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Winston could be on the way UPDATE

Posted by Darren Urban on July 24, 2013 – 6:53 pm

On the heels of this morning’s news that the Cardinals are looking at pass rusher John Abraham comes news tonight from SI’s Jim Trotter that the Cards are on the verge of signing veteran offensive tackle Eric Winston to a one-year contract. If Steve Keim gets that done, and manages to get Abraham on a one-year deal too, which is what I would guess it would be for the 35-year-old, it’ll be a pretty significant impact to the roster right as camp is starting. The Cards currently have three open roster spots.

Obviously, the powers-that-be weren’t satisfied with what they saw out of the offensive line. Whether it was Levi Brown or more than that, we will see. Winston, you would think, would be a starting RT. Then again, on a one-year deal (if that is what he gets), they’d have no pressure to play him if he wasn’t the best choice. He has had two teams cut him in two seasons, so, like Abraham, you have to be careful about anointing him savior.

Still, it’d be a quality signing, and give Bruce Arians a lot of flexibility in building a line. You know Jonathan Cooper will be the left guard. Lyle Sendlein will be the center. Could Brown move to guard? Could Bobby Massie? Could the Cards gain further cap space given the contracts of Brown or Daryn Colledge? (Although releasing either would create significant dead money with which to live.)

You look at the list of offensive linemen now: Brown, Cooper, Sendlein, Colledge, Massie, Potter, Watford, Kelemete, Rachal. Then you add Winston, all in a situation where at most you have eight active on Sunday and maybe only seven. That will make for an intriguing camp and a very interesting roster cutdown at the end of the preseason.

UPDATE: Thursday morning, Adam Schefter is reporting the deal is agreed upon, one year with the veteran minimum salary combined with incentives. Nothing official from the team yet. A good get for Keim, and certainly nothing that guarantees Winston a starting spot. He’d seem to be a solid pick, but the Cards aren’t hurt if he is a backup either.


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26 Responses to “Winston could be on the way UPDATE”

  1. By Patrick Hoog aka Don't Take Losses on Jul 24, 2013 | Reply

    Darren: Talk radio: Levi Brown not recovered from surgery AND has a leg or knee injury on top of it> True? If so, Winston signing would be shades of great pivot/recovery by Keim like CarLos after DWash debacle…

  2. By credit card on Jul 24, 2013 | Reply

    Agree, Winston is no savior, could be brought in to increase competition and allow experimentation with various players during pre-season. Brown played better on the right side before moving to LT. Along with the fact he simply does not have the leg turn-over rate to be a tackle in the NFL. I still think experimenting with him a right guard makes sense. If he can’t make it there — time to cut bait.

    Darren, has Potter added weight / strength during the off-season? Does Sendlien appear healthy?

  3. By Steve Drumm on Jul 24, 2013 | Reply

    Darren: I think Winston certainly is being brought in to probably start and play RT. If that scenario plays out what is your best guess as to where Massie ends up on the O-line?

  4. By Leeskicitizen on Jul 24, 2013 | Reply

    Clearly, Steve Keim is a smart leader with a distinct mission, and that is to manifest a superior offensive line. I’m not saying that this is his only mission, but it is an intention that is evident to me, and I’m sure that it’s causing ripples throughout the team. I can sense that he’s definitely in the seat of command, and is making things happen.

    At this point, even though I’ve got my opinions on what could or should be, I’m confident that what will be will be the best decision because of this front office and coaching staff. I’ve never had this much confidence in the team’s leadership before. And, just for the record, I’ve never been a sycophant (suck-up brown noser). I’m just feeling impressed by the continued great moves by the team.

    As a final thought, if Levi is moved to RG and excels like I think he could, he would be better at that position than Chance Warmack. I look at Levi and see an old diamond who is finally getting the polishing he needs to shine.

  5. By Steve Lee on Jul 24, 2013 | Reply

    Why did the Cards draft and trade for defensive players when the O-line was the biggest problem? The defense was one of the best, then they led the good players go. Don’t they want to win? I’m still a Cards fan, but I don’t know why since Warner is gone.

  6. By Darren Urban on Jul 24, 2013 | Reply

    Credit -

    RE: Sendlein/Potter

    Yes, Lyle is OK. Potter has added some strength. The OL will be an interesting unit to watch.

