and we’re heading forward with Kolb. I think he was judged unfairly last year for his play. He now has the opportunity to show his full potential this coming year since he’s had a full season in our system and will have a full off-season. Im excited about the Cardinals this year! Defense wins championships and our Defense is gonna be stellar!

  6. By Mejj on Mar 16, 2012 | Reply

    Good luck Cards with your DUMP truck QB Kolb …He will give the cards what stingy Bill Bidwell deserves, last place in the NFC West.

  7. By Eric Hutchins on Mar 16, 2012 | Reply

    YES!

  8. By Pheenic on Mar 16, 2012 | Reply

    Manning took too long deciding. Good decision by Coach Whiz. Kolb and Skelton will be fine next season.

  9. By CDJ on Mar 16, 2012 | Reply

    lets keep moving forward darren do u think the cardinals should try and pursue Wimbley who was just cut from the raiders? of course so long as he comes at the right price

  10. By Gil on Mar 16, 2012 | Reply

    Thats ok, there was something there that the Cards saw last year in Kolb and hopefully it emerges full force this season. Good job cards, cant wait to see the future NFC West champs this fall!!

  11. By Andy K on Mar 16, 2012 | Reply

    Great decision by Ken Whisenhunt. Manning craziness is finally over

  12. By L-Boogie on Mar 16, 2012 | Reply

    Okay…. enough said… Let’s get back to work and start becoming a complete team once again!!!

    “C” Red, “B” Red!
    Go Cardinals!

  13. By vnk on Mar 16, 2012 | Reply

    I’d like PM to join the 49ers. Then our D should retire him.

  14. By Lee on Mar 16, 2012 | Reply

    March Madness is less stressful than the Cardinal’s decisions at QB.

  15. By gryndyoyster on Mar 16, 2012 | Reply

    we need to get Hines Ward

  16. By Mack on Mar 16, 2012 | Reply

    Darren-
    Do you think we should go after Mcnabb?
    :D

  17. By Donnie on Mar 16, 2012 | Reply

    I wonder what would happen if John Skelton becomes the starting QB… do we stick with paying Kolb the same amount of money sitting on the bench? Just curious to know what kind of scenarios will play out….

  18. By Brent on Mar 16, 2012 | Reply

    Peyton is class for letting the Cards know before the deadline with Kolb.

  19. By smack28 on Mar 16, 2012 | Reply

    Now it is time to address the other needs. We need another CB, a pass rusher, a WR, and another OT. Let’s get that done before the draft. I do appreciate the organization making a run at Peyton. This is a great sign that this organization is serious about winning. Thank you for the excitement!!!

  20. By carlo italy 7000 on Mar 16, 2012 | Reply

    darren

    did u hear about eventually kolb restructure contract this season( from 10.5 salary to 4.5) .with some cap romm do u think they will try to sign bell and wimbley.could u tell me your opinion about these 2 players

  21. By John S on Mar 16, 2012 | Reply

    Great Whisenhunt.. you go ahead and “let the process play out” like you always say. In the meantime while that’s happening I’ll do my tiny part and be sitting at home and not spending money on tickets or increasing stadium noise for the defense. Wow another year of the same personnel and the same result. As the season goes on, Darren will start posting whether or not the game is a sellout because its unexpected it will be. Great mentality. While another team goes 13-3 and brings PM in for a work-out. Yea Whiz let it play out thats doing wonders.

  22. By Chuck on Mar 16, 2012 | Reply

    I hope he ends up a Niner…this way we can show him why he should of become a Cardinal. Meet AW!!

  23. By Darren Urban on Mar 16, 2012 | Reply

    Tranell —

    RE: Kolb restructure

    I do not know. They could.

  24. By Darren Urban on Mar 16, 2012 | Reply

    Carlo —

    RE: Bell/Wimbley

    Again, I see interest, but I don’t see it being a lock.

  25. By Jens on Mar 16, 2012 | Reply

    Darren,
    Any interest from the cards on bringing in K. Winbley now that he has been released?

  26. By D on Mar 16, 2012 | Reply

    If it looks like PM goes to SF, then AZ must restructure Larry and Bradley to go crazy after Wimbley because our defense will need all weapons we can get to compete with them….

  27. By Julian on Mar 16, 2012 | Reply

    Cardinals Re-Sign Kevin Kolb?!?!? A guy who is extremely injury prone and had a 1-6 record last year. Are you serious, now were out of contention for Peyton Manning and/or another QB free agents like Drew Brees, Matt Flynn, Alex Smith, Charlie Whitehurst. Well now all we can hope is that Skeleton starts

  28. By Blistering Fury on Mar 16, 2012 | Reply

    OMG…..not the McNabb lovers again……Do we really have to go down that path once more? Did any of you see him play last year? Let’s call Favre while we are at it, or how about Marino. I hear Joe Montana is available. Maybe Sid Luckman or Joe Namath. WAIT, I GOT IT…..Kurt Warner……Sheesh……Grow up some of you.

  29. By Mr. Know It All on Mar 16, 2012 | Reply

    Kolb is motivated to prove he is worth the money and Skelton did what he had to in 7 wins even though Cards won with Defense and Special Teams avg under 20 pts a game. Better QB and OL play will make the difference.

    I will say that AZ is and was the best place for PM to play with 12 indoor games, L Fitz to throw to a Defense that was #1 in 3rd down conversion last 8 games and access to some of the best Doctors and Trainers in the country.

    It is funny that Peyton might play in “Bone Chilling Cold” Denver lol. If PM choses to try and get TNT a Super Bowl Championship can’t blame him for that.

    Go Cards!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  30. By Scott H on Mar 16, 2012 | Reply

    Losing out on Manning is not a big let-down since I never really saw it happening anyway. BUT…Manning with San Fran??? THAT is trouble. Now, I really DO hope he lands in Denver or Tennessee! Keep him out of the NFC West, please.

  31. By Scott H on Mar 16, 2012 | Reply

    Did someone actually mention McNabb again? Really? To quote Jim Mora – YOU KIDDIN’ ME??? That is so idiotic, it barely deserves consideration. Idiots like that cannot be helped, so…onward.

  32. By Eazy E on Mar 16, 2012 | Reply

    Gosh every REAL cardinal fan should be disappointed. Now, we go back to Kolb?! Ugh… If we go into the draft and otas and minicamps and season with Kolb, Skelton, and Richard, I hope Skelton wins, because Kolb is not good clearly. Let’s make some more moves now that the best and biggest move is not going to be a cardinal. Damn!

  33. By cardsalltheway on Mar 16, 2012 | Reply

    Lost out on the P. Manning show to the 49ers, not surprising. Ken W.,…fighting! P. Manning coming to AZ was a sham done for PR because in the end, we quit. We didn’t have to quit if Ken W. didn’t believe in the 2-6 overpaid, often injured, nearly always dodging rush K. Kolb who has already and automatically got the # 1 QB job without real competition. Give me Skelton and Bartel but not having the confidence of the coach is deflating ~ I sympathize with both of them.

  34. By Zach on Mar 16, 2012 | Reply

    I think that this was the best option for the Cardinals. As much as I would’ve liked to see Peyton Manning in Cardinal red, I think this works out for the best. With a better offensive line, Kolb and Skelton will have a better chance at success. You also have to consider that last season they did not have an offseason and they still managed an 8-8 record, that’s pretty impressive considering where they were and the fashion they did it.

    Darren,
    Is there any more word on the situation with Laurent Robinson of the Cowboys? I’d like to see him play for us.

  35. By dan on Mar 16, 2012 | Reply

    I knew he wouldn’t come here, could tell by his body language. He’s going to Denver.

  36. By NJAzCardsFan on Mar 16, 2012 | Reply

    It will be interesting to see have many games PM will play once they season starts. PM wants too much for being “Damaged Goods”. Hopefully, the Cards will use the $’s they would have spent on PM, on a few quality FA’s to fill some gaps. Kolb seems to be staying out longer each time he gets a concussion which isn’t good for him. Too many more and he will have to retire.

  37. By drummer-1 on Mar 16, 2012 | Reply

    I’m thinking john S don’t know much about football or can’t read very well.. It’s Whiz Fault because Manning decided to play else where.. dude grow up..

  38. By cardsalltheway on Mar 16, 2012 | Reply

    QB Knuckleheads!

  39. By Chuck on Mar 16, 2012 | Reply

    Kolb back?Levi back? We are now back to same ol Sucky Cards!

  40. By azfancolo on Mar 16, 2012 | Reply

    Awesome blog Blistering Fury! Manning will probably land in Denver, and who cares. I would like to give Kolb the chance, but I just think Skelton has the guts to do it and do it right. Like all the other bloggers we do need a strong #2 wr and either Roberts or Doucet to be a solid #3!

  41. By calicard on Mar 16, 2012 | Reply

    Darren,

    Any word on other free agent wide receivers (or other free agents) visiting the Cardinals? If we miss out on Brandon Lloyd, Manningham or another true #2 speed receiver, then I think we’re looking at an under .500 season based upon our schedule and talent level.

  42. By jonnyb on Mar 16, 2012 | Reply

    from what i have heard they are going to restructure kolbs contract

  43. By Mark in Chandler on Mar 16, 2012 | Reply

    I know that Whiz was trying to reset the situation but unfortunately the fan base now has a bad taste in our mouths we didn’t have before the flirtation with Manning. Some frustration towards the franchise, some for Manning who jilted us (and that negative feeling will be multiplied ten fold if he lands in San Fran), and some negativity towards a nebulous frustration that we can’t define but we know is there and it eats at us. Illogical on all accounts but the emotion is there nonetheless and the danger is that if this frustration is allowed to sink down it may stay and flavor the coming year. The Cards need to have some different news in the next couple of days like Wimbley coming in for a visit, or Bell signed at an incredible deal, a trade where we pick up a 2nd round pick etc… some good news that we can chew on… something to wash the Manning taste out of our collective mouths. We need a reason to refind that optimism we had coming into the off season.

