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Kolb contract an issue, ribs aren’t

Posted by Darren Urban on February 12, 2013 – 8:40 pm

When Michael Bidwill said yesterday on the radio Kevin Kolb’s contract is “probably something we’re going to need to address,” it wasn’t a surprise. Everyone covering this team has been saying the same thing, that the $11 million Kolb is owed in 2013 (a $2 million roster bonus in March and a $9 million salary) was never going to make it through March.

There was always going to be an element of a game of chicken between the sides. The Cardinals need a quarterback, and Kolb knows that. He also knows there are other teams out there that need a quarterback. But even if the Cards are going to slice that salary, he still might make more in Arizona than elsewhere. Given Kolb’s unfortunate injury history, no one is going to hand him a starting job, whether it is the Cardinals or elsewhere.

I have had some questions today about Kolb’s health. When I last spoke to Kolb the day Arians was hired (via text) he said his ribs were doing well. I don’t expect those to hinder him in the offseason, for those worried his 2013 could be in jeopardy. Obviously he has to stay healthy once the games begin, but there shouldn’t be 2012 aftereffects.

I believe Kolb likes the Cardinals and wants to stay, but not at the expense of a better contract. The rules are such that this coaching staff will not get a chance to see Kolb live before contract decisions must be made (although QB coach Freddie Kitchens and GM Steve Keim have both seen Kolb enough to give a proper assessment.)

Kolb hitting the open market wouldn’t be a shock, even if he returns, a la Levi Brown. Kolb’s will-he-or-won’t-he status will be the story of the pre-free agent period.


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52 Responses to “Kolb contract an issue, ribs aren’t”

  1. By fightingbird on Feb 12, 2013 | Reply

    What are the chances Alex Smith is brought in to challenge for the starting job at QB.

  2. By AndyStandsUp on Feb 12, 2013 | Reply

    Kinda wishy-washy on Kolb.
    He was what the former regime deemed needed, yet injuries curtailed success.
    When healthy, seemed skittish and definitely not a pocket passer which Arians has excelled at.
    Don’t see the roster bonus affecting his roster status (date due, Darren?) but “flooding of the QB position” would make sense and trade/release could come later if required.

  3. By Steve on Feb 12, 2013 | Reply

    Darren: We need to consider drafting West Virginia QB Geno Smith if Kolb leaves, or even if he doesnt!

  4. By philly cards on Feb 12, 2013 | Reply

    Vick set the market with is reworked deal. Its terrible maybe 7mill guaranteed down from 17 . These guys are victims of bad coaching. And kolb had both to deal with.

  5. By ken on Feb 12, 2013 | Reply

    go after alex smith. pay kolb as a back up should b paid or cut him no one else wants him. he’s good at times but gets hurt to easy. hes not a starter nor will he ever be

  6. By Tyler on Feb 12, 2013 | Reply

    Correct me if I’m wrong, but I read that his ribs are going to heal behind his sternum. It seems like that would negatively effect the structural integrity of that attachment and make him more likely to have the same injury in the future. Has anything been said about that possibility? The Cardinals would know more about that than anyone else, and if it is a problem, I could see it being a big reason that he would make more money somewhere else, where they know less about the injury.

  7. By bluepitt on Feb 12, 2013 | Reply

    I was reading some pre draft predictions and came across this one on Yahoo:

    7. Arizona Cardinals: Geno Smith, QB, West Virginia, Senior: Although Coach Arians is publicly stating that they are going to work with Kevin Kolb; I believe it is a smoke screen and that the Cardinals will select Smith. A physically gifted quarterback with great football intelligence/instincts, Smith should be able to step in and start as a rookie which would greatly upgrade the Cardinals passing attack and make Larry Fitzgerald happy.

    WHY IS IT THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE A 100MILLIONDOLLLLLOR PLAYER HAPPY? WHY HASN’T HE MADE US HAPPY? HE HAS DROPPED MORE BALLS IN THE LAST 2 YEARS THAN I CARE TO COUNT!! AND YES THEY WERE CATCHABLE BALLS!!!

