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Thoughts on Beanie and Ryan Williams

Posted by Darren Urban on February 21, 2013 – 2:49 pm

Both Steve Keim and Bruce Arians talked about the Cardinals’ top two running backs today. As you can imagine, injuries were at the center of their analysis with both Beanie Wells and Ryan Williams.

“I think Beanie had a tough stretch this year because of the injuries,” Keim said. “He showed a lot of grit, a lot of toughness late in the year when he was able to. Some of the lower extremity injuries, his ankles, his knees, his feet, he’s had a tough time with his cut ability and his lateral movement. But Beanie is still a big horse who can finish runs and create yardage after contact, which is something that excites us.”

Arians didn’t get around to Wells, and it would still seem that Beanie’s future — even though his salary is a manageable $1.4 million this season (assuming he is a main back) — is up in the air. He still remains a work-in-progress as a pass protector, and that is a prerequisite for Arians. As for Williams, there is something to work with — as long as he can get on the field. Keim spoke generally a couple of times about availability being as important as ability and that certainly applies to the 2011 second-round pick.

“Ryan has to stay healthy,” Arians said. “I actually ran the (Virginia Tech) Pro Day there when all those guys came out and he was a fantastic athlete. He has to get healthy and we’ll see how he fits. But as a running back, he’s got what it takes.”

Keim said he has seen Williams rehabbing and sounded optimistic about what the Cards could have.

“He’s a guy that, watching film with Bruce, because he got injured early in the season, you forgot the type of run skills Ryan had,” Keim said. “We watched him against Philadelphia, we watched him against New England, his lateral quickness, his natural run skills, his avoidability is something he brings to the table. Plus he’s a three-down back. We’re expecting big things out of Ryan moving forward.”

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23 Responses to “Thoughts on Beanie and Ryan Williams”

  1. By AndyStandsUp on Feb 21, 2013 | Reply

    Keim speaking on Williams -”We watched against Philadelphia, we watched him against New England..”
    You might want to use better examples. 10 carries for 13 yards and a fumble vs, NE and 5 carries for 18 yards vs PHI in first half when Cards raced to 24-0 lead.

  2. By Andy Kw on Feb 21, 2013 | Reply

    Levi Brown will be key to Larry Fitzgerald, Beanie Wells, and Ryan William’s success.

  3. By WhoTHCares on Feb 21, 2013 | Reply

    I don’t know how i feel about Beanie, because when a player gives up on a play, he gives up on his coach, he gives up on his TEAMMATES, he gives up on us, on the entire organisation… and says i’m auditioning for 31 other teams? Come on..

    I’d just hope we could somehow get a hold of Chris Ivory and pair him with RW so that we’d have some room to see in the draft.

    on top of that i hope we can get a decent LT to backup Potter while he gets a good offseason and starts. So that we can why not get a hold of Chance Warmack?

    Potter – Warmack – Sendlein – Brown – Massie

    Maybe even grab a LB in FA, I hope we get some FA acitivity just so that we can get a good OLB which seems to be many in the draft and a good S/CB

  4. By Eric Randall on Feb 21, 2013 | Reply

    Ryan Williams and Beanie Wells SUCK

  5. By bluepitt on Feb 21, 2013 | Reply

    @WhoTHCares
    If you remember Wells came out and said that he used that quote because that what he was told by the Coaching staff!!!!!

    Sounds more to me like the Coaching staff was telling him he was gone so what do you expect him to do or say,
    How is he suposed to stay healthy and productive when he doesnt have a system or skeem to run in?
    Even with his 2.7 avg this year he has a 4.0 avg over his career.

    With the previous Staff you could tell they were pass happy, and didnt have a clue on how to use a good back.

    For those of you that think Williams is a good choice you will be verry unhappy unless Bruce can keep him from thinking he is larger than he is, He runs to hard for his size causing majir collisions in witch he is the smaller missile hiting an aircraftcarrier!!!!!

  6. By John on Feb 21, 2013 | Reply

    Cards could have Barry Sanders and Emitt smith in their prime and it wouldn’t matter. Every article and every draft pick from here on out should goto the O line. Without blocking everyone gets hurt. It’s like a chess board with no pons leaving every piece vulnerable to punishment and or injury.

  7. By John The Draft Guy on Feb 21, 2013 | Reply

    While there is talent in both Wells and Williams, I can’t help but remember Bill Parcels talking and he said if you can’t stay healthy, you can’t be on my team.

