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Torn triceps will cost Levi months

Posted by Darren Urban on August 18, 2012 – 12:39 pm

It turns out T Levi Brown tore his right triceps, coach Ken Whisenhunt said Saturday, and the rehab time is usually three months. Brown isn’t necessarily done for the season but if Brown is put on injured reserve, he is done. Nothing is official, but if Brown doesn’t go on IR, it’d be an upset.

(There is a new possible PUP list that would allow a guy to come back later in the year, and Levi would be a candidate. But it has yet to be passed by the players association so it’s not an option. If passed, a player would have to be out for at least eight weeks.)

In the meantime, The Cards will look at D’Anthony Batiste, D.J. Young and rookie Nate Potter at left tackle the rest of the preseason. Jeremy Bridges is a possibility, but Whiz said the Cards already know what he can do on that side. The team will scan the free agent list too, but there was a reason they wanted Brown back this spring, because they didn’t like who was on the market, and the markets a lot more thin now.


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83 Responses to “Torn triceps will cost Levi months”

  1. By BiRdBrAiN1974 on Aug 18, 2012 | Reply

    Kolb will be really running for his life now from the left side.

  2. By scubasteve12 on Aug 18, 2012 | Reply

    I say throw potter in with the first team at tenesse and just see how it works. then do that with all the others

  3. By D on Aug 18, 2012 | Reply

    Make a trade with Miami-
    E. Doucet for Lydon Murtha OT. He can play both Left and Right, younger than any free agent out there, more experienced than DJ and Batista, could be top backup next year behind Brown and Massie while they wait for a Potter to be ready. J. Bridges doesn’t have much left.

  4. By Tranell on Aug 18, 2012 | Reply

    @Darren when are roster cuts going to be made?

  5. By Mark in Chandler on Aug 18, 2012 | Reply

    Darren,
    Any suggestion that Kelemete might get a crack at LT? He would do a better job than Potter or Young.

  6. By Walter H Richters on Aug 18, 2012 | Reply

    Darren,

    I thought Bridges could play both sides. Move him and give him a chance to shine over there? I know Schneider can handle it but who would we put in at guard? THe kid who played guard in college? oh well, who is out there waiting for a phone call or what asset can we trade a team to a good tackle. (Shhhhhhh. keep it a secret, maybe we can get a great tackle for Kolb?)

  7. By AndyStandsUp on Aug 18, 2012 | Reply

    Any chance Brandon Keith is re-signed and Bridges is moved to LT?

  8. By smack28 on Aug 18, 2012 | Reply

    Can you provide some names of Free Agent Left Tackles? The only person I can think of is McNeill. Is he even available, or is he officially retired? The backup options are not even close to being starting players at that spot considering how weak the starting group already was. This is as serious as it gets in my eyes. Love him or hate him, we could not affod losing Brown.

  9. By chris freeman on Aug 18, 2012 | Reply

    darren –

    What are the possibilities of Cardinals bringing in a Marcus McNiel, or Jeff Otah for evaluation at the T position, both were prominent starterers for theyre team and considered at one time great players at their position. and both are still relatively young.

  10. By smack28 on Aug 18, 2012 | Reply

    Just thought of something. Since Snyder plays all spots on the line, how about moving him to Left Tackle? It should be easier finding a Right Guard, and Snyder hasn’t played well at Right Guard anyway.

  11. By George on Aug 18, 2012 | Reply

    I look at the injury to Levi Brown as an opportunity for one of the young guys to step up. Levi was looking like, well, Levi in the early going of preseason. The one thing consistant about Brown is his inconsistantcy. I will be very curious to see how it shakes out. I am not worried yet.

  12. By Travis McCollum on Aug 18, 2012 | Reply

    Nate Potter time.

  13. By Dynosaur on Aug 18, 2012 | Reply

    Last year we lost Williams in pre-season. Now it’s Levi.

    I don’t care if we lose per-season games, just keep our guys healthy for the games that count.

    Please realize we lost two pre-season games without either of our “best” running backs. I just hope all the Levi naysayers are correct in their assessment that we’ll be better without him. I fear the opposite will be true.

    C’mon Russ, whip our O-line into shape, the test has really begun now. I believe in our coaches and our players. We can do this, injuries or no.

