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Levi to IR and moves to get to 75 on roster

Posted by Darren Urban on August 24, 2012 – 3:56 pm

The Cardinals have trimmed their roster to the requisite 75 by cutting 12 players today, in addition to waiving injured fullback Jared Crank (neck) and running back Thomas Clayton (knee) and putting on injured reserve tackle Levi Brown, which officially ends Brown’s season. The Cards had until Monday to make the moves. The cut to 53 players must come a week from today, the day after the Cards close out the preseason with a game against Denver.

The 12 released were:

– DE Landon Cohen

– WR Gino Crump

– S Eddie Elder

– WR Tre Gray

– CB Marshay Green

– WR Jaymar Johnson

– FB Reagan Maui’a

– LB Marcus McGraw

– LB Zack Nash

– CB James Nixon

– K/P Ricky Schmitt

– LB Paul Vassallo

On a side note, defensive tackle Ricky Lumpkin was fined by the NFL $21,000 for hitting a defenseless player in the head/neck area, in this case, Raiders quarterback Matt Leinart. It’s a hefty sum for a guy who has yet to collect anything more than a practice squad paycheck in the league. (Kicker and NFLPA player rep Jay Feely informs us the fine is not collected unless Lumpkin makes a roster.)


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83 Responses to “Levi to IR and moves to get to 75 on roster”

  1. By Chris B on Aug 24, 2012 | Reply

    I hope Reagan lands and sticks somewhere.

  2. By Edjikstra on Aug 24, 2012 | Reply

    Darren, could you explain the significance of waiving the two players as opposed to cutting them? Does it mean the Cardinals have an interest in retaining them if they pass waivers?

    Thanks.

  3. By Brian on Aug 24, 2012 | Reply

    First cuts mean Cards can start building the practice squad if players clear waivers? Would like to see Nash on our PS this season. Thought he was showing some promise before getting hurt earlier. Plus had a nice strip on the kickoff coverage last night.

  4. By Darren Urban on Aug 24, 2012 | Reply

    Edjikstra –

    RE: Waive/cut

    It’s the same thing. Waiving injured just means the team must come to an injury settlement with the player because players cannot be cut when injured.

  5. By Darren Urban on Aug 24, 2012 | Reply

    Brian –

    RE: Practice squad

    You can’t put together the practice squad until after final cuts.

  6. By LadyCard04 on Aug 24, 2012 | Reply

    None of the cuts/waivers/releases are a surprise. Maui’a has been there for us whenever we are in a pinch but just doesn’t see to have enough to make the squad. Wish the best for all the players to find someplace to play football. Next week’s cuts will be a much harder decision for all involved.

  7. By johnnybluenose on Aug 24, 2012 | Reply

    yes, lumpkin’s fine is surely significant but that was a pretty vicious hit. you can’t do that now without being punished. it’s time maui’a got a real job, don’t you think? he’s been cut eight times now and he knew coming in that he would soon be on his way out. why bother? and kolb says he really hasn’t thought about the competition between himself and skelton. hard to believe him but if that is the truth then maybe he should give it a thought now and then. two weeks before we play for real. let’s get going guys.

  8. By scubasteve12 on Aug 24, 2012 | Reply

    sad fans cant give credit to kolb when he deserves it. 17 for 22. people hate him so much nothing he does will ever matter.

  9. By scubasteve12 on Aug 24, 2012 | Reply

    as for people saying the competition isn’t fair. skelton was taken out because he couldnt do anything. even with a good line he wouldnt of done anything. kolb on the other hand drove the team down the field. also he has thrown the ball to fitz more.

  10. By CodyZarr on Aug 24, 2012 | Reply

    Darren,

    Out of curiosity when guys get brought in for short times like Mr. Maui’a are they paid anything at all or is it all basically a tryout until the 53?

  11. By Darren Urban on Aug 24, 2012 | Reply

    CodyZarr –

    RE: Preseason

    In the preseason I believe players get about $400 a week.

  12. By Videoal on Aug 24, 2012 | Reply

    Levi Brown should be replaced permanently. He is too fat and slow and a quarterback’s nightmare.

  13. By louis on Aug 24, 2012 | Reply

    like i said the cardinals are going to stay home again and be 5 and 11 until they find a good coach and a quarterback with an offense line coach.P.S.fire the whole coaching staff and G.M.

  14. By Tommy on Aug 24, 2012 | Reply

    I’m upset to see Regan Mauia. He has heart, he shows up every year and hes there. I wish they kept him, or are at least giving him practice squad.

