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The GM the day before the draft

Posted by Darren Urban on April 24, 2013 – 3:02 pm

Had a chance to talk to General Manager Steve Keim the day before the draft one last time. Here are the highlights and you can take it for what it’s worth, especially knowing Keim is ultra-aware of the smokescreens. But a couple of things really rang true, especially since – without knowing how the Cardinals graded prospects — it doesn’t give away anything:

– The most important thing is Keim’s philosophy on picking through the Top 120 board. Keim has always been a proponent of going with elite over all else (how often is that possible, right?) and while sometimes that dovetails with biggest need, sometimes it doesn’t. For example, if Luke Joeckel was there at No. 7, I think that would match both elite and need. Joeckel isn’t going to be there at 7. Who is? We don’t know. But Keim knows through which prism the Cards will make the pick.

“Everyone is putting us with an offensive lineman,” Keim said. “One of my stongest philosophy goes back to we are not going to leave an elite player on the board if it’s that elite player versus an offensive lineman we think is (just) a good player.

“We have seven players we are extremely comfortable with and not all are offensive linemen. The decision has been made because we have already talked about it. If it’s a safety or a pass rusher or linebacker, that is a decision we have already talked about and we’re not going to force the pick just because everyone thinks our offensive line has to improve. In the long run, in two years when needs change, you’ve made a huge mistake.”

I know that will bother some out there. But just because they could pass on an offensive lineman in the first round doesn’t mean they will pass on one in the second. Or third.

– Every draft, a team picking not first (and in the Cards’ case, seventh) has to wait to see how it plays out. Most years, however, you can guesstimate pretty well who those top five or six players will be. This year, it feels like there are 10 or 12 guys who could end up in those top six picks, making things a little more difficult to anticipate.

“There is an element of the unknown that is different from years past,” Keim said. “There have been times when you have been able to map out the first six, seven maybe even top 10 picks. This year it is all over the place. This is really the first day I have been able to come up for air, and I have had my television on in the background. It’s probably the worst thing I could have done. The amount of misinformation, in particular when people talk about our pick, it’s amazing.”

– A big reason for the unknown? Keim said he’s never seen a first round with so many projected picks that are projections — guys who just started playing the game or just started playing their position — yet could go in the top 15. Tackle Lane Johnson falls into that category, for instance. Or defensive end Ziggy Ansah. The pass rushers in particular at the top of the board are hard to get a full read on.

“Look at the pass rushers, other than Jarvis Jones, which one of those guys have elite stats?” Keim said.

– Every team has taken and has made preliminary trade calls by now, and the Cardinals are no different. Anything that would happen to trade down would happen when the Cards are on the clock. Trading up (as I’ve mentioned before) is highly doubtful. Not only would a player have to be there the Cards really wanted — and I believe Keim when he says they are comfortable with their top seven — but the compensation to move up would “have to be minimal.” I don’t see a second-rounder as minimal, which would be what it would take to move up much at all.

“We’re not in a position to give away picks,” Keim said.

– So that’s that. The Cards and everyone else will make their picks tomorrow night and we’ll see how much this all matches up with what happens. Certainly it feels pretty wide open. I still think it will be an offensive lineman, but I don’t know which one. If there isn’t a consensus on who the top pick is going to be, what chance is there to guess at 7?


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56 Responses to “The GM the day before the draft”

  1. By Jonathan on Apr 24, 2013 | Reply

    Here’s hoping we see Chance Warmack.

  2. By Buck on Apr 24, 2013 | Reply

    The GM and his group and the coaches have put together a smart and very good plan. For the first time in several years we will get the best out of what we have. It won”t be SuperBowl and probable not playoff, but it be the best of what could be achieved with the team we end up with. That could not be said in the last couple of years.

  3. By Christo on Apr 24, 2013 | Reply

    I hope we end up with Warmack / Cooper OR Jones. Get it down to an O or a D decision.

    Ugh a OG that could come in and upgrade the OL from day 1. That’s what I am talking about. Or a much needed upgrade over Scho and Acho, even though I love them both.