    I’m sick of hearing LARRY this and LARRY that! He is not the whole team!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  8. By Eazy E on Feb 12, 2013 | Reply

    Why the hell do the Cardinals insist on paying the most overrated and most overhyped QB/player in the league?! Cut him for the love of us Cardinals fans. Get Alex Smith or Tim Tebow and just start over. Build around somebody like that but not Kolb. I hate that Vick resigned which was a smart move by Philly.

  9. By Christo on Feb 13, 2013 | Reply

    You really think Kolb is Bottom 5 at his position?

    Like Levi was or is. We should be talking about restructuring Levi. We enter FA with what is historically, over the past 5 years one of the Bottom 5 LT’s in the League. When there are numerous better options, Albert and Long in FA to name a couple. As well as a draft class stacked, Fisher and Joeckel amongst others.

    There is no doubt we need to restructure Kolb. How are we going to play chicken? Send the Niners a Draft Pick for Alex Smith?

    BUT we should also be restructuring Levi.

  10. By D on Feb 13, 2013 | Reply

    His contract doesn’t get any better for AZ after this year, could be the time to eat 6 mil if his agent wants to play hardball…That will go down as one of the worse contract free agent signings in the last 20 years…20 mil to a player that started less than 50% of the two year span, giving up DRC and a second round pick…that should doom Mr. Graves into never getting a sniff at another GM job….
    The saving grace could be Tom Moore developing a draft pick, a Hoyer and even maybe a D. Stanton….all would have low salaries for thier positions…

  11. By Rich on Feb 13, 2013 | Reply

    well, since we are supposed to talk about it – here goes. without Kolb, any of the names mentioned recently (stanton, hoyer) make no sense as starters. We know skelton and lindley are not starters. letting SF off the Alex Smith contract hook would be wrong (pick him up if he’s released but don’t trade for him). the choices get slim real fast. I like bringing kolb back with a salary reduction (not too much of a reduction). get rid of skelton. bring in hoyer or stanton as a vet backup. draft a qb to compete with lindley as the youngster.

  12. By wonderingwhy on Feb 13, 2013 | Reply

    I say we shore up the oline and put Hoyer in there. We cant aford to see if Kolb is going to brak again. We already know he will, its just a matter of when. Let Kolb go to open market and test his value. This is not a shot a Kolb but he does have a track record of being hurt with eagles and Cardinals.

  13. By D on Feb 13, 2013 | Reply

    If BA goes the young QB route and rebuilds for a couple of years which he has the time to do…wonder if Fitz would ask for a trade…he wants to win a SB and he may not want to wait 3-4 more years…..you would never get back equal value for him for his talent, leadership and what he does off the field. Cards have Floyd and Roberts to build around…and a trade to NE for Gronkowski and a 4th round pick would be good value in return.

  14. By Darren Urban on Feb 13, 2013 | Reply

    Fighting –

    RE: Alex Smith

    Doubt he’d come via trade, and right now, he’s not a free agent.

  15. By Darren Urban on Feb 13, 2013 | Reply

    AndyStands –

    RE: Kolb bonus

    It is reportedly due March 15, three days after the start of free agency.

  16. By Darren Urban on Feb 13, 2013 | Reply

    Tyler –

    RE: Kolb ribs

    Kevin said last year that doctors had told him it wouldn’t affect him playing-wise.

  17. By andre on Feb 13, 2013 | Reply

    the cards need to draft matt barkley asap!

  18. By andre 300 on Feb 13, 2013 | Reply

    Kevn kolb isnt gonna do anything next year. Hes either gonna bring the team down again or just get injured. the team needs QB Matt Barkley or Geno Smith

  19. By conrad on Feb 13, 2013 | Reply

    Cut Kolb unless he acept $100,000.00 for the season is not worth anything more and that is being genorous.

  20. By D on Feb 13, 2013 | Reply

    Fans would not like to lose Larry but if he asks and they can find good value and a trade partner, that would free up cap space (new team would have to redo a deal and he probably would for a Tom Brady)

    This team has more holes than available cap space for the next few years…

  21. By Darren Urban on Feb 13, 2013 | Reply

    D –

    RE: Fitz contract

    If the Cards trade Fitz the cap hit would be prohibitive. Around $15M.