  7. By Darren Urban on Jul 24, 2013 | Reply

    Steve -

    RE: Massie

    As I mentioned above, we will have to see. Got some LT work in minicamp. Don’t see him at guard.

  8. By jeffgollin on Jul 25, 2013 | Reply

    I wouldn’t worry so much about Winston being a better RT than LT. Our overriding concern has to be to achieve stability at LT, and if Winston proves to be best of the bunch there, we’ll just have to “settle” for Massey at RT.

    You never know what you’re getting in a FA until you see him on the field in your uniform. That said – On paper, I like both the Winston and Abraham moves if, in fact, they happen.

  9. By John The Draft Guy on Jul 25, 2013 | Reply

    Darren,
    To be fair, the Texans released him over money issues. He left and signed a big deal with the Chiefs. Which was strange because the chiefs drafted Jeff Allen high in the second round that year. After landing Eric Fisher this year and keeping Brandon Albert on a 1 year deal and Jeff Allen waiting in the wings, It made since that Winstons signing was a mistake.

    As for the cards, this has to signal the end for Levi Brown or Darren Colledge. Which means we have either Potter or RT Massie as our starting LT.

    Remember right after the draft, when we passed on LTs Terron Armstead and Menilik Watson in the 2nd and 3rd rounds, I said the cards fans will be yelling for Lewan or Mathews in next years draft? I am still sticking to that.

    Levi Brown’s dead money is 5.6 million but cap hit is 6.4 million. If released, it would free up 900k this year.
    Colledge is 6.875 of dead money. Cap hit is 7.275million, a release would free up 400k. But next year for both, it would save a ton of money.

    Abraham would be a great signing.But again, that makes for a very crowded OLB position. You have to think Alexander and Acho stick with Abraham and 4th round pick Okafor should be there. Wow, this is going to be an interesting preseason.

    This is something we have never seen the cards do before. At the DB spot, Oline, OLB, ILB, RB, and even that 4th and 5th wr spots, there is heavy competition. Usually cuts are easy to predict but this year, there may be some surprises.
    LT is a huge question mark for the blindside of an aging non mobile QB.

  10. By Brian on Jul 25, 2013 | Reply

    Four months ago, people were complaining about Keim not knowing what he was doing because Winston was available and we didn’t go after him right away to strengthen the offensive line. Well, now we got him on what looks like a one year veteran min contract(instead of a costly multi year deal he was looking for back then), drafted the best Guard in available this year and now Arians and the OL coaches have lots of options and battles going into camp to determine who starts on the OL.

    Not saying he’s solved all of the teams problems but it shows that you don’t need to throw out huge contracts at veterans(who have been cut twice in two years) in order to have a good offseason. Keim’s offseason just keeps getting better

  11. By lg on Jul 25, 2013 | Reply

    The cardinals signed Eric Winston to a one year deal today Steve Keim is the man.

  12. By clssylssy on Jul 25, 2013 | Reply

    I see where Keim just signed Winston without giving away the farm and it’s good to see attention to the O-line FINALLY. With probably the largest group of receivers in the NFL, it’s obvious where BA’s game is going to be and the fact remains that the Cards need a solid O-line with depth or the ability to move players around if the need arise. The addition of Winston is probably the best available (certainly at the price) and I only wish the Cards would start being more aggressive in signing top notch free agents rather than waiting until players have their best years behind and are on their way to retirement. We will never be contenders again if we can’t compete financially. Right now Keim’s first order of business should be to get the Cooper deal done or in the event it’s the Cards with a change of heart, they should “fish or cut bait”. It doesn’t matter that we’ve had players in the past who have started camp without a contract, this is SUPPOSE to be a new era however, so far, all I’ve seen is a shuffling of the Cards! Time will tell…LOL!

  13. By PotAsh on Jul 25, 2013 | Reply

    Darren,

    Any background on why Winston was cut by two teams in two consecutive seasons? Salary too high? Talent not good enough?

    This acquisition asks more questions than it provides answers. I’m very interested in seeing how the OL develops.

    Thanks!

