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Next up for a contract

Posted by Darren Urban on September 6, 2012 – 12:32 pm

With the news Daryl Washington got a contract extension, it changes the list of who might be next up for the Cardinals on the contract front. The obvious and probable choice is running back LaRod Stephens-Howling, who is scheduled to be an unrestricted free agent after the season and is a player whom general manager Rod Graves has already said is a target for a new deal. We’ll see if that comes to fruition, but the way the NFL is these days, a back who fills the Hyphen’s role is important to have.

Beyond that? The Cardinals have done a good job managing contracts at this point. Extensions are usually only there for younger players who you don’t want to hit the open market. Older veterans who play a role usually don’t get anything done until after the season and even then, after free agency arrives — if the team is going to bring them back at all. So some of the guys scheduled to be free agents after the season — defensive linemen Vonnie Holliday and Nick Eason, tight end Todd Heap, safety James Sanders, linebacker Quentin Groves, tackle D’Anthony Batiste — probably aren’t going to get into talks until later.

One intriguing name is linebacker Paris Lenon, but he likely falls into the previous category, even as he is about to start for a third straight season and was named captain again. Lenon said he thinks he has more in the tank for beyond 2012, but we’ll see if the Cards’ front office has thoughts that dovetail with that. Beyond Lenon, there are younger guys like linebacker Reggie Walker and defensive backs Rashad Johnson and Michael Adams. I don’t see any of them getting new deals in season.

Other than that, the Cards are in good shape through 2013 in terms of key guys under contract. I know some are asking about Patrick Peterson, but he’s already under contract through 2015. He’ll have to be locked up before then, but there is plenty of time for that.


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40 Responses to “Next up for a contract”

  1. By Dave on Sep 6, 2012 | Reply

    Hmmm. I like the new proactive mindset. When does Skelton’s contract expire anyway?

  2. By LadyCard04 on Sep 6, 2012 | Reply

    Hope they can work something out with LSH. He’s been one of my favorites since his draft day interview.
    Re: Patrick Peterson – as you said he is locked up for quite awhile with his Rookie Contract and he still has to show major skills at CB – he is growing into the role but with our offense we need his defensive abilities to take a big jump over last year before we start negotiations on another contract.

  3. By Rugbymuffin on Sep 6, 2012 | Reply

    Darren I agree, the Cardinals are in good shape:

    Forgive me for any innaccuracies, but in () is the years left on the players contract.

    John Skelton – (2)
    Kevin Kolb – (4)
    Ryan Lindley – (4)
    Chris Wells – (2) *option
    Ryan Williams – (3)
    LaRod Stephens-Howling – (1)
    William Powell – (1)
    Anthony Sherman – (3)
    Larry Fitzgerald – (7)
    Michael Floyd – (4)
    LaRon Byrd – (3)
    Andre Roberts – (2)
    Early Doucet – (2)
    Jeff King – (2)
    Todd Heap – (1)
    Rob Housler – (3)
    Jim Dray – (2)
    D’Anthony Batiste – (1)
    Nate Potter – (4)
    Bobby Massie – (4)
    Pat McQuistan – (1)
    Daryn Colledge – (4)
    Senio Kelemete – (4)
    Adam Snyder – (5)
    Rich Ohrnberger – (1)
    Lyle Sendlein – (4)
    Dan Williams – (3) *Option
    Nick Eason – (1)
    Calias Campbell – (5)
    Vonnie Holliday – (1)
    Darnell Dockett – (4)
    David Carter – (3)
    Sam Acho – (3)
    Quentin Groves – (1)
    O’Brien Schofield – (2)
    Jamaal Westerman – (?)
    Paris Lenon – (1)
    Stewart Bradley – (4)
    Daryl Washington – (6)
    Reggie Walker – (2)
    William Gay – (2)
    Jamell Flemming – (4)
    Patrick Peterson – (3)
    Greg Toler – (1)
    Michael Adams – (1)
    Kerry Rhodes – (2) *option
    James Sanders – (1)
    Justin Bethel – (4)
    Adrian Wilson – (4)
    Rashad Johnson – (1)
    Jay Feely – (2)
    Dave Zastudil – (2)
    Mike Leach – (3)
    Levi Brown – (5)
    Jeremy Bridges – (1)
    Richard Bartel – (1)
    Javarris James – (1)

  4. By Darren Urban on Sep 6, 2012 | Reply

    Rugby –

    RE: Years left

    I’ll take your word. I just scanned to see who was up this year.