  22. By D on Feb 13, 2013 | Reply

    so, roughly the same amount of cap hit if they cut Kolb, Bradley and Synder?

  23. By Bill L on Feb 13, 2013 | Reply

    Cards will(Bidwill) be Cards……..Can’t pay 11 Million to a starting QB? 11 Million is cheap for a Starting QB!!!……..if not Kolb then who?……..this is the best Starting QB the Cards have………for Pity’s Sake they gave up a one and a two for him………any remaining geniuses claiming part of that Concensus?……..For the fans, if you can’t cry then Laugh!!! Hey, we’ve got a receiver that takes 20 MILLION of Cap Space………a 20 Million receiver with NO QB, NO OL, NO Running game…………..GO LARRY GO!!!!! LOL!!!! The guys who got us her are all gone……this is the new Cards…….It”l be different this time……Trust Me……a Duck, a Rabbi and a Minister walked into this Bar………..LOL!!!!!!!!!

  24. By Darren Urban on Feb 13, 2013 | Reply

    Bill L –

    RE: Receiver

    Which receiver is taking up $20M of cap space? Curious, because it’s no one on the Cardinals.

  25. By erik on Feb 13, 2013 | Reply

    Please God, NO on Alex Smith. It is not going to happen anyways. HE IS NOT A FREE AGENT like everyone seems to think. Feel pretty confident saying Smith will not be here. Did everyone forget his first 7 (or so) years in the league?

    That said, if Kolb won’t restructure, cut him. He is mediocre at best even when healthy. We could have the best O Line in all of football and his (Kolb) instincts would still have him trying to scramble around, which is exactly how he has gotten injured repeatedly five years in a row now.

    The Cardinals appear to be trying for a fresh start, so I would bet if Kolb doesn’t take a significant cut, they will go with a rookie.

  26. By Mike Ellingboe on Feb 13, 2013 | Reply

    @Bluepitt,

    WHY IS IT THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE A 100MILLIONDOLLLLLOR PLAYER HAPPY? WHY HASN’T HE MADE US HAPPY? HE HAS DROPPED MORE BALLS IN THE LAST 2 YEARS THAN I CARE TO COUNT!! AND YES THEY WERE CATCHABLE BALLS!!!

    Not sure what games you’ve been watching, but it’s different from what anyone else has been seeing:

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d82a59232/article/larry-fitzgerald-is-as-surehanded-as-you-think

  27. By Wes on Feb 13, 2013 | Reply

    With a good (top 10 ?) offensive line, how sure are you guys who like Alex Smith that he’d even be better than Kolb ? Alex Smith did great – but he was driving a Rolls Royce. Kevin Kolb went 4-1 with a ’86 Volvo. He is also mobile, Smith is not – anyone recall a guy named Kaepernick replacing him, for this very reason ?
    To me it is a fantasy to assume that Alex Smith is the next Peyton Manning and landing him solves our problems.

  28. By cobra on Feb 13, 2013 | Reply

    bluepitt:

    Re: Fitz dropping balls,

    Maybe you should go out and try to catch all of the MEDICINE BALLS thrown to the recievers last year? My bet is, you would be running scared. All of the recievers dropped too many passes, but what the hell do you expect with what they had to deal with?

  29. By Rio on Feb 13, 2013 | Reply

    I wished there was an over and under on Kolb returning i would

    bet everything that he won’t be back. Heck, he came out of camp last year as second string, miillions of dollars for this guy would be nuts, He is worth maybe
    two million to keep as a back up Quarterback.

    No one else would sign the guy.

  30. By erik on Feb 13, 2013 | Reply

    I made this prediction in another post:

    Skelton will be the only current QB still on the roster come training camp. Not saying he will be starter, but he will stay. Kolb, barring a drastic pay cut, will be gone. Book it!

