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Shuffling QBs again and Dansby’s number

Posted by Darren Urban on May 13, 2013 – 12:52 pm

The Cardinals are moving on from quarterback Brian Hoyer — it’s not official yet, but it’s coming it’s official now — and that isn’t a big surprise. With a salary due of more than $2 million after getting a RFA tender, Hoyer didn’t make sense as a third-string QB and it didn’t look like he’d jump Drew Stanton, a Bruce Arians favorite, as a backup. It’s obviously good news for Ryan Lindley, who struggled mightily last season when he played as a rookie but still showed some flashes. It doesn’t mean Lindley is a lock to stay — you never know what young QB might fall into the market the Cards would want to jump on — but it’s Lindley for now. The Cardinals will have four QBs on the roster at some point. They did just have a tryout QB in this past weekend in Purdue’s Caleb TerBush.

– Karlos Dansby picked a jersey number and with it, the reality of being a rookie comes into focus. Dansby will wear No. 55, since Daryl Washington has Dansby’s old No. 58. Now, 55 had been issued to fourth-round pick Alex Okafor. Dansby gets what he wants though. So Okafor got No. 57 instead. That was taken, you say? Yes it was, by undrafted rookie linebacker Kenny Demens. Now Demens will wear No. 45, and the pecking order is established in exactly the way you’d think.

– The Cards restructured their front office with some promotions and new scouts. One of the big things to take from it is that the team continues to grow in numbers its scouting staff like it has with the coaches. Another step forward for General Manager Steve Keim as he reshapes the football side of the building.


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33 Responses to “Shuffling QBs again and Dansby’s number”

  1. By G Witt on May 13, 2013 | Reply

    It’s to bad about Hoyer, I liked him. Hope he gets picked up by another team. Not crazy about Lindley. I didn’t see much promise from him when he played last year, but with the new coaching staff, maybe he’ll improve and prove me wrong.

  2. By zbot on May 13, 2013 | Reply

    hope hoyer catches on somewhere (i still saw some potential in skelton but…)

    Darren…the more camp video the better. i’m just saying.

  3. By Michael S on May 13, 2013 | Reply

    I’ve been hearing a lot of criticism towards the Cardinals because they are letting Hoyer go instead of Lindley. Didn’t BA say at one point during this process something about Lindley possibly being a developmental QB? Also, since Palmer is getting older, do you think that the plan is to get Drew Stanton a couple of years behind him before HE takes over the reigns?

  4. By Darren Urban on May 13, 2013 | Reply

    Michael S —

    RE: QBs

    I think the QB situation, especially without a long-term answer in place, is always year-to-year.

  5. By craig on May 13, 2013 | Reply

    Shuffling of the numbers is funny. So glad that Karlos and the team worked it out. Seeing the interview with him and how much he wanted to play again for the Cardinals for so refreshing and awesome to see. Getting really excited for this season. Can’t wait. GO CARDS. Love how all the media still has us as one the worst teams in the league. Prove them all wrong GO CARDINALS.

  6. By desertspin on May 13, 2013 | Reply

    Understand why they had to put Hoyer on waivers, but NO WAY will Ryan Lindley ever be a QB in the NFL. He really stunk it up last year & he wasn’t even that good in college. Don’t think he’s even viable at third string. Really good way to demoralize this team & a lot of fans if they let him back out on the field.

  7. By fortun8s on May 13, 2013 | Reply

    Everyone is waiting with baited breath as to the 911 phone call being made public, which was placed by Washington’s girlfriend. The proof of guilt or innocence will be by trial which probably will be put off until after the season. Washington is great trade bait at the present time, while everything is in limbo, and would also provide significant cap space. There is no telling if or when he will be able to take the field as a cardinal or as someone else’s problem. Cardinals should take the money and run!

  8. By D on May 13, 2013 | Reply

    Darren

    Remind me again on D. Colledge cap number again? June 1 cut can split the number to go against this year and next, right

    thanks

  9. By Darren Urban on May 13, 2013 | Reply

    D —

    RE: Colledge

    Cap number is $7.3M.

    Yes, it can be split.

    I expect him to stick around though.

  10. By carlo milano on May 13, 2013 | Reply

    Darren
    Do u know if kelemete could be project to play center?