  44. By tucsteves on Mar 16, 2012 | Reply

    wow what a bunch of losers. whisenhunt says hes not persuing manning anymore and everyone is taking it out on kolb. thats just sad. kolb hasnt done anything to derserve what people are saying about him.

  45. By Craig on Mar 16, 2012 | Reply

    I am glad the Peyton thing is over and welcome Skelton to be our Quarterback of the future. Would be nice to have Kolb at a lower salary but don’t think he will be open for renegotiation already.
    If I were running the team I would spend our first pick on Reily Reiff or Jonathan Martin and then trade all the rest of our picks to any team after us in the first round and pick Cordy Glenn and finally have a offensive line that people fear instead of laugh at. We don’t need any more position players. Have plenty of wide receivers if anyone would just give them a chance and the line would give the quarterback a chance to find them.
    Also I can’t wait to see Ryan Williams TEAR IT UP!!!!

  46. By wonderingwhy on Mar 16, 2012 | Reply

    Wholey cow we paid Kolb 7 million to go fishing after somebody bumps him in the head again. Is the cardinals staff insane? Kolb was out for nearly half the season last year and it will be even more this year. We are going to be on the top 10 dumbest trades in nfl history show soon.

  47. By Mike on Mar 16, 2012 | Reply

    Wish the cards cut kolb, took the 7 mil. and put it towards 2 yr deals with lloyd and bush/jacobs…it would give us the #2 wr we need and a solid back up rb/3rd down back for the cards…rb and wr that are left will be going cheap…look what hillis got…

  48. By cobra on Mar 16, 2012 | Reply

    There have been a lot of good coments, and a lot of bad ones so far. Like I said 3 days ago, time to move on. If PM wants to be a 69er that’s great. One less QB in the NFC west to deal with through the whole year. I think the cards won’t forget this one. Not sure it affected FA much though. This may have been a blessing in disguise. Time to finish FA and a good draft.

  49. By Darren Urban on Mar 16, 2012 | Reply

    Zach —

    RE: Laurent Robinson

    Robinson signed with the Jaguars.

  50. By Ron on Mar 16, 2012 | Reply

    D, do you see us interested in tackle Eric Winston or maybe bring in wr Braylon Edwards once he’s healed up?

  51. By drummer-1 on Mar 16, 2012 | Reply

    OK Darren, i’ve just about had it.. Please ban Cardsalltheway…

  52. By in fitz we trust on Mar 16, 2012 | Reply

    i hope peyton does NOT sign with the 9ers, face it, that would be scary for us. peyton makes any recevier better. we will not be able to match there offensive talent. sorry to say.

    this is what will happen, based on salary numbers kolbs gonna start, u cant afford to pay him that much to sit on the bench. i just cant see them cutting kolb with atleast one more year to perform. IF kolb gets us 10-6 or better the deal is worth it. if we miss the playoffs then he will be cut, or forced to restucture. either way im excited to see him progress. might be worth while buying those 39.99 kolb jerseys now lol

    we now have some o line stability, i would like to see us draft a cb, or a wr in the first round, we might be able to land blackmon

  53. By Jason on Mar 16, 2012 | Reply

    Right, good. I mean, who needs the post season anyway? It’s December, it’s cold (well, when we go to other places to play), people start making a big fuss about you being a decent team….who needs the aggravation?? I mean, we won %50 of the games we played last year, that should be good enough, right?

    OK, enough bitter sarcasm. Bottom line is that we do NOT have an answer at QB. Kolb did not produce. Yes we won 7 of our last 9, but look at those games! Low scoring, 3 overtime wins against mostly sub par teams. We EEKed out a win against the RAMS!! 7 Million dollars, but hey, we’re Arizona. 8 and 8 is not a losing season right? (OK, so one more sarcastic comment, so I’m bitter…)

  54. By roberto on Mar 16, 2012 | Reply

    now that the PM thing is over. you hearing if cards got any FA visits sced? Im thinking another OL, 1WR, a DL, and a couple CB’s since Marshell is gone! what you thinking?

  55. By Darren Urban on Mar 16, 2012 | Reply

    Ron —

    RE: Edwards/Winston

    Winston probably too pricey. No on Edwards.

  56. By Jason on Mar 16, 2012 | Reply

    I just went back and read a lot of the comments. I love the false optimism. Apparently you guys haven’t been AZ fans for long. THere’s all this talk about Skelton and Kolb being fine…I got news for you folks, we were 17th in passing last year. 17TH!!!! 19th in total offense. We did NOT produce, guys! That’s the bottom line. We must have a solid QB, and if you think Skelton and Kolb showed that they were, you’re overly optimistic, or just plain lying to yourself.

  57. By RAM on Mar 16, 2012 | Reply

    Forget manning we will be fine without him. GO CARDS!!!

  58. By Ricky on Mar 16, 2012 | Reply

    Kolb is the starting QB for the Cardinals. Anybody who thinks Skelton is a starting QB in the NFL is just kidding themselves! Skelton is barely a backup QB! His 11 TD, 14 INT, 68.9 Passer Rating says in all! The reason the Cardinals went 6-2 in their last 8 games were because of a greatly improved uprising of the defense!!

  59. By BIG RED on Mar 16, 2012 | Reply

    Well, I guess we’re stuck with Chicken Little, again (4). What a waste.

  60. By Matthew on Mar 16, 2012 | Reply

    Darren right now are there any receivers the cardinals are targeting?

  61. By AndyStandsUp on Mar 16, 2012 | Reply

    So did Kolb restructure contract or has Suzy Kolber taken too many Joe Namath kisses?
    And does being pro-Kevin make you a Kolber?

  62. By Card's Chick on Mar 16, 2012 | Reply

    Good to hear. I think we will be fine. Kolb has far more opportunity to prepare for this season than last. And, Skelton is a great back-up. I for one am slightly salty that Manning didn’t even have the courtesey to put in a call as with the Dolphins. But hey…I’ve heard things about karma…

    Now I am looking forward to an O-Line that makes any QB look like a HOFer!!!

    Get busy Whiz and Graves…and open up that purse Mr. Bidwell!!

  63. By james b on Mar 16, 2012 | Reply

    i have no faith in the cards they have signed 1 lowsey free agent havent enterviewed any wide outs no d players its another crapy season i will never go 2 a game as long as a bid will is in charge sell the team to some one who cares i HATE U BID WILL 4 maken every foot ball sunday SUCK with no real play off chance

  64. By Rich on Mar 16, 2012 | Reply

    Great job by the Cardinals to take a strong shot at Manning. We are still in good shape. Go Cards !!!!

  65. By Andy M on Mar 16, 2012 | Reply

    It was a “hail Mary” anyway. It actually presented the Cardinals in a very good light to the national media and players throughout the league. I think Whiz’s statement was gracious and artful. The momentum achieved by the team at the end of last year has not been lost.

  66. By cards62 on Mar 16, 2012 | Reply

    I have to tell you I am not happy with our first week of free agency.
    Hopefully it will get better with a true # 2 receiver or a stud OLB, or a very good OT.

    I really wanted Peyton Manning. If he was healthy I would have guaranteed you we are in the playoffs in 2012. The money on jersey sales alone would be enormous.
    The excitement would have been incredible. To a couple of you fans wishing that Peyton goes to the 49ers the only thing I have to say to you is Get back on your meds quickly as you are falling.

    I am still hoping for the best and playoffs for 2012. I just hope our OL is better and we can run the ball better to give Kolb and Skelton a better chance to look good in 2012. Open competition at QB and let the best man win. I do not care if it is Kolb or Skelton. I just want one of the guys to play well and a 1,500+ 12TD+ season for Fitz.

    Go Cards and Rod Graves you are on the clock so get us 1 or 2 free agents that we can get excited about.

  67. By emm7777 on Mar 16, 2012 | Reply

    We will be ok, they just need to switch Kolb and Skelton’s salaries. Seriously, I don’t understand what people saw in Kolb in the first place. He has done here exactly what he did in Philly, scramble to his right and get knocked out.
    He would make a fine backup though.

    Also, the guy making the Mcnabb comment was clearly joking.

  68. By brad oneill on Mar 16, 2012 | Reply

    of all the teams in the Manning derby I would say the Cards and of course the 49ers were in the best position to move on without him. I like our odds with Kolb and if that doesn’t work out Skelton is a strong number 2. I’ve got no problem with a team going after a once in a lifetime player and coming up short. Now we know if megatron comes available Larry might have to sweat it. :)

  69. By vegas4u2012. on Mar 16, 2012 | Reply

    john s-please go back to your cowgirls/raiderettes.maybe supporting them will be a better investment for you!i am a true(supports their team through thick or thin)fan.

  70. By John on Mar 16, 2012 | Reply

    Everybody,
    Peyton is either going to end up like Montana 90’s or Favre 09-10′.. Thats the only way I see him ending up.

  71. By Bryth on Mar 16, 2012 | Reply

    Honestly people need to stop freaking out and being babies over the Kolb situation. Im sure Darren doesnt want to hear every other “fan” shouting and crying about how our FO is “dumb” and no one knows what they are doing. I may not think every decision makes to much sense at certain times but I trust that the GM and coaches do have a plan (and ill trust it over any “fan” on the outside looking in who doesnt understand the business of football), it’s just getting the pieces in place to execute that plan. Last season was bad because of the lockout. Im looking forward to cheering for my Cardinals this season. Being from PA, I only get to interact with other Card fans over the web, and my overall analysis is that 90% are whiners and crybabies, and the other 10% are understanding and can actually have a decent discussion about football.

  72. By johnnybluenose on Mar 16, 2012 | Reply

    my feeling is that bidwill, graves, whiz et al did their best to get manning. manning prefers not to come. that’s his loss, i think. and manning does not seem in any hurry to decide where to go. i expect jerry jones to make his pitch any day and trade romo to the dolphins to make room for manning. why not? i don’t care where he goes now. i’m just glad we can concentrate on our team. cannot wait for the draft. hope there is another patrick peterson-like player available for us. let’s roll!!