  14. By JT on Aug 18, 2012 | Reply

    I thought it was going to be challenging for the Cards to develop a QB behind their shaky OLine before this happened. Now I’m worried if they can even keep a QB healthy for a few games. Right now I gotta admit it feels like we are destined to head in the same direction of 2010 with 3 quarterbacks all starting games for them at some point in the season. Off to the left of me is SI’s Peter king nodding his head…lol

  15. By NJAzCardsFan on Aug 18, 2012 | Reply

    Darren- Will Massie be thrown in there? Or is he too raw to start yet? How long does it take a Tackle picked up on waivers to learn the new teams system?

  16. By dan on Aug 18, 2012 | Reply

    Bummer, Levi will be missed. Sometimes I give Levi some crap but hey, he plays against the best. Goodluck in your recovery, get healthy.

  17. By DontTakeLoses on Aug 18, 2012 | Reply

    Rut roh… new game plan… run run run… or we risk injuring both QBs…

  18. By scott023 on Aug 18, 2012 | Reply

    This is terrible news about levi, Potter would be the natural chioce being a rookie and everyone tighten up around him. The problem being Grimm, he has been out of touch for years. Therefore potter is out of the question. We would need a vet guard that can step in and was trained by a real ol coach, from any other team would do. We have one of the worst ol in the nfl. The players are fine the trainning is just not there. Way too many sacks last year. Grimm is coach whiz’s friend that counts more than the job. It is never going to change, it is just the way it is period. I sure hope we fine someone.

  19. By Eric on Aug 18, 2012 | Reply

    Can we PLEASE get an OFFENSE Cord? Please? pretty please, since Haley left our offense has just looked downright miserable! I just cant watch anymore man, Ive been a fan since 77 and have just seen this way to many times
    Heartbroken fan,
    Eric

  20. By in fitz we trust on Aug 18, 2012 | Reply

    the karma is kicking in! We all know the story about whiz rarely taking lineman early in the draft. late round and undrafted talent is not going to cut it!!! I do not feel any of the rookies are ready to fill that spot. We need to pull a rabbit out of a hat on this one….

    the hole just got ALOT bigger

  21. By Tim in NJ on Aug 18, 2012 | Reply

    Very sad news about Levi. I for one would like to see Nate Potter win the job. The Cards OL hasnt been that good in over a decade so I would like to see all the rookie draft picks get the experience this year and play. If Cards look outside the organization maybe they bring OT Leonard Davis back.

    Go Cardinals!
    ~Tim in NJ

  22. By Darren Urban on Aug 18, 2012 | Reply

    Tranell —

    RE: Cuts

    Down to 75 after next week, down to 53 after final preseason game.

  23. By Darren Urban on Aug 18, 2012 | Reply

    Mark —

    RE: Kelemete

    They see Senio as a guard, not a tackle.

  24. By Darren Urban on Aug 18, 2012 | Reply

    AndyStands —

    RE: Keith

    Whiz said they’d look at multiple options.

  25. By Darren Urban on Aug 18, 2012 | Reply

    smack28 —

    RE: McNeill

    I believe he is done. I don’t have any other names right now, other than maybe ex-Card Brandon Keith.

  26. By Darren Urban on Aug 18, 2012 | Reply

    Chris Freeman —

    RE: Otah/McNeill

    Otah couldn’t pass a physical before. McNeill I think is done, because of injuries.

  27. By Darren Urban on Aug 18, 2012 | Reply

    samck28 —

    RE: Snyder

    Whiz said he doesn’t foresee moving Snyder.

  28. By Darren Urban on Aug 18, 2012 | Reply

    NJAZ —

    RE: Massie

    I don’t think he’s an option. He hasn’t even been considered a starter for RT yet.

  29. By Havasu Tom on Aug 18, 2012 | Reply

    Darren & Josh,
    Wow, Levi going down puts the cardinals in a bad spot. I hope someone can step up and fill the void. Levi, hang in there you’ll be fine. I’m looking forward to you having a great next season.
    I finally watched the whole game today, Skelton, you looked good in your limited work. Kolb, great first drive, keep looking down field. Your toughness is not in question, your ability to see the field under pressure is what you need to work on. Way to stay in the pocket.
    Darren, can you answer what LT’s are on the market?

  30. By Steward Badly on Aug 18, 2012 | Reply

    Get well soon Levi, people here blames you for not protecting KK, but is the QB who does’t know how to use you like a wall, you looked better the 2nd half of the season last years because of Skelton’s use of the pocket.

  31. By NJAzCardsFan on Aug 18, 2012 | Reply

    Darren- Any chance Powell (RB) makes the team this year???

