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Palmer talk gains momentum

Posted by Darren Urban on March 30, 2013 – 10:02 am

The first domino to a Friday of speculation came earlier in the day, when news of a probable trade of quarterback Matt Flynn from the Seahawks to the Raiders hit the public domain. In itself, somewhat meaningless to the Cardinals. But the fallout was obvious — with Flynn, the Raiders no longer needed Carson Palmer, and if Palmer was on his way out in Oakland, it could mean a possible piece for the Cardinals. So last night, as I watched my son play some tournament basketball, the rumor mill hit high gear, with assorted unnnamed sources.

First came the idea the Cardinals could trade for Palmer. Then there was the notion the rest of the league would be surprised if Palmer would want to play in Arizona, unless of course the Cardinals were one of the teams Palmer wouldn’t mind playing for. As it stands at this moment, the Flynn trade has not even been completed, so until that comes to pass, nothing else will. But it always made sense that the Cards would consider Palmer if he came available.

(Yes, I understand there are plenty out there talking about what Palmer has left. This would be a relative short-term solution, however. I keep hearing the idea of, basically, do what you do with Drew Stanton in 2013 and if you lose, you lose and then draft a QB high in 2014. Understand that’s not how Bruce Arians and Steve Keim are going to think.)

From here though, there are questions. Trading for a player who seems likely to be released? Odd, although the Raiders can, in theory, hold on to Palmer indefinitely before cutting him, so maybe it would be worth the Cards giving up some kind of late, maybe conditional pick just to get Palmer in the fold. Many reports have Palmer turning down a $10 million salary (he is slated to make $13M this season) to stay in Oakland. No way I can see the Cardinals paying that. And if you’re Palmer, it would figure you’d rather be a free agent — after being released — to give yourself options/leverage if you so chose.

So clearly there are a lot of moving parts here. One caveat that could facilitate this: If the Raiders and Cards were going to try and pull off a trade, it makes sense the Raiders would give the Cards permission to talk contract with Palmer’s people first. That’s the only way this would get done (again, the Cards aren’t going to just inherit a $13M deal and the same headache the Raiders currently have) trade-wise. Lots of moving parts — remember, the Flynn deal isn’t even official right now — but it’s certainly a storyline to watch develop (or not develop) over the next week. Not sure it’s quite like Manning Watch 2012, but a quarterback is a quarterback.

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79 Responses to “Palmer talk gains momentum”

  1. By azjam on Mar 30, 2013 | Reply

    I like Palmer. He is better than any qb the Cards have had since Warner retired. I would love to see him throwing passes to Fitz. They could have Palmer, Stanton and Hoyer as their qbs. They would not have to use a draft pick for a qb this year. They could focus on the offense especially the OL. I really hope they pull off getting him.

  2. By Abel Martinez on Mar 30, 2013 | Reply

    Horrible idea bringing him in thats what doomed the last regime and if this happens again the fan are getting tried of the same old moves WHEN ARE WE GOING TO HAVE OUR OWN AARON RODGERS OR ELI MANNING?

  3. By G Witt on Mar 30, 2013 | Reply

    Well let’s not forget how people thought Warner was washed up and at the end of his career. Remeber what he did for the Cards??
    Palmer could be someone to help the Cards get back on track. I think he would like to come here and play for BA.

  4. By sqhead on Mar 30, 2013 | Reply

    I don’t mind if they go after Palmer, I just hope they wait until he is released, wouldn’t want to give the Raiders anything for him.

  5. By Coach Kevin on Mar 30, 2013 | Reply

    If the Cards want Palmer, do not trade. wait for him to be released.

  6. By djjackson81 on Mar 30, 2013 | Reply

    As many different comments I have read on good idea or not to bring in Palmer for AZ. I don’t see giving up any picks to acquire him especially at anything near his salary. If he would not restructure to 10 million for OAk what makes anyone think he will restructure for AZ first before they traded anything for him.He will be released by OAK. Wait till then so Palmer can choose where he wants to go. If he wanted to come to AZ then at least then we would know he wants to be here. Anything over 4-5 million for a year and any picks for Palmer is not the smart move for Keim. I’m in the group of fans who think Arians likes Stanton enough to bring him in and thus releasing Kolb then go with Stanton and we can see if Arians made the right call with his choice. Don’t burn Stanton after bringing him to AZ as a starter and then pull the starter roll back and hand it to Palmer.

  7. By SFM on Mar 30, 2013 | Reply

    He will want to much money. I would like to see the Cardinals build for a solid future. I am so tired of these retread players. I would like to go to the games and enjoy watching players that are their way in not out.

