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QB Kevin Kolb: “There’s no time to sulk”

Posted by Darren Urban on September 3, 2012 – 1:26 pm

The other side of John Skelton being named the starting quarterback is that Kevin Kolb was not. Today Kolb acknowledged that choice by coach Ken Whisenhunt was “disappointing.”

“That’s obvious,” Kolb said. “But one thing I have learned in this league is it’s full of surprises. You just keep pressing forward. If you take take time to sulk, you’ll be left behind and then an opportunity will pass you by.”

Kolb said he didn’t think there was just one thing that has turned what was a lock starting job a year ago to being on the bench to start the 2012 season. “My thinking on the deal is you work as hard as you can possibly work,” Kolb said. “I know there are still good things to come here. I think that every time something happens. That’s the perspective I keep.”

Kolb said his conversation with Whisenhunt was “short and sweet.” Whiz asked if Kolb had any questions, Kolb said no. He was fully aware, as Skelton said Monday, of the “ramifications” that would come one way or the other. The message Kolb gave to the coach? “I said I’d be ready if something comes up,” Kolb said. “I’m a professional.”

Realistically, Kolb will get a chance to play. Few quarterbacks start all 16 games. Kolb went through it when Michael Vick — who beat him out in Philly — got hurt three weeks later, Kolb said. The idea Kolb would be a distraction in the locker room or poor backup, because of his circumstances, just doesn’t ring true.

“There’s no time to sulk, there’s no time to feel sorry for myself,” Kolb said. “Got to go back to work today and get ready for the Seahawks.”


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91 Responses to “QB Kevin Kolb: “There’s no time to sulk””

  1. By William Barry on Sep 3, 2012 | Reply

    Kolb really played this scenario with class. He has accepted that Skelton will be our Starter, for the season.

    GO CARDS!!!!!! We stand together, and play as one!!

  2. By Brent on Sep 3, 2012 | Reply

    Good man. There is no way he has thrown his last pass as a Card.

  3. By buddy the town winner on Sep 3, 2012 | Reply

    He blew it when he tried to explain why he wasn’t scared. Saying it was a fine line between running and throwing.that doesn’t give his teammates any confidence. Then last year he often seemed to chumy with skelton. Joking with him on the sidelines during a loss. A second round pick and a six rounder who has no upside.his demeanor is poor and his bank account doesn’t reflect his problems.he might believe he’s ok and everbody else is dumb.

  4. By Sarah on Sep 3, 2012 | Reply

    I wish i had it as good as Kolb, the money is in the bank so to speak. He will be a solid backup and can change the momentum should the team bog down. It is really up to Skelton to do the job and not turn the ball over as much. He has been given the keys and our support, the OL has to do it’s job and he has to perform !

  5. By jmt8251 on Sep 3, 2012 | Reply

    Really Kolb is a BUM, he really doesn’t care about starting, he worthless as a QB

  6. By AndyStandsUp on Sep 3, 2012 | Reply

    IMO, his confidence is shot.
    Don’t know if he already does, but if not, sports psychologists have done wonders for athletes, including SF’s Alex Smith last season.

    Good news Darren, is that Fox has assigned Sam Rosen to do play-by-play for this week’s game and you know what that means.

  7. By scott023 on Sep 3, 2012 | Reply

    It is great to see Kolb handle this with class. We are cardinals, from starters to back ups. We must support each other and stand as a whole. Anything less is failure as a whole. We win together, or fail together. If at anytime, we do not help each other and fight within, then we give strength to the other team against us. I am so proud to be a fan of the cardinals, win or lose we are together. Go Cards, let’s whip some seachickens butts and never look back.

  8. By grandpa55 on Sep 3, 2012 | Reply

    For all you so-called Cardinal fans that enjoy kicking Kolb when he’s down, you need to grow the F up. Here’s a kid that has to be disappointed and could sulk and be a distraction but he chose not to, thats being a professional. You want to talk about lack of professionalism? Tell me why when Kolb threw that pick 6 against the Titans, the TV showed Skelton low 5’ing an o-line back up players? That’s a heck of a teammate, celebrating the failure of a teammate to get the starting position. That nothing but being a punk. He wasn’t good enough to win the job, it took Kolb losing it for Skelton to get the starting job.

    Well celebrate all ya wnat John, cuz Lindleys coming and he’s already run circles around your rookie performance. I’m a Cardinal fan and I’ll support whoevers taking the snaps cuz I am comfortable knowing a player will reap what he sows.

    But for now Cardinal fans, get off Kolbs back. It’s easy to criticize when you’re sitting in the stands. Lace’em up and try and make the team next year if you think you know it all. Opinions are like armpits, everyone has one but ya don’t want to hear that you have one. Grow up and support this team regardless of who the QB is, is that asking too much?

    And Arizonans wonder why they get the label of being fair-weathered fans.

  9. By BIG RED on Sep 3, 2012 | Reply

    Ha! Ha! Ha! When #4 screws up on his 1st attempt to come back for Skelton, his gonna be replace by Lindley. That will be the end of #4.

  10. By drummer-1 on Sep 3, 2012 | Reply

    I think i might like this grandpa55 guy.. We have the same thought process, well atleast on this subject.. Great post grandpa55..

  11. By KKFan on Sep 3, 2012 | Reply

    @ grandpa55, I couldn;’t have said it better. Those who are gloating over
    Kevins demotion, are immature and a sorry excuse for a human being. As a mother, I can only imagine how proud their mamas must be of them to show such little disrecard and respect toward another.

    Kevin is not a bum. A bum is someone who refuses to work and is lazy.

    If he has lost confidence than it is the fault of the O line and the coaches for not providing him with better players to protect him.

    And to say he would be unprofessional proves that you really don’t know him at all. Kevin has always demonstrated professionalism and a very good team mate.I wonder how many of you could say the same?