  32. By Mark on Aug 18, 2012 | Reply

    Could the cardinals please sign free agent guard Jake Scott. According to Profootballfocus he was the 7th best rated guard last year. Darren Colledge was rated 41 and Adam Snyder was rated freaking third from last at 76. I know Profootballfocus is not the tell all on how good a player is but their calculations on grading players seem sound. Now i have watched Snyder so far this year and he looks horrible. Levi and Bridges have also have been less than stellar. I cant imagine if DJ Young or Batiste is considered as a starting Left tackle. DJ Young got beat bad on the strip sack on Lindey for a touchdown. Having a solid interior line might make up a little for weak tackles.

  33. By john the draft guy on Aug 18, 2012 | Reply

    Left tackles, like QBs and pass rushers, are not sitting home waiting for calls. This is a real problem.

    I’ll point at the pick of Micheal Floyd. I still cant wrap my head around that pick. If you felt you didnt want to trade up to get Tannehill, then trade down for a Tackle.

    We did neither and now we dont have a QB or Left Tackle. Meanwhile, Mike Adams (my pick) is starting for Pitt and Tannehill is starting in Miami and we have a blocking wr.

    Graves gets credit for Bethel and David Carter, Grabbing 1st round talent like Ryan Williams and Washington in the second. But man did he miss this year with our 1.

    I see something in Potter in pass blocking and he is the guy I would get ready to take on this challenge. Tough loss.

  34. By Kevin S on Aug 18, 2012 | Reply

    Oh, the irony… Cards fans rip into Levi for his poor play for years, and now he gets hurt and of course because we have no decent alternative, now we’re all concerned.

  35. By cardsalltheway on Aug 18, 2012 | Reply

    Physically speaking Massie or Potter would best fit the gig but neither of them are even being mentioned to play LT. During troubled times players learn new positions. When the Steelers Mike Webster retired Dermontti Dawson stepped up and volunteered for the position despite NEVER playing it before. He was a Guard for 5 years before that, now he’s in the HOF(2012) for playing Center.

    It would require extra hard work but R. Grimm should be able to coach up either Massie or Potter for the LT position. That’s what good coaches do, it’s sad that he presumably can’t or won’t.

    scubasteve12 ,
    “I say throw Potter in with the first team vs. Titans and just see how it works.”

    I like that idea and most head coaches would consider it. But, if that decision was made it would mean Ken W. is going against his written rookie rule which he applies whenever he does or doesn’t want to.

    Eric,
    “Can we PLEASE get an OFFENSE Cord?”

    Ken W. is offensive minded and once played TE with a few catches and TD’s(count on 1 hand) during his 7 year illustrious career, isn’t that good enough? Also, the type of O.C. we need would upstage Ken W. and the powers that be ain’t gonna let that happen. Haley would’ve outshined Ken W. Top/down changes are needed.

    Darren,
    “Whiz said he doesn’t foresee moving Snyder.”

    That’s probably because he couldn’t ever do half the job Levi Brown did(which ain’t saying much). Resume building only sounds good in fantasy land.

    smack28,
    “Since Snyder plays all spots on the line, how about moving him to Left Tackle?”

    Because he couldn’t do the job well enough.

    NJAzCardsFan,
    “How long does it take a Tackle picked up on waivers to learn the new teams system?”

    On our team? A long time, must follow along, no changes are made, must not break system, no exceptions made, playbook won’t change, copy that, copy, copy, copy.

  36. By Cactus jeff on Aug 18, 2012 | Reply

    With this injury the Cardinals need to reassess their offseason strategy. This mantra of building with the draft is getting old. All teams get 7 picks, they all build with the draft. But you have to go spend some money on free agents too. It is always an either or game. Either we get a WR or an OL. Here is an idea, get Vincent Jackson and get the 2nd best OT in the draft. The patriots reload every year. Moss then Chad Johnson and now Brandon Lloyd. Why can’t the cards do the same?

  37. By Darren Urban on Aug 18, 2012 | Reply

    NJAz –

    RE: Powell

    It’s going to be tough. Practice squad maybe?

  38. By dan on Aug 18, 2012 | Reply

    Kolb is worthless, good job Whiz. I think its safe to say that Whiz job of QB talent is not his greatest strength however we all know the QB position is the most important. Well, he did draft Skelton so he could put that QB stigma to rest if Skelton can do the job. I know the majority has much more trust in Skelton than Kolb. At least we got Skelton dirt cheap.

