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Skelton questionable and Kolb’s family question

Posted by Darren Urban on September 21, 2012 – 1:16 pm

Quarterback John Skelton was limited again Friday with his sore ankle and will be questionable for the game. Kevin Kolb figures to start against the Eagles — the only reason I say “figures” is because coach Ken Whisenhunt didn’t actually declare it to be true — but even he has a factor involved in his playing. Kolb’s wife is due with their third child Oct. 4, but at this point, you never know when a baby will come. It’s possible it could come on a Sunday, and Kolb is very aware of it.

“I’m just hoping it doesn’t present itself, let’s put it that way,” Kolb said. “I don’t want to have to make that decision. I care about both obviously. I would have to lean toward seeing my baby be born, but that’s a long shot (having a conflict) so hopefully it doesn’t present itself.”

Asked the perfect scenario of the birth, Kolb smiled. “The perfect scenario is right after meetings Monday, so I have a day-and-a-half off. But I don’t make the rules, God does. We’ll see what happens.”

Interestingly, the Cards have a game on Oct. 4, a Thursday. That’s the night they play in St. Louis on NFL Network. But by then, Skelton figures to be much healthier too.

– Speaking of Skelton getting healthier and the reoccurring question of this time — who will start at QB when Skelton is healthy again — coach Ken Whisenhunt told “NFL AM” that “it’s going to be the same thing we always do, we’re going to go with the player that we think gives us the best chance to win. Kevin has done exactly what we expected him to do, and that’s come in and played well. I don’t have any expectation of John than wanting to get back healthy and compete for the job. Once we get to that point, we’ll make that decision.”

– Besides Skelton, the Cards have a handful of other players questionable: TE Todd Heap, G Adam Snyder, S James Sanders, S Adrian Wilson and S Rashad Johnson.

– Speaking of Heap, Patriots safety Steve Gregory was fined $7,875 for the late hit on Heap that caused Heap’s knee injury. Patriots linebacker Jerod Mayo was fined $21,000 for hitting a defenseless receiver in the head/neck area, after he blasted Early Doucet last weekend. Doucet hung on to the ball. Mayo didn’t launch himself on the play, keeping his feet on the ground, but he definitely got Doucet high (I remember thinking that at the time.) Mayo was not penalized. Gregory was.


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34 Responses to “Skelton questionable and Kolb’s family question”

  1. By SteveG on Sep 21, 2012 | Reply

    Will the Oct. 4th game be on local TV for those that do not get NFL network??

  2. By AJW3 on Sep 21, 2012 | Reply

    I know some disagree….but I feel that a 100% healthy John Skelton keeps his job. Maybe on a shorter leash though.

  3. By Darren Urban on Sep 21, 2012 | Reply

    SteveG –

    RE: Oct 4 game on local TV

    Probably, but I do not know for sure.

  4. By AJW3 on Sep 21, 2012 | Reply

    P.S. I sense a big, big ,big day for P. Peterson.

  5. By Travis on Sep 21, 2012 | Reply

    Leashes?! we don’t need no stinking leashes! When John is healthy he should be the starter. When Whiz named him starter it was because John gives us the best chance to win. Just because he is out and we have won, dosen’t mean Kevin is the new starter. He is doing a great job as the backup, couldn’t/shouldn’t ask for more.

  6. By johnnybluenose on Sep 21, 2012 | Reply

    if you have confidence in your quarterback, regardless of who it is, you cannot have him on a short lease. no one was talking about benching peyton manning when he threw three picks in the first half on sunday and neither skelton nor kolb can be expected to play well if he has to always worry about being pulled if he makes some bad plays. your quarterback is your quarterback unless he is too injured to play effectively. let us all hope we have an undisputed number one quarterback and a capable back-up. the competition for quarterback should be over now. i have my own opinion as to who that should be but my opinion counts for nothing.

  7. By sarah on Sep 21, 2012 | Reply

    http://www.fieldgulls.com/2012/9/12/3321242/the-seahawks-halftime-adjustments-the-pass-rush-on-john-skelton

  8. By dont run d wash's way on Sep 21, 2012 | Reply

    Darren i’ve been waiting for the “wired” videos to be posted. are you guys not doing that this year? i hope so cause those videos fire me up

  9. By sarah on Sep 21, 2012 | Reply

    [youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRD3ScHO5MQ&w=560&h=315%5D

    Philly catch 2011

  10. By Darren Urban on Sep 21, 2012 | Reply

    Don’t Run –

    RE: Wired

    We are. Let me check into that.

