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Going defensive end in the fifth

Posted by Darren Urban on May 10, 2014 – 12:10 pm

The Cardinals went with a 3-4 defensive end in the fifth round Saturday, taking Alabama’s Ed Stinson. At 6-4 and 287 pounds, Stinson is a prototypical guy to fit up front in the way the Cards play, and scouting reports say he can move inside if necessary. The team went into the draft hoping to get some depth up front. The Cardinals have Campbell, Williams and Dockett, but only Frostee Rucker behind them right now with Alameda Ta’amu coming off ACL surgery. Plus, Dockett will be in to his (pricey) final year of his contract in 2015 and the team must start thinking about the future.

Stinson is really good against the run. He’s been described as the type of underrated player who can be solid for a long time. NFL analyst Mike Mayock said if Stinson can stay healthy — he’s been banged up a couple of times — he is a starter for a 3-4 team in this league. That will definitely help.

Stinson said he grew up with third-round pick WR John Brown in Florida, so the draft class already has a pair of friends.

Mayock, by the way, on the Cards’ entire class so far: “It’s not sexy, but I like this draft.”

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16 Responses to “Going defensive end in the fifth”

  1. By SteveG on May 10, 2014 | Reply

    Agreed re. “Not sexy”, but have to say, all the picks make sense and we seem to have a coaching squad that will develop these young men into pros.

    Days of free agency fixes receding into history?

  2. By Dr. G. on May 10, 2014 | Reply

    Another “needs” pick, but much needed. Let’s hope Stinson and Martin will answer the bell… I am rooting for Ta’ amu to return healthy…he has good upside. Then we’ll be set at DE…..

  3. By Rich on May 10, 2014 | Reply

    The tight end and the edge rusher and brown are all “sexy” picks if you ask me.
    they still need another ilb, rb, otackle

  4. By ored on May 10, 2014 | Reply

    most teams picked sensibly this year which kind of shredded our board.it’s not that we had to reach,rather we had to take the next best.that’s fine,just have to trust the scouting and our coaching.we may have to be a little more patient while players are being coached up,nothing we can do but watch em develop.

    i had reservations on the logan pick,but after doing some research,it may be that our recievers will be a big help to his accuracy,just saying he did’nt exactly have studs to throw to.i can recall warner seemingly throwing up prayers that were answered time and again by fitz and co.

  5. By joe holst on May 10, 2014 | Reply

    They basically got John Brown for free from trading down with the Saints.. The Tackle position I thought should have been addressed. good draft

  6. By eric c on May 10, 2014 | Reply

    love this pick too…can not wait to watch this class bring home a title.

  7. By Big Ken on May 10, 2014 | Reply

    We have plenty of OL guys lying around. Why draft more?

  8. By Pedro on May 10, 2014 | Reply

    Darren-

    Does this draft remind you of days not so long ago – without drafting a single O Lineman ? Especially on a team with nothing to speak of the right side of it’s O Line.

    The Brown and Thomas picks are just bad. Total reaches, and certainly not BPA either !

    Keim’s work just fell back to earth..

  9. By ored on May 10, 2014 | Reply

    it seems obvious that we’re comfortable with the o-line or will look for a FA,so i don’t think that’s an issue,we seemed determined to get help on the return game and we should have enough speed there and in the recieving end,now we have a big TE that should be durable,so we helped the defense and gave palmer more options also,considering many players that were being projected to us were being snapped up right before our pick,i think we did reasonbly well.

    talk about having faith in lovie and his defensive prowess,the bucs are going wild on offense.

    maybe we get a home run with UDFAs,afterall we made hay in regular free agency,would be nice to have all three areas contribute…FA,DRAFT,and UDFA,then toss in our returning injured,things look brighter already,now someone surprise us please.

  10. By cardsalltheway on May 10, 2014 | Reply

    Cardinals get the dubious distinction award for being the first team to select a player below the 5.0 grade

    6th Round # 20th pick (196) Cardinals Powell, Walt WR 5’11” 189 Murray St. (GRADE) = 4.8

    See NFL Draft Tracker…
    http://www.nfl.com/draft/2014/tracker#dt-by-round-input:6/dt-tabs:dt-by-round

    In fact not any other player is graded below 5.0 yet after 31 teams have selected in the 6th round.

