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Palmer and throwing from behind

Posted by Darren Urban on July 11, 2013 – 10:35 am

The numbers are stark, presented by ESPN analyst Ron Jaworski as he unveiled his rankings of the starting quarterbacks in the NFL. He placed Carson Palmer 23rd in the 32-team league — more on that in a bit — but also talked about some numbers Palmer worked through last season while playing for the Raiders. During Oakland’s 4-12 season, Palmer threw 565 passes in 15 games, with 73 percent of those passes coming when the Raiders were trailing in the game. An astonishing 70 percent came when the Raiders were down by at least seven points.

You can read that a couple of ways. You can read it that Palmer threw for more than 4,000 yards (4,018, to be exact) only because he was throwing all the time. Then again, to come up with 22 TD passes and only 14 interceptions on that many passes — when the majority of the time the other team knew he was going to throw — probably should count for something. Certainly the numbers are much better than what was posted in Arizona behind center last season.

Being ranked 23rd doesn’t exactly engender Pro Bowl hopes here. But here is a sampling of what Jaworski said during his ESPN appearance talking about the new Cards’ QB and it was pretty positive:

“I thought the Cardinals’ trade for Palmer was an excellent move,” Jaworski said. “He will stabilize the Arizona offense and work effectively with new head coach Bruce Arians.

“There’s a disconnect between perception and reality with Palmer. Many think he throws too many interceptions. He only threw 14 last season in 591 drop-backs. A few are dramatic and memorable; those stick out in people’s minds, shaping an image that’s hard to get rid of. … Palmer still has very good arm strength. He has the mentality of a strong-armed passer, willing and confident in pushing the ball down the field. … Palmer can still make those kinds of throws. That ability will fit well in Arians’ aggressive, downfield passing game.

“Palmer will allow the Cardinals’ offense to attack the entire field. He gives Arizona a multi-dimensional passing game. He reads coverage well. He can beat the blitz. He’s efficient in the red zone. He can execute a high volume of offense. I have always liked Palmer. The major concern in Arizona is the offensive line. Palmer is a pocket passer with excellent arm talent, but he needs time and functional space. That’s the unknown as we head into the 2013 season.”

Palmer continues to work with the wideouts as camp approaches. The Cardinals’ defense, meanwhile, should be good enough to make sure Palmer isn’t working from behind quite as often this season.


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11 Responses to “Palmer and throwing from behind”

  1. By mal on Jul 11, 2013 | Reply

    A lot of people disrespect Palmer, like he’s over the hill and his best days are behind him.

    Well, guess what — they said the same damn things about Kurt Warner, and he took us to a Super Bowl.

    It can happen again.

  2. By DontTakeLosses on Jul 11, 2013 | Reply

    Good post, Jaws had some solid insights, hard to imagine his bottom line supported by facts, so its an opinion that Palmer can discredit this year. Giddyup.

    Btw, Darren: do you know when season tix go out?

    Thx, DTL.

  3. By Darren Urban on Jul 11, 2013 | Reply

    DTL —

    RE: Season tickets

    Usually they go out late July. I’m guessing soon.

  4. By Steve Drumm on Jul 11, 2013 | Reply

    Darren: With all due respect, Jaws talks up every QB in the league. I am sure he had glowing praise for the QB ranked 32 on his list as well. He praised Ryan Lindley last season and commented how “bright a future” he has in the NFL, enough said!

  5. By Eazy E on Jul 12, 2013 | Reply

    I have respect for Jaws’s opinion but he been kinda tripping on the QBs rankings. 23rd stinks and it is right on but either way you shake it, Carson wasn’t as decent as his numbers show. Sure, the Raiders had a bad defense, but being behind ain’t just about your d(i.e. Cardinals 2011 and 2012) We we’re playing elite defense the past couple seasons and was almost always behind because of sorry QB play. He also speaks on when he throws the picks, Jaws, that is very important and he knows that. I remember the Atlanta game against the Raiders, they we’re actually in that game and competing and he threw a horrible pass to a waiting Asante Samuel and he took it all the way back for the game winner. Poor throw and all… And that was just one throw, I remember several and I don’t watch Oakland games like that.

  6. By Andy Kw on Jul 12, 2013 | Reply

    Hey Darren,
    I heard that FS Kerry Rhodes is having discussion with 4 teams. Is it possible that the Arizona Cardinals is one of the 4 teams in negotiations with him?

  7. By Dave Chaney on Jul 12, 2013 | Reply

    First of all, there is so much joy in AZ now that for the first time since Kurt retired, the Cards have a QB who is able to throw the ball accurately with a wealth of experience to go along with it. Granted, Carson Palmer has had a few down years, but look at the teams he was with. Like mal said, everyone was saying the same thing about Kurt Warner when he signed with the team.

  8. By Darren Urban on Jul 12, 2013 | Reply

    Andy Kw —

    RE: Rhodes

    I don’t know the teams and I haven’t had a chance to ask here, but I can’t see where he returns.

  9. By Peter in Canada on Jul 12, 2013 | Reply

    The comparisons with Warner are a bit over the top. Warner had HOF seasons in St. Louis. Palmer has never been that good. Warner had bad years through injuries and in NY and the early years in Az he had little opportunity because Eli and Leinart were seen as the future of the teams. That said, I don’t think Palmer has to be as good as Warner because our D is better than it was during the Warner years. The pressure was on the offence in those days to put points on the board.It will not be the same in 2013.

  10. By Leeskicitizen on Jul 12, 2013 | Reply

    I don’t watch many football games other than the Cardinal’s, but I do remember watching a game that Peyton Manning played when he put some passes into the other team’s defense hands, and looked pretty silly doing so.

    I wonder what the touchdown/interception ratio was for those quarterbacks rated higher than Palmer?

    Quite a few people have observed that Carson Palmer is in the best situation in his NFL career. The day he signed his contract at Cardinal’s headquarters he asked for, and received film of Larry Fitz, and before he left the building he had already watched some of that film, and has been seizing what he has already stated to be the opportunity of his lifetime. It seems to me that the Carson Palmer we’ve seen before is only the groundwork for what may be the best years of his career, and we Cardinal’s fans get to watch it happen with our team.

  11. By Cards Season Ticket Holder on Jul 14, 2013 | Reply

    !!!! Bring back the “CARDIAC CARDS” !!!!!!

    The team that had “FIGHT and BELIEF in each other” to make it to the SUPERBOWL. No matter who their opponent was. We can be the division champs this year, in 2013. Just BELIEVE it.
    I believe in the “CADIAC CARDS” !!!!
    We have all the right players we need in all the positions now. Great roster and great coaching.
    LET’S GO Red Birds !!!

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