  15. By AndyStandsUp on Aug 24, 2012 | Reply

    Next week is the “hard” cuts, getting down to the 53 and practice squad.
    Would you be terribly surprised Darren, if the list included any of the following:
    Rich Bartel
    Micheal Adams
    Nick Eason
    Quan Sturdivant
    Todd Heap
    Adrian Wilson?

  16. By rdixon50 on Aug 24, 2012 | Reply

    Darren, please comment on this post if you can.

    This comment is only regarding the O line. We know the strategy the Cards have used since Levi was taken in the 1st round. I realized the reason last night – Graves and Whiz have believed / been guaranteed that Grimm would always provide a decent O line because of his perceived skill at developing O linemen. We could bring in retreads or 5th-7th round draft picls and Grimm would get them readyto be sufficient, so that we could get offensive and defensive skill playes with our draft picks.

    Warner helped solidify that thinking because of his exceptional skills. Since Kurt retired, it has become obvious that process isn’t working / will not work. The only answer is to change the strategy and use the early rounds of the draft to get good O line players.

    I think it’s probably too late to save Whiz’ regime. The O line draft strategy has predicted problems, but Kolb will be the nail in the coffin.

    I hope I’m wrong – I like Whiz and think he’s done a good job here, but it’s time to change the O line strategy. But the results won’t be visible for two-three years. That may be during the next coach’s tenure.

  17. By Chuck 1 on Aug 24, 2012 | Reply

    C’mon people!!!

    Those fans who are saying that the Cards will win the NFC West and play in the Super Bowl in 2012/2013 are smokin’ dope!!!

    How in the world will they do that with the following problems?
    #1: A porous OL (one of the worst, if not THE WORST, in the NFL)..
    #2: Below average QBs
    #3; Unimaginative offensive playcalling i.e. Miller (with Whiz throwing in his two cents worth occasionally).
    #4: Questionable defensive secondary play.
    #5: etc. etc.

    IMHO, the regular season record will be no better than 8-8 and more likely 7-9 or 6-10.

    Oh, and to further throw cold water on those fans who believe that things will be better in the 2013 season, remember that Graves, Keim and Whiz draft the “BEST PLAYER AVAILABLE”. So far, that has NOT included Offensive Linemen!!!

  18. By Red cards on Aug 24, 2012 | Reply

    umm scuba you must have been one the kid to buy a kolb jersey haha jk

  19. By alexmannsportskings on Aug 24, 2012 | Reply

    Darren… I have a favor to ask of you…
    Could you please… please… please… please… Tell Coach Whiz that Kolb excelled in the Up Tempo, No Huddle Offense? That’s the kind of Offense that Kolb can play well in! In order for us to be successful this season we need Kolb in that type Offensive System. We need to adjust our scheme to fit his skill set, that’s why Leinart didn’t work for us, Hall didn’t work for us, (and shoot me for saying this DA too). When those 3 guys did that offense they all played well, well DA to a certain extent.
    Darren, I will love you forever if you do this!

  20. By Mr Robles on Aug 24, 2012 | Reply

    Do you think Powell will make the team? He has fitz very excited haha

  21. By Azfan4life on Aug 24, 2012 | Reply

    Kolb only ran the team down field cause the titans were playing prevent defense… And his two picks come on…..he just can’t step up,and take control and when we think he is doing good he does something stupid

  22. By in fitz we trust on Aug 25, 2012 | Reply

    wow!!! about 400$ a week for a preseason roster spot? man, that sucks. Imagine yourself leaving practice with your 400$ check, u go to taco bell in your 99 honda, while fitz and gang have 500$ plate steak dinners…

    i think we need to do a better job identifying offensive line talent…. i wonder who is in charge of that? it seems like every line man we draft, flat out sucks. every other position, we have promising talent with great upside. its time some ones head is brought to the chopping block.

    lets trade beanie wells for a LT!!!!!!! or even a solid G

  23. By Eazy E on Aug 25, 2012 | Reply

    Lumpkin layed Leinart out! He should make the roster for that hit.

  24. By bigredcards on Aug 25, 2012 | Reply

    Darren- okay so when i get on this website and try to go to the blog section of azcardinals.com sometimes not all the time this will happen
    http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o51/ddbunch/Capture-2.png
    it make it hard to read the blog. i dont know if it is just my computer or something wrong with the website but if you could try and fix it if it is a website problem that would be great

  25. By Scott Warren on Aug 25, 2012 | Reply

    The fact that neither of the QBs have ran away with the job yet troubles me. I realize that there have been other issues (o-line, WR dropping solid passes etc) but each guy has had their fair share of chances to take the job and run away with it and I just don’t see the consistency from either guy. I hope I am wrong but it is foreshadowing the type of offensive season to be expected this year. And I am sorry but Two picks to one touchdown is not something to be positive about, and I don’t care if he went 17 for 22. That completion percentage should be expected every night if you are a NFL QB.