  8. By Tucson Card on Mar 30, 2013 | Reply

    Interesting. My opinion is mixed right now. Obviously he’s an upgrade from last year, but how much of an upgrade, and at what cost? I say go for it only if the price is right (aka give up as little as possible). At best, Palmer would be a short term solution at QB. Still though, the Cards can’t loose sight of the ultimate goal of drafting and developing a QB.

  9. By Nolan on Mar 30, 2013 | Reply

    Hey darren, if Geno Smith is there at 7, in your opinion, do you see the cardinals taking him?

  10. By lg on Mar 30, 2013 | Reply

    Darren do you have a clue about how much money we have left too offer him.

  11. By SummumBonum on Mar 30, 2013 | Reply

    NOOOOOOOOO! Do yall consider every QB talked about JESUS! Leave Palmer where he`s at pleez. If we get him were going Backwords.

  12. By Chuck 1 on Mar 30, 2013 | Reply

    I’m sure that Keim will not overpay, either in $$$$ or a draft pick, for a QB that is on the downhill slope.
    However, i would like to see Palmer in a Card uniform.

  13. By George on Mar 30, 2013 | Reply

    I think it would be worth trying to get Palmer only if he was released or if it would only cost a 6th round pick. If Palmer can be protected, I believe he is still a good QB. He still has a strong arm and Arians wants to go deep a number of times per game. Remember Cardinals fans, many of you thought Warner was washed up when he was signed. With improved offensive line play, Palmer can florish here.

  14. By hummer53 on Mar 30, 2013 | Reply

    I think Palmer could be decent for a couple if seasons if the offense system and line and RB game improves which I have good faith that BA will make it. If CP would take close to what we saved on the CAP for letting Kolb go then go for it.
    I think it was around 6 million but not sure. Not sure if Palmer would take a 2 year deal for about 12M with only half guaranteed. Could put incentives in there too.

  15. By Dave on Mar 30, 2013 | Reply

    Darren, I don’t understand why the Cardinals or any team would trade for him, because Palmer would obviously have to agree to a restructured deal prior to the trade. If he would agree to that with the trade, why not just wait until he’s cut and see if he’d agree to the same terms without sending any draft picks.

    This whole story line just seems strange to me.

  16. By sarah on Mar 30, 2013 | Reply

    Meh don’t see the big deal, if he comes without Kolb like dollars and can win games great, his best days were in a Bengals uniform. I think the Cards would only move if he is released given cap number he pulls along. A record of 4-12 last year is not stellar either, that said Oakland is the graveyard for quarterbacks and has been that way since Gannon left. Here is an article re. Koln and Oakland, desperate times out there and Vince Young’s name being batted around in perpetuity.

    http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/blog/eye-on-football/21977389/report-raiders-eye-kevin-kolb-if-unable-to-land-matt-flynn

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1585268-oakland-raiders-vince-young-and-why-signing-him-is-not-such-a-bad-idea

  17. By John S on Mar 30, 2013 | Reply

    BA already said as far as he is concerned they have a QB so I don’t see them offering him much of anything in terms of dollars or a trade, nor should they be.

  18. By tbru on Mar 30, 2013 | Reply

    I would rather trade for Flynn

  19. By o on Mar 30, 2013 | Reply

    i don’t think it will be about the money with palmer,he already stated he has enough to retire,so it comes down to starting and having weapons in place,he could have both here,so,imo that’s when a players competetive nature comes into play,could be a very nice fit short term.then either stanton impresses or we sell the farm next year for “the one”.just wish we could find our playa in the later rounds and not have to overpay,even if it is for the real deal would be nice to hand him the keys to a ferrari like the 9ers did.we are so close to being elite,our division could easily be the best in league.

  20. By Scott H on Mar 30, 2013 | Reply

    Ugh. Look, regardless of whether Palmer is here or not ( and I hope he isn’t ) this year and regardless of whether the team has any success with Palmer or not ( and I doubt they will ), HE IS NOT THE FUTURE OF THIS TEAM. Therefore, regardless, there needs to be a plan for the future of this team and that needs to start with the QB. So my question becomes, why bother with Palmer at all?

    For a team that needs to look forward and MOVE forward, an aging veteran stop gap QB is NOT what is needed. Again, I think Palmer would suit a very good team ready to win now just fine. THAT AIN’T US.

    Our offensive line situation is among the worst in the NFL, until proven otherwise. With an offensive backfield coming back from serious injuries, our running game is a total question mark. So, what is Carson Palmer going to do???Waive all that aside and make the Cardinals a winning team??? Really?

    My God, folks, look over the past two decades and take note of all of the many aging veteran QB’s who came here ( Esaison, Buerlein, Krieg, Blake, Shroeder, McMahon, and at least a few more ) and tell me where that has gotten us? Nowhere. Endless losing seasons and a perpetual cycle of going back to the drawing board again and again.