  4. By Terry E on Apr 24, 2013 | Reply

    That’s tough Darren. Dion Jordan is my official pick based on who I think might be there but I am hoping for Eric Fisher, would be OK with Lane Johnson, Dee Milliner or Sharif Floyd. Also would be very happy with Chance Warmack too.

  5. By birdnerd58 on Apr 24, 2013 | Reply

    Here’s hoping we see the best player on the board…something taht has become more of a possibility to me…(and it could be more smokescreens) is the love affair with Tavon Austin, it may be in the realm of possibility that someone that really wants him, may have to get to #7. With the right offer, I say we take it, and here’s a name if we are really wanting to talk ‘elite players…Tyler Eifert! Pluse you get an extra second. It’s no secret Mr. Arians likes to utilize the tight end. We go oline and LB in the 2nd. Think of our o-line like a learning curve, and throw out the stats from last year. Mr. Massie, Brown and and Potter…along with the addition of Potter to be used as needed along with the addition of a 2nd round best available OL, puts us in a much stronger position than most analysts understand. Then you add Tyler Eifert….!!!! Now that is elite!

  6. By birdnerd58 on Apr 24, 2013 | Reply

    Sorry about the bad sentence structure it’s the weekend…lol, and prohibition is no longer an issue. It’s a big mistake to focus on the overall stats, when we should really be focusing on the last 4 to 5 games and Levi’s return.

  7. By birdnerd58 on Apr 24, 2013 | Reply

    I know…it’s not the weekend…just wanted to see if you were really paying attention…lol

  8. By hummer53 on Apr 24, 2013 | Reply

    My upset special, dark horse, whatever number 7 pick for Cards is Texas safety Kenny Vaccaro. FWIW

  9. By D on Apr 24, 2013 | Reply

    My predication if they stay at 7——–STAR Lotulelei!!!!!!!!!

    My sources tell me Cards have him rated higher than L. Johnson, Ziggy, Cooper and Warmack.

    Book it !!!!! (unless the 3 teams ahead of AZ move down–then its a crapshoot)

  10. By Ricardo C. on Apr 24, 2013 | Reply

    idk but I’m pumped frothis draft..I’m hoping we trade down a few spots If all the tackles are gone and pick up warmack in the first round and in the second get olgetree and the guard from Kentucky and in the third get the safety from LSU Eric Reid.

  11. By ored on Apr 24, 2013 | Reply

    could do worse,at least he’s the best at a position of need,who’s to say he would’nt have as much impact at his position as anybody at theirs,and at the end of the day could very possibly be the man.

  12. By Credit Card on Apr 24, 2013 | Reply

    I hope the Dolphins are calling the Cards on th hour. Trade our #1′s and pIck-up one of their second rounders. Warmack or Cooper will fall to #17. two 2nds we could see Cyprien and Ogletree. Armstead, in my opinion could be the best tackle in the draft — and might be available by the 3rd round.

  13. By Eric G on Apr 24, 2013 | Reply

    Mike Mayock just put out his mock draft and he calls Lane Johnson the freakiest tackle he’s ever seen. God I hope we get him. I don’t listen any NFL guy except Mayock. He is almost always spot on with the draft. He has us taking Cooper since the top 3 tackles are off the board. Hope we get Johnson or Cooper.

  14. By Patrick Eagan on Apr 24, 2013 | Reply

    I hope one of the 3 elite tackles are left.

  15. By AzDesertRat1953 on Apr 24, 2013 | Reply

    What if a QB, do not care which, happens to go in one of the first six?

    That would put one more on the board for the Cards to choose from.

    It is a Very long shot but stranger things have happened when No one can say for sure what will happen.

    I for one want to see how it works out, then scrutinize who has been picked. Then determine as to whether it was a good pick or not.
    But then again, opinions are like ears, everybody has at least two.

    No matter what thou, I have a good feeling when it is all said and done, the Cardinals will have the Best players that were available, and hopefully all the Needs and Wants were met.

    GO CARDS!!!

  16. By johnnybluenose on Apr 24, 2013 | Reply

    what say ye? if warmack and milliner are both there at #7 and you have to take one of them, which one do you pick and why?