  11. By alexmannsportskings on May 13, 2013 | Reply

    Darren, with Hoyer going… Does this open the door for Caleb TerBush?

  12. By Leeskicitizen on May 13, 2013 | Reply

    Darren

    Inquiring minds want to know how the release of Brian Hoyer affects our cap. Does he still get the money?

  13. By scuba_steve on May 13, 2013 | Reply

    Should have kept Skelton, yes he sucked in 2012 with exception of Green Bay but so did the whole team. Skelton had a great 2011 which is more than Lindley showed. I think Skelton is better than Stanton and the Bengals lifted him right away which shows allot. Wish Hoyer luck out there but he really does not have allot of real playing time !

    I think Skelton should have been allowed to play more in Atlanta after coming off a good Green Bay game. Yes he missed Fitz but that is Skelton early, he would have won that Jets game. Whiz set him up to fail in Seattle.

  14. By Darren Urban on May 13, 2013 | Reply

    Carlo —

    RE: Kelemete

    Haven’t heard that. He was a tackle in college. I would doubt it.

  15. By Darren Urban on May 13, 2013 | Reply

    Lees —

    RE: Cap/Hoyer

    Hoyer does not get his money and it is no hit on the cap.

  16. By Dynosoar on May 13, 2013 | Reply

    Craig,

    I remember last season someone posted the following quote and it so downright funny and true that I’ve remembered it. Whoever I’m quoting, please feel free to claim it.

    “If we were the only team in the NFL the media would proclaim the Cardinals the worst #1 team in history.”

  17. By Kyle on May 13, 2013 | Reply

    Hey Darren kinda of topic but all this talk about watford has made me think about kelemete. You think he has a shot to start at some point or is he starting to fall out of their plan?

  18. By truths4all on May 13, 2013 | Reply

    Lindley is a nice guy, but unless there is a miracle in his abilities, his notoriously poor accuracy will mean (despite the pretty ball he throws, you know, the one the mesmerized Whiz to no end) he will get cut as soon as his poor accuracy and decision making shows up in the OTAs and TerBush connects on a few bombs. After that, the QB room will be all BA guys.

    BTW, it will be very, very interesting to see if Skelton can recover from Whiz’ ‘special’ QB training that has ruined every QB it has touched except for Warner who ignored Whiz when Whiz tried to change Warner’s game. Under Denny Green, Leinart was an excellent NFL QB prospect who performed well. Under Whiz, Leinart became a wreck and as bad as JaMarcus Russell

  19. By tbru on May 14, 2013 | Reply

    I doubt anyone can judge Lindley based on last year. Whiz never should have thrown him in the deep end that way, He wasn’t going to fix any holes in the Titanic. Short of a few stars, rookie QB’s don’t play that much. That being said if a better option for 3rd QB falls in our lap, and the price fits the cap, the Cards should go with the best option.

  20. By calvinaz on May 14, 2013 | Reply

    Just a question, did we sign Matt Summers-Gavin as a UDFA or not? NFLN says yes, but other told me we didn´t sign him.

  21. By D on May 14, 2013 | Reply

    I doubt they would keep more than one backup G on the roster during the season.(usually dress two backup OL during the year in which Potter will be one of them) Which means half of this group could be gone by end of training camp: Kelemete, Chilo R, Colledge and Watford (4th round pick will make the roster)

  22. By clssylssy on May 14, 2013 | Reply

    This is discouraging! Hoyer was light years better than Lindley and to let him go doesn’t inspire faith. Lindley as a development project? ROFL…excuse me but this is seeming more and more like a political campaign where we’re having “favorites” brought in based on nothing more than a coach’s fondness while others who have worked hard for this team and showed themselves to be loyal and solid players are tossed aside because of their associationn with the previous regime. All the one and two year contracts seem a lot like “sandbagging” to get compensatory draft picks another year and while this may not be illegal yet, I can only imagine how our fans would react if the 9ers or Seahawks did something like this–they would scream their heads off (it does seem like a very Pete Carroll thing to do). In the meantime rather than signing proven names in the FA and draft, we are adding more support staff so that the front office is nearly the size of our roster! It seems we have a Svengali behind the curtain and while I applaud the organization’s efforts to educate themselves and our players by bringing in some knowledgeable professors, other teams are hiring consultants who are experts in special areas like defending against the pistol and read offense and we are back to square one and not having a solid QB core. Is Carson Palmer an upgrade…possibly, but we are back to having two mediocre starters and no depth in an area EVERYONE blamed our lack of wins last season on.