  26. By dave on Aug 25, 2012 | Reply

    I just wanted to say it was a nice gesture to have some of the season ticket holders on the field before the raiders game it was my first time on the field. i like lindley out of the 3 quarterbacks he shows promise. Maybe we should bite the bullet and start him.

  27. By DontTakeLoses on Aug 25, 2012 | Reply

    Darren, anyone else too:

    1. Thoughts on TE Skelton? He’s a load, looks much bigger than Dray, catches the ball. Can he beat him out? Is Martell Webb in practice squad mix?
    2. Looks like Rashad is on the bubble, lots of potential safeties in camp. Rashad a good special teamer?

  28. By Walter H Richters on Aug 25, 2012 | Reply

    I saw two names that I hope make the practice squad, but I doubt if they will. Gino Crump and Eddie Elder. I really like Elder. He plays like Wilson, all out.

    Oh well, lets bring in the super QB and see if we can intercept him like the other teams have so far in preseason.

  29. By Mark on Aug 25, 2012 | Reply

    Darren,Do You Think The Cardinal’s Will Seek A Trade For Chicago Bear’s LT Chris William’s Despite Our Tackle Struggle’s?

  30. By Rio on Aug 25, 2012 | Reply

    To scubusteve 12//// If Kolb starts first game against Seattle, you can fly to las vegas and bet house on the Cards. Less see how much you really like him as your QB.

    Both QB’s should play against Denver this week, before Wiz mades final choice, they certainly need the work as does the whole team.

  31. By Scott H on Aug 25, 2012 | Reply

    scubasteve -

    OK. But did ya also notice how god-awful BOTH of the INT’s thrown by Kolb were??? Well, do you just discount those??? Because those will kill you and it is hard to understand what Kolb was thinking on those throws. Or HOW he could have NOT seen the defenders that were in perfect positions to pick those passes off. C’mon, man…on the first one, it looked to me like there was ONE Cardinal receiver in the area surrounded by a Titans team photo. HOW / WHY DO YOU EVEN TRY TO MAKE THAT THROW??? As many titans defensive players as there were in that area, you can’t tell me there wasn’t a Cardinals player wide open somewhere.

    That said, it was a perfect opprtunity for Skelton and he did not respond. Hence, we continue to have two QB’s who that have failed to claim this job.

    And this O-line…oh my God, are they terrible. Not that I didn’t know that area was a problem but this last game showed just how deep in trouble we really are. I sure they hope they can run block. Because if we can’t back off the opposing pass rush by running the ball effectively, whoever plays QB is gonna be pummled and the team will be on the bottom of the NFC West.

  32. By Darren Urban on Aug 25, 2012 | Reply

    AndyStands –

    RE: Cuts

    Wilson isn’t going anywhere. I expect Heap and Eason on this team too. We’ll see on the others.

  33. By Darren Urban on Aug 25, 2012 | Reply

    rdixon –

    RE: Comment

    I’m not sure what you want me to say. I didn’t catch a question in there.

  34. By Darren Urban on Aug 25, 2012 | Reply

    bigredcards –

    RE: Website

    I have seen things like that before, but to be honest, it’s not happening with my computer. I’m not sure why it would do that.

  35. By Darren Urban on Aug 25, 2012 | Reply

    DontTake –

    RE: Questions

    1. Dray is really good on special teams. It’ll be tough for Skelton to beat him out. But I’d never say never.
    2. Rashad does play special teams. He is also an interesting call.

  36. By Darren Urban on Aug 25, 2012 | Reply

    Mark –

    RE: Trade

    I’m not sure a trade will be one of their choices.

  37. By Red cards on Aug 25, 2012 | Reply

    Wow we’re in trouble big Time I watched the seahawks and ninners there going to be beasts this year hopefully we can beat the rams with the way Gimms olines palying it’s over before it even started and I had such high hopes for this year :( Grimm and whiz you hear that clock is ticking and times running out better get your stuff packed fans have had it whiz your biggest mistake was keeping your buddy and over looking what a s$$$ job he’s been doing with the oline if you can’t see it by now you have no business being a head coach …..,. A broken hearted fan

  38. By scubasteve12 on Aug 25, 2012 | Reply

    funny how people start paying attention to the oline when their holy savior skelton cant even play behind it. everyone is so focused on kolbs interception people dont forget how bad skeltons interception was. just as ugly. right into a defenders hand. no matter what kolb can do no right with any of you. and thats why i stand behind him. oh yea and he doesnt keep over throwing his recievers. skelton hasnt improved at all. he clealry showed that this time. but everyone refuses to see it and keeps making excuses for him. atleast kolb responded well and owned up to his interceptions. and 2 scoring drives.