  39. By Born n Bred on Aug 18, 2012 | Reply

    Hope Mike Floyd can play tackle

  40. By Ezz on Aug 19, 2012 | Reply

    john the draft guy –

    Proclaiming someone a bust after 3 preseason games has surely got to be a world record doesn’t it?

  41. By Luke on Aug 19, 2012 | Reply

    Darren,

    I’m surprised that Donovan McNabb hasn’t been thrown up as a possible replacement. You know he has a house in AZ?! Love your work.

  42. By AndyStandsUp on Aug 19, 2012 | Reply

    Just a query to your “Cut” response above, Darren.
    ESPN and a few other sites have the cutline at 80, while you and NFL.com have it at 75. Have you ever steered us wrong?
    I realize that eighty was the number last year because of the truncated off season.

  43. By Gary on Aug 19, 2012 | Reply

    If Chad Clifton is still out there he would be my pick to put in at LT. He and Colledge worked together in Greenbay so they could jump right in with each other pretty quickly. The good thing is that the quarterback competition is over. It’s Skelton as the winner. There is nobody on the planet that would start Kolb over Skelton now after watching the Oakland game. They can say that no decision has been made yet, but that is just a polite lie.

  44. By D on Aug 19, 2012 | Reply

    This preseason should be a dose of Reality to all Card Fans. Look around the NFC and the good teams that AZ is not close to. SF, NY, Chicago, Detroit, AtL and the Saints. All have young or solid QB’s and OLine. Most have QB’s they drafted in the first round and developed. AZ needs to do the same. Our Defense and Special teams will be good for some time, and we have solid WR’s and a promising RB. But, in order to make AZ one of the NFC elite for several years, AZ needs to upgrade the QB and Oline. I hate to start thinking about next year’s draft, but our band aide players are not the long term answer.

    Start fresh in this upcoming draft to give all Card’s fans hope and a since of a plan.
    Round 1-Logan Thomas-QB VT. Good size, strong arm and can run.
    Round 2-Oday Aboushi-LT. VA. Can compete next year with Brown but a true LT.
    Round 3-Rex Burkhead RB NE. Power back that would compliment Willaims. (I don’t see AZ keeping Beanie who would be going into his final contract year.)
    Round 4-Braden Hansen G BYU, Left G to replace Snyder in a year.
    Round 5-Sheldon Richardson DE. MO. Future replacement in a few years to Dockett.

  45. By suspence716 on Aug 19, 2012 | Reply

    When Kolb came off after his last series he came up to Whiz and asked him something and whiz pulled his headset off his ear n barked back at kolb “NO!” n shook his head. I was suprised nobody else brought this up. I bet Kolb asked him “can I have another series coach?”

  46. By awesomest wilson on Aug 19, 2012 | Reply

    A regime failure has never been so obvious.no talent no depth no schemes.they had 9 games last year that temple or syracuse would have won the same 7.I just want to hear the problems addressed and a plan going forward.that happens only at the press conference of the new coach.we have a rb and a corner that need a real situation to become great.whiz doesn have a eye for talent or even verbal ability to motivate.name one young guy who put two good years together under this regime?

  47. By Chuck 1 on Aug 19, 2012 | Reply

    Based on his past performance, I’m going to go WAY out on a limb and predict Graves’ 2013 draft selections and FA signings.

    #1: DL
    #2: CB
    #3: WR
    #4: FB
    #5: RB
    #6: TE
    #7: QB

    Notice a pattern here???

    FA signings: LB, Strong safety, Free safety, OG (Must at lest be one Steeler or AFC Central player in the group)

    Another pattern???

  48. By smack28 on Aug 19, 2012 | Reply

    I like the idea of trading. Although we did get burned on our last trade – DRC for Kolb. Trading usually means you are taking someone else’s problems. If this group is considering even moving someone, who would it be? Greg Toler or AJ Jefferson? Those guys are only worthy of a 6th or 7th rd quality pick at best. I think they should take a flyer on Otah. Even if he cannot pass a physical, take him and get what you can out of him. If he plays four or five games before his injuries act up, you have bought some time to better prepare Potter or Young. It’s funny, I said it over and over leading up to the draft – Draft OL,not the WR. Now, we have a WR that needs one or two years to develop and no true safety net on an already miserable line.