  31. By dieselbomb on Feb 13, 2013 | Reply

    Of the QB’s arlready on the Roster : Kolb and Hoyer appear to have what the Cards need. Lindley was tossed into the mix and he did his duty; I don’t fault Lindley yet. It was a make-or-break year for Whisenhunt, so he was sacrificed. I wish people wouldn’t put so much on his shoulders. I think he can still be developed and perform in a promising way. With that said, Kolb did a fine job running the two-minute during the 2012-13 season. Translated : The Cards ran it only a few times, some of those times Kolb was already out with the Rib injury. Why didn’t Whiz simply depend on the Two-Minute as the first resort instead of at rare moments? Anyway, Hoyer did quite well for himself and for the team being called-up with just a few weeks on the team before he was sacrificed. If Hoyer had Training Camp and Pre-Season under his belt like normal QB’s, it would be a lot easier for us to see his strengths and weaknesses. By the time Hoyer took the field our OLine had already begun to gel. But that leads me back to Kolb … with the OLine NOW put together ( instead of Kolb taking the beating as he did ) I suspect he’d show-up much better overall. As for skelton? I once was behind him all the way. I’m not against him, but think Kolb and Hoyer ought to be in the mix for Starter. Skelton did not show up well and I think the coaching and approach ran against Skelton’s abilities. I’d like to see if Skelton can flourish under better coaching principles and guidance. If he doesn’t flourish with Arians, Moore & Co. then allow him to test the waters with another team. I just really thing the former Coaching staff ( especially Whiz, Grimm and Miller ) were totally wrong for the Cards – and by extension our QB’s.

  32. By Scott H on Feb 13, 2013 | Reply

    We all know I think in very simple terms. But for me, this SHOULD be a simple situation for the Cardinals to approach with Kolb – either he stays at a significantly reduced and team-friendly salary number or he can be gone altogether. I wanted Kolb here at the time he was available and a QB was depserately needed by this team. Forgive me…I had just endured a season of Derek Anderson and Max Hall, folks. At that point, Kevin Kolb looked like the best friggin QB ever! But to this point, the Cardinals have paid SOOOOO much more than Kolb is worth and they have to stop that bleeding now. If they want to keep Kolb and Kolb wants to stay, fine. But the Cardinals are totally in the driver’s seat with this one and they need to approach it that way. They have every right to require Kolb to take a significantly reduced salary. He doesn’t like it? Fine. See ya. I find it hard to believe anyone out there is gonna invest much in him at this point.

    The Cardinals have nothing to lose here. And I would much rather see money being thrown at Alex Smith at this point than Kevin Kolb.

  33. By iammattyoung on Feb 13, 2013 | Reply

    If Kolb wants to be a MAN, he needs to restructure his deal to one-year deal at HALF of what he’s supposed to be paid this year — an, “Oh yeah? Show us what you got” deal. The fact is, he’s played in half — HALF — of the games he’s been paid to play because he can’t keep himself healthy. A real man would want to prove himself. I hate to break it to the guy, but I don’t think anyone’s falling over themselves to sign him for more than $5 mil/year when a guy like Matt Moore (who has almost identical numbers over the last two years) can be had for less.

  34. By Scott H on Feb 13, 2013 | Reply

    erik -

    I hear ya with your sentiments about Alex Smith. But, really, what else is there??? There is not one individual walking the planet who could POSSIBLY play QB for the Arizona cardinals next year who is not a question mark ranging anywhere in size from medium to double extra-large. Alex Smith is at the very least a starting caliber NFL QB who has had SOME success and is in his prime right now. When ya look at the other possibilities…Alex Smith is looking pretty good to me.

    Yes, he was looking like a bust until the last two seasons. BUT WHAT ABOUT THE LAST TWO SEASONS??? They count. too. If not for a couple of special teams blunders in the 2011 NFC title game, Alex Smith might very well have led the 49ers to a SB win. And if not for an injury this season, he might very well have been there again.

    While Kaepernick, Russel Wilson, and RG3 were stealing the show with their dynamic play-making abilitites, look who won the Super Bowl. Joe Flacco, a pure pocket passer who got it done by making good decisions and getting the ball into the hands of his playmakers. Well, that is what Alex Smith appeared to have become in recent years. And if he is available, I say take the chance.