    As for the poster who mentioned Kevin talking on the side lines with John and smiling or laughing. How do you know they weren’t laughing at something that happened on the side lines, or something someone said? The point is you don’t. But even if that weren’t the case, isn’t enjoying your time and conversing with your team mates what building chemistry is all about?

    God gives us all tests through life to challenge our character and our faith.
    This is his way of testing Kevins farther.

    Keep your chin up Kevin, continue to work hard and learn, eventually something good will happen for you.

  12. By Stewart Badly on Sep 3, 2012 | Reply

    @ grandpa55

    SHUT UP

  13. By joecb91 on Sep 3, 2012 | Reply

    Agreed with Grandpa55.

  14. By Stewart Badly on Sep 3, 2012 | Reply

    GO SKELTON

    QB Kevin Kolb was given every opportunity to win the job, he had plenty of chances, he is closer of loosing the back up QB position to Lindley than taking the starting QB position from Skelton, Kolb didn’t improve at all this off season. Skelton will improve because he has done it every year sense his freshman year in college.

  15. By Joe C. on Sep 3, 2012 | Reply

    I agree with grandpa55. As Cardinals fans, we need to lose the label as “fair-weathered ” fans and support our team through thick and thin. Some of these posts people put on here are terrible.I cant believe some of you actually call yourselves fans. I have been a Cardinals fan for 41 years. I used to live in the St. Louis area and moved to Arizona the year after the Cardinals moved there. I always support OUR team. Lets support them as fans and not constantly “bash” them. Nobody liked our “O” line and now we have had a couple of unfortunate injuries which will allow for new faces to step up. Lets give them a chance. On the QB situation, I agree our QB is not a Brady, Rodgers or Brees but they are both solid. Remember SF last year? With a AVERAGE QB at best and a good defense and running game, they were one play from the Super Bowl. Why is everyone giving up hope before the first snap of the regular season??? My wife and I had to transfer to Southern California several years ago due to my job. We kept our season tickets and drive 5 hours each way, plus food, gas and hotel to support our team for every home game. After that drive it would be nice to see a full support for our team. As the Seattle game approaches, I would love to see posts of support for our Arizona Cardinals rather then all the negativity.
    Go Cards and prove all the ” fair-weathered fans” wrong!!!
    Everyone needs to show true support!

  16. By Austin on Sep 3, 2012 | Reply

    Aside from Skelton being a punk, I love what grandapa55 had to say. Don’t come down on Skelton when he’s the one who got snubbed by Kolb in game 1 after Kolb got hurt. Remember that?

  17. By john the draft guy on Sep 3, 2012 | Reply

    grandpa55 and everyone who agrees with him;

    I’m confused.
    One moment you say you will support any qb for the cards, the next you say Skelton is a punk.

    You say Lindley is coming after Skelton, then you say get off Kolbs back for his mistakes.

    Fair weather fans? where do you sit in the stadium?

    As a season ticket holder since 1991, I’ve listened to every team’s fans taunt the cards and their fans. Even when we had our run, they said it was a fluke. Yet, year after year I support the team.

    So, am I not allowed to voice my opinion that I dont think Kolb can be or ever will be an NFL starting QB for any extended period of time? Heck, I dont believe Skelton is one either and the jury is still out on Lindley.

    Watching QBs live for as long as I have, you see what a real NFL qb looks like and you can tell who is a backup.

    And for what this is worth, I dont think either guy snubbed the other one.

  18. By Kurt on Sep 3, 2012 | Reply

    The last time the Card’s had a true starting QB battle Kurt Warner prevailed over that past party animal USC quarterback. That worked out pretty well.

    let’s all hope that both Skelton and Kolb prove themselves on the field this year.

  19. By cobra on Sep 3, 2012 | Reply

    Stewart Badly:

    Re: grandpa55:

    Very disrepectfull. Stewie, you should be put back in your hi-chair so the DOG can feed you. If you have a valid comment, by all means share, if not, pay attention to the posts on this blog. You may learn something!

  20. By Judy on Sep 3, 2012 | Reply

    grandpa55: You tell us to root for the team no matter who is the QB after you have already insulted John Skelton by saying he did something that i do not believe for one minute.If Kolb had been chosen i would have rooted for him.But Skelton was picked so i will root for him without making any insulting remarks about Kolb.If heaven forbid,John should get hurt.I will be rooting for Kevin to win as many gaes as he is in.

  21. By truths4all on Sep 3, 2012 | Reply

    You Haters need to lighten up.

    Kolb is a very good WCO QB and may have finally helped Whiz realize that when the Offensive Coordinator called a series of WCO type passing plays for Kolb who in turn executed those short quick passes well just as he did in Philly. There also is no question that Kolb still struggles with the timing based passing plays that comprise of the vast majority of the Cards passing offense.

    Right now, Skelton can execute far more of the Cards passing play package than Kolb. Skelton’s major knock is his relative NFL inexperience and lack of NFL exposure. With more experience and exposure, the game will slow down even more for Skelton and I expect his QB numbers and execution to really improve over last year.

    In the event Kolb replaces Skelton, look for the Cards to trim down their passing attack to consist of their WCO type plays as they should now know that Kolb can execute those type of plays to keep the Offense moving.

    What matters now is for the Cards to win every game and not to lose any games.

  22. By Patrick Eagan on Sep 3, 2012 | Reply

    I still think Kevin Kolb is the better QB. Not much better but enough… but we will see. Honestly it doesn’t matter who is the starting the QB if the offensive line plays the way they did in the preseason. I am scared that the guys we have on the offensive line are just not good enough to get it done.

  23. By johnnybluenose on Sep 3, 2012 | Reply

    truths4all….all you want is for the cards to win every game and to not lose any games. unless there is a tie game, are those two thoughts not the same? hope one of your wishes comes true.

