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A possibility of Quentin Groves

Posted by Darren Urban on August 16, 2012 – 9:52 am

Starting linebacker O’Brien Schofield missed practice Wednesday with a left knee injury. Yes, that’s the same knee he had reconstructed after an ACL tear coming out of college. But Schofield was working on the side with everyone else, and while I’m not sure he’ll play Friday against the Raiders, it didn’t look like a serious thing.

(Tight end Steve Skelton was also sitting with a back issue, along with LB Paris Lenon (ankle), CB Michael Adams (hamstring), FB Jared Crank (neck) and running back LaRod Stephens-Howling (groin) still out yesterday.)

If Schofield doesn’t go, the depth chart gets shifted for the Raiders. Veteran Clark Haggans would start, presumably. But at some point, you’d figure to see one of the more intriguing names in camp: Quentin Groves. Groves is the former second-round pick who didn’t really make it as a defensive end in this league — he has just two career sacks and is going into his fifth season — but seems to make sense in the Cards’ 3-4 scheme. He flashed against the Saints in the Hall of Fame game as he tries to escape the disappointing years with both the Jaguars and Raiders.

“He had a good workout for us (in the offseason) and we felt like this was a chance for us to check a guy out,” coach Ken Whisenhunt said. “It seemed like a good fit for his physical ability. He’s worked hard at it.”

Sometimes, he’s worked a little too hard (he was asked to take, well, let’s call it a break, at a recent practice after touching the quarterback in some work, which is always a practice no-no.) But the Cards are still in search of backup linebackers and if — and that’s definitely still an if –a former second-round pick can play anywhere near that potential, the Cards could wind up with a hidden gem.

 

 


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14 Responses to “A possibility of Quentin Groves”

  1. By BornACardFan on Aug 16, 2012 | Reply

    Groves was far more superior than the level of talent he’s been up against the last two weeks. I’d love to see how he looks against starters.

  2. By brad oneill on Aug 16, 2012 | Reply

    the theme for this years preseason is Caution! I think the 5 games instead of 4 has the coaches spooked and rightfully so. we dont need another year like last year where we lost our starting corner, 2nd running back, WIlson injured his bicep, and who knows where kolbs concussion problems began.

  3. By cardsalltheway on Aug 16, 2012 | Reply

    “…he(Groves) was asked to take, well, let’s call it a break, at a recent practice after touching the quarterback in some work, which is always a practice no-no.”

    A “no-no,” not with Matt Leinart. I remember when a defender(D. Dockett?) hit M. Leinart at a practice and nobody had to take a break. In fact Ken W. basically excused it by saying something like…”Well, things get kind of rough during practice. It shows how intense things sometimes get.” Chuckle, chuckle, huh huh huh!!!

  4. By BIG RED on Aug 16, 2012 | Reply

    Let’s just hope everything starts falling in the right places

  5. By john the draft guy on Aug 16, 2012 | Reply

    Yes, he is worth looking at.
    Many thought he was a first rounder who dropped to the 2nd. He was clearly out of position as a hand on the ground DE.

    As an OLB, he is athletic enough. I’m looking forward to the game on friday.It really comes down to Brandon Williams or Groves.

    Darren
    Will they try to hide Zack Nash and place him on the PS? or will the get a good look at him? He is back this week, right?

  6. By Mateo on Aug 16, 2012 | Reply

    Darren, do you really think Colt McCoy is the answer?

  7. By Darren Urban on Aug 16, 2012 | Reply

    John the draft guy –

    RE: Nash

    It looked like he might have aggravated the ankle the other day. Hide? No. They don’t even know what they have in him.

  8. By Darren Urban on Aug 16, 2012 | Reply

    Mateo –

    RE: McCoy

    Again, I don’t think I’ve ever said or implied that.

  9. By chad on Aug 16, 2012 | Reply

    Darren:
    I must of missed something and just did a search on Cult McCoy, didn’t get any hits. Did we get McCoy? I have heard about the possibility of Jackson from Seattle. I think at this point,we just need to let Skelton run the team this year and if he doesn’t work out we can look at it next off season. I hope we don’t bring in ether of those guys…

  10. By georgiebird on Aug 16, 2012 | Reply

    Darren,
    The 3-4 puts a premium on big,durable LBs so Groves could be a player. Sorry to hear about Schoefield- he is a main piece. This is why I have told you for a year or two that the 3-4 was a big challenge for the Cards. Cards have been linebacker challenged for 50 years. Guys like E.J Junior or Freddie Joe Nunn may have made the pro-bowl as a token Cardinal for one year. But for the Cardinals to try and string together four good ones with adequate backups- that would be a pipe dream. And this is in the face of 5-7 years when the Cards drafted a LB #1.

  11. By georgiebird on Aug 16, 2012 | Reply

    Darren,
    Speaking of LBs. The 1981 draft was a very telling one in NFL history. In this draft there were three highly regarded LBs – Lawrence Taylor, EJ Junior and Hugh Green. Each guy had pluses and minuses. Taylor -big, fast but a mediocre pgm at NC. Junior- smallish DE from major AL pgm. Green- small but fast from Pitt. As it turned out:
    1st to go; Taylor to Giants- became greatest LB- HOF
    2nd to go ; Junior to Cards- became a near bust
    3rd to go- Green to Tampa- greatest Buc LB- near HOF

  12. By AndyStandsUp on Aug 16, 2012 | Reply

    Probablities on Lenon, Adams and LaRuSH playing tomorrow?
    And is Adams’ spot the most delicate of the three, as far as making team, IYO?

  13. By Darren Urban on Aug 16, 2012 | Reply

    AndyStands –

    RE: Injured guys

    I don’t know where they were today — practice was closed — but based on the week, I wouldn’t expect any of the three to try to play. And yes, of those three, obviously Adams is the biggest roster question.

  14. By Scott H on Aug 17, 2012 | Reply

    brad -

    RE: Five pre-season games

    The possibility of more opportunities to have guys get hurt is one way to look at having an extra pre-season game. However, I am looking at it from the perspective that it should actually be to the Cardinals’ advantage that they have 4 more quarters of live game competition / preparation than everyone else. And after that game against KC, well…I can only say it’s a DAMN good thing we have those 4 more quarters because it looks like we need them.

    No, I don’t want to see any injuries but I also don’t want to see a team that doesn’t look ready to roll come opening week. Injuries are gonna happen, anyway. They can happen just as easily on the first day of training camp as they can in a 5th pre-season game. Ideally, a team with that 5th game WOULD be ready to roll by the end of the 4th game and could use the 5th as a chance to evaluate the guys who are battling for those final 2 or 3 roster spots. That 5th game would be a total luxury, a rare opportunity. But right now, it feels less like a luxury and more like a necessity. Hope to feel differently tomorrow morning!

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