  39. By Red cards on Aug 25, 2012 | Reply

    wow your saying kolb has got better from last season what a joke open your eyes sonny . It’s easy to see JS has, kolb has gone down hill he finally completes some passes and 17/22 wow but how many did he complete in the other three games hmm anyways I’m happy he was able to come back from the two ints but by no means am I happy with his performance , in my opinion JS has a better up side

  40. By Red cards on Aug 25, 2012 | Reply

    Scuba I no how bad your going to feel when you wear your kolb jersey and he’s the back up lol . Look I hope that one of these guys can step it up if it’s kolb then I will be happy and we can win some games thats what it’s all about but we all know he can’t take a hit and stay healthy so you might as well get behind JS bc he’s going to be are starter sooner or later

  41. By Mr Robles on Aug 25, 2012 | Reply

    Any potential free agents Cards are looking at for the Oline Darren? Do you think the new jersey’s by Nike are hurting blocking on the Oline?

  42. By drummer-1 on Aug 25, 2012 | Reply

    @ scubasteve12… I’m with ya man.. Kolb can go 22-24, 3td’s, 1 int and the fans would focus on his 2 missed pass’s… Skelton gets sack it’s the o-line sucks, but when Kolbs gets sacked it’s all kolbs fault, haters gon hate no matter what.. I think it’s all because the money he makes…

  43. By Rocky on Aug 25, 2012 | Reply

    Scubasteve… Whiz has never set skelton up to succeed in this “competition”
    He gets to start.. but with an open Gate for left tackle… the kid was completely lost out there…He had no clue at all.. how would you like that opportunity… Skelton goes out… Kolb comes in… suddenly there is a change at left tackle..and you boy KOLB throws picks straight to the linbackers.. never saw him KOLB said… he is so afraid of the pass rush he looses his vision for the routes.. Kolb had his success against the starting defense????? Last week against the raiders… Kolb was AWFUL!!! whiz brings in Skelton.. Bam TOUCHDOWN… SKELTON NEVER SEES THE FIELD AGAIN.. WHIZ DOES NOT WANT SKELTON TO DISTANCE HIMSELF FROM KOLB.. Understand.. Kolb is Just a terrible QB to us fans… But he is a 60 million dollar commitment
    by WHIZ… ( BIDWELLS 60 MIL ) If this does not Pan out …. WHIZ has 60 million reasons why he should worry about his JOB…surely before long… The ownership is going to see what some of us have seen for a few years..Whiz can not evaluate talent at all….This is nothing new… seems like the same old results for the last three years… some one remember DERRICK ANDERSON…another WHIZ remedy.. I GOT IT>>> NEXT YEAR>>> CAN WE DRAFT ANOTHER SAFETY OR BETTER YET…ANOTHER WIDE REC> IN THE FIRST ROUND>>> MIGHT HELP FITZ YOU KNOW.. THE O LINE IS TERRIBLE>> IS IT THE TALENT OR LACK OF??? OR MAYBE THE COACHING>> LOOK WHAT HARBAUGH HAS DONE IN HIS SHORT TIME IN S.F. THE 49ERS.. WITHOUT A LOT OF TURNOVER… WERE PRETTY CLOSE LAST YEAR..AND LOOK TO BE THERE AGAIN THIS YEAR… WHAT WAS THE DIFFERENCE… SINGLETARY HAD THE SAME PERSONEL… BUT COULD NOT MOTIVATE.. OR BRING OUT THE TALENT HE WAS COACHING… SORRY.. I THINK WHIZ GOT LUCKY WITH WARNER!!! WITHOUT kURTS TALENT…WE NEVER WOULD HAVE MADE IT TO THE SUPER BOWL… AND HAS ANYONE NOTICED THAT SINCE HALEY LEFT FOR K.C. WE HAVE NOT EVEN GOT CLOSE TO THE PLAYOFFS… WITH A CHANCE TO BRING HIM BACK THIS WINTER…WHIZ..SAID NO… WOULD HAVE BEEN COMPETITION FOR HIS JOB,, WAKE UP AZ. NATION TIME FOR WHIZ TO GO..