  24. By Gerald Jones on Sep 3, 2012 | Reply

    I hope the offensive coordinator and Whiz will call plays that complement Skelton’s abilities. Timing routes may have been right for Kurt and Fitz, but are those plays right for Big Red John Skelton? One thing is for sure – no protection for our quraterback spells disaster. But I’m sure Russ Grimm is well aware of that.

  25. By nighthawk2005 on Sep 3, 2012 | Reply

    Kolb handled it much better than I would have. You’re clearly the better player to the point where the other guy shouldn’t even be competing, you outplay him and you still get benched?

    I keep losing faith in Whisenhunt every day. This is further proof that he doesn’t have a clue what he’s doing. We have handed Seattle a 1-0 start, and given that that’s who we’ll have to beat out for a wild-card, we did not need to give the Seahawks any help by benching our best quarterback.

    I predict that in four months time, neither John Skelton nor Ken Whisenhunt are Arizona Cardinal employees.

  26. By vegas4u2012. on Sep 3, 2012 | Reply

    @Stewart Badly-(in regards to comment you made to Grandpa 55).YOU SHUT UP!With the the status of our o-line right now,I don’t care if we are running,or passing,The other defense is always going to stack the line against us.We’re going to need two experienced qb’s & our rb’s we have right now to be able to compete.

  27. By Steve W. on Sep 3, 2012 | Reply

    I fully agree that Kolb appears to be showing a very fine attitude toward his demotion to backup. As to Grandpa 55’s accusation of Skelton ‘celebrating’ Kolb’s interception for a touchdown, I’ve seen no clip of that – nor any chatter outside of the comment in this very blog – so I’m very doubtful that it took place. Skelton seems to me like a class act, and I hope he’s up to the task of carrying this offense on his shoulders. Concerns with the O-line and the hole at left tack in particular is certainly on the minds of all Cards fans, but I also believe we have some very fine offensive weapons, including what might be a great running tandem that should take a lot of the load of our quarterback this year.

    Bring on the Seahawks and GO CARDS!!

  28. By vegas4u2012. on Sep 3, 2012 | Reply

    @-Sterwart Badly.I agree w/you about faceing rookie qb’s early in the season & about THE GAME VS/THE PATS.I Just came from the sportsbook here in las vegas.Seahawks are -2 off the board.When the line first came out the oddsmakers had Cards-1.So at this point they feel seattle will win this game.So therefore Skelton at qb did not change anything once he was annouced the starter.

  29. By Rio on Sep 3, 2012 | Reply

    Gramps 55,

    Lay off the sauce, you sound just like an old man.

  30. By Red cards on Sep 3, 2012 | Reply

    I can’t believe you guys can’t see that kolb has went down from last year look at the preseason games last year he has got worse Skelton is the only chance we have to win . I mean with this oline kolb will end up in a wheelchair he just can’t take the hits Skelton just won’t break as easy but I don’t know how much punishment he can take ether so in comes lindy then he gets hurt and maybe we can get bartel back . I think we are going to need five QBs to get to the end of the season

  31. By Jerry on Sep 3, 2012 | Reply

    Its easy to say what people want to hear but we’ll see if the actions are the same if he needs to replace Skelton. I think Skelton will improve each game unlike Kolb. we’ll see though.

  32. By Cactus jeff on Sep 3, 2012 | Reply

    Darren
    Is Housler healthy? Also, do me a favor, when cardinals play the 49ers tell Whiz to run at Clark Hagans every chance they get!

  33. By makinmoney39 on Sep 3, 2012 | Reply

    Kevin did OK he is a good QB and just needs to buckle down and be ready and improve as the season moves on. He done good for da eagles and he will do well for us in the future as a back up or a spot starter if something happens to Skelton. Kevin keep your head up and work your ass off…..your time will come..

    Bubba

  34. By Kevin S on Sep 3, 2012 | Reply

    Fans read too much into expressions, etc. on the sidelines. Same thing happened when DA and Deuce had a laugh toward the end of a Cards’ loss. Now if Skelton in fact low-fived a teammate when Kolb threw an INT, that’s not good, but I didn’t see that happen. The supposed Kolb “snub” of Skelton was much ado about nothing.

    All fans are entitled to their opinion, but the Kolb haters, quite frankly, are just mad that they got all excited about 2011 after suffering through a miserable 2010, and then nothing really materialized — although, interestingly, the Vegas O/U on the Cards last year was 6.5 wins at most sportsbooks. Fans tend to see the team through a prism that allows for optimism, so in 2010, it was “Holy cow, we won 5 games with some of the worst quarterbacking you’ll ever see, and we were only 2 wins away from winning the division. Think how good we’d be with even just an average QB.” This caused fans to overlook other deficiencies in the team… and so when Kolb was signed, it was like, playoffs, here we come to many fans. But, again, objectively, people who put money on these things saw it differently. Even with a pretty easy schedule, for the Cards O/U to only be 6.5 last year tells you that most experts didn’t think Kolb was the savior.

    A great QB would be nice, but the 49ers showed last year, and the Ravens with Flacco have shown for a while, that with solid D and a running game, you can get by with an average QB. Heck, last year we went 8-8 with Kolb and Skelton having a combined QBR of around 75, which would’ve been 25th in the league if achieved by a single QB. Our QB’ing should have had us with just about the worst record in the league in 2010 (but we beat out 4 teams) and, last year, based on QB alone, we should’ve had one of the 7th or 8th worst records (but we beat out 12 teams, plus tied with 7 others at 8-8).

  35. By warnerHOF on Sep 3, 2012 | Reply

    hey urban,
    will they allow you to walk out there and watch their practice? then you would know who the starters are and you could let us know.

  36. By ILuvBugel on Sep 3, 2012 | Reply

    Division among the players.
    Division among the fans.
    Let’s support each other.
    We’re all on the same team.
    “WE DO THIS TOGETHER!”
    Right?