  5. By cdj on Sep 6, 2012 | Reply

    this is also good as it encourages players to work hard and not hold out and if they are a little patient they will get that extension

  6. By carlo milano on Sep 6, 2012 | Reply

    darren
    is coming a press conference abour washington contract extension?

  7. By Darren Urban on Sep 6, 2012 | Reply

    Carlo –

    RE: DWash

    He will talk after practice. We’ll have video up later.

  8. By Christo on Sep 6, 2012 | Reply

    Good shape for what my friends?

    We were a fluky 8 Win team last year and are 13 and 19 in our last 2 seasons.

  9. By AndyStandsUp on Sep 6, 2012 | Reply

    If Skelton has a year where he stays starter (which effectively kicks Kolb and his 9 mil to the curb) you’d have to think he’s due for a big raise.

    ….unless they want to look at the FA market next season and look at Joe Flacco or Matt Schaub and assume the Kolb contract didn’t leave too bitter a taste.

    Another possiblity could be Lindley if John and Kevin struggles.

    Or there’s always the option they can lure McNabb from the broadcast booth.

    Don’t Aaron Rodgers and Tom Bradys grow on trees?

  10. By AndyStandsUp on Sep 6, 2012 | Reply

    Also noticed the non-mention of Beanie Wells.
    I realize the RB position is going the way of the postal service and intelligent comments from cobra but you know he’s gonna be wanting a big contract soon.

  11. By vegas4u2012. on Sep 6, 2012 | Reply

    Congrats.to D.Wash.for a contract well deserved.Your a fantastic player w/a great attitude.I’ts nice to finally shut up those that said the Bidwells do not take care of their players/staff.You will still have good players,like Marshall,whom flew the nest to Miami.But as long as the front office replaces them w/a player of equal or better talent,thats fine.-GO BIG RED!

  12. By chad on Sep 6, 2012 | Reply

    Darren,

    Q: How much will Levi Brown make this year sense he is on I.R.? Also will it count against are salary cap?

    Reason asking is because, I thought if it wont count against the cap that management could pay some more this year to a bigger contract; so we have more flexibility in the future.

  13. By Peter in Canada on Sep 6, 2012 | Reply

    I just got back from 17 days in U.K. and I was shocked to read that a rookie QB beat out Flynn. The people who are complaining about the Kolb signing, and I was one who thought they paid too much in money and players, should realize that any team without the elite QB’s have to take risks to get better and sometimes get burned. No risk no reward.
    Darren -
    The tackle situation, on the surface looks pretty bleak. Have Massie and Batiste done o.k. or will we be struggling in pass protection?

  14. By Darren Urban on Sep 6, 2012 | Reply

    AndyStands –

    RE: Beanie

    He’s under contract through 2013 and not quite in the same position as Washington.

  15. By Darren Urban on Sep 6, 2012 | Reply

    Chad –

    RE: Brown/IR

    Anyone on IR gets his regular contract and it counts the same on the cap as if he was on the roster.

  16. By Darren Urban on Sep 6, 2012 | Reply

    Peter –

    RE: Tackles

    Obviously we will have to see. But there is a lot of unknown there and the odds are probably tall.