    I think Wells is a true power back. I like the way he runs. But he just has not been able to carry the ball enough due to injuries. We talked about this before Darren, that although he hasnt missed a lot of games, he seems to get nagging injuries during the game and really has a low carry per game average. I think it is time to part ways.

    As for Williams, he impressed me as a rookie but last year struggled, missing his reads and not exploding threw the hole. He would be there for camp and have a chance to compete as a starter, but I would bring someone in to compete with him.

    This is a weak RB draft, but you could find a nice late round gem.

  8. By Sundevil1982 on Feb 21, 2013 | Reply

    I like Beanie, it’s a shame he gets hurt and is surrounded by mediocre run blockers. He’s definitely had some fantastic games when he’s been healthy. If he always played with a mean streak like I’ve seen small glimpses of he would be a great back.

  9. By joecb91 on Feb 21, 2013 | Reply

    Yeah, all the comments on Beanie have been getting annoying to me. I agree with you, to me it just looks like another case of a guy who got stuck in Whiz’s doghouse. And we all know that once you get in there, there is no escape.

    Looking at all of these guys, I still feel like if Beanie is healthy, he is the best option at RB. But going with a rotation like Beanie and Hightower in 09 is still the best option.

    I want to keep WiPo around too, he was the only guy that wasn’t hurt at some point this year, and he was the only one that could get any real yardage behind the O-Line (besides when LSH broke off a few long runs when he wasn’t going down in the backfield).

  10. By Redbird96 on Feb 21, 2013 | Reply

    Im sick of fans saying our players suck. I love Ryan. He was FANTASTIC in college, and i believe can generate that for our team. He admitted that in the first five games he didnt look as ho because his first injury was still affecting him. i believe that if wekeep the faith in him he be something special.
    As for beanie, he has had good sparks anda few good games but i feel like hes always hurt. im sick of that. If he can stay healthy, IF he can then i think itd be smart to keep him around. But basedoff of his resume, dont know if thats a possibility.

  11. By Scott H on Feb 21, 2013 | Reply

    Damn, man, is anyone noticing a recurrent theme here???

    All discussions about Kolb go immediately to the subject of injuries.

    All discussions about Beanie go immediately to the subject of unjuries.

    Discussions of Ryan Williams, right to injuries.

    Discussions of Toler, right to injuries.

    WE HAVE ENTIRELY TOO MANY PLAYERS WHERE EVERYTHING HINGES ON WHETHER THEY CAN STAY HEALTHY OR NOT!!!!

    Playoff teams are NOT comprised of so many question marks at key positions. And we are LOADED with them right now.

  12. By Andy Kw on Feb 21, 2013 | Reply

    There are 5 Free Agents this team needs back:
    1.) Rashad Johnson
    2.) LaRod Stephens-Howling
    3.) Paris Lenon
    4.) Quentin Groves
    5.) Nick Eason

    There are 5 players that need to get cut:
    1.) Stewart Bradley
    2.) Ryan Lindley
    3.) Adam Snyder
    4.) John Skelton
    5.) Zack Nash

  13. By ored on Feb 21, 2013 | Reply

    agree with the notion that beanie was a victim along with the qb’s,they got little protection and he got little blocking.defenses did’nt want to meet beanie head on so they went for his knees,and with poor blocking they had clean shots,that’s why most his injuries were knees and lower leg injuries,once he could get to the nexr level he was awesome downhill.defenses try to drive williams into the ground,he needs to use th sidelines wisely,the other small backs,with poor blocking were just stonewalled.it all really comes back to the line,and finally i agree whiz and company did poorly in laying and keeping a firm foundation for the offense,took some of us longer than others to recognize this,but how does a head coach miss that.
    looking back,if we had followed 49r’s lead and built the o-line,we might still have warner,a great ground game,and a ring or two.so i guess whiz was just a product of right place at the right time,he just did’nt have the head coaching experience to build on that.better luck this time around for all i hope.
    also agree with trying levi at guard,our rt.side should rock,now getting potter stronger,coaching up,and do something with lft.guard whether it’s coaching,lighting fires under their butts,or free agent/draft,get another depth man and we should be good to go.assuming the 2 top lft.tackles are what they say they are and either drops to us,then we probably have to go that way.but really can’t see a guard at #7,maybe the rams take him in the teens since they want to keep methusala around for awhile longer,lol.have great respect and props for jackson,year after year he was their offense-and everyone knew it.if we could get the ky.guard later and put our 1st pick to good use,that would be nice.