    P.S. KOLB LOOKS GOOD IN PRACTICE WHIZ SAYS… ( HELLO) THERE IS NO LIVE PASS RUSH IN PRACTICE..7 0N 7 IS A LOT DIFFERENT THAN GAME ACTION..AT LEAST SKELTON LOOKS DOWNFIELD FROM THE POCKET.. HE IS 5-2 ( SHOULD BE 6-2 ) HE GOT THE VICTORY IN THE GAME KOLB SUFFERED THE CONCUSSION IN… BUT BECAUSE HE DID NOT START HE DOES NOT GET THE WIN.. NOW IM DONE VENTING.. LETS PLAY FOOYBALL..NAYBE NEXT YEAR WE WILL HAVE A NEW HEAD COACH..

  44. By Rocky on Aug 25, 2012 | Reply

    With Young starting – and struggling – Whisenhunt acknowledged that the previous protection problems that had hindered Kolb “flipped” and now caused Skelton problems. FURTHER EVIDENCE OF WHIZ COMMITMENT TO KOLB… KOLB HAD HIS PROBLEMS WITH LEVI BROWN AT TACKLE… NOT A ROOKIE WITH NO CLUE OF WHAT HE WAS DOING.. KOLB HAD THE STARTING LINE..AND LOOKED AWFUL… HOW CAN WHIZ SAY THAT WITH THE ROOKIE IN AT L TACKLE… PU HIM IN THER WITH KOLB THIS WEEK AND LETS SERE WHAT HAPPENS… WHEN SKELTON WAS IN WITH LEVI AT ATCKLE HE LOOKED GOOD.. WHZ IS TRYING ALL HE CAN TO PREPARE US FOR THER KOLB DECISION.. HE KNOWS HE IS GONNA MAKE… SOOOOO SAD,,

  45. By AndyStandsUp on Aug 25, 2012 | Reply

    @Darren
    RE: Adrian Wilson cut

    I thought you would have recognized my sarcasm by now.

    What I meant to say was dropping Kolb like it’s hot and picking up a Turk- roster cut QB, like say Phillip Rivers.

  46. By jason marcus on Aug 25, 2012 | Reply

    Yeah, I can’t believe Kolb is all we got,no oline, we looked very bad, why can’t any of our guys just get rid of the ball fast enough? The Dfense will arrive but hopefully not too late in the season our offense collapsed many times and it looked like there was no rhyme or reason where they were trying to get the ball to, very shaky times,I hope this is all preseason bs,

  47. By jdcrow59 on Aug 25, 2012 | Reply

    How sad that we go into the last and most meaningless preseason game without knowing who the QB is. Don’t really know what they are going to find out going up against second and third string defense. If there is not a huge improvement in the play of the O-line both of these guys and maybe more will be needed to get through the season. Sure hope the defense is in the best shape of their lives. I think they are going to be on the field alot.

  48. By Brett on Aug 25, 2012 | Reply

    Yea cause that is the answer to everything

  49. By stephen on Aug 25, 2012 | Reply

    @Scuba the commentators clearly were announcing no qb could play or be evaluated under those conditions. @ Darren do u think it was fair to throw Skelton in with a test dummy left tackle and expect stellar performance? It was the perfect chance to throw him in and justify keeping Kolb as starter imo. Also I have been watching most of the pre season games and it seems like the play calling seems suspect for us. Hard to explain but nothing seems like it works. Also every team has run a screen Every team, and I cant recall us. Easy conversion if blocks are there.

  50. By Red cards on Aug 25, 2012 | Reply

    This is making me sick just like the hole Matt leinheart and DA QB comp whiz and grimm need to man up and just leave there just making the team worse

  51. By john the draft guy on Aug 25, 2012 | Reply

    scubasteve,
    Oh I saw Skelton’s int and I saw the two picks by Kolb. After seeing that game, my comments back in march are confirmed. We do not have a QB.

    No Skelton is not the savior. But Kolb is so bad, I cant understand how anyone thinks he can run an NFL offense.

    Kolb’s first int looked like he just threw the ball up for grabs. His second one, he starred down the wr so much, the middle LB came over and picked the ball for a TD. Kolb afterwords said he didnt see him. What? the first thing a QB does when coming to the line is to call out the Mike LB.

    Personally, I dont think there is an answer. Lindley is too raw and I’m not sure he is a starting QB in this league. Kolb and Skelton would have trouble being backups for most teams. Bartel is guy who has more smarts than talent.

    Then, T. Jackson has failed on two teams, he just isnt any good. Colt McCoy is a Texas boy, so I want to root for him. But his arm is weak and he cant make those deep and intermediate throws. So, who else? I guess I would make a call about Matt Moore.

    I would plan on running the ball 3 times and punt, play great defense and hope you win in special teams. With guys like Bethel and Peterson, thats our best bet.