  35. By dynasty1717 on Feb 13, 2013 | Reply

    Let’s cut Kolb already. Does any Card’s fan actually think we can win a Superbowl with this guy? No chance. So if he is just going to diappoint us with injuries and less than stellar play, why not cut him and take the salary cap hit. I don’t want him even if he DOES restructure his deal. The Kolb experiment has been a disaster. Send him out of town on a rail at the first opportunity. Let’s also say NO to Alex Smith. There is a reason the niners moved him to second string. Let’s draft a QB or 2 in the draft (no one in the first round, talent does not support it) and get 1 new guy in FA. I know many would disagree with this, but I still think we should try to trade for Orton within reason (4th round draft pick?).

  36. By Safety Guy on Feb 13, 2013 | Reply

    I see Hoyer as a potential starter in this. Backup to one of the better QB in the NFL solid training corps in NE, still affordable and could be our leader for years to come.
    One game is not a determining factor agreed but you have to admit after coming in as a Card, spending 2 weeks and putting up some numbers better than prior 11 games?

    Let’s face it, with a Kolb restructure we can still be OK cap wise, with some minor adjustments. To to toss him…. we take a big hit. I still think he can be a viable candidate for QB, just not sure for the long run. His willingness to negotiate will tell all. Comments?

  37. By Chuck 1 on Feb 13, 2013 | Reply

    For the Kolb bashers, do you remember the pummeling that he took in the first Rams game?
    His helmet was turned sideways and he had blood on his face and nose.
    And you write that he can’t stay healthy???
    I would like to see you crushed like he was in that game and others and “stay healthy”.
    Of course he MUST take a significant pay cut. But, to just throw him on the scrap heap is stupid until we see how he can do with a decent OLine.

  38. By BIG RED on Feb 13, 2013 | Reply

    I hope your right on that one, Erik. I’m hoping for the same results.

  39. By Kevin Hevel on Feb 14, 2013 | Reply

    Last season Kolb rode thru the season with his injury, with a fat wallet; ok. Skelton took over, won us a great win over the 49ers a second time, he seemed to fit the program. Started this year and something happened; they all just plain did horrible, kolb physically does not fit a QB standard (injuries) once again he rode thru a season consuming the Cards money. But lets also not forget the our Tackles, Massie and Batiste. They could not give any of our QBs anytime for them to throw ever a mediocre pass. We had a great defense, blocking kicks, great under pressure and many OT wins. A part of our QB failures have to be considered on our Tackles Massie and Batiste. Im sorry but this may be the end of the road for Skelton and Kolb should only be considered 2nd or 3rd string at this point. He’s not at all starter material, good backup consideration; lessen the chance of another injury. Cards should be looking to Alex Smith or rookie Geno Smith. If Alex could get on the free agent list, because there’s no way his coming here as a trade, 49ers would not at all allow that; have their once starter face them 2 time a year, nopes. Alex Smith has come a long way but has that starter experience and determination. Something the Cards could use, experience and determination. As for the rookie Geno Smith, that could be a toss up, but an investment for the next season and you could definitely mold him to be great. As far as Drew Staton goes, only the head coach can truly vouch for him, if Staton fails; that’s going to be a huge blow to HC Arians credibility. Tebow? I don’t think the AZ Cardinals Defense really supports running QBs, besides these young running QBs will regret running so much later. Learn to deal with the pocket first, that will ensure a long term career. Sorry I got off track fans. Go Cards!!

  40. By KKfan on Feb 14, 2013 | Reply

    How can anyone blame the injuries via the beating that Kolb was forced to endure ( due to the lack of interest the coaching staff) put in protecting him with a solid O line, as his fault. NO ONe but Iron Man would have been able to sustain that beating without injury. I’m not so sure he wouldn’t have come out with some serious dents in his armor.