  17. By Chuck 1 on Apr 24, 2013 | Reply

    At the risk of repeating myself, I refer to the earlier article about Keim’s and BA’s comment about wanting a player who can make an INSTANT IMPACT.
    That pick at #7 will NOT be an OLineman.
    It will be a defensive players.
    Take it to the bank.

  18. By georgiebird on Apr 24, 2013 | Reply

    Darren,
    1)-Cards will trade down a few spots and pick up an extra 3rd rounder.
    2)- Cards will draft an LB or DL
    3)-DD will be traded on draft day

  19. By vegas4u2012. on Apr 24, 2013 | Reply

    I Think at this point we have all heard enough honking..(Like wild geese migrating south at winter time)…at this point,the bottom line is…the NFC WEST,is only getting better..w/49ers/Seahawks,having extra picks…& the Rams improving,Arizona w/high draft picks…Keim & Co.better not screw this one up,or it will,come back and kick them in the ass!…For years to come!!..GO BIG RED.

  20. By Hahawhothat on Apr 24, 2013 | Reply

    The pick is Tavon Austin, IF all tackles are gone. Lane Johnson fits the Elite category based on grade.

  21. By Andy Kw on Apr 24, 2013 | Reply

    The Cardinals should be able to draft OT Lane Johnson since I don’t believe the Eagles and the Lions will be going after one. The Lions should be going after Ziggy Ansah and the Eagles will be pushing for DL Sharrif Floyd. The Chiefs get OT Luke Joeckel, the Jaguars get DE Dion Jordan, and the Raiders get OT Eric Fisher. The Cleveland Browns will get CB Dee Milliner.
    -So basically:
    Chiefs: OT Luke Joeckel
    Jaguars: DE Dion Jordan
    Raiders: OT Eric Fisher
    Eagles: DL Sharrif Floyd
    Lions: DL Ziggy Ansah
    Browns: CB Dee Milliner
    *Cardinals: OT Lane Johnson

    (Lets see how close my prediction is)

  22. By John The Draft Guy on Apr 24, 2013 | Reply

    More and more the draft seems to be coming together.

    1. Cheifs – Fisher
    2. Jags – Joeckel
    3. Raiders trade to lions for Johnson
    4. Eagles – Dion Jordon
    5. Raiders – Sharrif Floyd
    6. Browns – Geno Smith
    7. Cards – Trade to #14 as Panthers come up to land Tavon Austin
    8. Bills – Jonathan Cooper . Yes I put a guard in the top 10.
    9. Jets – Barkavious Mingo
    10. Titans – Dee Milliner
    11. Chargers – Chance Warmack
    12. Dolphins – Xavier Rhodes
    13. Jets – Tyler Eifert
    14. Cards – Kenny Vaccaro

    OK, maybe , maybe not but things I do know.
    **The 3 tackles have no chance getting to 7.
    **Tavon Austin is going to be traded up for somewhere. Rumors are the bill want him. Cam needs help, Saints would be deadly, Rams want him, Vikes could use him.
    **I have been know to say no guards in the top 10. I have two guards in the top 10 and no safeties. What a Hypocrite

  23. By Coach Kevin on Apr 24, 2013 | Reply

    MY FINAL MOCK DRAFT

    1. Jonathan Cooper, G.
    Superior athlete to Warmack. Better zone blocker.

    2. Terron Armstead, T
    Superior athlete with as much upside as Lane Johnson

    3. Vance McDonald, TE
    Great athlete who can block and catch with anyone

    4. J.J. Wilcox, SS
    Great size and speed and a big hitter

    5. Tony Jefferson, FS
    Great size and speed and reads the QB eyes well.

    6. Zac Stacy, RB
    Back to back 1000 yard seasons on a bad team in the SEC. Need I say more?

    7. Michael Mauti, OLB
    Big heart player who dealt with injuries this year. Great motor.

  24. By Campbells on Apr 24, 2013 | Reply

    Hope the analysts are wrong. They say the premier tackles will be gone before we pick.
    If that happens, I’d like to see us pick-up Warmack. He’d be an upgrade. He’s worth the money. He should have longevity, and definitely has, “Elite” potential.