  37. By warnerHOF on Sep 3, 2012 | Reply

    @grandpa55,
    We are certainly Cardinals Fans and have been for many years. We are not “kicking Kolb while he is down” we never wanted him in the first place, he didn’t develope happy feet after he became a Cardinal. As for Skelton laughing because Kolb threw an interception, that is ridiculous. No one has any idea what Skelton and that other player were talking about and they weren’t even looking at the field, to assume you know is absurd. Skelton has shown himself to be a Team Player, so laughing at an interception by his Team is not something he would laugh at no matter who threw it. But watching Kolb show his disdain for Skelton has been obvious, it puts us in mind of the way Leinert treated Warner in the same situation.

  38. By Matt on Sep 3, 2012 | Reply

    I’d be professional too if I had a contract for 21 million guaranteed.

  39. By FanSinceJamesHart on Sep 3, 2012 | Reply

    Love how people say “He handled this with class.”
    How hard for him is that to do? He got paid millions to play below average and now he is getting millions not to play.
    I don’t know but if someone paid me millions of dollars to not work much, I’d take it with class too.
    The better QB is starting, we would have won three more games if Skelton started all year last year. 11-5 RECORD right there.
    Can’t wait for him to prove himself and take us to a 10-6/ 11-5 record. I predicted the Superbowl and people laughed at me, this year same thing is happening.
    Results speak for themselves.
    GO CARDS!

  40. By bluepitt on Sep 3, 2012 | Reply

    How I think it needed to go..
    WHIZ: “Kevin is going to get the nod” Reporter: “Why Kolb over Skelton” Whiz: “We havent lost our confidence in Kevin he just needs to get more comfey in our system” …”We have a huge investment in kevin and we feel we need to determin our risk vs reward with him”.. “We know what we have in John and feel fine if he needs to step in and perform at any time during the season, if Kevin doesnt get the Job done”
    This I would have respected….lol It wouldnt have devided the fan base!
    LOL Great JOB WHIZ!!!! Looking forward th camp 2013 what QB drama will we have…..We have only had one year less the drama under your watch Ken!

  41. By bluepitt on Sep 4, 2012 | Reply

    @truths4all,
    1st, Skelton has had 3 years and 13 starts for this team, Kolb has 1yr and 9 starts. Skelton knows this Offence 10x better than kolb.(there shouldn’t have been a competition if skelton was better than Kolb) if you read all the pros posts they said kolb’s timing is 100% better than Skeltons in practice skelton over and under threw his passes.
    Kolb is a great West Coast QB. But at what point does Whiz taylor his O to fit a QB other than Warner? (and not just scale it back?)

    I like Skelton but feel he will only get as far as his physical talent will allow, I don’t think he has the mind to be great, not a knock on John but just a simple truth.

    Example: Who is a better Physical talent, Brady or Vick?..Mc Knabb or Manning.. Now tell me who plays smarter?

    Better example: who is the better Physical talent Warner or just about all the other QB’s that have ever played QB in the NFL..hahaha

    I do think Kolb has a huge upside if the O is catered to his strengths….

    Just look at the Raiders if it was a QB competition Matt would have smoked Palmer based on what he did in the preseason, and we know Palmer is 100x the pro over Matt, but matt knows the scheme the texans quardinator brought with him,

    proving my point, Skelton should have had no trouble beating out Kolb because he has 2 years on him in this Offence, so who is the better man for the job? I have no Freaking clue, just pointing out some facts. You decide?

  42. By Eazy E on Sep 4, 2012 | Reply

    I really hope he doesn’t throw another pass as a cardinal. How the hell do you lose the starting QB job when everybody in the front office and Whiz damn near giving you the job. He ain’t gonna play hopefully due to injury or poor play. I’d much rather if my boy Skelton falters, bring in a veteran QB such as McNabb for the 100th time ”Cardinals”, Vince Young, Etc. Lindley is way too inexperienced to have a shot and I know Kolb’s base salary is only a mil, but, I would still cut him. He is useless on our team now. He’ll be a horrible backup because not only can the dude not play, he show can’t play GOD forbid put in the middle of a game due to injury or poor play.

  43. By Brad Wheeler on Sep 4, 2012 | Reply

    Reality is doesnt matter which one of these guys is our quarterback, our playcalling is the most predictable in the NFL, none have a chance until they find a quality playcaller…

  44. By dan on Sep 4, 2012 | Reply

    I can think of a few reasons why he lost his starting job. Bonehead interceptions and no football instincts comes to mind. I mean those interceptions were awful. I mean at least look where you are throwing the ball.

  45. By Proman on Sep 4, 2012 | Reply

    If getting a lucrative contract, a guaranteed starting job as an NFL quarterback isn’t your chance, what is? The guy is a goblin. He works at a bank near Hogwarts. He greedily collects money for the one-sided deals he makes to those desperate enough to make them, and then stores his ill gotten gains in his secret vault hidden underneath a graveyard. If you directly confront him or challenge his ability to tough things out, to act heroically, he will simply sneer at you and mumble an insult through his teeth so you can’t hear him. Afterwards, he immediately returns to counting his gold.

    Alright, I’m sure in actuality he is a nice guy. But looking highly on him for being merely professional when he loses his job is a disservice to him and the rest of the Cards fan base. The guy has the potential to air it out and own people in the NFL. He could dissolve defensive schemes and out think opponents. But he doesn’t, because he has apparently lost his confidence. I hope he stops being a mere goblin and goes super villain like the kolbgoblin he is., and starts punishing defenses that treat him like an incompetent quarterback. He’s not, he has the potential to lead this team and play with a chip on his shoulder. I bet he plays better with something to prove. But until he does that, he is simply a goblin who got away with making much more money than he should have.

  46. By Proman on Sep 4, 2012 | Reply

    If I didn’t like the guy, I wouldn’t say any of that. I would simply dismiss him as irrelevant. When that guy signed up with the team, I was so excited. I thought that this was our chance to pick up where Warner left off, and I really thought Kolb could fill his shoes. I still think he can. Yes, he got the short end of the stick with no preseason. And I can’t even imagine how a concussion would shake a person’s confidence. But I know that the guy is a great quarterback, I just hope he realizes it and has the confidence to go out there and prove it.