    Maybe our history of drafting QB’s ain’t much better. But since there ain’t a Drew Brees or a Matt Shaub available right now, that is the road this team has to take to better. Carson Palmer is just another trip down that road we’ve been down too many times with nothing to show for it.

  21. By Darren Urban on Mar 30, 2013 | Reply

    Nolan -

    RE: Smith

    If Arians doesn’t see a QB that makes him go “wow,” I don’t see them taking on at 7.

  22. By Darren Urban on Mar 30, 2013 | Reply

    Lg -

    RE: Palmer money

    Cap space isn’t an issue. Actual money they would want to pay would be. I don’t see them throwing the bank at him.

  23. By Timmy on Mar 30, 2013 | Reply

    Scott H

    KURT WARNER!!!! Granted the majority of the time it doesn’t work out, but to say it never works and we have nothing to show for it. My reply is KURT WARNER!

  24. By Chuck 1 on Mar 30, 2013 | Reply

    IF the Cards sign Palmer, Stanton and he would be competing for the starting position. And, Hoyer would be on the Practice Squad.
    Why not just pass on Palmer, draft a QB in Round two or three and put him on the PS. That way, the drafted QB could be developed for the future.
    Also, during the draft, before the Cards draft a QB, Hoyer could be traded for a draft pick

  25. By philly cards? on Mar 30, 2013 | Reply

    Is palmer 22 tds 14 int better than kolb who beat new england?

    They are sending smoke signals because why is lindley and skelton still on the roster? Maybe this is all to bring kolbs asking price down.

  26. By sarah on Mar 30, 2013 | Reply

    If they can fix Skelton and get consistency then he would have a great QB.

    t figures that John Skelton finally got what he so coveted — the nod to be the official starter for the Cards, without the caveat that the “real” starter was injured or that the season was a lost cause — and suddenly had the rug pulled from under him with his ankle injury. Clearly there were some ups and downs in the opener before Skelton got hurt, but his first half was solid and smart and exactly the kind of performance the Cards had been hoping he’d deliver. The second half was mostly forgettable, but coach Ken Whisenhunt said the offensive issues weren’t all Skelton’s fault. In fact, take away his interception — which, while a great play by Seahawks cornerback Richard Sherman, needed to be chucked out of bounds and no where near the field — and Whisenhunt said “I think he played a good game.”

    Remember this piece Darren ? http://blog.azcardinals.com/2011/12/27/the-curious-case-of-john-skelton/

  27. By Bay Area Bad Boy on Mar 30, 2013 | Reply

    Carson Palmer is a cancer. Please don’t get this loser. Great College QB and so so Pro. Please don’t waste time or money on this guy. He’s one hit or interception from retirement. He has done nothing for any team in the past 5 years. Even the consideration is ridiculous. There is no upside to this reject. Just my opinion.

  28. By iammattyoung on Mar 30, 2013 | Reply

    I think that you have to sign Palmer if he becomes available. Dooming Fitz to another season of unproven and underperforming QB is unacceptable. Palmer gives Fitz a chance of a good season, and provides a stop-gap until someone starts to show us something. There is no reason to expect anything great from Stanton.

  29. By red bird of death! on Mar 30, 2013 | Reply

    Another USC golden boy, ok he did have 2 good years and he does compete, but he can be a turnover machine, I got 2 words for you Carson …….Kurt Warner.

  30. By Artie on Mar 30, 2013 | Reply

    Darren,

    I noticed today that the Bills have released Fitzpatrick and signed Kolb. Is there any speculation that the Cards might be interested in Fitzpatrick. It is true I believe that Fitzpatrick is Mediocre at best. However I would consider Palmer the same level of Mediocrity. I just believe Fitzpatrick would be a heck of a lot cheaper the Palmer. I believe that the Bills issues were more line and protection problems, also a lack of talent outside of Stevie Johnson, and less to do with Fitzpatrick. Plus wouldn’t it be cool to see a lot of Fitz to Fitz touchdowns?

  31. By andystandsup on Mar 30, 2013 | Reply

    If Palmer is behind “Door #2″ wouldn’t be that disappointed.
    Just a veteran bridge and not really a QB worth taking early in the draft this season.
    Question for me would be – if signed, whom of the Skelton, Hoyer and Lindley trio makes the roster? (Assuming Stanton stays – WBTW, would be a disappointment to him again.)