  11. By wonderingwhy on Sep 21, 2012 | Reply

    As much as I am not a Kolb fan I think he has his heart in the right spot. He needs to be there for the birth of his child. The football life will go away eventually and you don’t want to look back and remember you chose football over your child. Good luck with the family Kolb.

  12. By Jason Marcus on Sep 21, 2012 | Reply

    I know we have two talented guys at qb but it is frustrating to have the inconsistency and never know who’s better suited to do what , I mean its like a real two headed monster I feel we can win with both it is a unique situation

  13. By rdixon50 on Sep 21, 2012 | Reply

    Please not Sunday morning, Mrs Kolb. Nor next Suday nor the follwing Thursday. But John s/b ok by the Dolphins game on the 30th.

  14. By Andy Kw on Sep 21, 2012 | Reply

    If Kolb can beat the Eagles, then he should be the starting Quarterback for the rest of the season. If Skelton does start and can get Fitzgerald the ball, then he should start for the rest of the season. Let me establish this, WHOEVER can get Larry Fitzgerald the ball should be the starting QB. If I see Larry Fitzgerald get over 100yds and a touchdown against the Eagles with Kolb starting, I will almost be sold on him. If Kolb can offensively improve the Card’s offense against the Eagles, he should establish himself as a franchise QB. If Skelton starts next week and wins the game then there is a huge Quarterback controversy which is a good thing knowing that any of our Quarterbacks can win games. But no matter what happens, this season will be a season to remember.

  15. By DontTakeLoses on Sep 21, 2012 | Reply

    “When Whiz named him starter it was because John gives us the best chance to win. ” That was then, now is now. Whiz made it clear, he’ll pick the QB who gives us the best chance to win… this Sunday, not 3 weeks ago. It is what it is. Get used to it.

  16. By Geode1953 on Sep 21, 2012 | Reply

    Go with the Birth of your child KK, that will be the Best Event in your life, not even a SB can stand up to seeing/helping with the Birth of your Children!

    Go AzCardinals!

    Family First, end of line.

  17. By Kevin S on Sep 21, 2012 | Reply

    Johnnybluenose —

    If “your quarterback is your quarterback until he is too injured to play effectively,” then by that logic, Whiz could simply have said, at the end of last year, hey, the only reason Skelton ever got to play was Kolb’s injuries (the turf toe and then the concussion). Therefore, Kolb is still the starter, and that’s it.

    Would the Skelton backers who were demanding a legit QB competition have accepted that? I have a feeling they would’ve been all over this board saying that this was unfair. Heck, many of them assumed — wrongly — that the competition this training camp and preseason was not legitimate and that Kolb would simply be named the starter to justify the team’s investment. Whiz proved them wrong by naming Skelton the starter, but made it clear he was the Week 1 starter, not the starter for the year.

    So, my question: why is it OK for Skelton to win the job from Kolb, but not for Kolb to win it back? And, perhaps another question: since Kolb was named the starter in Philly before getting injured in his first start vs. GB, putting Vick into action, do you think it was wrong, given how well Vick played, for the team not to stick with him even after Kolb was healthy enough to return?

  18. By cardsalltheway on Sep 21, 2012 | Reply

    “Patriots linebacker Jerod Mayo was fined $21,000 for hitting a defenseless receiver in the head/neck area,”

    Without looking at it after knowing Mayo got fined, what I remember is that it was such a bang, bang, play I’m not sure Mayo could’ve done or hit Doucet anywhere else? What’s the D-fence suppose to do, jump or flip through a hoop before hitting someone? Wasn’t Mayo standing upright? Was he suppose to wait to hit Doucet until he bent down further?

    I would say Brandon Spikes had a choice to hit K. Kolb elsewhere. He was also penalized(unlike Mayo) for roughing the passer but not fined.

  19. By cardsalltheway on Sep 21, 2012 | Reply

    “- coach Ken Whisenhunt told “NFL AM” that “it’s going to be the same thing we always do, we’re going to go with the player that we think gives us the best chance to win.”

    QB DEFLECTION: The problem is that what “we” think and for whatever irrational reasoning ain’t always the best as proof positive with our RB’s ~ think William Powell ~ Cuckoo Cukoo Cuckoo for white puff fantasies.

  20. By dennis on Sep 21, 2012 | Reply

    The Key of course is to keep Vick contained in the pocket and if he escapes make him run to his right. Will D. Washington “spy” him for the game?