  73. By Mr.Ramirez on Mar 16, 2012 | Reply

    Peyton would be good but couldn’t do good without a great line anyways. At least let Kolb get his offseason with this new line to fit in.

  74. By Linda Lerner on Mar 16, 2012 | Reply

    Thanks coach Wiz for getting off the crazy Peyton ride, he lied, it is all about the money! I hope Kevin and John prove we don’t need Peyton afterall!

  75. By Keith on Mar 16, 2012 | Reply

    For all you naysayers, Kolb started last season on short notice. His stats were almost identical to Skelton, who by the way had the better defense? That’s right our defense didn’t jel until the end of the season. I stand behind whatever QB gives us the best chance to win. They deserve our loyality all your negativeness needs to go. If you want a winning team then I say choose another team.

  76. By shawn on Mar 16, 2012 | Reply

    i dont see why everyone is upset we had like no chance at peyton once tennesse got involved. but we should feel good with kolb and skelton, both have a lot to prove and i bet kevin has a big chip on his shoulder ready to prove something.
    i say we go after bell and wimbley then stick to our guns in the draft like we did last year not really feeling needs but best talent available and i could see us going after malcolm floyd kids crazy good and with his at number 2 roberts in the slot we will be once of the best offenses in the league especially with ryan williams and benie wells next year

  77. By Bob on Mar 16, 2012 | Reply

    Hey Darren: Don’t you feel PM was being a little “dishonest” or “disingenuious” with Cards by not informing them to go in another direction until Friday especially after secretly meeting with the 49ers on Tuesday night? His camp seems to have let the Dolphins know fairly quickly after meeting with them. But he appears to have strung the Cards along even though behind the scenes meetings were taking them out of the picture. Seems to me Cards were initially used to help drive a more viable and/or lucrative market for him. When they say its never about the money, it usually is. The more this drags on, the more it appears to be a well-orchistrated ploy by Manning not so much to find the perfect “football” fit but to create the right “market” price for himself. Wonder how Whiz really feels now after “waiting” a full week to hear from his golf buddy about his intentions while he was secretly meeting with a division rival two full days earlier???

  78. By georgiebird on Mar 16, 2012 | Reply

    Darren,
    Good to see Levi back. Levi is a durable tackle -his scores would be much better if the Cards’ QBs were better.
    As far as QB goes, this was a bad day for the Cardinals. The Cards kept Kolb who is now one big hit away from retirement. The Kolb signing will continue to be an albatross for Whiz. There is no way that Kolb beats out Skelton who is 4 years younger and can handle a hit. Bartel is probably an equal to KK. This is another example of how Whiz’ stubbornness will eventually get him fired because his luck with close games can’t go on forever. But if Whiz should try to force feed KK to the fans, even the slow acting Bidwills will realize that the KK experiment was no better than the DA one.

  79. By Rick B on Mar 16, 2012 | Reply

    I don’t know what anyone else thinks about this but….seems to me we could really hurt the niners by signing Alex Smith to compete for a QB position here. I’m not saying to give him Peyton money or anything but if we took their QB and Peyton doesn’t sign with niners seems like money well spent.

  80. By Kyle on Mar 16, 2012 | Reply

    Darren, so Evan Mathis lives in Arizona and wants to be a cardinal. Why do the cards continue to bypass him. U should mention his name to graves. What do u think about him?

  81. By andrew on Mar 16, 2012 | Reply

    okay, to all the people that are saying the Cardinals are going to have another terrible season, you appernetly aren’t true fans. I know, im upset about not getting PM also, im not going to trash talk my own team though. im a loyal fan, and will stick by the Arizona Cardinals all the way. Either Kevin Kolb or John Skelton starting this year, the Cards still have a chance at a possible super bowl title! You people need to think, kevin didnt have and offseason to learn the offense last year. Now going through a whole season, and now in the offseason, he has a chance to become a great QB for the Arizona Cardinals!

  82. By Todd from Safford on Mar 16, 2012 | Reply

    I am a true Cardinals fan and can’t help but notice how many people that leave comments are not. Excuse me but a very large portion of people that leave comments “tick” me off! Peyton Manning is obviously someone we do not need here. Michael Bidwell has done a first class job building a very respectable organization. Who the heck does Manning think he is? He’s playing girlie games and going to make many organizations look like fools. Not the Cardinals. Personnaly I would have counted him out a week ago. Kevin, I got your back buddy. You to John and Rich. All you criticizing why don’t you stay home and leave the seats to true Cardinals fans. I bleed Cardinal red and I can say that with 100% honesty. Our defense will prove who’s the best this year. Our offense is gonna make vast improvements with the extra time and preseason game this year and the arrogant Manning family will only wish they were Cardinals. We will have a spectacular year and all you negative people will eat your words! Darren, Ken, Russ, Larry, Darnell, Calais, Patrick, La Rod, Kevin, John, Jay, Levi and all the unforgotten rest, you are proof that the Bidwells are a class act! Peyton, see ya and hope you freeze your rear end off! Peyton who?

  83. By christian on Mar 16, 2012 | Reply

    dude seriously get rid of kolb and draft someone thats worth it

  84. By stewart badly on Mar 16, 2012 | Reply

    The NFL network has the cardinals with the worst cap space of all 32 teams $ 448,961, why did we franchise tag Cambell if we didnt have the money? we shoul have done is tender him with a firsth round draft contract, and if a team takes him we get a first round draft pick, DT in the 3-4 deffense dont make that much money, their job is to make the LBs look good, DT in this system can be replace in the 6th or 7th round (David Carter) we are putting the money in the wrong places….start drafting OT and OLB with our high draft picks and stop using high draft picks on RBs (beanie Well 1st rd. and Ryan Williams 2nd rd) they are no good if you don’t have a good offensive line, get those RBs in the 6th or 7th rounds. GO CARDS

  85. By Darren Urban on Mar 16, 2012 | Reply

    AndyStands –

    RE: restructure

    As far as I know, he did not restructure.

  86. By Darren Urban on Mar 16, 2012 | Reply

    Bob –

    RE: Manning notice

    I dont know exactly what the timeline was or how it affected things. Tough to rip PM without those details.

  87. By Darren Urban on Mar 16, 2012 | Reply

    Kyle –

    RE: Mathis

    How do you know he wants to be a Cardinal?

  88. By Eric on Mar 16, 2012 | Reply

    I understand the NFL catch phrases “it a business”, and understand what being professional is, but what damage has this process cause to the chemistry of the offense? Of course we should have tried to get Peyton to play for us, but now that that opportunity is gone, what has the process done to Kolbs state of mind? Pro Athletes, many of them, have fragile egos, and I can’t think of anything more damaging to an ego than watching your current team go hard after a replacement for you, and now that it didn’t pan out its “well, I guess your it kid”. I’m sure Whiz will do his best to smooth things over, but the damage is done. How is KK supposed to believe the team and fans want him and have his back? Dismiss this idea all you want, but I see it being an issue. Time will tell. I’m not worried about KK’s ability, he never really had a chance last year anyway to get the offense down and get in any kind of rhythm. What does concern me is he becomes more prone to head injuries as they accumulate and as much as I hope he stays healthy, I don’t see that happening. We’re playing some pretty nasty D in the division now, and next years schedule is no joke. The biggest reason I wanted PM was to mentor Skelton. I believe he is our future and with the proper guidance, I really think he could be a very good QB. Let’s hope KK is working on his footwork instead of fishing. It won’t take long to find out come September.

  89. By Tranell on Mar 16, 2012 | Reply

    @Darren Urban do the Cards even have cap space to sign a Demetrius Bell without getting Calais Campbell under a long team contract first?

  90. By in fitz we trust on Mar 16, 2012 | Reply

    i just bought a kolb jersey, 40$ lol for some reason they didnt have skelton. didnt larry petition for kolb???? dont care what anyone says, if we didnt get kolb when we did, we might not have gotten fitz signed when we did. id rather have kolb as a bust an larry locked for 8 years, then not getting kolb and larry not wanting to resign due to the non qb factor…..( which still exsists but hey, larry is locked up )

  91. By Bryth on Mar 16, 2012 | Reply

    @ Todd From Stafford

    I like your thinking and style. Be my friend? lmao

  92. By Bad Bad Vinny Gore on Mar 16, 2012 | Reply

    Give Kolb his chance. How well did any quarterback do his first year in a new system, aside from Newton. They tailored to his strenghths. Why would you cut him, you’ve already paid him.

  93. By Ken Cadena on Mar 16, 2012 | Reply

    You gave a 7 million bonus to a Bum that won ONE game, Not smart. Ken should of ditched the 2 Bum’s when he could. The Card’s need to draft a franchise QB, that is hungry and has talent. KK is not as good as AZ thinks he can be. We are going into the Jake the Snake Plummer days again.

  94. By Eazy E on Mar 17, 2012 | Reply

    The Cardinals have a rep on striking out on big free agents i.e. Nnamdi Asomugha, Charles Woodson, and now Peyton Manning. The last BIG free agent we actually closed the deal on would be Edgerrin James.

    Darren-

    Please tell me that that stinking roster bonus didn’t knocked us out of the running because that is what i’m hearing?!?!

  95. By Kyle on Mar 17, 2012 | Reply

    Well, last year he said he lives in Arizona, works out with cardinals players and wanted to talk to whose hunt about playing for us

  96. By KK Fan on Mar 17, 2012 | Reply

    I honestly don’t understand the intense dislike toward Kolb by so many of the fans. Kevin has been wrongly maligned . I thought only some Eagle fans had cornered the market on , hatefulness when it came to Kolb. Guess there is idiocy everywhere.

    Give Kevin a full off season , a decent O line to protect him, and watch him disect a defense.