  32. By Carpenterdon on Mar 30, 2013 | Reply

    A lot of Cardinal fans don’t get that Drew Stanton is a gamer. He drug a crappy Lions team down the field numerous times. The Lions had many injured players when he beat the Packers. That was the year the Packers won the Superbowl by the way. He is 2-2 as a starter. Not to mention he is dangerous as a runner if need be. There are a lot of Colts that talk very highly of him. There are many Lions that talk very highly of him. I’m seeing a lot of negativity towards him on message boards. Just remember Tom Brady was a back up QB at one time also. Stanton has a fire in him that a lot of QB’s don’t have. I hope you as Cards fans get to see it!

  33. By Cactus jeff on Mar 30, 2013 | Reply

    All you anti-Palmer fans, how would you address the Fitz situation then? He can’t wait around and watch his career become insignificant. Last year was brutal for him. No Palmer and risk Fitz demanding a trade. He would be a huge upgrade over Kolb and Skelton. Give a 6th round pick and give it a try.

  34. By Jeff A on Mar 30, 2013 | Reply

    Palmer would be a great addition if done correctly. Either trade a low round pick for him similar to the Boldin trade where SF gave up a fifth rounder cause everyone knew he would be released or sign him after he’s cut. If he doesn’t get cut and OAK wants to much then take your chances with Stanton. Draft OL and DB high and NO QB! Next year’s QB class looks much better than this one while this year’s OL and safety talent is deep. Palmer would be a decent stopgap for this year and maybe the next while a real QB of the future is prepped. He got a lot done with junk around him. He may have a QB’d a 4-12 team, but he ONLY QB’d a 4-12 team. Last I checked he didn’t play defense, RB or WR. Give him Fitz and Roberts and he’ll be fine if we draft a pair of starters on the OL that can block. No upgrade to the OL and it will be just like last year no matter if it’s Stanton, Palmer or a rookie.

  35. By Darren Urban on Mar 30, 2013 | Reply

    Artie –

    RE: Fitzpatrick

    He already signed with Tennessee.

  36. By Charles Beckman on Mar 30, 2013 | Reply

    If the Cards are going to do anything this upcoming season, there will have to be some injuries on the other teams in the West. Not hoping for it, mind you, I’m not quite that malevolent. But, just sayin’, this team will have to have help in order to make a playoff spot. I am optimistic though, and I think a QB lineup of Palmer, Stanton and Hoyer might be a good beginning. Stanton wants to start, however, he’s not getting any younger, so we’ll see. BA looks like he’s got us headed in the right direction, so……Go Big Red!!!!~

  37. By sarah on Mar 31, 2013 | Reply

    Wish him luck !

    http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/bills-reportedly-ink-qb-kevin-kolb-article-1.1303792

  38. By Eazy E on Mar 31, 2013 | Reply

    We don’t need to just get any QB. We need to get a winner first and foremost and Carson hasn’t done much of that his entire career. We definitely shouldn’t trade for him or sign him as a free agent. We can do better than this, this is just pathetic once again. Draft Geno or move up from 7 if the talks heat up about him going earlier which have already begun or just wait to the idiotic Jets finally release Tebow and sign him. Both are young obviously and we can see either one of them hopefully take the franchise and be that QB. Stanton is a joke to consider him for an NFL Starting QB job or anything higher than the 2nd String or anybody else on our roster at QB for that matter. Their is no way I’m wasting a whole year on him or watching that train wreck/accident waiting to happen.

  39. By Nolan on Mar 31, 2013 | Reply

    Do you think that a good pro day or workout or talk with geno could still “wow” arians?

  40. By Eazy E on Mar 31, 2013 | Reply

    Who we couldn’t had on the left and who we don’t want on the right!#Ugh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  41. By Eazy E on Mar 31, 2013 | Reply

    could’ve

  42. By WilyB on Mar 31, 2013 | Reply

    Palmer had impressive stats for 2012, 4000 yards, etc., but the Raiders still only won 4 games! You can blame their lack of success on their defense if it makes you feel better, just like many on this blog blame the Card’s QBs for our woes in 2012. But even Palmer would have a short year if we blocked for him like we blocked for the QBs we put on the field last year. I think the Cards should focus on the performance issues of our offensive line, including improving our weak running game.

  43. By James on Mar 31, 2013 | Reply

    Don’t go after Palmer, that will only delay the rebuilding. They need a QB that will stabilize the position for the next 5-10 years. Here’s what I would do:

    - Use the draft top improve the O-line. People who say that the O-line is not as bad as it seems are dreaming. Where is the evidence for that? Look at the statistics, the O-line has been amongst the worst in the league for a few years now. One or two injuries and everything falls apart, see last year.

    - Don’t draft a QB early, give Stanton a chance. A real chance, meaning a good O-line, combined with something resembling a running game.

    - If Stanton sucks, too bad. Then draft a QB in the first round next year. Trade up if you have to get a really good one (see Washington with RGIII).

