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Deuce heads to Seattle

Posted by Darren Urban on April 6, 2012 – 9:31 pm

Stop if you’ve heard this before, but guard Deuce Lutui has left the Cardinals as a free agent. This time, it’s going to stick.

Lutui signed a one-year deal with the Seattle Seahawks, ending his six-year tenure with the Cards, the last couple of which were weighted down with issues about Lutui’s girth. It looked like the lockout last year was going to take care of the end of Lutui in Arizona. Deuce had taken a good offer from the Bengals — but then he didn’t pass his physical because he was overweight. He came back to the Cards needing to lose weight and never could find his way back into the lineup. His lone play on the offensive line all season came, ironically enough, in Cincinnati late in the season.

The crazy way he went and yet was denied in Cincy last year was unique because of the lockout and the speed in which players had to be signed. Lutui agreed to a deal before taking his physical. This year, Lutui already visited Seattle recently. I’m guessing the Seahawks already know what they are getting with Deuce.

The door hadn’t been closed on Lutui in Arizona, but I didn’t see him starting again here. He may not in Seattle, but he reunites with his college coach, Pete Carroll, and the Cards will get a chance to see him again.


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39 Responses to “Deuce heads to Seattle”

  1. By Beau on Apr 6, 2012 | Reply

    Wow, we have musical chairs within the NFC west for right guards!

  2. By AndyStandsUp on Apr 6, 2012 | Reply

    Was it truly the weight, Darren or the “doghouse” effect that killed the beast? Or a combination of both? Maybe the money? Lutui seems to be an enigma.

    And I thought this was a holiday for you.

  3. By Rufus on Apr 6, 2012 | Reply

    Not unexpected, but OL needs must be addressed in the draft.

  4. By Rob01 on Apr 7, 2012 | Reply

    he’s fat so who cares

  5. By Eazy E on Apr 7, 2012 | Reply

    He just couldn’t reach his full potential here, one reason because of the weight.

  6. By morris on Apr 7, 2012 | Reply

    Darren,

    I saw an article that minnesota is interested in trading the no. 3 pick, would you think the cards might be interested in trading with them their first pick and maybe another pick next year, and get matt kalil instead, that would solve their problems on the right or left tackle spot.

  7. By Christo on Apr 7, 2012 | Reply

    Good Lord our OL needs re-vamping. Deuce shouldn’t have been allowed to return last year, we seem to always be a year behind.

    We still are in desperate need of another OT. Surprised McNeill isn’t being considered.

    Hope this opens up the door for DeCastro to be drafted if he is there at 13.

    Darren do you know if the FO pays any attention to the cries of the fan’s draft desires? The same 3 names keep coming up on fan sites, DeCastro, Ingram, and Upshaw. They all fit . .

    Really wondering if they have fluked into taking the Best Player Available the last few years, or if they go with need. Martin isn’t in the conversation is he?

  8. By Darren Urban on Apr 7, 2012 | Reply

    Morris –

    RE: third pick

    Don’t see it happening. To go from 13 to 3 would be prohibitive – especially without a second-round pick.

  9. By Iceman on Apr 7, 2012 | Reply

    Darren,
    because of his second round draft status, don’t you think that Lutui’s departure will be actually beneficial to the Cards in terms of getting a compensatory pick in the 2013 draft? Also, we know that Ryan Williams will be ready, how about Dan Williams? is he keeping his weight in check? the NT position is critical to the Cards success, i hope he gets it

  10. By truths4all on Apr 7, 2012 | Reply

    I understand that Lutui has kept his weight under 350 this off-season which is why Seattle was more than happy to sign him, as there will be OTAs, mini-camps, and on site training/workouts to get him into prime conditioning shape going into training camp. When coming out of the Seahawks camp, it will be interesting to see if Lutui is penciled in as one of the starting guards, especially as the Seahawks look to a 60-40 balance in really pounding the rock and slowly maximizing Flynn’s potential in a quick and fast passing attack. If Lutui excels in Seattle, then the question should be raised here as to why the Cards kept him benched while the starting offensive line play kept deteriorating until December 2011 when it plateaus to a certain degree.

  11. By James on Apr 7, 2012 | Reply

    @Christo,do the fans know more than the front office people know?Why would the front office pay attention to the “cries of the fan’s draft desires”?Are the “fans” scouting players and looking at film on them?Going to players pro days?The NFL combine?Senior Bowls?I think not!I think that fans should stick to what they do best and just be fans and let the professionals (front office) take care of the draft picks.

  12. By Darren Urban on Apr 7, 2012 | Reply

    Iceman –

    RE: comp pick

    We have a long way to go before we figure out if Lutui will translate into a comp pick.