  21. By johnnybluenose on Sep 21, 2012 | Reply

    Kevin S. all i am saying is you have to have a number one qb and you have to stick with him, not forever but you can’t bench him or replace him if he happens to have a few bad series. it’s hard to be a successful qb if you don’t have the confidence of your coach. if kolb lights it up for the next couple of games then i would expect him to be named the starter eventhough skelton is healthy and to not be benched for some poor play. you can easily substitute running backs, linemen, deepbacks etc but i don’t think you can be successful substituting at the quarterback position. nor do i think you can be successful if there is a weekly competition at quarterback. and with whiz being so hesitant to really get behind either kolb or skelton, at least publicly, then it’s hard to know who our quarterback is. please tell me kevin, who is our quarterback come monday morning? i have no idea. but when tony romo went down and jon kitna came in and played very well in relief there was no doubt that romo was the starting qb. no one thought charlie batch was going to take over when big ben had to sit out. we have a very different situation. who is our qb? is it kolb or is it skelton? no one really knows, at least i don’t.

  22. By brad oneill on Sep 21, 2012 | Reply

    Its not like Kolb is lighting it up, John’s job should at least be safe until Kolb has a 400 yard 3 touchdown no interception game. now if that is how sunday goes great, if not I am not going to worry about what ifs.

  23. By Sarah on Sep 22, 2012 | Reply

    Kevin S to Johnnybluenose .

    My head is still spinning from your blurt above, sort of LSAT reasoning run amuck!
    If Kolb starts and wins then great, last week he was ok and not amazing with 125 yards passing and one to Fitz for 4 yards. He needs to put up numbers passing otherwise either QB could run a controlled offense even Lindley. I am thinking Philly will move the ball and stretch our defense, Vick is very mobile.

    Re. above in your comment, Skelton beat Philly last year with some amazing passes.

  24. By vibramnation on Sep 22, 2012 | Reply

    Brad,

    It’s not like when Skelton came in for Kolb last season he had a single 400 yard passing game, in fact he had the second worse QB rating of any starting QB in the NFL last season (trailing only Blaine Gabbert) So let’s not try to hold Kolb to a different standard of QB play than Skelton. To be honest, I’m with bluepitt, I could care less who the starter is, I just want Whiz to show trust in somebody… anybody! I could care less if he has Fitz throwing passes to himself, make a decision WHIZ! If it were my choice, I’d want the guy who can protect the ball. No int’s no fumbles. Both QB’s have struggled with protecting the ball, but I sometime feel like a lot of that has to do with both QB’s pressing and trying to do too much, or too little at times because both know they don’t have the support of the coach.

  25. By clssylssy on Sep 22, 2012 | Reply

    Kevin S et al…don’t you think it’s about time to put all the petty bickering aside over who’s the #1 QB, and think more in terms of team cohesiveness and unity. It seems that the two QBs are OK with playing whoever is healthier and can get the job done and understand the importance of being able to go in and pick up wheN. necessary–it’s called TEAM WORK! GEEZ!
    Darren: What if Skelton still isn’t healthy and Kolb can’t play because of Daddy duty (Congrats Kevin on having your priorities in order; no doubt your mind wouldn’t be on the game if you had to play anyway)…presumeably it would be Lindley bacjkedup by who, Doucet? Is there a plan for such a situation?

  26. By Darren Urban on Sep 22, 2012 | Reply

    Clssy –

    RE: backup

    I’d guess they’d make Skelton active.

  27. By Red cards on Sep 23, 2012 | Reply

    im going to hold kolb to a higher standard than Skelton if you pay some one that much u expect them to play at a higher level if you paid high dollar for some one to come in and work on your house and he did the same job as the cut rate guy I think you might hold him to a hIgher standard ………

  28. By Kevin S on Sep 23, 2012 | Reply

    Clssylssy —

    I support whoever Whiz puts out there. I’m going to the game today, and I would cheer just as loudly if Skelton were in there as Kolb. I am not too worried that the debates on this blog affect the “team cohesiveness and unity.” Come on, we’re fans; half the fun of being a fan is arguing about this stuff.

    Red Cards –

    I don’t disagree with you about holding the higher-paid guy to a higher standard. The dollars are certainly something that should be taken into account when deciding whether to sign a guy in the first place, or whether to retain his services when a contract comes up or there is an opportunity to make a cut and save some money. But, at this point, with the big signing bonus paid to Kolb earlier this year, the money’s been spent (there’s no way they are going to cut him at this point, at least not this year). So if it’s a given that both are on the roster for this year, the question now is simply, which one should play. How much they are paid should have ZERO to do with that question.

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