    Before anyone says I am just doom and gloom, understand I have had season tickets since 1991. From 1995-2001, I lived in Texas and flew back for games. I’ve seen this team march QB after QB out and tell us he is the guy. At some point, you have to believe your eyes.

  52. By Evan on Aug 26, 2012 | Reply

    Cardnac the Magnificent Predicts:

    With no obvious winner at QB, Kolb will start until we lose to the Seahawks, Patriots and Eagles. Skelton then gets the nod against Miami and gets three wins against the Fish, the Rams and Buffalo, making Cards faithful think he’s the second coming of Warner… until, reality and Week 7 hits while we’re away at the Vikes. We lose out thru the bye and then get embarrassed by the Falcons during Week 11 (WHY?! We had an extra WEEK to get ready!!), forcing Whiz to make another change. Kolb returns the following week against the lowly Rams and gets the win, making us a divisional third place at 4 and 7 until the pain REALLY starts, losing out against the Jets, ‘Hawks, Lions, Bears and 49ers. At an unacceptable 4 and 12, management finally cleans house and starts over with the no-nonsense Gruden at the helm. Over the next 5 years, the Cards go on to the Super Bowl twice and finally get one victory. Don Shula himself gives Jon a bottle of expensive wine, and a medium rare 24oz porterhouse, at his Wild Horse Pass steakhouse – along with a truly memorable crème brûlée …and, it is good. Oh yes, it is REAL good.

  53. By tygrbass on Aug 26, 2012 | Reply

    You know Kolb is getting the start here. There has been way to much money thrown in his direction to just bench him.. They will at least see what he can do in the first couple of games and if they want to save face they are going to have to adjust the offense to kolb’s strengths. They have nothing really tied into skelton and don’t need to start him unless kolb really drops the ball. I think with heavy game planning and practice they will find a way to make it work with kolb..

  54. By tygrbass on Aug 26, 2012 | Reply

    with the o-line we have Kolb’s scrambling ability might actually compensate for broken down protection. It’s either that or they snag Tebow to play with this crappy line

  55. By tygrbass on Aug 26, 2012 | Reply

    one last question darren “we know what bridges can do at LT” for those of us who don’t remember what he can do, is it any better than what we have seen at that position??

  56. By carlo milano on Aug 26, 2012 | Reply

    darren
    whats your opinion about munchak ‘s commente about cardinal offensive line and qbs getting hurt

  57. By GACardFan on Aug 26, 2012 | Reply

    I am a major supporter of Skelton. That said, Kolb looked much more impressive in that last game. His two interceptions were blatantly ill advised and even dense, however, he fought back and performed well. There is one caveat to this success and that is his opportunity to play hurry up. This offensive line is simply not reacy to play a huddled tempo based offense. The line is simply to young at the bookends.

    I have long thought that the no-huddle offense plays to the advantage of both Kolb and Skelton. Unfortunately, by the time the staff had decided that they needed to see the QBs but could not get them killed Skelton had already come off the field. In order for this offense to function I think alot of no-huddle offense will have to be played. In order for this quarterback competition to be fair Skelton needs to get a look in the hurry up.

    From what I can tell Skelton plays better than Kolb in the standard offense. Considering Skelton’s performances late in games last year, times when the hurry up was used, I think it is likely that he would also out perform Kolb running an up-tempo no-huddle offense. If the staff wants to know who is best for their offense Skelton needs the same chance in the no huddle. If he cannot perform in that situation then Kolb has probably distanced himself ever so slightly in this race.

  58. By Darren on Aug 26, 2012 | Reply

    Do the Giants have some O-line extra for one the Cards DB’s?

  59. By AZ Cardinals Rock on Aug 26, 2012 | Reply

    Ok, I saw a little life in the O-Line and was breathing a little easier. May have to stick with Massie and Batiste at tackles. Need to focus on Potter as a backup and D.J. young needs work as a backup also. Don’t forget the new guard/tackle Selemete(sorry if spelled wrong) also played tackle in college. I think we may be OK. Potter was a starter at left tackle for several seasons at Boise St. and played against the best teams out there. If we can block for a solid 3.5 count, our QBs will look much better. It all starts with the beef up front. Go cards, rock on guys.

  60. By louis on Aug 26, 2012 | Reply

    if we start 0-4 again i hope that mr .bidwill has guts to fire the whole team including himself.

  61. By Andy Kw on Aug 26, 2012 | Reply

    Hey Darren,
    Who do you think the next cuts would be?