    When he was with the Eagles he had 2 NFC PLAYER OF THE WEEK awards. Do you honnestly think that would have happened if he was as bad as many of you on here are telling yourselves he is? It takes time to adjust to the changes in an entirely different system. Especially given he had no prior time to adjust before the regular season got under way. But apparently its another trait many Cards fans have that Eagle fans do. Little patience, or understanding of what all is involved in mastering something completely different that what you were use to.

    Many express their concerns about Kolb being one hit away from another concussion. That’s true of every player on that field. It is not restricted to Kevin alone. However, the solution to that is to get a solid Oline to protect him.

    While I’m on the subject of PM, do you honestly believe that had PM been 100% healthy that the Colts would have let him hit the open market? There was a reason they wouldn’t take the risk of shelling out that 28 mil .But hey, he’s Payton Manning it’s ok if he doesn’t get through an entire season. He’s got pedigree Kolb doesn’t.

    As far as Kevin not being worth the money. Nothing motivates a player more than people doubting them. I have a good feeling that Kevin will have a huge chip on his shoulder to prove you all wrong. I’ll be the first one here to say “I TOLD YOU SO”, and love every minute of your humble pie eating.

    As for his restructuring his current contract.I belive if the Cards were to ask him to restructure. I’ve no doubt that knowing it would help the team to enable them to get the players they want , he would do it in a heartbeat. Because Kevin is a team player.

  97. By desertspin on Mar 17, 2012 | Reply

    Ken W quote “something unexpected presented itself”. Yeah, 49er interest in Peyton Manning. The Niners greatest fear was us with PM as our QB next year. They jumped into this circus for one reason only – to keep their division rival from getting PM. We just got blindsided by SF, so to our team & their fans, remember that next year when we go into the season & whoop their collective a***s.

  98. By Andy K on Mar 17, 2012 | Reply

    Are Braylon Edwards, Chaz Schilens, Mario Manningham and Brandon Lloyd on the list of receivers the cardinals are looking at?

  99. By Andy K on Mar 17, 2012 | Reply

    Exclude Chaz Schilens, sorry

  100. By Andy K on Mar 17, 2012 | Reply

    The NFL website says “Free-agent guard Evan Mathis told me Friday the Ravens offered him “a nice deal” and he is flying home to Arizona to weigh his options.”, Does that mean Evan Mathis is visiting the Arizona Cardinals or just flying to his home town Arizona to think about what he should do?

  101. By Matt in Philly on Mar 17, 2012 | Reply

    I’m growing a little weary of this strategy being employed by Whisenhunt with his quarterbacks. You simply cannot continue to string young guys along like this. I may work with defensive players or running backs, but the QB position requires that a guy is 100% focused. Howe can you be 100% focused when you have to worry about giving the coach even the tiniest reason to give your job to the other guy? I think it worked with Kurt Warner because he had been in the league for so long, and was a grown man, with a wife and kids. Kolb and Skelton are not like that, and I feel like Whisenhunt just needs to take a gamble, pick a guy, and go with him. My opinion? Trade Kolb to whoever doesn’t get Manning/Flynn for a 2nd rounder (Cleveland maybe).

  102. By cardsalltheway on Mar 17, 2012 | Reply

    Todd from Safford,
    “I am a true Cardinals fan and can’t help but notice how many people that leave comments are not.”

    Ha ha ha!!!

    “Excuse me but a very large portion of people that leave comments “tick” me off!”

    So what!

    “Peyton Manning is obviously someone we do not need here. Michael Bidwell has done a first class job building a very respectable organization.”

    You disagree with fans so they aren’t fans like you aye? Michael Bidwell must’ve thought we needed P. Manning so you must disagree with M. Bidwell. In this case who is not a true fan, you or M. Bidwell?

  103. By Darren Urban on Mar 17, 2012 | Reply

    Tranell –

    RE: cap space

    I’d think they would have to make some moves.

  104. By Sir60 on Mar 17, 2012 | Reply

    Kevin Kolb may be forced to retire after his next concussion, which could happen at any point in any game. I think it was a mistake to keep him. Skelton’s only problem is his concern, early in a game, of making a mistake. Instead of throwing the ball when it should be thrown, he is taking an extra split second to evaluate the defence and then throws too late or tries to guide the ball or takes a sack. Later in the game, he’s angry with his poor play and just starts winging the ball and it works. Our OC should call a few running plays for John early in the game to shake off the worry and get him more involved. I think we will see a much improved John Skelton this year.

    I would have liked to see PM playing for the Cardinals, but at his age and possible physical problems, the price would have been to high. Successful teams all have strong offensive lines. Spend the money there.

  105. By Darren Urban on Mar 17, 2012 | Reply

    Kyle –

    RE: Mathis

    I never saw anything like that. Link?

  106. By Darren Urban on Mar 17, 2012 | Reply

    Andy K –

    RE: WR

    I have not heard anything new.

  107. By Darren Urban on Mar 17, 2012 | Reply

    Andy K –

    RE: more Mathis

    He lives here. That’s all.

  108. By Larry White on Mar 17, 2012 | Reply

    Darren

    Have we invited anymore free agents and if we did who are they, or are we resolved in waiting for the draft?

  109. By R Robles on Mar 17, 2012 | Reply

    Who’s on our free agent radar Darren? Anything On Feely?

  110. By Giorgio on Mar 17, 2012 | Reply

    let’s get real at look at an NFL teamas a business for a minute. give Kevin or John a real (not imaginary) shot to win by surrounding them w/the right personnel/sort of players that play to their strength. not say, a hodge-podge of former over the hill Steelers. that’s what they do in Green Bay (they live and die by the draft solid young guys who can fit the GB syestem), New Engalnd, New Orleans, the Giants, and recently SF to some degree. somebody wanted Kolb awfully bad, so live with him and have him run plays that will make him and the team WINNERS. the Cards would have to change up their offense signal calling to fit Manning (Manning is your on-field Offensive Coordinator), so do something similar here to maybe a lesser degree. look what SF Coach Harbaug did in SF w/Alex Smith…in a lock-ut season no less!! a QB doesn’t usually reach the pro level and not have some smarts. that said we all know there are players who get taken or traded that don’t fit the systems as hoped. is that what we are going to learn about Kolb, and even Skelton in a year from ?? re Skelton, no question the guy is big, strong , athletic, and has talent, but going to Fordham, a great school for smart people, you have to wonder if he can make the reads. not that he’s not smart, he is and deserves a shot, but will he be able to make. the biggest thing that worries me about Kolb, or any other high-priced hyped in the media player, including Fitzgerald is their health, and will they hold up. we shall see. if i’m the Cards i look at my business/coaching model and ask myself do i have the players to WIN. if ya don’t ya better find them and stop horsing around the edges.

  111. By BIG RED on Mar 17, 2012 | Reply

    Well, if you think kolb will go into spring training with vengence, Skelton will be going in more confident that he knows that he can take chicken little.

  112. By mrcucu on Mar 17, 2012 | Reply

    Kevin Kolb’s happy feet and lack of accuracy make him an average QB at best, and BTW, that is only when he is healthy. He is one concussion away from taking the bus back to Texas for good. This will truly be a break it or make it year for his NFL career.

  113. By Darren Urban on Mar 17, 2012 | Reply

    Larry —

    RE: Free agents

    None that I have heard, but no, I don’t think they are “resolved in waiting for the draft.” Patience.

  114. By Andy K on Mar 17, 2012 | Reply

    Hey Darren,
    Why did the team cut Chansi Stuckey?

  115. By drummer-1 on Mar 17, 2012 | Reply

    I am sure glad none of the fans that post on here runs the team, we would really be in trouble.. We would be a Billion dollars over the cap or have no players at all, because if they had a bad game, it would be they suck cut him..

  116. By Mark on Mar 17, 2012 | Reply

    Gotta get another receiver. What about Manningham? He would be a nice compliment to Fitz. I am however, happy to see the Cardinals are addressing the O-Line. Cause without that, you got nothing.

  117. By cardsalltheway on Mar 17, 2012 | Reply

    Sir60,
    “Kevin Kolb may be forced to retire after his next concussion, which could happen at any point in any game. I think it was a mistake to keep him.”

    That’s because Kolb doesn’t want to end up like Jim McMahon who is on the list of former NFL players suing the NFL.
    Jim McMahon: ‘My memory’s pretty much gone’

    http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Jim-McMahon-My-memory-s-pretty-much-gone-?urn=nfl-284214

    “Players accuse NFL of negligence”

    http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/6874906/jim-mcmahon-other-players-sue-nfl-concussions

    “The plaintiffs include two-time Super Bowl champion Jim McMahon, who has said he played through five concussions but now frequently walks around “in a daze” and forgets why he entered a room.”

  118. By brad oneill on Mar 17, 2012 | Reply

    Hey everyone we were used to get leverage for Peyton against the 49ers. That is a great fit for him, it makes all the sense in the world for him to go there. what better way to get their attention than to be courting their rivals.

    yup he winked at us but was secretly writing love poems to the 49ers.

  119. By cardsalltheway on Mar 17, 2012 | Reply

    Ken W. and Co. gotta be losing sleep over how little the unproven Matt Flynn’s contract is worth because it will show again how the Cardinals overpaid the unproven K. Kolb. Thing is, Matt Flynn will do better than K. Kolb in his first year, especially at avoiding sacks.

  120. By Darren Urban on Mar 17, 2012 | Reply

    Andy K –

    RE: Stuckey

    Haven’t heard anything official yet, but when you make a chunk of money, don’t earn a lot of playing time and your team is snug up against the salary cap, it’s not a good combo.