    I also wouldn’t bank on no other team wanting him. He performed very well under Andy Reid. And again where do people get that he sustained MANY injuries when in Philly? He suffered ONE INJURY …a concussion that lasted 1 week. Had Vick not performed as well as he did ( when he came in to replace Kolb) in that opening game, against Green Bay, Kolb would have remained the starter . And would no doubt by now have returned to the quality QB that he was back in collage. Unfortunately the lack of a good offenssive linse has been his achillies heel since being in the pros.

    Kolb I’ve no doubt would be willing to restructure his contract to remain with the team. I doubt that he wants to move his family yet again to another city. Besies Az is pretty close to his own state of Tx, where his family resides.That makes it convienient for his family to visit their parents.

  41. By bluepitt on Feb 14, 2013 | Reply

    @ Mike,
    your article was posted on july 5, 1212 and stated
    “The site looked through the past three years of numbers to determine the receivers with the best “drop rate.” That was their number of “catchable passes” with their number of drops.”

    You still haven’t proven a thing, I said the last 2 years, not the last 4 years your stats are not from the last 2 years!

    @Cobra
    No I would not be running scared, and those Medicine balls Kolb threw in his 4-0 start put him in the top 2 at QBR, LOOK It UP! and look up how many times Fitz was targeted and what he caught!
    Every one in here was all up on Skeltons butt when he cranked off 6 wins in a row and Fits was targeted tons with tons of dropped balls! so witch is it? Did Kolb suck in our 4-0 run and did Skelton suck in his 6 game run?!!!! Because Larry was a non factor in Kolbs 4-2 start! Look up his stats!
    Lets take a peak, Kolb with the top 2 QBR and fitz only catches 36 out of 57 pass going his way???? ENOUGH SAID!!!!If Kolb sucked in that span how was he in the top 2 in QBR at the time?
    It cracks me up when people say some one would be running scared, if they were in the NFL! Not knowing if they have played the game or not, and not knowing the level at witch they have played! Larry is twice the size of the average d back and the same size as most FS &SS in the NFL, so why would he be running scared? You assume more than you know! I’m not going to go over to what level I have played as I have done so several times and don’t need to do it again! ( I played to a higher level than Greg Toller had up to his playing with the cards) oops I did it again!

  42. By truths4all on Feb 14, 2013 | Reply

    In my opinion, Kolb will not (and should not) take a pay cut and force the Cards to release him. Then he is free to sign with KC where Andy Reid would welcome him with open arms and where he can play in a system that matches his skillset best, a WCO system. Kolb played a WCO system all through college, and then with his years at Philly where he found success in Reid’s WCO. When coming to the Cards, they tried to transform his game to a totally alien one where Whisenhunt was hellbent to force a round peg into a smaller square opening.

    BTW, Reid now knows that it was his biggest mistake to hitch his future on Michael Vick. Reid won’t make that mistake again and would see Kolb being a known commodity to help him win in KC.

    By Kolb signing with KC even with the stipulation that it would be another QB competition, who would you really expect Reid to pick to run his WCO, Kolb or Cassel who has gotten zero endorsements from Reid so far and was benched in favor of Brady Quinn for a while last season.

    Of course the Cards could look smart by trading Kolb to KC for Cassel (who is supposed to be a good vertical passing attack QB) plus other considerations since Cassel’s contract for the next year is $7.5 million vs. Kolb’s $9 million salary.

  43. By erik on Feb 14, 2013 | Reply

    Chuck,
    I agree with you that Kolb is a tough SOB, but he has gotten injured everytime he has been given the chance to start going all the way back to his days in Philly.

    Scott,
    Good point on having every QB being a question mark at this point. That being said, as a fan I would just like to take a chance on a rookie over Kolb. I agree that a pocket passer ultimately gets it done better, but Kolb is certainly no pocket passer. He naturally likes to scramble, hence his injury history.