  44. By Christo on Mar 31, 2013 | Reply

    @Cactus Jeff the Fitz situation doesn’t have a pretty ending.

    He’s going to HAVE to take a pay CUT, not a reduction. When that gets spurned by himself he will be traded. It’s going down, he’s crippling the team.

    Can’t win a Super Bowl with a team built around an All World WR.

    Truth is truth, we might finally have a GM and HC who realize this.

  45. By Campbells on Mar 31, 2013 | Reply

    Palmer is a bad solution.
    Even when he was in his prime, he choked in the playoffs. He’s far from being in his prime.
    Either wait for another free-agent, or draft a young QB that can be developed.
    I agree with the assertion that we need to develop our own franchise QB, instead of perpetually bringing in retreads.

  46. By philly cards? on Mar 31, 2013 | Reply

    No more skelton his problems can’t be fixed. His potetial was based on the problems miraculously going away.

    Whiz duped us.his agent should be commended. Kiem worries me because I’m not sure how good he is or where he gets his conidence from. Is that why he draws line in the sand with adub? Percetion of weakness. And kolb too? If this was madden our overall rating drops 10 to around 68.with this off season so far

  47. By Bill L on Mar 31, 2013 | Reply

    First, I feel sorry for QAK fans…….atleast we can always say, WE ARE BETTER OFF THAN OAK…….of course everyone can say that with MAYBE the exception of JAX fans.

    Palmer would Buy the Cards a Year…….no draft pick wasted on a QB this year and a look to 2014 for the GUY for the Cards. I’d give no more than a 5th to get him, though. A 2 year contract front loaded so it doesn’t screw with FA next year……you get a QB for this year with no real harm to the Franchise.

    Now if JAX, Buff and OAK will all take a QB this year to clear the field for the Cards Next year………Buff just about has to, Kolb doesn’t change that…….JAX and OAK? I don’t think so. Hopefully they manage to scrape out a few wins and are drafting no better than 3 or 4 next year……….Leave rom for the Cards to move in front of them.

  48. By CORMAC on Mar 31, 2013 | Reply

    REBUILD with WHAT quarterback? I honestly dont see ANY great reviews on the incoming draft class. AND as for next years draft, I dont see ANY juniors getting asked by the media, if they are joining the draft early like ANDREW LUCK. How many years are we supposed to make due?

    Play the best player availble. PALMER and KOLB are two, PALMER being the better choice in my opinion. PALMER is known to be good, not a one year wonder. Alot of a QBs do well because of offensive coaching schemes. I think ARIAN will have alot more to work with if he has PALMER in his pocket.
    KOLB is a good second. OF course we need to get them at a great deal, but I think that is very possible if they keep up their current practice of not overpaying.

  49. By Card Fan Gary on Mar 31, 2013 | Reply

    To all the people who keep insisting that Larry F. is wasting his career, what makes you think that Drew Stanton couldn’t throw well enough that Larry ends up back in the probowl this year? The NFL isn’t like it was a few years ago where rookies ride the bench for a few years,. there are at least 6 rookie QB’s that started in the past two years and had decent stats. No one can know what Drew will acomplish until he is given a chance. Carson Palmer is a known quantity….I have seen him put up decent stats but he really has not lead a team to playoff wins. For all of you who keep saying he is like Warner….at least Warner had won a superbowl before, Palmer has quit on two teams now.

  50. By Brett n Co. on Mar 31, 2013 | Reply

    Eazy -

    Why are you so hung up on Tebow, he can not throw the ball, so please get off the wagon bud!

  51. By gozona on Mar 31, 2013 | Reply

    Ba is going to to use his abilities to…i feel…truly make this offense work to its strengths using a squad who didnt have an opportunity to be themselves instead ofbeing forced into a system that didnt work. Alot of people are going to be turned around this season…i dont think we bother with Palmer…although at first thought he would be an upgrade…TRAIN YOUTH and lets start anew… i am psyched for this season GOZONA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  52. By Scott H on Mar 31, 2013 | Reply

    Timmy -

    Yes, there was Kurt Warner. That was obvious to the point where I didn’t think I needed to mention it. But for every Kurt Warner you can give me, I can give you 10 guys who took us nowhere. So, which side of this do the odds favor?

    WilyB -

    Well said.

    Anyone else -

    If another perspective on Carson Palmer is needed, then how ‘ bout this – the RAIDERS don’t even want this guy anymore. We’re going to pin our hopes on a QB that the RAIDERS don’t even want? Anyone want to dare try to explain how that is a wise course of action???

    At this point, I am hoping that Carson Palmer himself saves us from Carson Palmer by realizing that he is better off as a back-up for a ready-to-win-now team.