    Is this(Walt Powell) WR going to be better than our previously selected 3d round WR in a similar manner in which our last year’s 2nd RB ended up being better than our 1st RB selected last year???

  11. By Matt in ATL on May 10, 2014 | Reply

    Between Alex Okafor, Ed Stinson, and Kareem Martin, it really seems like they’re planning for life without Dockett…

  12. By William Barry on May 10, 2014 | Reply

    I think we hit all the needs, we got safety, DL, DE, TE, WR, and QB selected good job, no, spectacular job, considering we were picking 20th. Really like the speed with John Brown pick…reminds me of Tavon Austin. GO CARDS FOR THE TITLE THIS YEAR!!!!! by the way, Mike Mayock with NFL network gave us a B plus grade, and he really liked our draft. I agree.

  13. By carlo milano on May 11, 2014 | Reply

    I found this comment really interesting on you tube about logan Thomas.
    Too many people post comments here and complaining without watchin him play.this the comment
    ”He was VERY good his sophomore year when they actually had some talent around him on the offense. The last two years, the team had some of the worst offensive talent in the country. His accuracy issues came from a few things he does wrong with footwork (Staying on toes for example) but he CAN be very accurate and can make some throws that only a handful of QBs in the NFL can make.

    Without watching many full VT games it is really hard for most to judge. They don’t realize how hard it is to throw to guys that stop on routes, run wrong routes and can’t catch the football. For most QBs, they could get a one-on-one with a safety and basically put the ball up for grabs resulting in a long completion or PI. When Thomas did that, his WRs had such bad ball skills that the defender would be the only one in the air making a play on the ball and it would results in INTs.

    He became the player that many Hokie fans decided to blame for anything negative that happened. In the Alabama game his receivers had 13 plays where they either dropped a pass or stopped on a route. It got to the point where he could throw a hot read to a WR on a slant route, the WR would completely stop because they didn’t want to get hit and it goes for a pick-6. He was the only thing the VT offense had and he had to force a lot of plays. Sometimes he forced far too much and it resulted in poor decisions on his part.

    He is VERY humble and very intelligent. If he fails, it won’t be because he didn’t apply himself, or work as hard as he possibly could. I would be excited as a Cardinals fan because he isn’t your typical great athlete with potential that lacks intelligence and work ethic. I would not be surprised if he became a great NFL QB but I am sure many other Hokie fans would disagree with me on that.”

  14. By clssylssy on May 11, 2014 | Reply

    Glad to see that Keim put some focus on defense and realizes that in the West especially a superior defense is what will make the difference, and, without Dansby and possibly Washington for a few games, this won’t be what we had last season. While the Rams had an impressive draft, the 9ers offense got even tougher with the addition of Bruce Ellington to go along side of Anquan Boldin and company at a time the Cards are having unhealthy thoughts of Fitz’s cap figure and justifying a trade (me thinks Keim protests too much), I’m sure that nobody will come out and say it but Coach Whisenhunt did pretty good without Graves to pull him under the bus and I’m always happy to see our “formers” do well as it shows the Cards know more than they are given credit for. I think a lot of fans overreacted and it’s too early to tell anything about grading this draft…time will tell.
    It’s about winning games and if Keim/BA can win a Championship with players from Mayberry U, then I’m on board. If we take the time to look around it’s not so much about the raw talent on a team as it is the franchise and the coaches who develop that talent. I’m excited now to see who Keim will be able to sign of the talent pool not drafted as time is of the essence. Let’s get going on the road to reclaiming our division! GO CARDS!

  15. By sbrown on May 11, 2014 | Reply

    Carlo –
    re: L. Thomas,
    one thing I read was that Thomas also had three different OC’s in three years. That would mean re-learning the offense three years in a row. Not the best way to improve your stats.
    I was not on the Johnny Football bandwagon, it would have been ok by me if the Cards did not pick a QB this draft, but I’m good with Thomas. He can come in and learn from Palmer and all the Offense Coaches.
    We will be able to see him at open practice / fan fest then in the pre season.

  16. By Big Ken on May 12, 2014 | Reply

    A couple of mocks had Stinson coming to us as a 3rd or 4th rounder. So Stinson in the 5th round qualifies as a ‘steal’.

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