  14. By NYCardinals212 on Feb 21, 2013 | Reply

    bluepitt: “If you remember Wells came out and said that he used that quote because that what he was told by the Coaching staff!!!!!”

    This is what Beanie actually said:

    “Wells said he hasn’t had any formal discussions about his future in Arizona but feels his departure is ‘inevitable’.”
    http://www.azcardinals.com/news-and-events/article-2/Beanie-Wells-Wonders-About-Future/aefd34e5-9aef-4320-b25c-6bc022fccf90

    “He admitted he hasn’t had conversations with anyone with the team saying that for sure, but he knows it is a production-based business and he hasn’t produced enough
    http://blog.azcardinals.com/page/8/

  15. By Campbells on Feb 21, 2013 | Reply

    How many years do we have to keep hoping that key players stay healthy???

    Williams can’t take the abuse this league dishes out.

    Beanie may have already sustained too many leg injuries to ever fully recover.

    Insert fresh backs, and hope they don’t end up in the same boat.

  16. By Patrick Eagan on Feb 21, 2013 | Reply

    just get rid of the both of them and start over. neither has been able to stay healthy.

  17. By Coach Kevin on Feb 21, 2013 | Reply

    Bye Bye Beanie. It’s time to bring in Rashard Mendenhall and then draft a solid young player like Jawan Jamison out of Rutgers who has durability and can pass block.

    I’m getting this as my latest Mock draft based on information discussed today at Indy:

    1. Eric Fisher
    2. Logan Ryan
    3. Tyler Bray
    4. Chase Thomas
    5. Jawan Jamison
    6. Bruce Taylor
    6. Tyrann Mathieu
    6. Jake Stoneburner

  18. By Rich on Feb 22, 2013 | Reply

    Darren,
    If you happen to be talking with Steve Keim, please pass a message on to him regarding Ryan Williams…….that message is………

    “Steve, I watched Ryan in those same games and didn’t see any of the skills and activity that you saw – none – notta – zero! I hope he has a great year and I hope you are correct. After all, you are the GM and we are trying to develop an early confidence in your decisions. But, gotta tell ya, big guy……..these observations you make about RW, wow…..and wow…….I sure didn’t see what you saw. Probably why I am in the stands and you are on the field. Good luck !! “

  19. By Scott H on Feb 22, 2013 | Reply

    Coach Kevin –

    How do we gain anything by cutting Beanie and bringing in Mendenhall? Isn’t that just going from one problematic injury concern to another??? Seems like the Steelers were clearly expecting more from Mendenhall last season than they got. Again, where is the distinction between that situation and ours’ with Beanie Wells??? I’m certainly not opposed to your sentiment that we move on from Wells but the definition of “move on” would entail moving FORWARD from where we are now – not SIDEWAYS to pretty much right where we are now.

    What we NEED is to find this year’s Alfred Morris in the draft. How come WE never find these guys???

  20. By eric on Feb 23, 2013 | Reply

    wonder if they will pursue steeler f/a back rashard mendenhal????…..would not bother me at all.

  21. By cardsalltheway on Feb 26, 2013 | Reply

    Rich, I agree with you!

    It behooves me when coaches/GM’s ignore who was our most “available”(no injuries) RB last year and had Ryan Williams done what this RB did during pre-season and stayed healthy the whole season all Cardinal fans(and coaches) would’ve been touting “Yippy yippy yi yippy yippy yi yo yo yo.” Heck, they still tout Ryan W. despite HIS low production.

    This RB had the best avg. yards per carry(3.6) on our team in 2012 and had only 15 less total yards than Beanie Wells at 28 less carries. For most to have ignored this RB last year and now what seems to be the same ole same ole is incredulous. This RB and LSH looked and did the best for us last year. And yes LSH did have a slow start just like Ryan W. and Beanie W. If you still don’t know who this RB is then that’s really sad, his name starts with a W and ends with a P.

    I would keep W.P. and Beanie(contract year) but cut Ryan Williams – he’s all hype and he’ll get injured again if we count on him. Gotta let go LSH because of the probable price and his diminished ability to return kicks for whatever reason(s) and if it’s due to injuries then that just supports my decision. LSH used to be better than Seattle’s Leon Washington as a Kick Returner but not anymore. If we can get LSH at a reasonable price then okay, but I doubt it.

  22. By scottnapa on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    Ryan Williams is just a wasted 2nd round pick at his point.
    Mendenhall is oft injured. I would look at Chris Ivory and his 5.1 ypc

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