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Haggans to Niners, and other comings and goings

Posted by Darren Urban on September 2, 2012 – 9:54 am

I don’t expect any official word about who the Cards are adding to the roster until tomorrow — including practice squad — but because of the wonderful world of social media and the internet, news has leaked out about a handful of people.

– It came out yesterday that the Cards had claimed outside linebacker Jamaal Westerman on waivers after the Dolphins had released him. Westerman, 6-3 and 255 pounds, spent the first three years of his career with the Jets, and playing all 16 games last season he had 3.5 sacks. He signed with the Dolphins in March and was recently released. The Cards needed a linebacker, because they had only three outside linebackers on the roster after cutting Clark Haggans and Brandon Williams.

– The 49ers also claimed Westerman. When they didn’t get him, they are going to sign Haggans to fill their need for a reserve linebacker. That’s an interesting turn of events.

– There still isn’t any official word on the practice squad, but because of the Twitterverse, there have been a handful of names floating out there that are supposedly going to be on the Cards’ PS (which could begin to be put together yesterday). Included are former Arizona State receiver Gerell Robinson (cut by Denver), recently released defensive tackle Ricky Lumpkin and linebacker Colin Parker, and offensive tackle Steven Baker, a 6-8, 310-pounder cut by the Colts. UPDATE: As AndyStandsUp pointed out in the comments, there was also a report that former University of Arizona outside linebacker Ricky Elmore will sign to the Cards’ practice squad.

UPDATE II: Tight end Steve Skelton is practice squad-bound too.

– Quarterback Rich Bartel, who had been placed on injured reserve with a bad shoulder, tweeted out he was throwing well, had passed a physical, and was actually going to be released.


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33 Responses to “Haggans to Niners, and other comings and goings”

  1. By red sea rider on Sep 2, 2012 | Reply

    Did Bartel just poorly organize his tweet or did he really mean “thank God” he was released by the Cardinals?

  2. By Tim in NJ on Sep 2, 2012 | Reply

    Darren,
    Any word on S Blake Gideon making practice squad- he had a great pre-season!

    Go Cardinals!
    Tim in NJ

  3. By AndyStandsUp on Sep 2, 2012 | Reply

    And former UA Wildcat Ricky Elmore tweeted he had signed as well.

  4. By AB on Sep 2, 2012 | Reply

    Darren,

    I agree with red sea rider. It sounds like Bartel didn’t want to be here in Arizona, but he might have just worded it wrong.

  5. By AB on Sep 2, 2012 | Reply

    Darren and red sea rider,

    I just went ahead and asked Bartel about that tweet. I’ll see if he answers.

  6. By Dan on Sep 2, 2012 | Reply

    Rich Bartel’s thinking he may be getting released brings up a question in my mind. I understand the decision to hang on to Lindley since he is young and shows promise.

    But in regards to Bartel, I don’t understand why it seems he has never gotten much of a shot to be more than a 3rd string QB (regardless of what team he is on). I am not at practice but it seems like he plays well whenever he is given a shot. He has a quick release and shows accuracy. In the few times he has gotten into games he has gotten the offense moving.

    Is it me or for some reason has he kind have been arbitrarily selected to be a 3rd stringer? Im no expert, but it appears to me he has the talent to have a little more attention payed to him.

    Any thoughts? Am I missing something?

  7. By Ezz on Sep 2, 2012 | Reply

    He’s probably just glad that he’ll get to play this year. On another note, smart move by the Niners hiring a guy who knows our defense inside out. I doubt he’s gonna play much but he’ll sure tell them all he knows. Don’t be surprised if their offense does well against us.

  8. By Cardsbeliever on Sep 2, 2012 | Reply

    The way I read that is he was pleased to be released rather than stuck on injured reserve all season, this way he can look for work.

  9. By georgiebird on Sep 2, 2012 | Reply

    Darren,
    Hope the Cardinals stay with the big linebacker philosophy. Would also like to see them get rid of Lenon, If the ill- conceived 3-4 scheme is going to work at all, we need big linebackers with high ceilings-DW can be the little, fast guy.
    Harbaugh playing mind games with the Cards by acquiring Haggans- do they need pass rushers?

  10. By Lawrence Miller on Sep 2, 2012 | Reply

    I took it that he didn’t want to stay on injured reserve all season. Wanted a chance to be active somewhere else. Chance to play and better way to learn. Healthy thinking, in my opinion.

    Of course, he might have simply been relieved he was only hurt and not injured.

  11. By Darren Urban on Sep 2, 2012 | Reply

    Dan –

    RE: Bartel

    I don’t think it was arbitrary. It’s not like Bartel hasn’t been around the league for a while. Perhaps he will get another shot, but other than his work in the 2011 preseason, he’s never been able to impress any of the coaching staffs he has played for he should be more. Not just the Cards.

  12. By Skiptim on Sep 2, 2012 | Reply

    Probably “thank god” that he can continue to play this year due to a lack of injury, and have an opportunity to play somewhere.

  13. By Dan on Sep 2, 2012 | Reply

    On a different note, does anyone think that the Cards will make another move, to open up a spot for Trai Essex, now that he was released by the Steelers?

  14. By Darren Urban on Sep 2, 2012 | Reply

    Dan –

    RE: Essex

    I don’t know. Perhaps they sign a veteran after the first week.

  15. By Jzoully on Sep 2, 2012 | Reply

    Who was released? Or AJ Jefferson.

  16. By RelayTV on Sep 2, 2012 | Reply

    Although he only played against the 2nd and 3rd string guys (just like Lindley) Bartel had BY FAR the best QB rating of them all.

    And the most heart. Gonna miss him.

    Just saying.