  121. By Chris Lewis on Mar 17, 2012 | Reply

    I’m just glad the Manning drama is finally over with, at least for Arizona. I just hope to God he doesn’t go to the 49ers. That would add insult to injury considering we not only lost out on him, but for him to go to our division rival, I don’t even wanna think about it. I’m disappointed in Peyton in the way that he left Arizona hanging, knowing they had a deadline. Darren, did Peyton notify Arizona letting them know that he wasn’t considering us, and everyone kept it hush hush, or did he just not even bother to let us know anything, and we finally just gave up on him? I’m curious to know the whole story. Thanks!

  122. By georgiebird on Mar 17, 2012 | Reply

    Darren,
    In your answer to Andy K re:Stucky- for a second I thought you were talking about KK.

  123. By Darren Urban on Mar 17, 2012 | Reply

    Chris –

    RE: Manning

    Not sure we will ever be told exactly what happened.

  124. By cobra on Mar 17, 2012 | Reply

    drummer – !
    There will be good comments and then bad ones. I’m not sure when you bought the cards, my guess is, you don’t have any say. Your last comment confirmed that pretty much.

    We all want what is best for the team, and if they are actually cards fans, have the right to express their thoughts.

    Nothing against you, just saying, everyone is a little frustrated right now and should chill a little!

  125. By kkfan on Mar 17, 2012 | Reply

    @ Andy K, Evan Mathis has resigned with the Eagles . A 5 yr deal. It was posted on their home page just a few hours ago.

  126. By fightingbird on Mar 17, 2012 | Reply

    Hello Darren I really dont write much on these things but I read them every day and I want to thank you for all the info. and for putting up with the BS that some write. I want to ask your opinion on how do you think BIG JOHN SKELTON will do this season ,do you think that he will get the starting job. Its only your opinion ,nothing against the other two guys but I think with what hes done so far and getting more experience with the offense I think something special is happening. A QB from a small school makes it to the NFL and not being drafted high watching QBs come and go but stillwaits for his time and when the bugs get worked out with time then BAM we have a star.

  127. By Chris Donals on Mar 17, 2012 | Reply

    I think Kolb is a good QB. He showed that in Philly. Making the offenxive line sturdy with the recent signs is great for Kolb. We also need another wide receiver like we used to have with Boldin. Too bad we couldn’t pick up Garcon. All the good free agent wideouts got picked up by now. Fitzgerald will carry the load again this year. Who’s gonna step up to catch passes? Last year we saw some tight ends in the league have breakout seasons. Do we have anybody at tight end to catch a lot of passes? With the better O-line, now we need some players to catch passes from Kolb if you expect him to have a good season. Who is a hero?

  128. By Cactus jeff on Mar 17, 2012 | Reply

    Stubborn…… just don’t believe in more than one weapon. They believe Andre Roberts is good enough. Cardinal faithful and Peyton don’t agree. Starting to think it’s an ego thing between front office and the Q fiasco.

  129. By BIG RED on Mar 17, 2012 | Reply

    It would be nice if the 9ner’s would get pm, and then A. Smith would sign somewhere else and then down go’s Manning. Then we would have the 9ner’s where we want them……..Spinning, Spinning, Spinning all the way down. If we could dream about having PM, why couldn’t we dream of this idea. Never say, never.

  130. By Steve Lee on Mar 17, 2012 | Reply

    Levi and Kolb better work like professionals to earn their pay. Like maniacs! They better put Fitz to shame with their work ethic. I want to see them work til they puke or get dizzy from effort. For millions of bucks, i want to see winners.

  131. By Scott H on Mar 17, 2012 | Reply

    Well, there goes ANOTHER quality WR off the board…and big friggin’ surprise that the Cardinals were nowhere to be found. Brandon Lloyd is now a Patriot. Hey, good for them. And I’m sure he WILL be good for them! Same old-same old. As free agency goes on for 31 other teams, THIS team doesn’t do squat. What, no old and washed up Steelers to go after?

    I guess after 8-8, they figured they have everything they need. Trouble is, the 13-3 49ers are still trying to get better. Imagine that…

    OR…maybe when the rest of the world set the clocks ahead by an hour, the Cardinals set THEIRS’ ahead by a week. As a result, they think FA doesn’t start until Tuesday of this COMING week! A-HA! That’s it! But, hey, nothing to worry about…I’m sure Hines Ward will still be available at that time and ALL of our WR problems will be solved. Reat easy, everyone.

  132. By Scott H on Mar 17, 2012 | Reply

    Should we bother having hope for Mario Manningham? Or, should we wait for Jerome Simpson to either get arrested of suspended, thereby making him much more of a bargain? Seems like hoping for any player is the surest way to ensure they will be anywhere but here…

  133. By #No-One on Mar 17, 2012 | Reply

    Alright, Kolb is terrible. He is worth about much as you’d pay for fast food. I’m tired of terrible decisions being made by this teams manage or the Bidwills being to cheap.

  134. By vnk on Mar 17, 2012 | Reply

    With Manningham also in the fold, 49ers are looking even more potent on offense..aarrgh! Is the Cards front office really that satisfied with its current receiver corps?!

  135. By Fatdog on Mar 17, 2012 | Reply

    Darren would the cards look at M Bush now that they are out of the Manning sweepstakes Bush would be a good ground and pound combo with Wells.

  136. By SteveDColirado on Mar 17, 2012 | Reply

    For everyone freaking out that the team is doomed, please remember this team won 7 of its last 9 games.

    I know FA is fun but as Darren reminds everyone almost everyday, Super Bowls aren’t won through FA, so just chill.

  137. By Darren Urban on Mar 17, 2012 | Reply

    Fighting –

    RE: Skelton

    I think Skelton will have a chance to be the starter but I think Kolb will be tops on the depth chart going into the season.

  138. By Matthew on Mar 17, 2012 | Reply

    Darren why are we just sitting by not signing anyone when the 49ers just signed manningham?

  139. By Matthew on Mar 17, 2012 | Reply

    and plenty of other teams are getting better than us by the minute just to add to that

  140. By BIG RED on Mar 17, 2012 | Reply

    Darren, besides your inside knowledge and Kevin’s big bucks. What makes you think kolb is way better than Skelton. Could you give us a better understanding. People keep saying that Skelton was just lucky that he played when the D was playing better. And I say for someone that is getting paid like Kolb (money for someone that is already a proven veteran) shouldn’t he be scoring points like crazy. I might be wrong, but one thing that JS didn’t do was lose games, might not have won by alot, but didn’t lose the games either. So, I might call the competition even or a slite on Skelton side. I’m just glad we didn’t get PM and let the man with the biggest heart win the starting job. I know Whiz will make the right decision. I’m still hoping that the Cards make a trade with Cleveland I wouldn’t mine McCoy for Kolb.

  141. By Eazy E on Mar 17, 2012 | Reply

    Darren-

    You didn’t answer my question, did the cardinals get eliminated because of the kolb deadline?

  142. By in fitz we trust on Mar 17, 2012 | Reply

    dont forget that we have rob housler, we spend our 3rd round pick on him, watch his college film, dudes a beast, hes tall and fast hes gonna be a match up nightmare with most linebackers i HOPE he has a breakout season. we need one more solid tackle and a wr and we will be good.

  143. By earlbb88cards on Mar 18, 2012 | Reply

    49ers get PM cards are never getting to the playoffs, we gotta get dynamic on offense to compeat and Andrea Roberts and Duecet is not gonna cut it, we need vets at WR we got enough youngsters, bring in Lee Evans and Plaxico Buress and at least we add an eliment of jump ball redzone on both sides of the field, you gotta be kiddin this managment and coaches think this team is ok,they smoking something.

  144. By Brandon on Mar 18, 2012 | Reply

    Darren do you think the cardinals might trade down and also get a 2nd round to ?

  145. By kkfan on Mar 18, 2012 | Reply

    @ Chris D. I agree Kevin is a good QB. And can be exceptional if given the proper supporting cast. But no QB can withstand the beating he took last season. I know the Skelton fans here will argue that . But when John took over for Kevin the defense had improved IMMENSELY. And THEY kept the opponets offense off the field ,to give the few points that Skelton was able to put up, hold up to get the “W”. Anyone denying that is lieing to themselves. He also already had a full season under his belt in the play book and no doubt being the practice team QB. That is a HUGE advantage over someone just comming to the team and unfamiliar with the system.

    I am unable to watch the games but I do get the audio pass from NFL network and listened to every game the Cards played last season. Both Kolbs and Skeltons. And I know that had Kolb been able to get the play book, and had an off season (OTA’s. mini camps, and a full two weeks of TC) you guys would have seen the real Kevin Kolb. His dad was a coach for god sakes. Do you think is dad would have taught him wrong how to play the position?.

    Many on here praise Skelton because he came from a small school. Well Kolb’s footwork is being questioned by many fans. Well, the fact that he played his entire collage career in a spread offense out of the shot gun position could explain why he his having to adjust to the behind center and the pocket awareness abilities in the NFL. But it takes time.

    He was a four year starter in collage. That doesn’t happen if your not any good. His senior year he had a total of 30 TD’s to only 4 INT’s. Tell me again how inaccurate he is . How much of a bum he is again, with those stats and abilites.

    Anyone with any common sense and not blinded by hate , knows that it takes time to adjust to the NFL level of play. But if you have any ability at all you will adjust to be effective. Not everyone can be a PM, or an A, Rogers, or a D Brees. But they wouldn’t be what they are today either ,had their coaches not had confidence in them and stuck with them to get over the hump.

  146. By Terry Baker on Mar 18, 2012 | Reply

    Like ya, Coach. (the way you do things)
    Always have. Always will.
    Thanks for the past effort….and
    this incredible (historic) ride coming up!

    (Done a lot of Arizona history over the years.
    In the earliest days, many called it “Arizonia.”
    Sounded like an empire!–appropriate for what
    you’re building with the new Cards now. Thanks.
    …Happily, of course, there is “Lawrence of Arizonia”
    (Fitz) leading the way, eh? And, luckily, we’ve even
    got a Skelton in the closet! Have a GREAT year, team!!)

