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Back and forth with Peterson, Sherman

Posted by Darren Urban on May 22, 2014 – 6:21 pm

They played nice for a while. But then the money upped the stakes as did the success of both teams, and it was probably inevitable Patrick Peterson and Richard Sherman would go back and forth about who was a better cornerback. Certainly it is always true for Sherman, who has made it clear he is willing to talk — and often — about everything. Much of the time it is to pound his chest about how good he is. For a while, Peterson decided to be much more low key about things, although it didn’t take long talking to him that he was supremely confident in his own abilities.

Then Sherman got his huge contract extension and Peterson is in line for one himself and naturally, that has led to talk about who is better because it stands to reason Peterson wants more than Sherman got and shouldn’t that only happen if he is better?

The latest back-and-forth came when Peterson talked about Sherman and the Seahawks’ scheme compared to the Cardinals, all on Arizona Sports 98.7 during the Bickley and Marotta show.

“If you look at their scheme and you look at our scheme, he’s a Cover-3 corner, period,” Peterson told the station. “A lot of guys say he’s a shutdown corner, but if you look at film and guys who understand the game, go back and look at film and see how his defense is. I believe if you put him in our system, I don’t think he’d be able to last, honestly, because I’m asked to do much more than he is.”

That, not surprisingly, got national attention. And Sherman’s attention.

 

(I do enjoy Sherman calling Peterson “this kid.” They were both in the 2011 draft.)

Look, Peterson is going to believe he is the best. He does anyway but does it make sense for him to defer to Sherman when that could be a factor in contract talks? Obviously, there are things Sherman has that Peterson wants, like a Super Bowl title and, in many eyes, that top CB title.

Certainly, Sherman is going to believe he is the best. He does anyway and he doesn’t want anyone infringing on that piece of real estate he has so loudly tried to conquer. Peterson has some things Sherman is trying hard to make up for, like a top-five pick status (Sherman was a fifth-rounder in 2011) and some serious popularity. Sherman has made big inroads there, but the way he has gone about announcing his presence with authority has gotten him plenty of critics. Peterson, meanwhile, has taken more of the Larry Fitzgerald road to Q rating.

If nothing else, it adds another layer to the NFC West. Like the powerhouse division needs another subplot.

Never forget though, this is about raising each of their profiles as much as anything. I can’t see why they wouldn’t still trade jerseys or hug it out if they saw each other. Right?

PPSherm

UPDATE: But wait, there’s more:


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56 Responses to “Back and forth with Peterson, Sherman”

  1. By Rich on May 22, 2014 | Reply

    Peterson has good points. But I thought Richard Sherman shouted out to the world, “Don’t ever talk about me”? Ooooohhhh… Can’t wait for the Cards to give ‘em a beat down this year!

  2. By Fan in Chi Town on May 22, 2014 | Reply

    I like Peterson, and he is really good at his job. I know the Cardinals have to extend him, and with the way the league is pass happy now, they definitely should. A great corner is probably just as valuable as an elite receiver. Whenever I see a Seahawks game I am really impressed with Sherman, though. More so than Peterson I would say.

  3. By Rich on May 22, 2014 | Reply

    Fan In Chi –

    I’m curious. What, specifically impresses you more? Just wondering.

  4. By georgiebird on May 22, 2014 | Reply

    Sherman is a loudmouth. He’s also a great corner and a World Champion.
    Patrick is a great talent but he hasn’t won anything, yet. A little better play by Peterson will go a long way toward getting the Cards in the playoffs.
    PP may have a friend in Deion Sanders but his 2013 season could have been a lot better.
    2014 is the season for PP to show that he is the better player. Talk is cheap.

  5. By krehbieo14 on May 22, 2014 | Reply

    Peterson has taken the high road until now. He’s gotten hooked into a meaningless bantering of words with Sherman. In the pro ess, Peterson is using the media to promote his contract wants. Reminds me of Karlos Dansby. I say, shut up and play the game!

  6. By eric on May 22, 2014 | Reply

    Peterson is better any day. Sherman is just a cornerback with a good d fence with him.

  7. By Rich on May 22, 2014 | Reply

    Kreh –

    Agree

  8. By Rich on May 22, 2014 | Reply

    Georgie –

    You hit the nail on the head. I couldn’t agree with you more.