  47. By Marcelof on Sep 4, 2012 | Reply

    Howdy fans…

    I just believe people are not Kolb haters, they just don’t want to see him as a Cardinals’ QB. He’s jut… bad… I’ve always said that, If Kolb was really good, he’d have never been put into competition and even worse, lost it.

    I don’t understand nothing of QB evaluating and probably neither do the most of you, if Whiz picked Skelton it is because he – Skelton – has shown ( it can be 0,001% ) more than what Kolb has. Maybe early or late in the season we will see Kolb under center starting the game, but by now all that we have to do is to congratulate Skelton and support him every single play, booing must be swept out of UoPS. If he doesn’t do good, he will be replaced, if Kolb doesn’t do good he will also be replaced, that’s cliche, that’s business.

    I personally don’t like Kolb, he gives me no confidence, no hope and no football, but who Am I to blame him? I simply don’t think he’s worth the money.

    as my ol’ papa used to say… “you don’t need to prove to anyone you’re outstading, you just go there and play.”

  48. By Eric Hutchins on Sep 4, 2012 | Reply

    Grandpa55, good job.

    I believe the Skelton choice was the wrong one, I think ego’s instead of brains were involved in that one. I am ashamed of the organization and of some of the awful hateful fans who are so nasty to Kolb for no reason. He did not put a gun to their head when they gave him his deal. Are you fools saying that if you were in his position you would have turned it down. Are you saying that you would give them the money back now?

    Regardless of all that nonsense, It is so clear to me that he is the better QB.
    Since so many others are talking about how long they have been fans of this team I will throw mine in. I have lived and died by the team since I was a small child (3 generations of my family (4 people) have played QB at a high level including myself. so I started young),,,,, nearly 40 YEARS and this is one of the lowest spots for me (Denny Green years lower). and I WILL root for Skelton to fail, and fail quickly, for the team to lose 3 out of the gate so that Skelton gets sat down and the true QB of this team gets to play.

  49. By Eric Hutchins on Sep 4, 2012 | Reply

    Austin,
    do you really think Kolb should have high fived Skelton coming off the field in that situation, if you do I think you are a fool. In the same situation I would have done exactly what Kolb did.

  50. By brad oneill on Sep 4, 2012 | Reply

    I am glad Kolb is on board, he had a bad preseason after a weak year last year. that doesnt mean he sucks, it just means he is having some trouble, it happens to everyone at one point or another. Hopefully he can take this time to get his head right and when he gets a chance on the field again he can showcase the skills that flashed while he was in philly and even made a few brief appearances during his time as a Cardinal.

  51. By Darren Urban on Sep 4, 2012 | Reply

    Cactus —

    RE: Housler

    As far as I can tell, yes, Housler is healthy.

  52. By Darren Urban on Sep 4, 2012 | Reply

    warnerHOF —

    RE: starters

    Did I miss something? Are you not sure who the starters are?

  53. By Eric Y on Sep 4, 2012 | Reply

    Darren, any word on the severity of Rich Bartel’s injury? You think puting him on IR could also be somewhat of a safety play to keep him with the Cardinals? I gues what I am asking is if you think it is possible his injury was exaggerated? If we had to cut him, I’m certain he would have been picked by someone else before making the practice squad.

    Possible scenario: If Skelton has some success, we say “piece out” to Kolb at the end of the year, plug in Bartel as the back up, and continue to groom Lindley. That of course being if Skelton improves or even stays alive for that matter.

  54. By Darren Urban on Sep 4, 2012 | Reply

    Eric Y —

    RE: Bartel

    Bartel has already been released from IR, free to sign with any team.

  55. By Eric Y on Sep 4, 2012 | Reply

    Oh. I didn’t even realize that. My bad. Keep up the good work!

  56. By BIG RED on Sep 4, 2012 | Reply

    @Eric Hutchins you must be related to your Grandpa 55. Both of you think the same, stupid. I just hope there’s no more siblings coming out later. Skelton all the way!!!!

  57. By Aurora on Sep 4, 2012 | Reply

    Hummm. Wasn’t Kolb supposed to become automatically awesome when they fired the QB coach Miller and replaced him? You mean it wasn’t his fault that Kolb did not get any better? Will the new QB coach lose his job now too? That would be 3 QB coaches fired in succession. Maybe the owner needs to look elsewhere for reasons…..I’m just saying.

    Aurora

  58. By AndyStandsUp on Sep 4, 2012 | Reply

    Which will come first, injury report or naming of captains?

  59. By AZfaninWA on Sep 4, 2012 | Reply

    Darren,
    Any inside word on whether this is true? Also, if it was true, could the cards afford to add a player asking what he is…?

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000057982/article/bryant-mckinnie-ravens-to-release-me-after-failed-talks?module=HP11_headline_stack

  60. By Derrick Haskan on Sep 4, 2012 | Reply

    I have been a fan since 88 and there were only about 20 to 30 at the most out in flagstaff till after the Super Bowl I never saw any body out there thank you for the new fans lets just go forward not back go CARDINALS!!!!

  61. By Mr Robles on Sep 4, 2012 | Reply

    Hey Darren I dont know if you have addressed this but will Kolb have to take a pay cut?

  62. By Darren Urban on Sep 4, 2012 | Reply

    Mr Robles —

    RE: Kolb pay cut

    His salary is only $1 million.

  63. By The Jack on Sep 4, 2012 | Reply

    Eric Hutchins –

    who’s the real QB? Lindley? Bartel?
    P Peterson?

    They way you’re backing Kolb it seems you’re a Kolb lover, stop workshiping him and lay your eyes on reality…

    Rooting for your team to be defeated? Non farmi ridere.

    The choice has been made, put up with it and root for your team!