  17. By KurtM on Sep 6, 2012 | Reply

    Hey Darren do you know of any lingering contracts (players we cut or got rid of) that are still hitting the salary cap. Where can I find something that will show who is still hitting the cap? Thanks

  18. By Darren Urban on Sep 6, 2012 | Reply

    KurtM –

    RE: “Dead” money

    I am sure there is some dead money, but I don’t have that list. I don’t think there is any public site that has that either.

  19. By AzDesertRat1953 on Sep 6, 2012 | Reply

    Nobody is going to let LS-H go, the Man is to fast, to good and just one of the best kickoff returners we have. IMHO

    GO CARDS!!!

  20. By Mark on Sep 6, 2012 | Reply

    is it septmeber 9th yet? Go Cardinal’s!!!!!!

  21. By AzDesertRat1953 on Sep 6, 2012 | Reply

    One more thing. I wonder how many at ESPN, NFL Network, and All the others are Eating Crow Now.

    What is it now 67 sell outs in a row!!!

    Thanks to the State of Arizona, and the Bidwells.

    GO CARDS!!!

  22. By Rugbymuffin on Sep 6, 2012 | Reply

    @Christo

    For contracts maybe ? You know what the ENTIRE blog is about here ?

    I get your point, but come on.

  23. By Rugbymuffin on Sep 6, 2012 | Reply

    @KurtM –

    From what I read the Cardinals have about 3.2 million in dead money.

  24. By david on Sep 6, 2012 | Reply

    Wheb does whiz’s contact expire?

  25. By Darren Urban on Sep 6, 2012 | Reply

    David –

    RE: Whiz

    He is under contract through 2013, with a team option for 2014.

  26. By Scott H on Sep 6, 2012 | Reply

    Oh, man, looking forward to FRIDAY BEFORE THE SEAHAWKS!!!! Football is back and all is right with the world.

  27. By D on Sep 6, 2012 | Reply

    Since we are talking about the future, I would like to see the following:
    The Cards have talent in all areas of the team- the team really has only two holes if the roster stays healthy and plays to their potential. Those holes are on the Oline and QB positions. This team will have a better year than a Cleveland, Rams, Jacksonville and a few others, meaning I don’t see a way they will be in the running for Matt Barkley (Jags and Browns won’t pass up a QB) I see AZ around the 10 spot in the draft next year, so here is an early look at potentially could be the first 4 rounds of the Card’s draft in the spring.

    Round 1–Logan Thomas QB VT. (Barkley and Wilson probably will be gone)
    Round 2-Dallas Thomas Left Tackle TEN. (can compete with Levi next year)
    Round 3-Datone Jones DE Ucla–need a younger DE backup to replace Dockett in 2yr
    Round 4-Omoregie Uzzi RG- GA Tech–Adam Synder was a bad signing.
    thanks

  28. By georgiebird on Sep 6, 2012 | Reply

    Darren,
    Outside of PP, there are no Cardinals that I would want to go long term with. Even the DW signing is a gamble. If DW should make a couple of All-Pros during his extended contract, he could be considered the greatest Cardinal LB of All-time.
    For an extended period of time, Ronald McKinnon is considered the best MLB. He was an undrafted FA overachiever who played about 10 years in StL-not a Pro-Bowler. The best outside linebacker is generally considered to be Ken Harvey who made 4 All-Pros after being traded to the Redskins (none with Cards as a situational pass rusher). While we are all rooting for DW, the odds against him are monumental.

  29. By Louisville Card on Sep 7, 2012 | Reply

    @georgiebird

    Why does it not surprise me that you wouldn’t want any of the cards young players, and you think DW shouldn’t have got an extension? Really he’s only one of the top 10 ILB in the league why keep him? You and cardsalltheway need to pick a new team if you dislike the team and coach so much…

  30. By Dynosoar on Sep 7, 2012 | Reply

    Darren,

    What percentage of an NFL stadiums seating needs to sell for the game to be considered a sellout?

    Did I read 67 straight games correctly, that’s sweet sounding to my ears. AZ Desert Rat has it right on in his post above.