  25. By Cactus jeff on Apr 24, 2013 | Reply

    JTDG
    The debate of Ed Reed over Steve Hutchinson is kind of silly, I will take either one. My concern is the Cardinals take an average LT over the next Ed Reed or Steve Hutchinson. So who are the perennial pro bowlers? My humble opinion is Warmack and Dion Jordan will terrorize the NFL.

  26. By Nick on Apr 24, 2013 | Reply

    Arizona Cardinals mock draft:
    #7 pick – Dion Jordan, DE/OLB, Oregon
    other possible pick: Jonathan Cooper, OG, North Carolina
    #38 pick – Larry Warford, OG, Kentucky
    other possible picks: Kevin Minter, ILB, LSU; Alex Okafor, DE/OLB, Texas
    #69 pick – Mike Glennon, QB, NC State
    other possible pick: Barrett Jones, G/C/OT, Alabama
    #103 pick – Montee Ball, RB, Wisconsin
    other possible pick: T.J. McDonald, S, USC
    #140 – David Bass, DE/OLB, Missouri Western
    other possible pick: A.J. Klein, ILB, Iowa Stte
    #174 pick – Ricky Wagner, OT, Wisconsin
    other possible picks: Knile Davis, RB, Arkansas; Omoregie Uzzi, OG, Georgia Tech
    #219 pick – Denard Robinson RB/WR/KR, Michigan
    other possible picks: Josh Johnson, CB, Purdue; Lawrence Okoye, DE/DT England

    Just my guess at the Arizona Cardinals 7 round mock, I’m more than likely way off, but it’s fun trying to guess the night before the draft starts. THOUGHTS?

  27. By Christo on Apr 25, 2013 | Reply

    If we can sell the #7 and stay inside the Top 20 we should. I’d go so far as to say we should sell Johnson if he was there for us.

    OG OLB are our two biggest needs and there are premium players that we could get in the Teens.

  28. By Louisville Card on Apr 25, 2013 | Reply

    @JTDG

    I like your picks, but why trade back? The closer we get to the draft the more I think they should pick Tavon.

    He will be the most impactful player in the draft this year. So why pass on him because it’s not a high area of need? BPA would be to pick Austin. Any other pick would be drafting for need. He will score touchdowns and pair him with Fitz and Palmer that would be lethal. It would equate to passing on Peterson. You can pick up Warford in the second to shore up the interior line. Then the offense would be top 10 easy next year.

  29. By DontTakeLosses on Apr 25, 2013 | Reply

    Read above, good stuff.

    Cards fans are stoked, sweet. Read above ” It won”t be SuperBowl and probable not playoff”. The only thing you ever know is you never know, bro;)

    Btw, agree, Mayock knows a lot. His analysis is filled with keen insights based on well informed high IQ football critical thinking.

    My WAG (wild ass guess) is Cooper, Jordan or Floyd. Hope for trade down to 11-15 though. Could end up with 2 OL and 2DL/LB.

    Go Cards, lol…DTL

  30. By Jason on Apr 25, 2013 | Reply

    @Cactus Jeff

    The Ed Reed or Steve Hutchinson debate had nothing to do with tackles or pass rushers. We were talking about top 10 picks and what positions were worthy of those picks. JTDG’s contention is that safties are play makers and are worthy of the pick while guards are complimentary players and are not. The Reed/Hutchinson question is just his way of trying to illustrate that point.

    Who is the average LT you’re referring to?

  31. By DontTakeLosses on Apr 25, 2013 | Reply

    Darren:

    Is Steve “li’l Bruce” Keim, Bruce Arians’ son?

    DTL

    …or younger twin;) they look, act more alike than my twins…

  32. By Sean44 on Apr 25, 2013 | Reply

    I think in the long term, 10 year generalize template, a target of 2 linemen in the first round, 2 in 2nd round, 3 linemen in the 3rd round… just a general format.

    That way the human resource strategy makes sure the development and quality backups are there.

    But that is only a guideline to supplement the decision of picking the 4 or 5 great players on the board when picking.