    GO CARDS.

  64. By Austin on Sep 4, 2012 | Reply

    Darren,
    In your opinion, why is it that people keep bringing up Donovan McNabb and Vince Young? McNabb was demoted behind Christian Ponder and Young couldn’t even seal a gig as a backup, and these people are calling for them to save us? Is it just because they have names that are recongizable to the masses? I for one don’t understand. I’m happy with the Skelton pick and would take Kolb any day over McNabb and Young. I enjoy reading the comments but they are getting harder to read with all these “experts” chiming in. Just wondered what your thoughts are. Thanks.

  65. By Billy on Sep 4, 2012 | Reply

    GO GET MCKINNIE

  66. By buddy the town winner on Sep 4, 2012 | Reply

    We knew last year kolb was a dud. We knew two years ago skelton was a stiff.meanwhile adub is getting older,further everyday from burgerking commercial adub and larry is being wasted at a high price.gandy went down three years ago and we haven’t addressed that either.we have no depth and no cap space.why did this happen.

  67. By BIRDFN on Sep 4, 2012 | Reply

    In my opinion kolb would have been a better choice, but for years we have had a below average o- line and it’s not getting any better. Why not try getting a qb that can run when pressured. Taveris Jackson would have been nice but VINCE YOUNG is available. Why not give him a shot, big,strong and he can run. Not to mention he has a strong accurate arm. What do u think Darren?

  68. By Darren Urban on Sep 4, 2012 | Reply

    Austin —

    RE: Vince Young

    I think, like moths to a flame, fans are drawn to “big” names. Sometimes they can still play. Oftentimes, they no longer can, or are not good fits.

  69. By joecb91 on Sep 4, 2012 | Reply

    On the NFL.com recap of the Titans game, they did show Skelton laughing a little bit after Kolb’s pick, but I didn’t see a high five.

  70. By bluepitt on Sep 4, 2012 | Reply

    So what id Skelton was laughing,,, Maby he said ” I know how that feels” with a chuckle…..people read way more in to a smile than they do a frown!!!!

  71. By Scott H on Sep 4, 2012 | Reply

    Gotta appreciate the professional attitude. And he is clearly a guy who will walk the walk, not just talk the talk. He showed that last year with his contributions from the sideline, always being into the games, trying to help in any way he could. Against the Eagles in Philly, he was calling the plays the defense was preparing to run and he was right on. That kind of contribution from your back-up QB can be invaluable.

    And that is EXACTLY what you would have NEVER gotten from a guy like McNabb. And that is EXACTLY why I’m glad he never came here.

  72. By john the draft guy on Sep 4, 2012 | Reply

    Kolb supporters;

    please tell me what you see in Kolb. His pocket presence is bad, he stares down receivers, holds on to the ball too long, doesn’t trust his RBs to pick up their blocks, very rarely hits his outlet guy when pressured. He doesnt have a strong arm or is a durable player.
    So, for Gods sake, tell me why you like him? Please , what is it?

    With Skelton, i question if he is an NFL qb, but at least he has redeeming qualities. He is a big guy, with a strong arm. He slides well in the pocket. He will go to his check downs and is willing to take a hit to deleiver the ball. (of course, he is constantly high down the middle, leading to picks and forces the ball at times) but at least he gives you something.

    As for both guys intellegence, we aren’t in the film rooms or coaches rooms, so all you can judge that by is their play. Kolb seems lost half the time. Not a good sign.

    So grandpa55, KKfan, truth4all, joe c, and anyone else. What do you honestly see that I don’t.

  73. By Scott H on Sep 4, 2012 | Reply

    John the draft guy –

    Well, as much as I am in Skelton’s corner right now, here is what I ( can’t speak for others ) have seen in Kolb. I’ve seen plays like the 70-plus yard TD pass he threw to Fitz against the redskins last year, where he was practically having his head taken off as he was releasing the pass. He hung in there, got it off, and made a damn nice throw for a score. And I’ve seen plays like the winning pass to LSH in OT against the Cowboys where he scrambled out of the pocket and delivered a perfect strike on the move to a RB who caught a ball in perfect stride.

    OK, maybe a short list. Like I said, I’ve been in Skelton’s corner since the end of last season and I’m staying there. But Kolb has shown some ability. Unfortunately, not enough. I took a shot at answering your question.

  74. By john the draft guy on Sep 4, 2012 | Reply

    Blueprint;

    If you are stating facts, shouldn’t they be, you know, facts.

    Skelton was drafted in 2010. Kolb was traded for in 2011. I’m not a math major, but that would make Skelton entering year 3 and Kolb entering year 2.
    Entering year 2, why doesnt Kolb know the offense??

    Kolb is a GREAT west coast offense QB??? Really? Kolb had 7 starts in 4 years under Andy “I make every QB look good” Reed. He put up Joe Montana like numbers with 11 tds and 10 picks. In 2010, he lit it up with 5 starts, throwing 7 tds and 7 picks and a overwelming 76.1 QB rating. If that is how he does in an offense he fits in, no wonder he isnt starting in our offense.

    Come on Blueprint, you got to put up a better argument than that.

  75. By BIG RED on Sep 4, 2012 | Reply

    @joecb91 you say Skelton was laughing when #4 threw a pick against the Titans. Let’s say your walking down the street with your wife or your girlfriend and this beautiful tall blonde babe is coming down the street and YOU take a good look at her, does that mean your flirting with her. Will never know, Right! Grow up’ man. Same crap.

  76. By cobra on Sep 4, 2012 | Reply

    john the draft guy:
    Tannehill has nothing to do with our QBs this season. Time to let it go.

    Scott H:
    Maybe Skelton was chosen so he wouldn’t over throw the WRs on long routesl.

    Grandpa 55:
    Kolb is as most say, west coast offense QB.

    As far as other QBs in FA, there are times when you need to retire. AZ is not where you will find a job this year.

    Then again, there’s alway’s next year!