  147. By cardsalltheway on Mar 18, 2012 | Reply

    Darren,
    If Moss beats us you owe Cardinal fans an apology as you’ve done your best to place him in the gutter. If I remember correctly you said he would be lucky to make the HOF or something like that. Well, if he catches a pass against your man Toller or whoever alone on an Island to beat us, then what you gonna have to say?

  148. By Darren Urban on Mar 18, 2012 | Reply

    Big Red–

    RE: Kolb v Skelton

    I never said he was way better than Skelton. I expect both to have a shot at the starting job. I don’t think Skelton was lucky. But I do think the Cards and Skelton benefited from improved defense and I disagree with you — Skelton did play bad enough at points to lose games, but the defense held it together. The stats between the QBs are virtually even. Skelton clearly looked better in the pocket. I may even agree to say Skelton, based on last year, deserves a slight edge. But it’s funny, you say based on the money he should produce more, since usually the money means that guy is going to get more chances.

    As for the last point, Kolb isn’t going to be traded.

  149. By Darren Urban on Mar 18, 2012 | Reply

    Eazy E —

    RE: Eliminated

    I don’t know for sure. According to ESPN, it sounds like PM told them to move on ahead of the deadline.

  150. By Darren Urban on Mar 18, 2012 | Reply

    Brandon —

    RE: Trade down

    A trade is always possible. It’ll depend on the circumstances on game day.

  151. By Sackman on Mar 18, 2012 | Reply

    It must be St. Pat day. I think Manning is seeing green. The best fit for Manning was Arizona. I think Manning is greedy and is not thinking about where he has a good chance to go to the Superbowl. He has always taken top dollar and he will go where who pays the most. Thank God we are out of the running. We don’t need snobs like him! Go Cards!!!

  152. By Stephn Baldetti on Mar 18, 2012 | Reply

    You let everybody get away in Free Agency. WHY CARDINALS??

  153. By Larry White on Mar 18, 2012 | Reply

    Would’nt it be funny and great if San Francisco loses out on Peyton Maning and loses Alex Smith to Miami. Talk about rock and a hard place.

  154. By Michael on Mar 18, 2012 | Reply

    Darren…. ANY rumors at all on the #2 WR front? Man Niners are loading up!!! First Moss and now Manningham to go along with Crabtree and Vernon Davis!!! Even if they dont get Manning (which I am started to think they will) it is already feeling like we will be battling for 2nd place… Please tell me we are targeting someone!!! Didnt they see last year that we clearly lacked a #2?!!??!

  155. By Darren Urban on Mar 18, 2012 | Reply

    Michael —

    RE: WR

    Nothing new.

  156. By wonderingwhy on Mar 18, 2012 | Reply

    The 49ers sign Moss, Manningham and they are going after PM and could win. While the cardinals get 1 lineman in FA? We are going into the draft with no 2nd round pick because we gave it up for a QB that sat on the bench for over half the season and we paid him 7 million dollars in bonus for doing that. Everybody keeps saying to give him a chance, he had a chance and stubbed his toe and got bumped on the head. I cant minimize a concussion because concussions are serious but it is inevitable that he is going to get bumped on the head again, its football. He will be on the bench by week 4. We have needs at receiver and If I was Larry I would be pissed off that we have not gotten a number 2 to relieve the double team on him every game. His numbers are impressive but imaging what he could do with some help. What the hell is wrong with the cardinals front office? I love the cardinals but cmon man get it together.

  157. By Eric on Mar 18, 2012 | Reply

    Unbelievable. I haven’t seen the Cards front office screw things up this bad in awhile. I’m looking at our scchedule, and all the teams have improved immensely this off season, and most of them were already pretty good. We let Marshal walk, and sign a Vet OG that “we’re not sure he’s a starter”. Along with alienating our QB and fans along the way. I hope for Fitz sake he can be released after this year, because we have done NOTHING to improve. In fact, we’ve actually taken a step back. I will never understand how Graves, as clearly incompetent as he is, has kept his job.

  158. By wonderingwhy on Mar 18, 2012 | Reply

    I guess we have to wait for the steelers to release players so we can sign them.

  159. By Tien on Mar 18, 2012 | Reply

    Darren
    Do is there any other free agents were looking at?

  160. By Cactus jeff on Mar 18, 2012 | Reply

    No peyton manning
    No 2nd round draft pick
    No #2, or #3 WR
    No chance to get best player available in first round (has to be L OT)
    No franchise QB
    No free agent signing
    = No more sellouts!

  161. By The Whiz-inatahaa on Mar 18, 2012 | Reply

    There are tons of ILB on the market right now. Curtis Lofton, Kamerion Wimbley, Larry Grant, Barret Ruud, Stephon Tulloch. Cards need to be looking at these guys. They also need to resign Jay Feely.

  162. By Buck on Mar 18, 2012 | Reply

    cardsalltheway – Why do you consider yourself a Cardinal fan?

  163. By graetschinger on Mar 18, 2012 | Reply

    hei darran,

    what do you think, are mike sims-walker or ted ginn options?

  164. By Dre 1368 on Mar 18, 2012 | Reply

    Eric
    I asked the ? 10 years ago how can you miss handle the cap so bad that your stuck with no cash and less then staler fa. And bring Levi back when he rob the org with his play. I would gotten Winston or gathres from sd. We need speed on the team wr slow. Most of the d slow expect pp and dw. Or need some bigger d line men in the middle cause everyone runs the ball with ease we will need to get some corners cause it’s looking like the div just got a huge upgrade wr wise.

  165. By Ken Cadena on Mar 18, 2012 | Reply

    KK needs to go, The cards need to get a real QB that shows real promise. We are a 500 team at best with are great defense, that finally has showed up.

  166. By LB on Mar 18, 2012 | Reply

    Hello Darren. I know either you or Kent said he likely wouldn’t be back, but with Hadnot being released, what are the chances we see Deuce back yet again? He’s certainly a better player than Snyder, knows the system and no one is likely to offer him much of a contract, so maybe he gets the chance to get his spot back?

  167. By Andy K on Mar 18, 2012 | Reply

    Hey Darren,
    Now that the team cut Rex Hadnot, what other offensive linemen are the cards interested in? Rex Hadnot actually had a decent season as a Cardinals last year so I don’t understand why he was cut from the team.

  168. By DontTakeLoses on Mar 18, 2012 | Reply

    Time to chill. Cards will be fine.

    Meanwhile Seattle signed Flynn today and Smith is in Miami today. 2/3rds chance 49ers get shut out. Just deserts. Manning is home boy, Titans in control now… rumored he will be offered ownership piece after retirement… this is getting interesting.

    I think Cards managed this just right… stil Trust the Whiz, even if they blew it on Marshall.

  169. By Cardfan on Mar 18, 2012 | Reply

    No PM… oh well! Would have been awesome to to see a PM pass to Fitz, but not going to happen get over it! Mcnabb really? Stop typing in. Bidwell sr. was cheap his son spends money just look at fitz’s contract. Kolb needs to everyone to give him a fair chance, last year was screwed up and we were restructuring everywhere! Skelton did great, but let’s see what Kolb does this year. If he blows it I’m right there with all of you. The defense is solid and will only be better with another pass rusher. You know Aron rogers went 6-10 his first year cut Kolb some slack. As far as anyone else running this team better just because you play fantasy football doesn’t make you an expert. There’s a reason Whiz and Graves manage the team and you sit behind a cubicle. it’s easy to judge when it’s not your money! I think it’s really really super you all turn a guy that took us to a super bowl 3 years ago. Has given us winning seasons 3 out of 5 years since he’s been here. You guys are amazing.

  170. By azfancolo on Mar 18, 2012 | Reply

    Cardsalltheway you have to be one of the biggest whiners of all time dude Moss played like garbage his last year he played three teams? Come on bud there is something wrong with cat if three teams in one year dump and to top it off he was mot even starting for the Titans the last team to dump him get over yourself everything you post is negative we get it you are frustrated but dang let it go once a while, I think we all get little frustrated. Shoot someone even posted to trade Kolb for Mcoy!!!

  171. By mark on Mar 18, 2012 | Reply

    Hey Darren, Any Chance’s of Bringing Tim Hightower Back? He’s An Unrestricted Free Agent, So We should Sign Him If Ryan William’s Get’s Injured Again.

  172. By Chris on Mar 18, 2012 | Reply

    Darren,

    I think it is safe to say we are watching Ken Whisenhunt and his entire offensive staffs last season in Arizona. Russ Grimm should have been fired long ago and the terrible offensive line for the past 3-4 years is inexcusable. Warner’s quick release offset it somewhat but we have never developed a dominant running game which is the main thing that Grimm was supposedly brought in for.

    Not drafting an offensive linemen in over two years is laughable.

    Losing out on Peyton basically ensured that Whizenhunt will be fired at the end of this season. There is little logic to support the idea that the Cardinals will out perform their 8-8 season of last year especially since our schedule is more difficult this year.

    Seattle, St. Louis, and San Francisco have all improved their team from a talent stand point while the Cardinals lost one of their best players on defensive and decided to maintain one of the worst offensive lines in the league and stand pat at WR and QB. Add in the fact that we are short a 2nd round pick and next year looks bleak.

    Trading for Kolb was a huge gamble that hasn’t paid off, and there is no reason to believe that Kolb will suddenly turn things around and become a Top 10 QB in order to justify his contract or the fact we gave up a 2nd round pick AND a Pro-bowl CB for him.

    I actually like Whizenhunt…but the handling of the QB, OL, and WR position over the last 3 years lands squarely on his hands.

    Sad Prediction: Whizenhunt and Grimm are fired at the end of a 7-9 season and possibly replaced by Defensive Coordinator Ray Horton after the defensive unit performs at a much higher level than the offense, again.

    I know you will tow the organizations party line…but I think the whole “trust in the system” notion that Whiz still peddles has become a joke.