    You have 4 or 5 players you did all your homework on, and you got to pick one. A holistic weighting system could help keep the human resource needs in stock..

    Eventually it falls one BA to make sure these players are taught up, and play at their highest level. But BA needs 2 1st round, and 2 2nd round linemen talent to work with.

  33. By DontTakeLosses on Apr 25, 2013 | Reply

    PS: Ok, maybe not twins, but they look more like father and son than those fat guys on Pawn Shops on cable tv, lol.

    PS: I love these guys…

  34. By straussyno1 on Apr 25, 2013 | Reply

    If Tavon Austin and a player of need are graded fairly similar – I believe they will take the need position. BPA is only half the process. If you have a need and it happens to be one of the BPAs then you have your pick.

  35. By straussyno1 on Apr 25, 2013 | Reply

    The draft is surely a mix between need and BPA. Arians even said that if two players are graded similar, take Austin and Cooper/Warmack for example, then they surely go need first even if Austin is rated slightly higher. As Keim said, if your board is set correctly you have a position of need coinciding with one of the BPA.

  36. By John The Draft Guy on Apr 25, 2013 | Reply

    Louisville Card

    Why trade down:

    With the starting three WRs and the two TE system Arians has run before, Ausin seems to be a luxury. Now, if we had passed on Floyd last year and drafted correctly, Austin would be a great pick.

    My thought is, Arians wants to use Josh Cribbs the same way Austin would be used.

    Austin seems to be the perfect bait. To come down to 14 and then have a pair of twos, we could address safety with Vaccaro, OLB with Jamie Collins and Address our future LT in Terron Armstead.
    Just makes sense to me.

  37. By sbrown on Apr 25, 2013 | Reply

    to Sean 44, yes O-Linemen are important and the Cards history proves it. In draft years 2007 to 2011 the Cards only drafted three lineman out of 36 picks. ( 2007, 08, 09 ) No linemen drafted in 2010 and 2011. Cards were lucky that they drafted three last year, with injuries all three were needed to finish out the season.

  38. By Cactus jeff on Apr 25, 2013 | Reply

    @Jason

    I just don’t like light LTs. I heard Fisher say he has trouble staying above 300lbs. A converted QB to LT screams of trouble holding weight. I am not saying they won’t be starting LTs in the league, they might be, but if you can get a Hutchinson/Reed versus “just another player (LT)”, I say get the hall of fame S or G.

  39. By Bill L on Apr 25, 2013 | Reply

    IMO the LTs go 1,2,3 or 1,2,4…….If the Cards are stuck at 7, hopefully Jordan is available, but I think they will be choosing between Warmack and Cooper. I prefer Cooper since he is projected to be able to play G or C.

    7 could be a good spot for someone to come up for Tavon Austin,…. might get lucky and get a trade down.

  40. By Jason on Apr 25, 2013 | Reply

    Cactus jeff,

    So…because you don’t like lighter LT’s that makes these guys average players? I think you should consider that the premier pass rushers in the league are athletic speed rushers Clay Matthews, Von Miller come to mind as well as Aldon Smith, Chris Clemons, Robert Quinn, Chris Long, Cliff Avril all of whom play in our division. Out of the top 20 sack leaders last year only 6 weighed over 275 while 11 were sub 260. Not to mention all three of these tackles benched 27+ reps at the combine demonstrating that they have the strength. The draft is about scouts ability to access a players ability to succeed in the NFL…you can look at all of the busts and late round/undrafted players in and out of the NFL to see that it isn’t an exact science. My point is you’ve determined because you don’t like lighter LT’s that they are average players while you’ve annointed that Warmack and Jordan are going to be pro bowlers…based on what? It’s cool if you don’t want us to draft a LT…it’s cool if you don’t like lighter LT’s but why do you pretend to know that these guys will be average players? Just a thought.