  53. By birdnerd58 on Mar 31, 2013 | Reply

    Darren,

    Can you give some info related to what the implications are and potential for picking up draft picks if we release Hoyer…my guess is someone would pick him up, Does the team picking him up lose anything with the second round tender, my guess is not, but do we have to wait until another team picks him up, and if we do receive draft compensation…is it for this year?

  54. By tyman on Mar 31, 2013 | Reply

    Palmer is a good Qb!!!

  55. By RobM on Mar 31, 2013 | Reply

    Surely if we got Palmer. The draft would HAVE to be focused around the o-line. He needs to be able to stand up, or maybe mentor a rookie?

    http://robmilne.blog.com/2013/03/30/top-five-o-line-prospects-in-the-2013-nfl-draft/

  56. By Chuck 1 on Mar 31, 2013 | Reply

    Sign Palmer if the price is right.
    Before or early in the draft, trade Hoyer for a low-to-mid-round pick.
    Draft a QB in the 2nd or third round.
    Let Palmer and Stanton fight it out for the starting position.

    If Palmer can’t be signed, keep Hoyer and draft a QB in the 2nd or 3rd round.

  57. By Andy Kw on Mar 31, 2013 | Reply

    Hey Darren,
    If WR LaRon Byrd does well in the preseason, do you think he will be elevated to the #4 wide receiver spot?

  58. By Andy Kw on Mar 31, 2013 | Reply

    It seems as if our Defense will be much better against the run with the signings of DE Frostee Rucker, Matt S, Lorenzo Alexander, and Jaspar Brinkley.
    So here is what the team should look like by the end of the preseason:
    QB: Drew Stanton, Rookie, Brian Hoyer/John Skelton
    RB: Rashard Mendenhall, Ryan Williams, Rookie
    WR: Larry Fitzgerald, Michael Floyd, Andre Roberts, LaRon Byrd, Rookie, Josh Cribbs
    TE: Rob Housler, Jeff King, Jim Dray
    OT: Levi Brown, Rookie, Bobby Massie, Nate Potter.
    OG: Daryn Colledge, Adam Snyder, Senio Kelemete, Rookie
    C: Lyle Sendlein
    DE: Calais Campbell, Frostee Rucker, Rookie
    NT: Dan Williams, David Carter
    DT: Darnell Dockett, Matt Shaughnessy
    LB: Daryl Washington, Sam Acho, O’Brien Schofield, Lorenzo Alexander, Jaspar Brinkley, Reggie Walker
    CB: Patrick Peterson, Antoine Cason, Jerraud Powers, Jamell Fleming
    S: Rashad Johnson, Yeremiah Bell, Justin Bethel, Jonathon Amaya, Rookie
    K: Jay Feely
    P: Dave Zastudil
    LS: Mike Leach

    Here is what I am hoping in the draft:
    -Draft OT Eric Fisher in the 1st round.
    -For Quarterback, Geno Smith/EJ Manuel/ Mike Glennon should be drafted by this team in the 2nd round if available.
    -RB Montee Ball should be drafted in the 3rd round.
    -Draft Zeke Motta in the 4th round if available.
    -Draft DE Devin Taylor in the 5th round.
    -Draft WR Rodney Smith in the 6th round.
    -Draft OG Josh Dworaczyk for our last pick in the 6th round since his has played all positions on the offensive line before.

    This team is doing well so far in the Bruce Arians Era.

  59. By Frank on Mar 31, 2013 | Reply

    If anything? Matt Flynn would be the guy to go after! Flynn set records in Green Bay as a starter when Rodgers was out injured. Flynn was one that the Cardinals shouldve gone after long ago. Hes a solid QB, accurate, strong arm. This guy can certainly get the ball to Fitz! For now all we can hope is that Palmer restructures his deal in Oakland, and we have a chance at going after Flynn…. Way better choice than Palmer.

  60. By sarah on Mar 31, 2013 | Reply

    Scott H this was good below ! You know your Cards history wow.

    ”My God, folks, look over the past two decades and take note of all of the many aging veteran QB’s who came here ( Esaison, Buerlein, Krieg, Blake, Shroeder, McMahon, and at least a few more ) and tell me where that has gotten us? Nowhere. Endless losing seasons and a perpetual cycle of going back to the drawing board again and again”.

    First thing… forget the QB situation, this new team is going to take time to gel on both sides of the ball, it is sort of like the team put together in the Longest Yard film (google), plus our new QB has not thrown a pass in a regular season game since 2010. Stanton apparently was great in practice in Indianapolis however Lindley was too here.

  61. By Darren Urban on Mar 31, 2013 | Reply

    Scott H -

    RE: Clarifying Palmer

    Actually, reports are the Raiders did want to keep Palmer if he cut his salary from $13M to $10M. He won’t do it.