  173. By Darren Urban on Mar 18, 2012 | Reply

    Graet –

    RE: WRs

    I do not see either. I guess Ginn possible, but he hasn’t shown much as a receiver.

  174. By Darren Urban on Mar 18, 2012 | Reply

    LB –

    RE: Deuce

    They aren’t going to sign Snyder and then say Deuce is better. This staff ran out of patience with Deuce and his weight. People can get mad about it, but that’s the reality and it undercut Deuce’s time here.

  175. By Darren Urban on Mar 18, 2012 | Reply

    Andy K –

    RE: other OL

    Other than Scott and Bell, i dont know who else theyvare looking at, if anyone.

  176. By Darren Urban on Mar 18, 2012 | Reply

    Mark –

    RE: Hightower

    I don’t see Hightower returning.

  177. By Stewart Badly on Mar 18, 2012 | Reply

    Rod Graves and whoever is evaluating free agents need to be fire, last year’s free agents signnings and trades where horrible. the cardinals are the worst team with salary cap room with less than $500,000, we can’t sign anybody, need to cut a player that is making a lot and produces little, we have a DT(Dockett) making a ton of money and now we have to pay a second DT(Cambell) more than what a DT in the 3-4 defense makes. In this defensive system the DT’s are use to free up LB’s and those DT’s can be draffed in the later rounds (David Carter). We have two Safties that make a lot of money, time to draft a young safty so we can cut one of these guy next year. Time to pay more attention to the OL and OLB. Football is simple PROTECT YOUR QB AND PUT PRESSURE ON THEIRS. GO CARDS

  178. By Stewart Badly on Mar 18, 2012 | Reply

    Draff a OT in the first (Raiff or Martin) and if both are gone by the time we pick
    , draff Decastro and we are gonna be fine.

    LT- Martin
    LG- Colledge
    C – Sendlein
    RG- Snyder
    RT- Brown

  179. By Scott H on Mar 18, 2012 | Reply

    The Rams, 49ers ( especially ), and Seahawks have all improved either through player aquisitions or up-grades in the coaching staff. Let’s not forget, the Rams hired Jeff Fisher. The 49ers, who were already far and away the best team in the division, have improved the most so far and that’s WITHOUT possibly signing Peyton Manning.

    Per my last post, I no sooner mention Mario Manningham and right on cue, he joins the 49ers. Life truly holds no surprises when you are a Cardinals fan.

    To sum up FA so far…

    1) We were a total non-player in the Peyton Manning derby
    2) We did nothing while we were a total non-player in the PM derby
    3) We lost Richard Marshall
    4) Chaz Shilens ( this year’s Chansi Stuckey ) visited our parking lot
    5) Every decent WR realistically available is gone
    6) We KNOW we’re out of the PM derby and we’re STILL doing nothing

    That, my friends, pretty much sums it up.

    Pathetic. Absolutely PATHETIC.

  180. By Dominaysean on Mar 18, 2012 | Reply

    ok we are screwed if we don’t go oline hard….seriously. MCneil, Winston, Gallery, at least 1 of them. Every team in our division is go strong in fa except us? We HAVE NOT IMPROVED. Evrery other nfcw team is going all out. We shoould consider trading our 1st rnd pick 2 the pats or browns for there late 1 st and a 2nd. Use the 1st and a great contract on WALLACE!!! and get oline depth in the 2nd rnd. With Wallace and Fitz we would be unstoppable….even with an ok oline….4real

  181. By Sir60 on Mar 18, 2012 | Reply

    I wonder if Dockett would like to be that pass rushing linebacker we need? With Carter, Williams and Campbell on the line, draft a DE in later rounds and we should be in pretty good shape defensively. I still feel Decastro is a better pick than Martin in the first round. Put Brown at RT, Snyder at LT, Decastro at RG and run the ball with Wells and Williams. Nothing slows a pass rush better than a good running game.

  182. By Todd from Safford on Mar 18, 2012 | Reply

    Tonight, as evey night, I kneel down to pray before I go to sleep. As has been the last few nights I include peyton in my prayers. Pray that he signs with the forty whiners so the Arizona defense will have the opportunity to RIP HIS ARROGANT HEAD OFF HIS SHOULDERS! Amen.

  183. By Sarah on Mar 18, 2012 | Reply

    Go Skelton !!! I cannot believe that they are paying Kolb 7 million for a bum season. You want ot invest in the guy on the way up with lots of room to improve and that is Skelton, better arm, record and upside. I really don’t care if it was in the cap etc, 7 million to a guy who sat on the sidelines for most of the season please !!! The real question is why did we blow so much cash on a backup with limited playing time in Philly. Seriously what happens if Skelton beats him out, embarrassment indeed if this comes to fruition.

  184. By Sarah on Mar 18, 2012 | Reply

    I agree with the guy who mentions retirement if he gets another concussion, that is too big a risk to fork out 7 million for. I think it would have been better to put Skelton as the starter with a veteran in his 30’s behind him. I mean look at what the Texans did at season end, brought in Delhomme an Garcia.

  185. By Mark on Mar 18, 2012 | Reply

    at Stewart Badley and everyone regarding the cards offensive line.
    Based on Profootballfocus ratings for whatever they are worth

    Lt Levi Brown 50th rated offensive tackle out of 58.
    LG Daryn Colledge 41th rated Guard out of 55.
    C Lyle Sendlein 21th rated center out of 30.
    RG Adam Snyder 52th rated Guard (Hadnot) rated 49th out of 55. I dont get this signing at all
    RT who knows because the Cards dont have one yet.
    Guard Jake Scott who came in for a visit was rated 9th, go figure the Cards sign the 52th rated guard instead.

    Richard Marshall the Cards Def MVP got about the same money they gave to Snyder. Why?
    If the Cards are really Cap poor how did they think they could afford Manning.
    And if that awnser is to restructure contracts why cant you do it to pick up other free agents that could make the team better like other teams have done.
    Good free agents last season:
    Richard Marshall (of course gone now)
    Jeff King
    Bad free agents or trades:
    Kevin Kolb not worth what Cards gave up
    Daryn Colledge not worth the money
    Chansi Stuckey Laughable
    Stewart Bradley cant beat out journeyman Lenon
    Heap Just always hurt

    They threw money at Snyder how is obe of the worst rated Offensguards

  186. By cardsalltheway on Mar 18, 2012 | Reply

    Stewart Bradley,
    The player(s) to cut is Ryan Williams. He won’t be a factor this season, almost any healthy RB(without prior major surgery and loss of quad muscle) on any team would contribute more. Given his size and running style he has a huge hill to climb to make it back in 2013, let alone 2012. I’d possibly cut Toller as well, cause he’ll barely be able to cover WR’s at his CB position.

  187. By Kevin on Mar 18, 2012 | Reply

    I am just a little confused why we aren’t pursuing any wide receivers like we did Manning. The fact that he visited Arizona and met Whiz means we were prepared to spend $30 million dollars + for him. So we are willing to spend that kind of money to improve other areas on our team right?

    There are arguements to keep or not to of kept Kolb. I think everyone can agree that he is a risk based on his performance last season. Even when Skelton was in, we struggled to put up points until the 4th quarter rallies lol.

    My point is if we are gonna roll the dice with Kolb one more year we should soldify everyone around him in order to help him succeed. We bolstered the offensive line, thats a start. We have many good receivers that are still available and we should pursue them. We also have the draft, althought I’d like to see us go for a S since we have drafted so many wrs lately. We don’t need more youth at the position, we need a solid guy with good experience and talent…not Chansi Stuckey Whiz lol…better.

    We have the money don’t we?

  188. By Soares20 on Mar 19, 2012 | Reply

    Not sure how everyone else feels but man is it frustrating to watch the 49ers pick up talented wide receivers like it’s the easiest thing in the world and the cardinals still can’t find a decent 2nd wide receiver to take the pressure off of Fitz…….

  189. By Flood on Mar 19, 2012 | Reply

    Darren,
    Maybe we could post a link to the CBA and how the salary cap works because some of these fans are clueless!
    They complain about no #2 wideout but don’t complain once when 14 mil of wide receiver money is going to one guy (I’m not complaining, just saying). So to afford the great receivers these fans want as a number 2 they have to understand we just can’t cut unlimited checks! How about this, let’s trade our receiving corp as is (fitzgerald included) to the Niners for the great receiving corp they have now (according to some fans here). Any takers? That’s how the cap works!! You pay in one place, you lose in another. I say we let Early sweat it out a little and then bring him back on the cheap because if he developed consistency, he’d be lethal because we’ve seen a lot of big games out of him. Unfortunately, he has disappeared in some as well.
    Plus, if some fans are going to criticize ownership, spell the name right! I get typos, we all do them, but people actually think it’s Bidwell and don’t give enough respect to someone to actually know there name before you crap on them. Wow, did I ramble on, sorry.
    Darren, quick question, do you still find it funny that the Bidwill’s still get the cheap rap when they were 16 mil OVER the cap heading into March (plus big deals to Fitz and Kurt) and have consistently been near the cap since the opening of UofP Stadium?

  190. By Chach on Mar 19, 2012 | Reply

    Darren,
    I was wondering what you thought about the Cardinals trading down from their 13th pick to somewhere in the late 20’s or even 30’s. In return they would received a 2nd round pick as well as possibly a 3rd or 4th rounder. With the newly acquired late round pick, they would attempt to acquire Mike Wallace from Pitt. They can front load the contract so Pitt can’t match it and give them a late 1st round pick. We now have a legitimate deep threat receiver opposite Fitz as well as a 2nd round pick. I just don’t see anyone at 13 being as valuable as Wallace plus we get a pick in the 2’nd out of it.

  191. By smack28 on Mar 19, 2012 | Reply

    To quote John Madden, “If you have two possible starting QBs on your roster, you don’t have a real starting QB on your roster”. the Cardinals are in trouble. You can fix whatever it is you want to fix (OL, DL, DB, WR, etc), but nothing is going to work if the organization is non-committal to its starter.