  13. By D on Apr 7, 2012 | Reply

    The draft will come down to a few simple things: M. Ingram, M. Floyd, R. Reiff -if those three are off the board like everyone thinks they will be by 13, then the decision will be what player grades higher:
    D. DeCastro vs J. Martin vs C. Upshaw.

  14. By jonnyb on Apr 7, 2012 | Reply

    Darren
    how is Beanie doing anything happen with his knee is he fully heathy thanks

  15. By Mike Ellingboe on Apr 7, 2012 | Reply

    @truths4all,

    “If Lutui excels in Seattle, then the question should be raised here as to why the Cards kept him benched”

    No it shouldn’t. He was overweight and out of shape, chronically, during his time here. Nothing left to question. If he stays in shape somewhere else all it would tell us is that he finally took being a professional to heart.

  16. By MArk Moreno on Apr 7, 2012 | Reply

    wish him well

  17. By Mike Ellingboe on Apr 7, 2012 | Reply

    @Morris,

    I agree with Darren that Minnesota probably isn’t interested in moving all the way down to #13, but if they were I agree it’s something we should consider. We’d have to give Minnesota our #1 next year to make it worth their while, but an OLine with Kalil, Colledge, Sendlein, Snyder and Brown looks really solid.

    Of course, if I’m Minnesota and see that I’d have to question if next year’s first round pick would be high enough for me to bother. According to the draft chart it needs to be at least #15. With that line I doubt it would be.

  18. By cardsalltheway on Apr 7, 2012 | Reply

    Lutui at starting guard for Seattle would find that he can keep Dan Williams in check. Lutui was like a Cardinal Org. scapegoat waiting in the wings.

  19. By in fitz we trust on Apr 7, 2012 | Reply

    i met duece back in 06 in mesa at a golds gym. he was a cool guy. not really a huge loss, my wife is from seattle and obviously is a seahawks fan. once i told her, she wouldnt stop rubbing it in. too bad she doesnt know hes not a great player lol.

    as for trading up to #3 i would LOVE for us to be agressive and make that move. but look what washington gave up to move to #2, remember last year what the falcons paid to get julio jones. i dont think the cardinals have the balls to make that move. i think the vikings would not have a problem moving to #13 if the deal was sweet enough, the deal would have to include our first round this year, first round next year and out second round next year. i dont think two first rounders will be enough.

    im hoping we take floyd or ingram in the first round. we need some explosive offensive weapons.

  20. By Dennis on Apr 8, 2012 | Reply

    Deuce finally ate his way out of Arizona.
    No loss here.

  21. By Ottis Anderson Fan on Apr 8, 2012 | Reply

    I don’t think if you weigh over 325 pounds you can play for this coaching staff. That would probably eliminate drafting the big tackle from Georgia, Cordy Glenn, who weighs 345 pounds. It seems that tackle choices like Reiff (313 lbs) and Martin (312 lbs) would be better suited for the Cards coaching staff.

    I’m going to puke if I have to read about another Card lineman not being able to play because he weighs closer to 345 than 325. Talk about wasting a roster spot.

  22. By Scott H on Apr 8, 2012 | Reply

    I swear, if he goes to Seattle and suddenly becomes the player we always HOPED he would have been…

  23. By Scott H on Apr 8, 2012 | Reply

    ….fortunately, the odds are in our favor that that WILL NOT happen.

  24. By brad oneill on Apr 8, 2012 | Reply

    this coaching staff completely screwed up, when they made duece second string for all of preseason 2 years ago. They have their rules and don’t tolerate any variance which is understandable but they should have left duece as the starter and let the line gel properly and maybe just maybe our quarterbacks wouldnt have been destroyed.

    Last year Deuce had no excuse to come in heavy and lose out on a great contract with Cincinnati, and he didnt make any. He came in and played his back up role despite being a starter his whole career.

    It’s a shame to see him gone, he was a good player, with amazing potential had he been given the proper support I am confident he would have been a fantastic lineman.

  25. By Sitiveni Young on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    Good for Deuce! And please stop with the out of shape stuff! Over weight? Yes! Does he have talent? YES! I remember Deuce checking into camp two years ago and last year overweight. But what was crazy, is that he dominated the conditioning and physical strength testing! Deuce will start in Seattle and he will show the cards nothing but punishment this upcoming season! You can always use his weight, but that is just flat crazy! If you are talented, weight should never be an option! Russ sold Deuce out and Whizz is only gonna give the cards another disappointing season!!!

  26. By clssylssy on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    I have a feeling that Deuce will do great in Seattle under his old coach Pete Carroll. I wish him well and really don’t get what the big deal is about losing a few pounds. If anybody has ever checked out the Wisconsin Badgers O-line and a good part of their defensive players they average about 300 lbs and trying to stop them is like stepping in front of a train. I liked Letui and thank him for his contributions to the Cards, Wouldn’t wish that weather on my worst enemy and am always a little nervous when our division rivals snap up our FAs.