  77. By Mr Robles on Sep 4, 2012 | Reply

    Thanks Darren

  78. By wheele27 on Sep 4, 2012 | Reply

    Whats there to sulk about when you can take almost 20 million from an organization without giving back a single good game in return?

    Yeah, I know it’s the team’s fault for paying this guy, and I would be much worse than Kolb on the field.

    But I would never sign a contract for millions of dollars and totally fail to live up to any expectations. Can’t wait til this guys back in his home town backing up the started on his semi pro football team

  79. By txcardsfan on Sep 4, 2012 | Reply

    go get garrard, trade kolb for orton or hasselbeck. I HOPE I EAT MY WORDS BUT SKELTON IS NOT THE ANSWER!!!!

  80. By buddy the town winner on Sep 5, 2012 | Reply

    Even as a rookie he got a chance to learn on the bench and play with established wr and ol. He broke a record for consecutive 300 yrd games. He always got knocked out. You don’t develop a player with demotions and giving him one player to throw to.

    And once we knew kolb had issues why not go get another guy this year? That’s like buying tires for a broken car

    You put kolb in and live or die with him. Coach him up.or is this more about unstable oline and whiz is protecting kolb,his only hope.we wasted a lot of snaps on st pierre years ago.

  81. By levi corrales on Sep 5, 2012 | Reply

    okay everybody keeps saying kolb is a bum……. how is he a bum when he is making more then all you guys , you guys are fans , you guys have no right to judge anybody , yes kolb played poorly , he made alot of mistakes last season , but hes not the reason we lost those games , our team beat themselves , week 2 vs redskins , stucky fumbled the ball , on a game winning drive , redskins won by one point , week 3 when the game was on the line , kolb thru a horrible int. week 4 against the giants i believe. the refs made a horrible call claiming “the reciever gave himself up , the whistle was never blown so it was still a “live play” the cardinals went thru alot last year ….. john skelton won the starting job because he has a quicker release then kolb , more poise in the pocket, and a stronger arm…. last year the put up identical stats , both threw for over 1900 yards , skelton threw more TDS and Kolb threw less INTs….neither guy set himself away from eachother…. they are both good Qb’s i dont care what anybody has to say….and for the Ryan Lindley chants….stopp trying to name a new starting Qb every single week … ryan lindley is still young with alot of potential. he threw for over 400-500 yards in the preseason …what i like about him is his ability to move in the pocket away from pressure nd get rid of the ball , but his accuracy needs alot of work, he over threw a few wide open recievers , like in the HOF game , he had a wide open running back nd he over threw him , the game would of been tied up , nd against the chiefs , he threw a INT on 2nd and goal i think ……. no matter who plays or who doesnt play , ima be supporting my team ……..GO BIRDGANG!!!! Cardinal Nation Baby!!!!

  82. By levi corrales on Sep 5, 2012 | Reply

    at the whole arguement about about the titans game , its just social media , i seen the game , and when kolb threw the INT john skelton was by the OC looking at plays , theres a difference when you see highlights and you actually see the game , skelton was smiling and talking to the OL when Ryan Lindley was playing , the media just wants to add gas to the fire and make skelton the bad guy , the same way they would of made it look if they seen kolb laughing …..okay look in the HOF game when KOlb got hurt , John skelton went to shake Kolbs hand and the media put it out that “kolb dissed skelton” the guy just had a DE on top of him , he got hurt nd hes still tryna catch his breath , give the guy some slack , hes not a bad person , hes a reliable back up !!! and why do people keep saying bring in VY or Mcnabb , nobody wants Mcnabb nd nobody wants to deal with VY nd his OFF the Field issues , when things go wrong VY starts pouting , Mcnabb playing days are over , nobody wants him , if you guys wanna bring in a veteren , then the only guy to look at is matt hasselback , hes the only guy i see who can run a offense at a elite level

  83. By bluepitt on Sep 5, 2012 | Reply

    @john the draft guy,
    You want to pick tits for tats, Skelton has been here way longer than Kolb. even 2 years in a O VS 1 is like a 20yr old to a 10yr old. FACT!!!!!
    Kolb played in a WCO “Based” O most all of his Football life “FACT”
    Kolb over the last 2 years VS Skelton in QB rat and PCT TD vs INT
    KOLB: 76.1rat 81.1rat / 60.8% 57.7% 16TD 15INT “FACT”
    Skelton: 62.3rat 68.9rat / 47.6% 54.9% 13TD 16INT”FACT”
    You can say Andy made him look good but the fact is he still had to go out and do it! Based on those FACTUAL #’s Kolb is the Clear cut better QB
    If skelton has 3 more Picks than TD’s with even 1 more year on Kolb
    in this O, and Kolb has one more TD than picks and a way better % and RAT. Just who needs to be the starter based on your FACTS?
    I think John will hold up better due to no O line, but they each suck in my book and Im forced to root for whoever is in at the time THAT IS A CRAPPY “FACT”

  84. By Eric Hutchins on Sep 5, 2012 | Reply

    THE JACK
    I have said it all a hundred times on other strings, I wont repeat it ALL here but I will say these things:
    1. Myself and 3 other members of my family (3 generations) have played up through division 1 or 2 college football at QB.
    2. I am 49 yrs old and been around football all my life.
    3. IN MY OPINION from watching them play to the limits that someone can do remotely, I believe that Kolb is a better QB now, and, has far more upside. I think Skelton is already playing to his ability and will not significantly improve. I think he is a serviceable backup. I do not think he would win the starting job on 95% of the current NFL teams and I do not think he should start on ours. (we could talk for days about WHY I think so, but, when I read the posts in these strings I feel like the Skelton supporters are watching different games than the ones I have watched so its seems like a waste of time to repeat it all.
    4. Go back and watch the Baltimore game last year, and ask yourself what cost the team that game. THAT game is a perfect example of a game, against a good defense, where I believe Kolb earned the starting position.
    5. I believe that poor coaching decisions with respect to the handling of this position have opened the door for the mess we have. This should NOT have been a competition this year. We should have been all-in (as a coaching staff) behind Kolb, given him all of the first team reps, given him the MAX time behind the 1’s, and go into the season with some momentum and confidence.
    Instead, as a result of this decision, we go into the season with two ill prepared QB’s, the one with less, pure talent, starting, and zero continuity an momentum.
    AND
    I like Whiz
    I just think he blew this one badly

  85. By Eric Hutchins on Sep 5, 2012 | Reply

    And I can’t believe I even have to add this but, while Lindley may be a fine project, the people that think he is ready for prime time NFL football as the starter are just completely clueless.