    It is time to face some realizations here. The “unique” opportunity to bring in Manning has shown this organization is not committed to either of these QBs. Paying Kolb’s bonus was a huge mistake because now he will be expected to start even if he is out played in the pre-season. Many Skelton supporters will dispute Kolb regardless of success or non-success. Eventually, Whiz will have to make the decision to change QBs throughout the year, and all of us will agree that decision will be based on wins and losses provided Kolb stays healthy.

    This group of decision makers is circling the drain right before our eyes. Regardless of what anyone thinks, the holes will show more this year than any other. What a mess….

  192. By Skelton fans are dumb on Mar 19, 2012 | Reply

    Let’s go through some stats for all you Kolb haters of QB’s starting for the Cardinals.

    10 games started, 2-8 record, 2713 yards, 11 td, 9 int, 23 sacks, 85.8 QBR

    compared to

    9 games started, 3-6 record, 1955 yards, 9td, 8 int, 30 sacks, 81.1 QBR

    compared to

    7 games started, 5-2 record, 1913 yards, 11 td, 14 int, 23 sacks, 68.9 QBR

    Well, let’s reveal who they are, the first one is Kurt Warner in his first season (2005) with the Cards, the second is Kolb, third is Skelton. Everyone that wants to cut Kolb, you are probably the SAME people begging for us to cut Kurt Warner back then. And what did that makes you in hindsight? …an idiot! and guess what you still are? …an idiot! Give a guy a chance to learn an offense before throwing him into a game. Not to mention, Kolb, who had no experience in our offense, led the Cardinals offense to a higher scoring average than Skelton who was in his second year of the same offense.

    Don’t get it twisted, our team won IN SPITE of Skelton, not because of Skelton.

  193. By kkfan on Mar 19, 2012 | Reply

    I read the posts here and on the MB’s of a few teams. I’ve come to the conclusion that there must be an epidemic of “negative ” people that follow this sport. Because the majority of the post are full of complaints and criticism
    of coaches, owners, GM’s and players.

    I understand the want to have a good season. To have enjoyment from it.
    I do believe everyone involved with this team want the same thing, a great season. But you can’t always get the best players. No team has a hof’er at every position. Or even a pro bowler.

    As unfortunate as it has become. Players who have established themselves are going to go where the most money is offered. That’s just the nature of the beast these days. Its true in every professional sport.

    Also, what most fans fail to take into consideration when wanting this player or that player, is that maybe that player doesn’t want to play in certain weather conditions. Such as the extreme humidity in Fla, the hot Az dessert the cold winters in NY. Some players may prefer to play in an open air stadium opposed to a dome one. Or it could be that a player doesn’t fit the system that the team runs. So doesn’t feel he would be a good fit. It’s not always about the F/O not doing enough to get a particular player that a fan thinks they can’t do without.

    The point is it takes two to tango.

    There is still plenty of quality F/A’s remaining that might be able to help this team in the areas that need improving on. There is also the draft . From what I’ve read the Cardinals did a pretty solid job in last years draft. So they can’t be as incompetent as some on here want to make them out to be.

    I read alot on this blog and on the MB about needing a second W/O to take some of the pressure off of Fitz. I don’t know who or how good your tight end position player(s) are, but Kolb used TE Brent Celik when he was in Philly quite abit . So if you have a quality TE he could possibly be that other go to guy to free up Fitz more.

    I have faith that the F/O will put together a solid team. They showed vast improvements last season in their defense. Just by getting a better DC and a couple of very good players in the draft PP for one. Now if they can do the same to sure up the weak areas of the offense then you have the makings of a very solid team with great potential for post season play.

    Remember Rome wasn’t built in a day!

  194. By Larry White on Mar 19, 2012 | Reply

    Some of the complainers have no faith in this coach and his staff nor the owners. They probably think our owners still are cheap. We payrolled out more annually than any other team in the NFL last year. I got that from the NFL network. I’d have to say with everything I’m seeing this team has something in the works. There working on adjusting salaries to free up cap space to bring in talent that will fit into our system. Just my opinion.

  195. By Darren Urban on Mar 19, 2012 | Reply

    Flood –

    RE: being cheap

    I have made that point a few times. It’s an easy fallback for frustrated fans.

  196. By Darren Urban on Mar 19, 2012 | Reply

    Chach –

    RE: Wallace

    They arent going to chase Wallace. As for a trade down, possible, but certainly no lock.

  197. By Woody GA CARD FAN on Mar 19, 2012 | Reply

    I guess alot of you folks forgot that what got us to the SuperBowl. A quarterback who everyone felt was second rate, and they thought he was there just for a pay check. You guys make me sick. I have been a Cards fan since they came to Arizona, and I have heard all the smack talk and people telling me how much they might suck. Yeah well that wasn’t happening the year they almost beat the Squealers! I hope Kolb lights a fire under this teams butt and you “hater fans” can just act like you were a true fan eventhough you didn’t back the leader of this team. I feel bad for Darren becuase he keeps people interested throughout the off season, and he still has to hear this garbage! Darren, thanks for the hard work! This is for Kevin Kolb taking this team and whoopin some tail!
    Go BIG RED!!

  198. By johnnybluenose on Mar 19, 2012 | Reply

    so, manning is off to denver. now all the other teams can move on. too bad smith did not sign with miami yesterday. darren, do you suppose we will see manning in phoenix for a pre-season game?

  199. By clssylssy on Mar 19, 2012 | Reply

    Darren:
    Can you explain where these other teams are getting all this money to throw out these big contracts to Nicks, Johnson,Manning, etc..? I know we were over the cap, other teams were naughty in past years…the Skins,Cowboys,Saints,Raiders and so we get to profit from their sins, but, isn’t that what has been happening with these other teams front loading million dollar contracts? I think players should get paid…I am a player advocate but it seems that the NFL illuminati are constantly talking out of both sides of their mouths. I concede that we, The Cards, are no long cheap…but, we were for many years so I guess that is why people think Cards=cheap. I agree with you that big contracts don’t guarantee success but it’s frustrating to be so close and see other teams (our competition) totally lapping us in the FA. Our guys deserve a level playing field…for Fitz and some of the other potential HOFs, the clock is ticking and they still don’t have the requisite SB ring!

  200. By Mike Ellingboe on Mar 19, 2012 | Reply

    @Soares20,

    I hear your frustation, but if we really pick apart what San Fran has done it isn’t that spectacular. They lost one of their starters (Morgan) and replaced him with a retired WR who most recently had 28 receptions in 2010, and another who was available because he couldn’t get playing time ahead of Nicks and Cruz.

    At best, I’d say it’s a wash for them so far (hopefully they upset Smith to the point where signs elsewhere out of spite).

  201. By Darren Urban on Mar 19, 2012 | Reply

    Johnnyblue –

    RE: PM preseason

    I could see it. The Broncos are a popular preseason matchup for the Cards.

  202. By Darren Urban on Mar 19, 2012 | Reply

    Clssy –

    RE: cap space

    The Cards had a bunch of cap space last year, but spent it on all the free agents last year and the Fitz contract. Other teams did not.

  203. By Eazy E on Mar 19, 2012 | Reply

    How the hell are we in cap trouble even with the signings last year, cut those guys who didn’t produce!

  204. By koe on Mar 19, 2012 | Reply

    amazed at all the hater words. first kolb has had no real opportunity yet, this year is his to go after. Skelton is great, and a lil age/practice/play he is a great addition to the team and maybe the true QB, this season will tell that and the next will solidify it. Offensive line is my only agreement to the haters opinions, it needs to be BETTER! Excited to see more of the Defense, maybe in the top 5 this season.

  205. By David Robles on Mar 19, 2012 | Reply

    I think Kolb will do better with actually having an offseason to prepare.

  206. By Louisville Card on Mar 19, 2012 | Reply

    @cardsalltheway
    I try not not call out people on here but your comment about Ryan Williams and Toler reinforce my idea that you need to find another team to root on…

    People get hurt playing football and if you watched the few plays Williams played in preseason he was a game changer and a great pick. You can’t turn your back on a player that has yet to take a snap after one season that’s idiotic…

  207. By cardsalltheway on Mar 20, 2012 | Reply

    Louisville Card,
    I call it like I see it, for that you ain’t no more a fan than me. Sorry! What I like about this year, or not winning the P. Manning sweepstakes is that Ken W. won’t be able to blame him. This year is all on Ken W. I hope he or fans don’t start making excuses.
    P. Manning never liked the Pittsburgh Steelers, so why would he have ever played under Ken W. and Co.?

  208. By cardsalltheway on Mar 20, 2012 | Reply

    Let’s face it, John Elway knows QB’s MUCH better than Ken W. I wish it weren’t true but I’ve seen enough to know so.

  209. By cardsalltheway on Mar 20, 2012 | Reply

    Buck,
    “Why do you consider yourself a Cardinal fan?”
    Who would you rather I root for? Cardinal fans, gotta love em, chasing away fellow fans. Congrats Buck! I’ve always wanted the Cards to beat the Cowboys even before I moved to AZ and have rooted for the Cards since I left. My father dissed them when I arrived in AZ as he had lived in AZ before I arrived, I tried to persuade him otherwise. Now I know how my father felt when I did so. Buck, I don’t think my father would like you. I don’t have to like everything or everyone(head coach) within the organization. And, I’ve NEVER seen or remember a head coach pull any worse of a stunt as Ken W. has in my life. Does a Cardinal fan have to live is AZ to want them to win, Sheeesh! One of the worst things about football fans is when one thinks or questions whether the other is more of a fan than someone else = YOU

  210. By Jay on Mar 21, 2012 | Reply

    Now that Peyton is going to Denver…… Maybe we should consider Tebow… He has a lot of raw talent that can when honed, be a real asset to the Cardinal organization……. Please Think about TEBOW!

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