    What teams have longer sellout streaks than our Cardinals and how many games have they sold out? Someone once told me the Packers have had a continuous sellout streak since 1958. If true, that’s incredible. Ahhh, those silly cheeseheads (my sons one of them), they sure do love their team.

    And I love mine, Cards all the way to NO!

  31. By Cactus jeff on Sep 7, 2012 | Reply

    I for one am tired of hearing about how good the Seahawks defense is…..I’ll take the Cardinal defense any day of the week. Lynch is way overrated, I’ll take Williams or Beanie. Special teams, no comparison. Key to the game, not turnovers, NUMBER OF HOLDING PENALTIES. If they keep it under 2, they win. If they want to run, don’t hold!

  32. By cardsalltheway on Sep 7, 2012 | Reply

    “The Cardinals have done a good job managing contracts at this point.”

    OL contracts haven’t been much of a concern so it leaves more time and $$$ to deal with other contracts.

  33. By Darren Urban on Sep 7, 2012 | Reply

    Dynosaur –

    RE: Sellout

    I believe the team needs to sell all of its non-premium seats — I don’t think suites, for instance, are included. I don’t have the sellout streaks.

  34. By Mike T on Sep 7, 2012 | Reply

    I had orginally thought the Cardinals might work on Lenon’s contract before they got to Washington. Mainly because I didn’t think they had the money to redo Washington’s contract. However the restructing of Wilson’s contract changed all of that. Washington needs to take Wilson out to dinner because that money most likely came from Wilson’s reworked deal. As for Lennon, I wouldn’t be shocked to see him sign a two year extension in the next couple of months.

  35. By Dynosoar on Sep 7, 2012 | Reply

    I found this, but haven’t found anything further.

    (I have found the Redskins and Cowboys both claiming the longest streaks, like the Steelers claiming to be the best with 6 SB wins, ignoring GB’s 13 championships. I guess we all put blinders on for our teams.)

    Current Sellout Streaks (ten plus one)

    Green Bay, Lambeau Field = 374 Those cheeseheads r loyal
    Washington, FedEx Field = 364
    Pittsburgh, Invesco Field at Mile High = 335
    Denver, Heinz Field = 325
    San Francisco, Candlestick Park = 301
    NYG, Giants Stadium = 288
    NYJ, Giants Stadium = 280
    Chicago, Soldier Field = 234
    New England, Gillette Stadium = 194
    Dallas, Ugh! = 193

    Arizona, UofP stadium = 67

    We’ve got a ways to go, but I like the direction we’re heading, both with players, coaches, staff and fans.

  36. By clssylssy on Sep 7, 2012 | Reply

    Georgiebird…LOL!…you have to be the official grim reaper abd it wouldn’t be footballl season without you…If you are lucky fans will chip in and buy you a bus ticket to SF where you might like a player or two of half of the Harbaugh Bros!…you make me laugh!
    On a more serious note…now that the Vilma and Smith are back in uniform with the Saints, that will mean they have to cut two players…*wink, wink*…hope the Cards are on their toes and are quick to move if the two men out happen to be good 0-linemen or even a DT:) GO CARDS FLY HIGH AND DRIVE THE SEACHICKENS OUT TO SEA!

  37. By Derrick Haskan on Sep 8, 2012 | Reply

    I love this team LETS GO CARDINALS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  38. By cardsalltheway on Sep 8, 2012 | Reply

    Dynosoar,
    I highly doubt our current head coach will be on the sidelines for 100, IF the streak lasts that long.

  39. By jmh1982 on Sep 8, 2012 | Reply

    Every game since the opening of UofP stadium has been a sellout. So I would say that we are definitely heading in the right direction.

  40. By jmh1982 on Sep 8, 2012 | Reply

    That same 67 game sellout streak is also the amount of games that the Cards have played in UofP Stadium. Which is also a big reason why the Bidwill’s can afford to keep all these players around.

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