  62. By Luger griff on Aug 26, 2012 | Reply

    the more i read these posts,the more i realize how many ppl dont know jack bout football….first off whats up with the guy askin will not only heap but adrian wilson make the 53man roster,really dude,wow….and yes kolb went 17-22 but of those 5 incompletions,2 were picks,one for 6 points…that is not impressive folks…lets face it,kolb n his agent got us,this guy shouldnt b gettin 5mil,let alone 50+….skelton has a much stronger arm, and of his 6 incompletions,2 were dropped{1 by heap,1 by floyd} 1 int from being hurried n sailin the ball…and 3 incomp from tryna not get sacked! And what game is the guy watchin sayin kolb throws to Fitz more,WHATTTT??? the 53yd catch was the FIRST he threw to fitz all preseason! cmon guys ,watch the games b4 u make these insane replies!

  63. By Luger griff on Aug 26, 2012 | Reply

    oh yea,n trade beanie for a LT…wow,that makes a lot of sense,after beanie just ran for 1000+ n 10 tds,smh

  64. By cbsphx on Aug 26, 2012 | Reply

    Darren,

    Do you see the coaching staff essentially re-writing the playbook and going no huddle (or something quite similar) to mask the deficiencies of the OL, or is it your inclination that they’ll try business as usual and if it leads to 3-13, so be it?

  65. By Darren Urban on Aug 26, 2012 | Reply

    AndyStands –

    RE: Sarcasm

    Sorry. I should have, but if you had to sort through all these comments, you’d become numb too. Most of the comments on here, regardless of what they suggest, are given to me in absolute seriousness.

  66. By Darren Urban on Aug 26, 2012 | Reply

    tygr –

    RE: Bridges

    I think it is safe to say they are still looking at trying to upgrade knowing what Bridges can do.

  67. By Darren Urban on Aug 26, 2012 | Reply

    Carlo –

    RE: Munchak

    I think it was interesting for another coach to say such a thing, and I’d guess it didn’t sit very well with this coaching staff.

  68. By Darren Urban on Aug 26, 2012 | Reply

    Darren –

    RE: Giants OL

    What’s funny about that is that the Giants’ offensive line was considered below average last year.

  69. By Darren Urban on Aug 26, 2012 | Reply

    cbsphx –

    RE: Adapting

    I know it’s hard to believe to many commenting here, but the coaches have no desire to lose. I know, shocking.

  70. By DontTakeLoses on Aug 26, 2012 | Reply

    LOL when I read this: “Scuba I no how bad your going to feel when you wear your kolb jersey and he’s the back up lol .” Why former Card/Hero Pat Tillman is the safe jersey.

    Kolb’s two drives of 4 for 4 and 8 for 9 may have sealed the deal. Horrible interceptions, (but the venerable Kurt Warner had his share of bad ones). When he’s named starter, load lifted, he runs with it is my bet… but I’ve been wrong before;)

  71. By carlo milano on Aug 26, 2012 | Reply

    darren
    our defense produce just 3 sacks
    and offensive line allowed 18 sacks
    in 4 preseason game
    something to be worry about?

  72. By Darren Urban on Aug 26, 2012 | Reply

    Carlo –

    RE: Sacks

    Defense, not as much. Offense, definitely.

  73. By Darren on Aug 26, 2012 | Reply

    Darren,
    I was trying to go for some half serious, light hearted humor about Giants and O-line. Do you know of any team with good depth at the O-line, that we could possibly trade with? I know a lot of teams are looking for help. Which doesn’t help the Cardinals cause
    IMO I think we can have a great running game and still have a more than decent shot at at the NFC west; as long as, our defense stays ranked in top half of the league.
    And as many have said…thanks for your blogs.

  74. By cbsphx on Aug 26, 2012 | Reply

    Any word of interest on Alex Barron? He’s a holding call waiting to happen, but he’s probably better than what we have now.

  75. By Chuck 1 on Aug 26, 2012 | Reply

    I understand fans calling for Michael Bidwill to fire Whiz.
    He has made some questionable decisions regarding which QB (and other players) will play.

    HOWEVER, Rod Graves is PRIMARILY and ULTIMATELY RESPONSIBLE for ROSTER decisions. Whiz might request, plead, cajole and even demand that Graves draft and/or sign a FA or coach. But, GRAVES has the FINAL SAY.

    For example, fans are upset with the job that Grimm has done in “coaching up” the OL. But, as my Dad said, “you can’t make a silk purse out of a sow’s ear”. Russ Grimm has NOT been given any early round draft or quality FA OLinemen.

    SO, LET’S PUT THE BLAME FOR ROSTER DEFICIENCIES (notably QB and OL) RIGHT WHERE IT BELONGS. ON ROD GRAVES HEAD!!!