  17. By jason on Sep 2, 2012 | Reply

    haggans to niners, dont matter. he didnt know the defense that well anyway, probably will do more harm then good if the niners dig him for info…
    skelton please!!!! step it up, settle the QB talk and shine, dont push to be a super star “that’ll come over a few seasons” just be consistant and attention to the details. Most of us card fans i feel have been behind you before Kolb ever signed with the team and continued to be behind you, use that to excell.

  18. By brad oneill on Sep 2, 2012 | Reply

    i am surprised they havent resigned young, i know he had a tough go of it but he is a young guy and coach spoke highly of him despite his troubles, seems like perfect development guy.

  19. By jskeleton on Sep 2, 2012 | Reply

    Ya, jason:
    Please Skelton manage the game, don’t do stupid mistakes. Don’t try to be a star; if you so, you will lose your job. PERIOD. Skelton, be you; don’t try to be Breez, Brady or Rodgers.

  20. By card62 on Sep 2, 2012 | Reply

    Sorry to see Jefferson traded as he was one of the underdogs that I rooted to have success, and I think he has improved a lot. I was hoping to see him continue improving with us, and a side benefit was to get Money Mike off the field and into coaching where he belongs.

    I wish Bartel well he just has not received the breaks. Maybe he could have won a couple of starts here instead of Max Hall if he would have been with us at that time.

    I hope Bobbie Massie will be good in the future, but as of right now he is not ready and will be destroyed early and often. It is not his fault so lets try not to be too hard on him, now Rod Graves and Russ Grimm that’s another story.

    Go Cards

  21. By jmh1982 on Sep 2, 2012 | Reply

    Haggans isn’t going to tell them anything they can’t figure out by looking at tape. It’s not what they do on the field but knowing what they are going to do from play to play and not even Horton knows what he is going to call prior to calling it.

  22. By Stephn Baldetti on Sep 2, 2012 | Reply

    Darren, is there any word on what 2013 round draft pick we got from Minnesota for Jefferson?

  23. By Darren Urban on Sep 2, 2012 | Reply

    Stephen –

    RE: Jefferson pick

    We won’t know for a while, probably. I’d expect a late-round choice.

  24. By CreditCard on Sep 2, 2012 | Reply

    Darren,

    Some teams instantly obtained their practice squad players, while other teams — nothing has been announced. What avantage / disadvantange for the Cards waiting game? Or is it, they’ve signed all their PS players — and junst not posted it?

  25. By Darren Urban on Sep 2, 2012 | Reply

    CreditCard –

    RE: Practice squad

    Most teams have not announced it yet. Other news, just like this one, has news leak out. I’d think we’d hear Monday. Not sure it’s a big hurry.

  26. By E.F.Huddle on Sep 2, 2012 | Reply

    take Note: I like this!
    UPDATE II: Tight end Steve Skelton is practice squad-bound too.

    As i mentioned in here the other day, I was concerned Cards coaches had ignored The Skelton to Skelton connection they developed @ Fordham. They do recognize Steves ability, just to rich at TE! for now ,i believe

  27. By AB on Sep 3, 2012 | Reply

    Glad to hear about TE Steve Skelton. It would be awesome and unique to see a Skelton-to-Skelton TD pass one day.

  28. By Derrick Haskan on Sep 3, 2012 | Reply

    Let’s stick with what we have guys let’s go forward GO CARDINALS!!!!

  29. By cardsalltheway on Sep 3, 2012 | Reply

    They are dropping like flies and the season hasn’t even started, expect another or two to go down on the OL. We are doomed! R. Bartel got ripped off and I’m not surprised his shoulder is already okay. Was he really ever hurt or was it an easy way to avoid another 3rd/4th string QB controversy with fans complaining about releasing Bartel(highest passer rating) instead of a rookie? I won’t forget, but R. Bartel is better off on another team so good luck Mr. Bartel. I sympathize with any and all of our QB’s.

  30. By clssylssy on Sep 3, 2012 | Reply

    Glad to hear S. Skelton to practice squad. I was very impressed with his performance in the preseason and think he holds a lot of promise. Even though we are heavy at TE, a couple of the guys have been injury prone and could be out at any time. Also, it is not unusual for division rivals to go after players cut in their division…case in point, Shockey to Panthers, Bush to Bucs, Snyder to Cards, etc. Historically, these guys don’t know enough to give away “trade secrets” and haven’t contributed in that way in a game changing manner. Sorry to lose Haggins to the 9ers because I always liked him and can’t stand the 9ers…still, this is a business and people need employment. Looking forward to getting an updated roster after Tuesday that will reflect who came and went, and who we will be starting with against the Seachickens. GO CARDS! Counting down to the REGULAR SEASON OPENER! Time for the Red Sea to be rising up!

  31. By William Barry on Sep 3, 2012 | Reply

    Haggans to the Niners…I think the Niners are just playing mind games with the Cardinals….I just read Ray Farmers article about Pro Football at the end of preseason: and he predicts the Niners will go downhill this season, and certainly not as productive as last year. I agree…..with his opinions….Down with the Niners Nation!!!!!!!

  32. By Eazy E on Sep 4, 2012 | Reply

    They got haggans to screw with us. He can still play in a limited role. Westerman will definitely get snaps, make use of them.

  33. By Scott H on Sep 4, 2012 | Reply

    This Hagans situation…don’t like it. Maybe he wasn’t really going to help the Cardinals be a good enough team to compete with the 49ers this year. But he sure will help a team like the 49ers be even more solid on D than they already were. And they are aleady damn scary on D.

    Unfortunately, I think the 49ers are as legit as it gets in the NFC this year. They already had one of the best defenses and THE best FG kicker in the league. And after this off-season, they appear to have up-graded significantly on offense as well. It will be a shock to me if they fall off.

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