  41. By ored on Apr 25, 2013 | Reply

    there’s enough talent to get a burner and a te later,i like austin and eifert also and my 1st thought was that was the best offensive move,but really the greater need is o-line,linbackers,and safetys,get the quality there because it pays dual divedends,ie:pass protection,rushing,sacks,and stonewalls the ground attack,then add to recieving corps,it’s not like we suck there.

    it would be nice to see our board but then they’d probably have to off us,lol.my thought is guard is paramount,at least 1 quality guard,and pass rusher,then a scheme change on defense and an addition to finally stuff the run.it would also be nice to bring back rhodes,but if not then it’s time for the safetys to stand up and be accounted for.

    we need to get better as a team,not offense for a couple of years then defense for a few,but as a whole team at the same time,if we had our defense now when kw was qb,we would have rings already.our division has exploded and we need a complete team to compete,definately needed the coaching upgraded,it was like we were doing coaching 101 from 15 yr.old steeler handbook,if it’s not working,just keep trying,lol.well those old examples had great defense AND offense with swann,bradshaw,steel curtain,etc. so could make that work.

    just good to know that we get a fresh start with new gm,coaches,and their 1st draft-do it right and do it your way.

  42. By Tyler on Apr 25, 2013 | Reply

    Darren,

    There are a lot of smokescreens and a lot of misinformation put out by teams leading up to the draft. It seems like some of it is to threaten to take a player the team doesn’t really want so that another team will trade up to get the player.

    Why don’t teams ever trade a player just after he’s drafted, when the team trading for him is on the clock? Then there’s no need for smokescreens. Is it out of courtesy to the player that they don’t do that? I’ve never seen it happen, but maybe it has. If it is out of courtesy to the player, that seems strange in a league where players can be cut mid-contract.

    I don’t pay enough attention to college to pretend to evaluate players, but what I hear is that this year’s draft is deep and next year’s is expected to be more top-heavy. It can be risky, but what about trading this year’s first round pick for someone’s first pick, and maybe another pick, next year? Having a high pick this year doesn’t seem so great.

    Good stuff, as always, Darren.

  43. By Darren Urban on Apr 25, 2013 | Reply

    Tyler –

    RE: Trade player for pick

    I don’t believe you can do that. I think if you wanted to trade a guy who was picked, you have to have two guys picked and swap them then.

    As for trading for next year, the rule of thumb is next year picks are worth less than this year in the same round.

  44. By Mike Ellingboe on Apr 25, 2013 | Reply

    @Jason,

    That’s not what I hear Cactus saying. I think his concern is that he sees a couple of the LT’s as unproven, and they may end up being average players at the next level. Whereas he believes there’s a lot less to question about Warmack, Cooper, Vaccaro, etc.

    Not saying I agree with all of it, but some of it I’m sure is being debated as we speak. There isn’t a starting LT in the league I could find that is under 300 (although quite a few weigh in just over it), but getting past the subjective definition of “light,” in watching Lane Johnson (albeit briefly) I have concerns of how he’d handle a true bull rusher like Justin Smith, as the notoriously weak Big 12 defenses didn’t really give us concrete evidence to go on (at least in the handful of games I watched). He is still very green in the run game, doesn’t get much push at all. I have less concerns about Fisher after watching him against Big 10 competition. His belief about a guy like Warmack probably stems from seeing him dominate the likes of Logan, Jenkins, and pretty much everyone else he locked horns with, like highly ranked LB’s (Teo, Ogletree) he made look like blocking sleds.

    But again, I think he’s speaking more in general terms. If a consensus draft and play Guard or Safety is available, take them over LT’s with question marks. If so, I think we’d all agree with that, but obviously I understand you taking him to task for only mentioning weight as a criteria for not liking Johnson or Fisher. The latter would be my first choice, if it were at all realistic (which we know it isn’t), and I think Johnson is a tremendous pass blocker, just not a finished product.

  45. By John The Draft Guy on Apr 25, 2013 | Reply

    Tyler and Darren

    Picking a player then trading;

    Manning and Rivers comes to mind. The Chargers choose Manning and Giants with the 4th pick choose Rivers. They swapped players plus NY gave up a bunch more.

    But what would have happened if the third pick, belonging to the Cards took Rivers? The Chargers would have been stuck with a QB who refused to play for them and missed out on the guy they wanted. Big risk to pick someone elses player in hopes to trade for someone they may get.