  76. By Darren Urban on Aug 26, 2012 | Reply

    Darren –

    RE: OL trade vs FA

    I would guess, given what could be out there and available, it’s more likely the Cards grab someone via free agency or waivers rather than a trade.

  77. By Darren Urban on Aug 26, 2012 | Reply

    johnnyblue, cbsphx –

    RE: Barron/Lutui

    I could see them looking into Barron. I doubt they go down the road with Deuce again.

  78. By Scott H on Aug 26, 2012 | Reply

    scubasteve -

    Let’s just say for a minute that Kolb and Skelton are dead even at this point. OK. Not that THAT’s a good thing, but since you seem to think that I ( and others ) only look at Kolb’s mistakes and not Skelton’s, let me ask you this – how much is this team paying Kolb right now and how much are they paying Skelton?

    Hopefully, you see my point and I really don’t have to explain any further. Clearly, MUCH more was expected of Kolb. And since that IS the case, then as far as I am concerned, we SHOULD be paying more attention to the fact that he is no better than John Skelton right now.

    If Kolb is truly a failure at this point, then it is costing us dearly because of how much this team has invested in him. If Skelton is a failure at this point, then what did it really cost us? Pretty much nothing. Honestly, if you don’t get that…then I don’t know what to do for ya.

  79. By card62 on Aug 26, 2012 | Reply

    Chuck

    is right. Rod Graves is our biggest problem and should have been fired last year.

    Chuck I do think Russ Grimm should also be let go. It is obvious he is not doing anything right, and we did bring in some free agent linemen so I would be shocked if he has not had input into free agents and the draft. If Russ did not have input why would he stay and ruin his reputation with the Cardinals?

    It just doesn’t matter who you fans want to see at QB this season because with our OL you will get to see all 3 QBs and they will be seeing plenty of our medical staff. I am not sold on any of our QBs so I am hoping for a new face next year.

    I feel so sorry for you season ticket holders. I know you love our Cardinals and on one side you hope so much for the best and a win, but our team is so easy to beat this year. Play conservative offsense against us and wait for our own offense to make mistakes of which they will and of course punt the ball out of bounds.

    Hey Darren how many more days until the 2013 draft?

    I love the Cardinals, but we are looking at another down year for the exact same reasons as the previous 2 years, OL, QB, OC, and this really angers me.
    FIRE ROD GRAVES and fire him now!

  80. By clssylssy on Aug 27, 2012 | Reply

    I hate this time of year…roster cuts…talent lost to other teams…which would be jpalatable if the Cards took advantage of picking up players that become available to make improvements. It’s like the Cards have this “frozen in time” “deer-in-the-headlights” slow to act response time. Pete Carroll has named his starter, Travaris Jackson has been cut, and resigned (all since last Friday) and other teams are poised to snatch up players to fortify weaknesses; I don’t think it’s Coach Whisenhunt’s call…it’s Michael Bidwell’s money and his call. Not getting Haley was a HUGE mistake, he is committed to winning and knows how to get the best out of his players. That being said, we need to make the best of what we have. At this point who starts is kinda mute since with our O-line, Skelton will ultimately be the starter after two or three games at most. Actually, we have better depth than most teams at the position and if we look at the Colts, Texans, and others last year we probably need to keep all QBs. I see it as 1.Kolb 2.Skelton 3.Lindley…(based on the money issue)although it should be 1.Skelton 2. Bartel 3.Kolb with Lindley to the practice quad until he’s had time to be brought up. I think Coach Whisenhunt knows Kolb won’t last more than two or three games (Seahawks…Patriots…make that two games) and the organization will have “given him every opportunity.”..yada, yada, yada). Kolb doesn’t have the “chemistry” with the team which translates into leadership…he’s presents himself as an entitled, petulant child and doesn’t ever act like he even likes being in Arizona and a part of this organization. I always get the feeling that he came against his wishes and will cash the checks and show up but beyond that, has no real investment in this team…attitude is everything and I don’t know of any job where an employee could have such a low performance and keep their executive position. Friday will be an important date and this next game against the Broncos will be very telling as to what the Cards are going to do this season. Currently, it appears we are battling the Rams for last place, really a tragedy considering all the talent on this team.

  81. By BIG RED on Aug 27, 2012 | Reply

    Now some news to mention……Scubasteve12 is the father in law of Kolb. Thank You all.

  82. By BIG RED on Aug 27, 2012 | Reply

    Drummer Boy 1 your right about that. So, with all that money show more, he just doesn’t have it to play in the NFL.

  83. By Bob-O on Aug 27, 2012 | Reply

    Hey Darren, What about Kurt war…OH NO I’VE GONE CROSS EYED!!!

    WELPT, never mind.

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