    I know most everyone loves Whiz, but when is it time to start questioning his history of bad decisions? Think back and take a look at this team’s ongoing issues. Bad signings in the secondary, busts on 2nd and 3rd round draft picks, ongoing poor QB play, weak play at OLB until last year, and no OL to speak of since his arrival.

  49. By BIG RED on Aug 19, 2012 | Reply

    I heard kolb is on a flight home with all the money he made for just wearing a Pro football uniform. To bad it was a Cardinal uniform.

  50. By Richard S. on Aug 19, 2012 | Reply

    How about making a deal with Philadelphia for their backup left tackle, King Dunlap, say sending the Eagles Patrick Peterson and next years 2nd round draft pick in return.

  51. By john the draft guy on Aug 19, 2012 | Reply

    Ezz,
    Who is declaring anyone a bust? My comments have nothing to do with Floyd. I think he is having trouble getting off the press and getting separation, and so far, all I have seen him do is block. But I believe he will come around.

    What I was saying is we didnt need to take a first round wr when we needed a Tackle, OLB, and QB.

    We now enter the 4th preseason with no left tackle, a huge question mark at QB, and a wr who is the 4th wr and really wasnt needed.

    Its a mistake good teams dont make.

  52. By brad oneill on Aug 19, 2012 | Reply

    mcnabb would be a great left tackle I mean what if he just dropped back like he was qb and while they were tackling him kolb could run to his right and throw the ball safely out of bounds.

  53. By louis on Aug 19, 2012 | Reply

    like i said the cardinals are going to suck this year again. tell they get a gm . a good decent coach who know’s how to coach a football team .P.S.fire ken wisenhunt russ grimm.

  54. By Dennis on Aug 19, 2012 | Reply

    Cards must fix the left side of the line in a hurry or this will be a long and maybe unhealthy season.
    Powell could/should make it. Put him on special teams, dump AJ Jefferson.
    Can’t take the chance and hope for the practice squad.
    Don’t see Bartel making the team ahead of Lindley.
    Cuts will be interesting.

  55. By azcards65 on Aug 19, 2012 | Reply

    Wow Luke why hasn’t anyone ever thought of that your a genius

  56. By Darren Urban on Aug 19, 2012 | Reply

    AndyStands —

    RE: Cuts

    Teams must be down to 75 by next Monday.

  57. By William Barry on Aug 19, 2012 | Reply

    Yes, lets see Nate Potter in place of Levi….He got fairly good reviews in pro football draft guide.

  58. By D on Aug 19, 2012 | Reply

    Your right John the Draft Guy-
    I don’t know if the front office feels pressure from Larry F to win now after Kurt’s retirement, but D. Anderson, M. Hall and K. Kolb are not the solution, but added to the problem. I guess we can all blame Peyton Manning for turning us down, but these recent cast off QB’s are not the answer. Draft a QB in round 1 and a OT in round 2 next year and another G to fill some needs/holes.
    The defense will be good now since Bradley has figured out the 3-4 and Groves appears to be good rotation with OBrien at OLB. They have good depth in the secondary, and with Bethel and Peterson, great Special teams.

    Time to fix the QB and Oline next year by the draft and quit trying to fill holes with free agency, it rarely works with needs as important as AZ has….

  59. By Chuck 1 on Aug 19, 2012 | Reply

    Sigmund Freud,

    HELP!!!!

    There are more people calling for Whiz’s and Grimm’s scalps and the Cards have only played three meaningless Preseason games.
    .
    Surely, you can help all of those misguided souls.

  60. By Mike Ellingboe on Aug 19, 2012 | Reply

    @John the Draft Guy,

    I agree that Floyd wouldn’t have been my first round pick either, but let’s not completely revise history here. Adams and Tannehill aren’t starters yet, and have been very up and down this preseason. Resigning Levi at LT was most viable option we had at that position, and his previous history with injuries made him the least likely candidate for this to happen to. We didn’t have anything to trade up in the draft with, not that it would have been smart to reach for a QB that early, as history has so often proved. Trading down to get an unmotivated lineman probably wouldn’t have solved much either.

  61. By Scott H on Aug 19, 2012 | Reply

    AndyStandsUp

    Ya know, if a team called right now and offered a good O-lineman for Kolb, I don’t know if I would even wait for them to finish the sentence. The anaswer is Hell, yes! I would even offer to pay for plane tickets for both players. I like Kolb and I don’t mean to be so down on him. I just see a black cloud hanging over this guy and I want the cloud to go away.