  27. By cardsalltheway on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    The Cardinals offensive line sounds much like…”Chicago’s pass protection has been a joke for too long.” I wonder what our QB’s(Johnny S., R. Bartel, and K. Kolb) think of our offensive line?

    This is what Cutler thinks of the Bears when asked whether the teams pass protection would improve…”First he laughed. Then: “Hope so.” As if he realized he was being too honest, Cutler quickly added “It’s going to. It will. We’re headed in the right direction. I know that,”
    Does it really take “too long” for things to improve? How long will Cardinal fans have to wait?

  28. By cardsalltheway on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    Darren,
    If available, do you think Ken W./Graves will select Riley Reiff at # 13, or perhaps conjure up something else?

  29. By D on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    One Draft scenario that could play out is if Kalil goes to MN, Floyd goes to Jac, Reiff goes to Buffalo, DeCastro to KC and Coples or Kuechly goes to Seattle, that would leave M. Ingram or J. Martin for AZ….Ingram couldn’t be passed on…would be the OLB the defense needs….

  30. By Soares20 on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    Trade down and then grab Martin. Some people say that if Reiff isn’t available we shouldn’t reach for Martin IMO Martin isn’t a reach. He could have beaten out Reiff for the second tackle in the draft had he not been ill for the combine. A lot of scouts say that Martin will be more pro ready than Reiff anyways. IDK I wouldn’t be too outraged if the Cards grabbed Martin.

    Cards should grab if available(assuming top 10 talent will be gone):
    a. OG DeCastro
    b. WR Floyd
    c. OLB Ingram
    d. Trade down get Martin no one else is worth it at 13

  31. By D on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    I am sure the Cards front office would love to trade down as everyone thinks is easy to do. What player at 13 would a team want to move up for and give away a lower draft pick to AZ if the top talent is gone?
    Bueller…Bueller….

    I doubt AZ would reach for another OT at 13 knowing they still take heat for L. Brown pick…wouldn’t be easy for that tackle…

  32. By drstiegler on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    this loss erks me! we don’t have the depth to lose a player of Lutui’s talent. he might have been a little overweight but he is on the O-line for God’s sake. Didn’t Grimm play with guys known as the Hogs? What gives? Deuce had a nasty streak that goes a long way in the NFL and he was loyal. He wouldn’t let opposing players get away with any extracurricular activity on the field. He knows the system and Grimm. I liked him and think that letting him and Hadnot go is going to come back to bite us. I would love to see DeCastro or Ingram in a Cards uni. Go Redbirds!

  33. By YmmyYames on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    Looking forward to the draft. Should be interesting.

  34. By kkfan on Apr 10, 2012 | Reply

    @ james, good observation. I always laugh when fans think they know more about a player than those who have scouted them their entire football careers. Coaches who study them on film , see them in live work outs. All things that fans don’t get to do up close and personal.

    It was once said by Buddy Ryan ( I think) that “if you (coaches) listen to the fans, then you’ll soon find yourself sitting among them”.

    As for Lutui he may have had a wake up call about keeping his weight under control. Or maybe he like one of the Eagles ex players might need to consider lapsurgery to keep it under control.At any rate, sorry to see him go. And I wish him well with Seahawks, only not when he plays against the Cards.

  35. By clssylssy on Apr 10, 2012 | Reply

    Well stated drstiegler! I think you echo the feelings of other Cards fans. As much talent as our guys have, they are like stick figures trying to stop a tsunami each week. In some cases, size does matter!

  36. By cardsalltheway on Apr 10, 2012 | Reply

    Darren,
    I doubt Ken W. will give much of an explanation as to why Riley Reiff won’t be chosen. So, boring!

  37. By Scott H on Apr 10, 2012 | Reply

    Why are people feeling “irked” by this loss??? Despite his potential, he clealry was not committed to maintaining his weight and physical condition. It’s not like he didn’t have his opportunities here. Heck, he even had ANOTHER opportunity here AFTER getting sent back from the Bengals for failing to pass their physical. That is a very rare occurence in the NFL, therefore, any individual must have to be in pretty bad shape for that to happen to them. I have no ill will toward the guy and if he has either medical or dietary issues that he needs tretament for, then I hope he gets it. But as far as the Cardinals are concerned, they gave him ample opportunity to make it here and HE failed. I truly believe they are best served by moving on and letting him do the same.

  38. By drstiegler on Apr 10, 2012 | Reply

    TO Scott H.
    -Well stated but I do fear for our situation if someone on the O-line gets injured. He would have made a great backup. Hopefully he is able to ‘fix what ales him’ as this is a rare occurrence for a starting caliber player in the NFL. Doesn’t seem that hard to maintain a certain weight when you have all that money and resources at their disposal. What are your thoughts on the draft?

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