  23. By D on May 14, 2013 | Reply

    If Max Starks is signed then I assume Potter would be a Right Tackle or G backup

  24. By Darren Urban on May 14, 2013 | Reply

    Kyle —

    RE: Kelemete

    We will see. Haven’t had a ton of practice time yet.

  25. By Darren Urban on May 14, 2013 | Reply

    calvin —

    RE: Roster

    Here is the roster: http://www.azcardinals.com/team/roster.html

  26. By xBIGxMx on May 14, 2013 | Reply

    another unexpected move lol but again I will wait for that first snap before I start asking “WHY?” or sayiing “HE’S NOT GOOD ENOUGH”.

    Darren – I was going through the roster yesterday, I know some cuts still need to be made but how much will the roster remain the same, I see we have 9 CBs, 6 RBs and 13 WRs, is all that part of the type of ofense AR runs?

  27. By sbrown on May 14, 2013 | Reply

    good move for the salary cap, no way Cards should pay Hoyer 2 mil, to be the third string QB. Better to cut him, and use the cap money somewhere else. As for last year with Lindley, no way he should have played, he was known as the developmental QB, but due to injury he had to play. Really has a better chance this year to see what he can do with BA and new coaches. Also as a sixth round pick, Cards not paying a ton of money for him, so it’s all good. For their fourth QB, TerBush fits the bill, tall 6’5, 225 has strong arm, and really got him on the cheap.

  28. By Darren Urban on May 14, 2013 | Reply

    xBIG —

    RE: Roster

    With 90 guys, that’s a pretty typical breakdown.

  29. By xBIGxMx on May 14, 2013 | Reply

    Darren –

    Oh ok, cool!! can’t wait!!!

    and thanks

  30. By monzz on May 15, 2013 | Reply

    Thank God Mr. Bidwill got rid of Whiz N Punt and his cronies!!!!

  31. By Kevin S on May 15, 2013 | Reply

    Been away for a while, just getting back. Clssylssy — I can understand thinking Hoyer is better than Lindley, but honestly, how much do we know about Hoyer? He played in 2 games for us, completing a Skelton/Lindley-like 56% of his passes with 1 TD and 2 INT’s and a 6.2 YPA. In any case, even if you think he’s better, you can’t be serious with your comments about comparing the choice to keep Lindley over Hoyer to a “political campaign.” The new regime has nothing invested in either Hoyer or Lindley, and if you’re talking about loyalty, etc. — well, Hoyer has been a Card for less time than Lindley, so that comment doesn’t even make sense. The main factor is money. We signed Hoyer to a 2M tender offer when we didn’t even have Stanton yet much less Palmer. But things have changed… there is very little chance that our #3 QB (whether Lindley sticks or it’s someone else) sees any playing time this year, as opposed to the past couple years when we’ve had injury-prone and/or marginal QB’s like Kolb, Anderson and Skelton. $2M is a lot to pay a guy to hold a clipboard, and it’s not like anyone thinks he’s Steve Young just waiting for his chance behind Montana. He was released by the Patriots because they liked Mallett better. He was undrafted. He’ll be 28 this season. Palmer signed for 2 years so unless he’s a complete bust or gets hurt AND Stanton gets hurt, Hoyer wouldn’t play until he’s at least 30. If he was making near-league-minimum money, maybe you keep him over Lindley, but not 2M.

  32. By cardinalchris on May 15, 2013 | Reply

    For those of you interested in some video of Terbush throwing the ball, try this Purdue WR highlight reel (Terbush is #19). Hard to find highlights of im… looks good though – lot of rollouts and accurate on the run. Looks like 2 views of every play on the video.

  33. By cardinalchris on May 15, 2013 | Reply

    have to paste the link…
    ”’http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0s8KritPLQ&list=PLLSqgO2Ld4BGn5zTSJExf1Rim0dcN6Qyk

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