    I know the cards liked Big Ben, but think of the ripple effect if the cards picked Rivers . Brees most likely stays in SD. The saints without Brees, dont win, and after Katrina, moves to San Antonio. Meanwhile, Warner never is signed because Rivers is here throwing to Boldin. Rivers may have saved Denny’s job, leaving Whiz coaching somewhere else.. Warner never gets his chance and misses out on the Hall of Fame. Manning threating to sit out is still traded to NY, while the Chargers have the 4th pick and take Fitz? Meanwhile, Brees, LT and Gates, and Fitz lead SD to a couple of Super bowls. While card fans never get to see the magical 2008 season between Fitz and Warner because it didn’t exist.

    So, tell me the draft is not the most important thing a team can do? :)

  46. By John The Draft Guy on Apr 25, 2013 | Reply

    Amendment to my draft above;

    Jets to take EJ Manual with the 13th pick? Dont be surprised.

    Cards with 14th pick Tyler Eifert. He and Housler would be a deadly pair. Of Course Arians was only the OC with the Colts but look at last years draft. QB, TE, TE.
    The Cards have Palmer and Housler. Eifert makes a huge impact.

  47. By John The Draft Guy on Apr 25, 2013 | Reply

    Joeckel apparently has been told by KC that Fisher is their pick. 1 hour ago

    OK, I’m 1 for 1. in my picks above

  48. By ored on Apr 25, 2013 | Reply

    jtdg-don’t go breaking your arm congratulating yourself ,show has’nt even started yet.would be ok with eifert @ 14 and guard,lb,safety 2nd and 3rd rounds,all the better if someone drops to us.like your thinking for positions/picks,keep hitting em out of the park.

  49. By ored on Apr 25, 2013 | Reply

    with the depth and quality of this draft,everybody will improve somewhere,that being the case,we need to improve everywhere we pick to make up ground in our division.we’ve set the team up to be solid,now use the draft to be spectacular,seattle came from nowhere in a very short time,we need a solid game plan and much success in the draft.i think we also have come a long ways from last year already,time for keim to step up to the plate,his time to shine and lead us back to the top.

  50. By Tyler on Apr 25, 2013 | Reply

    Thanks for answering my question, Darren. And special thanks to John the Draft Guy for making me regret the question and blowing my mind with an alternate universe theory. :)

  51. By Jason on Apr 25, 2013 | Reply

    @Mike

    His first comment was referring to JTDG’s question about Hutchinson/Reed, which was taken completely out of context. He said his concern was that we’d draft an average LT over the next Reed or Hutchinson and then said he felt that Warmack and Jordan would be perinnial pro bowlers who would terrorize the NFL.

    I asked him who the LT’s were that he was referring to….his follow up stated that he was speaking of Fisher and Johnson because they were light (both guys weighed in over 305lbs at the combine so his comment wasn’t even true). He then said he’d rather see us get the next hall of fame G or S vs. drafting just another player at LT.

    So if you’re keeping score, he called them average twice and stated he didn’t like his LT’s light. He never once stated anything about experience, strength of conference nor did he ever explain why the players he liked would be hall of famers.

    My response wasn’t meant to be insulting…of course if you KNEW that Warmack or Vaccaro were going to be hall of famers and you were merely guessing about Johnson or Fisher’s career you’d draft the HOF’er…but, NOBODY knows if Warmack or Vaccaro are going to be HOF’ers. They are guessing about everyone, every player in the draft has questions whether it’s experience, production, athletic ability, injuries, character, work ethic, weight issues…ect.

  52. By Jason on Apr 25, 2013 | Reply

    I now hope everyone was right about the LT’s :)

  53. By Jason on Apr 25, 2013 | Reply

    And my nightmare comes true….terrible

  54. By Eric G on Apr 25, 2013 | Reply

    God I hope we pick Cooper and not Smith.

  55. By Eric G on Apr 25, 2013 | Reply

    YEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!

  56. By Jason on Apr 25, 2013 | Reply

    I’m happy…we needed a guard.

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