  62. By Darren Urban on Mar 31, 2013 | Reply

    Birdnerd -

    RE: Hoyer

    The Cards can trade Hoyer. If they cut him, there is no compensation.

  63. By Darren Urban on Mar 31, 2013 | Reply

    Andy Kw -

    RE: Byrd

    There’s a chance. Depends on who else is at WR too.

  64. By Scott H on Mar 31, 2013 | Reply

    Darren -

    As always, you provide info I was not aware of. But, honestly, would YOU give Palmer 10 million at this point if you’re the Raiders??? I wouldn’t. The fact that he WAS slated to make 13 mil this year tells you just how whacked the deal the Raiders made with him really was.

    The Raiders are in the same boat as the Cardinals ( sad as that it ) in that they are not ready to win now and that is why I don’t think Palmer suits either team. If I own a team that has so many needs and is where either of these two teams is right now, I’m not spending 10 million for Carson Palmer. I’m using that money somewhere else and investing in the future. IF the QB I think can be the future is available in the draft this year, then I take him. IF that QB does not appear to be available, then I wait until next year.

    Just my opinion, but I don’t think this team wins any more than 6 games with Palmer this year. Well, I can probably do at least that well with Stanton AND I might just find out that he looks like a QB I can build around in the process. Either way, I am most likely drafting a QB next year. So, either way, Carson Palmer is not part of my future. Therefore, I see no reason to make him part of my present.

  65. By Eazy E on Mar 31, 2013 | Reply

    Brett-

    He can’t throw the ball but our QBs can? He can’t throw the ball but he has 1 more playoff win than a number of QBs active including Carson and was the reason for it carving up the #1 ranked Steelers D. C’mon man, your looking at the ”distraction” he would bring to a team which isn’t fair. If you win games, you’ll get attention, why not win and get attention with a guy that should at least be in a starting QB competition somewhere with the starting QBs starting in the league right now, why not Arizona? Have you seen our PATHETIC QB play for the past 3 years or Post Kurt. It is atrocious to say the least, I mean it is laughable. They made the great Larry Fitzgerald a below All-World WR.

  66. By Timmy on Mar 31, 2013 | Reply

    Scott H

    I know. Why do you think I said the majority of the time the aging vet doesn’t work. I agree with you. But you said we have nothing to show over the past two decades from getting aging vets and that isn’t true. We have two NFC West Championships and a NFC Championship to show for it. I’m not really sold on Palmer myself, but to say its not possible for it to work is wrong. It’s not likely to work, but not impossible. I personally want to see what Stanton has.

  67. By suspence716 on Mar 31, 2013 | Reply

    Hey, anything is better than kevin kolb!!!!! Ah hahahahaha bills!!!

  68. By ored on Mar 31, 2013 | Reply

    we are so past the tebow thing,couple of years ago when we made equally bad qb moves,maybe,but now we’ve regained our sanity,so responsible decisions are now expected.

  69. By Coach Kevin on Mar 31, 2013 | Reply

    Here’s how I see the draft unfolding. All three left tackles will be gone before pick #7. Geno will also be gone. Here’s our best moves if that occurs:

    1. Ziggy Ansah- A freak athletically
    2. Larry Warford- Road grader
    3. Tyler Bray- Best arm talent in this draft
    4. J.J. Wilcox – small school stud with huge upside
    5. Reid Fragel – Another former tight end converted to OT
    6. Zac Stacy- An exact clone of Ravens RB Ray Rice
    6b- Bruce Taylor- Inside backer that makes plays all over the field

  70. By John The Draft Guy on Apr 1, 2013 | Reply

    Easy E,

    I like Tim Tebow as a person. But let’s get real. He completed 46% of his passes in Denver as a starter. His playoffs, he completed 9 passes to beat Pitt and 10 passes in a loss to NE. That was a 40% comp ratio.

    The cards invested a lot of money in Larry. They used a first round pick for Floyd and have Andre Roberts. They brought in a head coach who threw the ball 66% of the time. This team is set up for a QB who can throw the ball. Meanwhile, Tebow started and played a game where he only completed 2 passes. How will that make anyone, including Larry, happy?

    Tebow is a great leader but he won games the same way people associate wins with Skelton or Kolb. I mean people are talking about Kolb beating NE while he passed for 132 yards. In all three cases, defense, special teams, turn overs, and after several chances given the offense by the defense, the offense makes a play. Then the QB somehow is celebrated.

    Tebow’s smartest move is to play in Canada or another league and produce there. If he does that, he might prove to the league he can be a starting QB. Doug Flutie was a star in Canada and got another chance. Heck, Kurt Warner was cut in GB and had to go a different route. Maybe Tebow can either show he can do it or fizzle away in Canada.