  44. By Mike Ellingboe on Feb 14, 2013 | Reply

    @Bluepitt,

    You said the number of passes he’s dropped in the past two years are more than you care to count. The link shows his numbers up through 2011, which proves your memory from the first of the two years you recalled is faulty. If I could find a link to 2012 I’m sure it would show the same results. Take a look at how many passes are thrown his way that are deemed catchable in comparison to his fellow Pro Bowlers, and his numbers are even more impressive. The passes he’s looking at have no predictable pattern to them at all. I hate to say this, as a loyal Cardinals fan but in hindsight I’m wishing he wouldn’t have resigned with us, and went to New England instead. The numbers he and Brady would have put up together would have ended all arguments about who the best QB/WR in the league are. As it is, both have had to spend the bulk of their careers with teammates they’ve largely had to carry.

    There’s a lot wrong with our current edition, but if everyone on our roster played at Fitz’s level we’d be picking 32nd pretty consistently. You’ve already seen how well we’ve replaced our other superstar WR. For a team short on talent, it doesn’t take too many moves like that to end up back in last.

  45. By Scott H on Feb 14, 2013 | Reply

    KK -

    Your facts are not entirely correct. Kolb went down in week 1 of the 2010 season with a concussion ( was caught from behind by Clay Mathews ) and he was out for more than one week. In fact, it was the very fact that he was out for several weeks that allowed Vick to play himself into a position where the eagles couldn’t sit him down. Not the way he was playing at that time.

    But who cares about his history with the Eagles? Isn’t his history HERE with the Cardinals enough to cause you concerns??? He has started two seasons and finished both of them having spent significant time watching from the sidelines. Pair that with his injury in 2010 in Philly and you have THREE consecutive seasons of that same scenario.

    I’m not sure what you are hoping for with Kolb but i think you are going to great lengths to make excuses for him. The Eagles truly wanted him to be their next QB, but he did not lose that job to injury caused by a bad O-line. He got blown out of the saddle by Michael Vick, period. If the Eagles truly believed Kolb was the guy, they would have never traded him. At the very least, they would have let him battle with Vick for the job in training camp in 2011. Never happened. Vick has pretty much gone in the tank since that 2010 season, but…Kolb hasn’t been any better.

    Kolb’s career and general lack of success is NOT simply explained by bad O-lines, as you claim. He holds the ball too long, tries to do too much, and takes too many hits. Considering his build and tendency toward injuries, that has been a fatal combination.

    With a resume of injuries during the past 3 consectuive seasons, what value do you think he has? I may be wrong, but if I owned a team right now, I wouldn’t give Kolb any more than a 1-year deal to come in and compete for the starting job in camp. Period. I don’t think anyone is gonna hand him the starting job from the door and I DEFINITELY don’t think anyone is giving him a muli-year deal.

  46. By cobra on Feb 14, 2013 | Reply

    bluepitt:

    Yeah, you did it again. I really don’t care what level of Football you played. Apparently you suffered a concussion worse than Kolb, because what you say doesn’t add up. Who cares what Skelton did 2 years ago? You should check out my, Skelton is lucky if he can hit the barn theory. It started 2 years ago. Maybe that’s why our recievers may be a little skidish. Did you read Darrens next aricle? Ryan Williams was running scared? It has a lot to do with the state of the O-line.
    This reflects on the whole offense, QBs, running backs and recievers.

  47. By BIG RED on Feb 14, 2013 | Reply

    Ask far as I’m concern, I’m tired of hearing all this crap of Kolb. Best thing to do is send him packing asap. The only good thing he knows is the way he works on the Cardinals wallet. Good riddens!