  62. By Mike Ellingboe on Aug 19, 2012 | Reply

    @cardsalltheway,

    “When the Steelers Mike Webster retired Dermontti Dawson stepped up and volunteered for the position despite NEVER playing it before. He was a Guard for 5 years before that, now he’s in the HOF(2012) for playing Center.”

    Where do you get this crap from? Dawson did play G at Kentucky, but was drafted by the Steelers to be Webster’s replacement – which occurred in his second year with the team, not five years after.

    scubasteve12 ,
    “I say throw Potter in with the first team vs. Titans and just see how it works.”

    “I like that idea and most head coaches would consider it. But, if that decision was made it would mean Ken W. is going against his written rookie rule which he applies whenever he does or doesn’t want to.”

    I’m pretty sure I read that Potter, along with Young and Batiste will be looked at to play LT going forward, but nobody just throws a 7th round rookie in at LT to see how it will work. I could just hear what you’d have to say after that puts our QB’s on IR. Please direct me to where he has a written rule about not starting rookies.

  63. By cardsalltheway on Aug 19, 2012 | Reply

    D,
    “I don’t see AZ keeping Beanie who would be going into his final contract year.”

    Beanie had off-season surgery just like Adrian Peterson(ACL). Now let me get this right, A. D. had a much more serious injury and they both might play this week? If we only knew what exactly was wrong with Beanie’s knee?

  64. By NJAzCardsFan on Aug 19, 2012 | Reply

    Is just me or does the Cards offense and even the defense seem to play better when Skelton is at QB rather then Kolb? Just not this year during the pre-season games but last year also???

  65. By Mike Ellingboe on Aug 19, 2012 | Reply

    @awesomest wilson,

    name one young guy who put two good years together under this regime?

    Not sure how you’re defining “young” but how about Daryl Washington, LSH, Calais, & Sendlein? Probably a safe bet that Peterson will, as well as Sherman. No reason to think Toler wouldn’t have, had he stayed healthy.I’d say Roberts could be included as well, and Breaston (when he was here) was another guy who falls into that category. Why don’t we look at the improvement made by guys like Warner, Dockett and Fitzgerald after his arrival? Or our overall record and playoff appearances before/after?

  66. By BIG RED on Aug 19, 2012 | Reply

    Man, all you idiots seem to be the owners of the team, don’t worry so much. We’ll be fine with Skelton at QB. You should worry about paying #4 all that money for nothing.

  67. By Chuck 1 on Aug 19, 2012 | Reply

    What did I hear at the beginning on Sunday Night Football?

    “The Steelers’ first two picks in the 2012 draft were Offensive Linemen.”

    HELLO, GRAVES, KEIM AND WHIZ!!! IS ANYONE HOME???

  68. By awesomest wilson on Aug 19, 2012 | Reply

    We had no money but the best move would have been fa guard from saints wrfirst round ot third or vice versa but you’d have a more solid line less skittish kolb little more accurate skeleton,they also failed when they introducted a failed number two rec to manning during the visit screaming to manning we have no money or talent.every move fails. Levi went to one knee but whiz is face first at this point. Imagine kolb playing all 16.no so the new coach needs a qb and we go from there.

  69. By Red cards on Aug 19, 2012 | Reply

    The way I see this qb deal is John is are closer yeah last year are d kept us in the game but John would wrap um up

  70. By Scott H on Aug 19, 2012 | Reply

    Chuck 1

    C’mon, man….since the day Kurt Warner left town, the QB situation has been handled very poorly ( is yet to be resolved ) and the O-line continues to be a major weakness. Well, Whiz is responsible for one and Grimm is responsible for the other. Are you going to argue either of those statements??? If yes, good luck. If not, then why are you criticizing fans for finding fault with these individuals? Sometimes, fans believe in accountability and are not just blind followers.

  71. By john the draft guy on Aug 19, 2012 | Reply

    Mike Ellingboe;

    Rookies having an up and down preseason? who would have guessed. Both have very good chances to start.

    First moving down;

    Yes, Levi would have started at LT and Adams at RT. Adams would move over after the injury.
    Could you imagine starting Adams and Massie at tackles in 2013 and drafting a QB in round 1 .

    As for moving up;

    What did it take for Dallas to hop up to #6 from 14? We could have easily made that jump to get Tannehill. 13 and next years one could pay off. Play Skelton and give Tannehill a year to learn.Cutting Kolb could have freed up some money for a tackle like Bell.