    But for the cards, can’t see that ever happening.

  71. By SFM on Apr 1, 2013 | Reply

    As a season ticket holder and someone that wants to watch quality FB I trust that BA is going to make the right QB choice. Will it be Stanton Palmer or a draft choice? We will not know for a while. What took place with QB play the last couple of years made watching the Cardinals painful.

  72. By sbrown on Apr 1, 2013 | Reply

    maybe two years ago, before the Kolb trade, we could have traded the same 2nd round pick for Palmer. ( I never liked the Kolb trade, thought it was more “local media” driven ). Now with BA / Keim, the Cards need to do just what they are doing, building up by filling needs AND keeping Salary Cap sanity. All we hear is how BA will coach up the young QB’s, lets go to camp with the four we have now on the roster and see what BA can do. ( remember none of the QB’s have been on the field with BA as the Cards Head Coach,re: new CBA , other than Stanton last year in Indy. That and Palmer will want to break the bank with a 10 + million deal, no lets stay the course and build right.

  73. By clssylssy on Apr 1, 2013 | Reply

    8 Million and a 4th round draft pick seems like a bit much for somebody the Raiders are so anxious to get rid of. From everything I read this guy seems to have a rather entitled attitude and he is only mediocre at best. Granted, it’s possible that he didn’t fit the scheme they were using, but I think I remember someone saying recently a team has to build around the quarterback’s skill set and adjust accordingly?? I’m OK with taking a FA veteran for the short-term but wonder if the Cards had any interest in Flynn. I see that Seattle is interested in Leinert to backup Wilson which makes sense given his relationship with Carroll. The QB situation doesn’t look bright and I agree with Sarah and wonder if Skelton couldn’t be worked with and “coached up”; he has the arm and the physical attributes and showed promise at the end of 2011.
    …and Timmy, to use Palmer and Warner in the same sentence is laughable…obviously you are new to Cardinal land.

  74. By MIKE HADZINSKI C.M. PUNK on Apr 1, 2013 | Reply

    isn’t this the scrub that we picked off like 5x in a single game lol johnny manziel here we come baby……

  75. By Scott H on Apr 1, 2013 | Reply

    Timmy -

    OK. I see what you are saying. Going by the exact wording of the post you are responding to, then you are right. We ceratinly do have something to show for Warner. But you and I might agree that Kurt Warner showed a level of greatness at one point in his career that none of these other guys ( including Carson Palmer ) ever did. So, at least with Warner, there was the POSSIBILITY that he could be that great again. Thank God that possibility was realized.

    To Anyone Else -

    Looks like the deal for Palmer is being worked on, so…I guess it’s gonna happen. It’s certainly not the worst thing in the world. But I maintain that it’s NOT the long-term solution that we need at QB. So…in that sense, QB remains very much a primary need for this team.

    If Palmer were viewed as a QB for the future, why isn’t he still with the Bengals? He was, what, 30 when the Bengals decided to draft a young QB and go in that direction? Clearly, the Bengals didin’t see a future there when Palmer was a few years younger than he is now.. Obviously, the Raiders didn’t see a future there, either. Yes, darren has pointed out that the Raiders may have wanted him at a reduced price. But let’s be honest – in a league where QB’s are central to success, teams who have anything close to an elite QB or even a proven solid winning QB are probably going to pay what they have to to keep them. Aren’t they???

    It will be interesting to see what the Cardinals have to pay for Palmer. Because whatever that is, I just find it hard to see that as an investment in the future. Therefore, i wonder if it is actually DETRACTING from our future more than it is helping us in the present. And with that said, I’m gonna try to just shut up about Palmer becasue I’m just saying the same thing over and over at this point.

  76. By martin on Apr 1, 2013 | Reply

    IDK Y Cards are trying to make a move on the guy!!! draft Arizona QB Matt Scott 3 round!! going to laugh when he breaks out next season and we pass on him!! im gunna say i told you soo!

  77. By gunny56 on Apr 1, 2013 | Reply

    pls no more over the hill ready to retire players.. we need players with a pulse

  78. By Fatdog on Apr 1, 2013 | Reply

    Palmer is the best option if any one can tell me who would be better i am all ears there is no QB in this draft so Plamer will make this team at least watchable this year then draft a QB next year when there will be better options.

  79. By TheDuke on Apr 1, 2013 | Reply

    Come on. Palmer will not help. An aging veteran will get a team nowhere. My opinion is focus on getting an offensive line that doesnt act like 5 year olds, then the running game, and THEN, when the next quarterback with a future pops up, BOOM! Grab him. Slow and steady wins the race.

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