  14. By 602Cards on Jul 25, 2013 | Reply

    I have been a fan since 88. win or loose after dissapointing seasons ( a lot of them) I will always bleed Cardinal red. I will suport my team through good or bad times. I live in Idaho now and even though money is tight I always find a way to take a trip down to the 602 and watch my team! I am proud to say that I have raised 2 boys that have and will love this team no matter what..so I am not here to agree or disagree with anyone..I am just here to say GO CARDS-GO RED SEA- Let’s shock the world! Now let’s go to St. Louis and kick their #%^@!!

  15. By DuaneS on Jul 25, 2013 | Reply

    It just hit me what one of the best things about Keim as GM is…He is being pre-emptive about things. I really liked Rod Graves, but it seemed that we were always reacting to things and scrambleing to correct (or ignoring) problems as they happened. Now we are probably covered for most eventualities on the O-line, and that is pretty nice.

  16. By Dynosoar on Jul 25, 2013 | Reply

    14 Days to Green Bay. Whoohoo! Looking forward to seeing this OLine and more.

  17. By Ben on Jul 25, 2013 | Reply

    Urb,

    Did Massie play LT in college? Too lazy to look up.

  18. By Darren Urban on Jul 25, 2013 | Reply

    PotAsh –

    RE: Winston cuts

    In both cases, it was money related, plus with the Chiefs they were drafting Fisher.

    That said, no one was willing to give Winston a big-money deal this offseason, so there’s that.

  19. By Darren Urban on Jul 25, 2013 | Reply

    Ben –

    RE: Massie

    He was an RT.

  20. By dan on Jul 25, 2013 | Reply

    Winston is a STUD.

  21. By Cheese on Jul 25, 2013 | Reply

    Darren,

    You will probably be flabbergasted by this post, but save cutting Kerry Rhodes, I think the Cardinals have had the best off-season I’ve ever seen from them. They took risks in the draft they’ve never taken. They made big moves to improve the QB position. They shored up holes IMMEDIATELY when problems arose (grabbing Dansby…who the previous FO would likely have never brought back…when Washington got suspended) and the Winston move and Abraham courting all tell me that this team wants to win and isn’t going to rely on low draft picks and UDFA or guys picked up off the scrap heap to try and accomplish that.

    Very, very impressed with the way this FO is handling the rebuilding of the team and can’t wait to see what the season brings!

    Cheese

  22. By ored on Jul 25, 2013 | Reply

    interesting moves,makes practice and preseason well worth watching.
    whether levi just needs more recovery time or another injury i still think the LT position is his to lose,maybe potter starts to buy him some more time,then we need another tackle for backup,hence winston.

    if we do sign abraham it’s probably as a situational rusher and someone to push/teach the younger players,that would be good.could be our defense,while different will have no drop-off and maybe even be better.our secondary will improve imo and run defense gets better,only question is pass rush,to be determined,but even if we must resort to blitzes we have the right guys for that.

    unlike previous regime,not only are we making moves as necessary,we are actually planning ahead,i don’t doubt that next years blueprint ia already being laid out,i think we are graduating to chess,lol

  23. By AzDesertRat1953 on Jul 25, 2013 | Reply

    Looks like we have Two Teams working with each other this year, kinda nice to see the FO working so close With the Coaches and Players.

    This is Not the FO of years past, this is something I could get used to seeing. Kiem and all the rest are looking at any way to improve what he/they have already, even if it is not broke. I Like It!!!

    GO CARDS!!!

  24. By Eazy E on Jul 25, 2013 | Reply

    He is a helluva a lot better tackle PERIOD than Levi, but that ain’t saying much how much Levi has disappointed people. Boy, Bruce looks stupid for saying that ”elite” BS talk. He could be at RT, seemingly because he’s played there his entire career and our LT is a ?…

  25. By dieselbomb on Jul 25, 2013 | Reply

    I agree with you, Cheese. This is a surprisingly Good off-season.

    Whisenhunt, apparently, just let the team be. With Graves, their choices and acquisitions were sketchy – then Whiz/Grimm appeared to “lead” at arm’s distance. It never appeared that they were contributing to any development. The Arians Coaching staff, however, seem hands-on, that they have a well-thought-out plan and are executing the plan, and that they teach at the moment the need arises. Coaches appear to be genuinely involved. Seems like things are moving forward. I”m Jazzed.

  26. By cardsalltheway on Jul 25, 2013 | Reply

    By drafting David Quessenberry(Texans versatile OT/OG) in the 6th round before R. Swope all of this could’ve been avoided. So simple!

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