  86. By bluepitt on Sep 5, 2012 | Reply

    @Eric Hutchins,
    You nailed it! I think Whiz has miss handled a couple QB show downs. If you say he’s the “guy” then that needs to be how it is! Until he blows it by poor reg. season play. I have played to a purty high level my self, and have seen the same things.
    Kolb did flash in a couple games last year with the crappiest D I have had the pleasure of watching. In come Hyde (skelton) He has not had consistent play “Ever” he cant play 3 quarters at all, He did have one of the best D’s i’ve seen in a while saving him. Here is my biggest point and you know this is true if you indeed played to the level’s you say.
    It is 1,000,000.00 X easer to play as the back up with no expectations comming from Fordham, with actual expectations of you doing poor due to lack of experience and he did very poor, not producing at all the 1st 3 quarters of every game played. We have got the chance to see his sealing, it is what it is @ $500,000.00 a year.
    You also know the chance we will see a great couple games from him to start is very likely due to his promotion, but when the dust settles he will revert right back to his sealing. Kolb has a higher sealing if he is kept healthy and learns to work the pocket rather than fear it!
    Opinion?

  87. By buddy the town winner on Sep 5, 2012 | Reply

    The point is they both suck and u commit to the guy with up side. Becuase he is young with drc and a pick talent you are able to fix his problems.if you fire his position coach u admit there was some error in instruction. The day he was signed whiz knew footwork was different and the playbook was not ammeneded to fit kolb.even with money committed. I hate whiz the more I think about this. He failed us and graves too!

  88. By Eric Hutchins on Sep 5, 2012 | Reply

    Bluepitt,
    I think you are spot on (unfortunately).
    A Much easier to stay relaxed as the back up and have a few moments. AND its not like they blew anyone out with him at the wheel, they squeaked by on special teams and defense and a few miracles.
    B He will probably show a flash or two in the first but once things start to go badly, Katey bar the door.
    C. I don’t blame Kolb as much as everyone else regarding leaving the pocket, This guy jumps out of trees with a knife in his teeth and kills wild boars, he is not afraid of some dumbass raider lineman (I have relatives in Stephenville and am up that way all the time). When I watch him play I see someone desperately trying to make something happen, with one of the worst O-Lines in the league. TOO desperate yes, too careless yes but still SO much better than what i see in Skelton. I have watched Kolb play through college. He has it. He just does.

    I am sorry Buddy but i do not agree with you, I think the Kolb pick up was a good one, I think that with a good o-line and a running game and reps he would flourish. What I am angry with Graves about is not getting serious about our O-line which has been our fundamental weakness forever. All the yeah-hoos want to talk about is QB, but that rarely has been main problem.

  89. By buddy the town winner on Sep 5, 2012 | Reply

    Kolb was a good pick he just didn’t get a good situation.scatter brain coach roster changes. I don’t blame kolb because we all know what he was.no pun intended

  90. By bluepitt on Sep 6, 2012 | Reply

    @Eric Hutchins,
    I agree!!!
    How about Graves telling every one after 2008 that the staff was commited to keping our “Core” players and then only #90,24 & 11 are still on the roster!
    What a joke!!! 3 Players dont make a core!!!!! #81,94,15,21,58,74,29 I can go on and on are all gone, and we wer going to do what the last 2 years???? hahaha
    Well we will see, I pray Im dead wrong…

  91. By KKFan on Sep 8, 2012 | Reply

    @ John the draft guy,
    You asked what some of us see in Kolb. What I see in him today is not what I saw in him watching him throughout some of his collage career and during his time in Philly.

    There he was a very confident effective Qb. A guy who could make all the throws with accuracy and made smart decisions . A guy who could fit in the system that they ran . Once he became COMFORTABLE ( key word there) and the game slowed down for him.

    Did he have some bad performances when he first arrived in Philly. Of course he did, what rookie doesn’t? But he kept his nose in the play book and his butt in the film room and learned to develope a knowlege and understanding of the offense.

    When Mcnabb was injured with a rib injury in 2010 he almost beat the SB Champions Saints . He made a rookie mistake that cost them the game in the final minutes of the game.

    The following season he was named the starter. But unfortunately he got his first concussion and was never again given the opportunity to win the starting job back.Pretty much for the same reasons as this coaching staff . Going with the guy who they feel gives them the best chance to win NOW. The guy with the extended time in this offense (though in Philly it was the guy who had the most starting experi nce). The guy who has developed a chemistry with these players. That is after all the objective of every team . To win big, and win now.

    Since joining this team , I see in kolb a guy who’s confidence is shakey. A guy who is probably somewhat disillusioned by the way things have gone for him thus far. (understandable) But I also see a guy who is a fighter. Who will not give up easily. But has accepted the demotion (for the present) with dignity and class. A guy who has decided to do his very best to be supportive of John and the team, and organization.

    Maybe Whiz realizes the unfairness to the situtation they put him in last season, With little to no time to prepare (off season) , to get to know his team mates and the system. He had veturally no realistic chance what so ever to be successful,under those circumstances. And even more so with an O line that has more holes in it than swizz cheese.

    So for the Kolb critics, I ask what in all HONESTY did you expect that man to be abe to do?

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