  48. By clssylssy on Feb 15, 2013 | Reply

    Alex Smith has asked to be traded so whether or not he is a free agent, is somewhat of a technicality…more than likely, if he makes a big enough issue about not wanting to stay with the 9ers, they will trade him, not so sure they would trade him to a division rival though. Geno Smith is ranked #1 in the draft by most sources and KC has the first pick, whether or not he still available when it’s the Card’s turn to pick is doubtful as the Jags are also in need of a QB as are other teams, although that would be quite a nice coup for the new coaching staff to pull off. Andy Reid normally builds his offensive and defensive lines first, so I’m not sure that the Chiefs would go after Geno with their first pick. The best scenario II’ve heard for Cards is a Drew Stanton (not sure how the new HC would pull this off considering the Colt’s recent experience with PM), Matt Barkley (not a fan of USC products), John Skelton or Brian Hoyer combination. Hoyer doesn’t have the size and Skelton at 6’5″ could be “moulded” by our inhouse wizards to be a serviceable backup, he knows the lay of the land and is going to be cost effective but again there is the “baggage” factor. Like Skelton, Kolb has too much baggage,but will cost the Cards somewhere in the neighborhood of $11M if not cut before the deadline, a lot of $$$ against the cap which could help beef up that O-line or bring in a good RB. Kolb has played LESS THAN 50% of the games he was contracted for…something like 15/32…where else could a person keep their job if they only showed up less than half the time to perform their duties? While his health may not be an issue today, it does seem to be a recurring issue every year he has been with us that fact cannot be blamed on the “previous regime”. The Cards need to work on their running game and bringing in some talent at RB like Chris Ivory could help the Cards see light from the seller behind a new and improved 0-line. The Offseason is a time where teams returning to the playoffs year-after-year do some of their most impressive work in the signing of talent while working to stay under the cap. GMs like Ozzie Newsom, Mickey Loomis, Bill Billichick, Ted Thompson, Bill Polian have all discovered a formula that allows their teams to succeed year-after-year and are in many ways the real MVPs. The next few months are going to be telling as the “new regime” has an opportunity to “make their bones” . Good Luck to all, this could be where the REAL excitement is!

  49. By clssylssy on Feb 15, 2013 | Reply

    Just saw where the Eagles singed Dennis Dixon and KC could be interested in Nick Foles. Foles was VERY impressive last season and I would say let KC have Kolb and Cards go after Foles. The Cards would get a clean start with a player who has demonstrated he can handle the pressure of the NFL, stay healthy and who is familiar to some of our new coaching staff and doesn’t come with baggage. I wish somebody could make a good case showing the upside of keeping Kolb…just saying, let’s look objectively at the pros and cons.

  50. By Kevin S on Feb 15, 2013 | Reply

    Clssylssy –

    Kolb’s injury history should be a factor in deciding whether to keep him and, if so, how much to pay him — no doubt. But comments like “where else could a person keep their job if they only showed up less than half the time” (in reference to him playing 15 of 32 games) aren’t really fair. No one disputed the severity of Kolb’s injuries; it’s not like he had a choice whether to show up or not for work and chose to sleep in. Football players get injured. Ryan Williams has played in only a third of the games Kolb has in those same two years… should we just dump on him too?

  51. By clssylssy on Feb 16, 2013 | Reply

    Kevin S-
    I meant nothing personal when I asked that question. It is simply a fact of life that in our country’s current situation even the most generous companies cannot continue to stay in business if they have to keep individuals on the payroll who are unable to function and perform the tasks for which they were hired. Often times companies will make an effort to work with an employee even going so far as to let them work from home but this is not a longterm solution. Football players know when they sign up that their careers could be short lived and their earning power ended if faced with a career ending injury and most plan for such. It comes down to business economics. Kurt Warner “retired” early and is doing quite well working “in football” but not as a player as are other former players. It’s not like Kevin Kolb won’t have a number of doors open to him after the Cards. Cardinal fans are constantly whining about the Cards not drafting wisely or blaming coaches for a bad season because there is a lack of depth when the reality is you can’t have it both ways. Sometimes players have to be cut because in order to afford to pay other,more productive layers,the hard decisions to “dump on” them have to be made…and,that is why GMs get the big bucks; part of their job description is he is the one charged with the task of being the surgeon!

  52. By bluepitt on Feb 18, 2013 | Reply

    @cobra,
    I think Skelton sucked when he was drafted 3 years ago, and was using Skelton and his Wins as an example with my fitz point,

    @Mike,
    We all know that a catchable ball to fitz is any that touch his hands, the stats people might call a ball uncatchable, that Fitz usually catches, that is my point when Warner threw a uncatchable ball Fitz would get it 9 out of 10 times, but the same Balls as of the past 2 years he has not caught, If Fitz is the Great WR he was with Warner why not hold him to the same standards? If you dont then he is just a normal WR who needs the ball perfect to catch it!

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