    Either move , which I posted many, many times during the draft would have been better than another wr and entering another year with shaky QBs and no LT.

  72. By Chuck 1 on Aug 19, 2012 | Reply

    Scott H,

    I realize that it’s impossible to see my tongue in my cheek when I write ” Surely, you can help all of those misguided souls.”

    Let me try to state it simply and unambiguously..

    Graves (and Keim) have not drafted or signed FA quality OLinemen for several years. They (with advice/guidance from Whiz?) are solely responsible for the sorry state of the Cards’ offensive line ineffectiveness. That will cause the Cards’ offense to experience significant problems this season, leading to a mediocre, at best, record.

    Please note my earlier post (also with tongue in cheek) that predicted which positions that Graves would draft and sigh in 2013 i.e. NO OFFENSIVE LINEMEN.

  73. By Brian on Aug 19, 2012 | Reply

    Big Red, if you came to this board and didn’t regurgitate the same thing over and over about Skelton then you MIGHT be in a position to call people idiots . Until then just know that you sound just like the rest of the “owners” you are calling idiots and all I can do is equate your obsession with Skelton to the obsession SkipBayless has with Tim Tebow.

  74. By Eazy E on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    Levi being out is a sizable loss because our O-Line isn’t great right now, but at the same time, it could be a blessing in disguise for us. Levi isn’t great anyway let’s be real. I forgot about McNeill being a FA. If he is healthy, sign him tomorrow. Easily the best on the market.

  75. By Eazy E on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    I’m definitely not happy that he is injured and hope he comes back healthy, would never wish or hope that on anyone, but don’t act like dude is Joe Thomas or Jake Long. Barely anybody on here like Levi as our starting LT and for good reason, RT maybe, but not LT.

  76. By Brad on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    My opinion is that if you replace Levi with a cardboard cutout you’d slow defenders down more, yes our Offensive line is not performing well but I don’t believe losing Levi will drop the performance further, if anything it’s a good thing, rather then wasting a year of an under-achiever in LT we can give some vital experience to a player with potential…with how much they’ve been slagged off hopefully they’ll stand-up and make a point come week 1, will have to wait and see…my opinion, no need to whine about it if you don’t agree…

  77. By Sir60 on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    Lamenting what could have been does not help. We need to look forward and “count our blessings” such as a very good defense and special teams unit.

    Skeltons win/loss record is excellent. We have guys who would love to be a starter at left tackle and will work hard to win it.

    I’m sure our offensive scheme will take into account our weaknesses, so lets just win.

  78. By card62 on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    We have 2 more preseason games and we are already looking forward to free agency and the draft next year, and last year our season was over around week 6 and the year before it was over in the preseason when we cut Leinart and went with Derek Anderson. I know Rome was not built in a day, but most of us simple minded fans who do not know how the complicated NFL works have said for years now we need an improved OL, better QB, offensive coordinator, improved pass rush and a true # 2 receiver. OL has always been at the top of my wish list and an offensive coordinator.

    My opinion is that our front office is not getting it done. Graves must go and maybe Mike B. also.

    I will always root for our Cardinals and hope that I am wrong about 2012, but unfortunately I was right about 2010 and 2011. Just like several of you I am already thinking about free agency and the 2013 draft, and dare I dream a management shake up and Russ Grimm being shown the door.

    Go Cards!

  79. By Chuck 1 on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    As much as many of us believe that Graves has failed and should be shown the door, I think that we all know that it “ain’t gonna happen”.

  80. By chad on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    DeCastro is playing solid wish we would of drafted him over Floyd.

  81. By chad on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    Jack Long LT from Miami is a free agent next off season.

  82. By chad on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    So IF, “IF”, we cut Levi Brown and maybe even Keven Kolb. Wouldn’t it be smart to re-structure a couple of our higher long term contracts? Bringing us to the top of the cap. So next year we have room to bring in a proven free agent. Or do you think that Graves would just pay the minimum? Probably hard for you to answer this; what if question, but thanks for trying…

  83. By Scott H on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    Chuck 1

    OK, my bad. And my apologies. I’m sure I’ve read your previous posts but it’s impossible to remenber what everyone says over time. Agreed that sooner or later, someone has to be held responsible for the on-going lack of improvement on the O-line. Grimm seems most likely to take the fall, but…he can only work with what the team gives him.

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