  9. By Rich on May 22, 2014 | Reply

    Sherman is a stats guy playing in a defensive scheme that boosts his stats. People say QB ratings are around 47% when throwing his way. But what does that really show when he goes up against 2′s and 3′s half the time? I’m not saying PP locks it down all the time against 1′s. But he does face 1′s 100% of the time. I personally think Sherman’s stats come down to earth if he faced #1 receivers week in and week out. Just my opinion.

  10. By The most important stat on May 22, 2014 | Reply

    The most important stat is Patrick Peterson gave up 7 touchdowns and got only 3 interceptions, while Richard Sherman only gave up 2 touchdowns and got 8 interceptions. Bottom line, Richard is responsible for more wins for the Seahawks than Patrick Peterson has done for the Cardinals.

  11. By Rich on May 22, 2014 | Reply

    Hey Sherman, you have the ring but be thankful the Cards were one game shy of the playoffs after beating you in your house!

  12. By Rich on May 22, 2014 | Reply

    And btw, it’s Richard She-man in Cards country! Lol

  13. By Rich on May 22, 2014 | Reply

    Please put the Richard She-man comment on your twitter Patrick! Lol. Twitter would EXPLODE if you said it. We all know you think it. Just sayyyy itttt! Lol

  14. By AzDesertRat1953 on May 22, 2014 | Reply

    Remind me again, how many punt returns does Sherman have, how much does he play ST or throwing passes when playing Offence and does he have items in the NFL HOF in Canton, how many Pro-Bowls has Sherman been to?

    I’ll take PP over any of the CB’s in the NFL, because he just keeps getting better and this year it sounds like he will be able to focus on the Defense more and not worry about the offence or ST’s.

    GO CARDS!!!

  15. By Axel on May 22, 2014 | Reply

    It’s not just Peterson, It’s the team and d’sss year we’re taking it and Peterson it’s gonna have his best year yet and kick some serious butt and walk all over that dude Sherman….oooooooooh yeeeeeeeah boooooy!

  16. By cd424 on May 22, 2014 | Reply

    Look for the Cards (and the rest of the NFC West) to attack Sherman this year… especially if Peterson is in with the Offense for a play or two

  17. By LB on May 22, 2014 | Reply

    One thing I really like about the Cards is that for the most part, they let their actions speak for them. Larry has always been a humble man, and even young guys like Michael Floyd and Andre Ellington stay out of the media spotlight and just play hard. I’m losing respect for Patrick Peterson though. It seems that he’s mainly interested in his paycheck and it’s causing him to lose focus. Don’t stoop to Sherman’s level and talk trash. And every extra million that he’s trying to squeeze out of the Cardinals means that they won’t be able to afford quality players in the future. I like him a lot, but he’s not the best corner in the league and he shouldn’t be telling everyone that he is.

  18. By trev on May 22, 2014 | Reply

    richard sherman is a player with a great team but is not the best not saying peterson is too. peterson doesnt get the ball thrown his way much anymore. also there is a reoson why kickers wont kick his way anymore. i think peterson is better because he can make something happen when he gats the ball. now they will probaly get the ball more with the saftey we drafted and picking up antonio cromartie. cardinals willl probaly have a shut down defence and this is coming from a fourteen year old

  19. By Matt on May 22, 2014 | Reply

    They should draw up an offensive play for Peterson to catch a TD over Sherman. That would end the talking.

  20. By Luke on May 22, 2014 | Reply

    PP has never been accused of taking a drug than in improves performance. Cough cough Sherman

  21. By dan on May 23, 2014 | Reply

    Darren,
    What would be helpful for me is if you could explain what a “Cover-3 corner” is, what that means … help us understand the point PP is making. Help us understand in what way PP is asked to do more than Sherman.

  22. By ryan on May 23, 2014 | Reply

    Rich- dont you mean 2 beatdowns, maybe 3?

    it is so much more impressive to see great players do less trash talkin and let their abilities shine on the field along with showing maturity with the media. just like barry sanders said, “act like you’ve been there before”

    i am extremely pumped up for this year! lets dominate and put that trophy in our nest!!!

    GO CARDS!

  23. By JoeC4Karura on May 23, 2014 | Reply

    I wish that they wouldn’t trash talk so much, it just seems childish to me. But I’m glad Peterson pointed out the difference between schemes because it helps me understand just why Peterson is still considered a top 3 corner even though he doesn’t have the interception stats to back it up. He is all over the field every play covering the best wideout of the opposing offense. Sherman is just on the one side of the field(most of the time), and what Peterson said is right. Seattle just has a killer defense and they are gonna get picks all the time, it’s a given. This season though, the Cards D is gonna be more like Seattle’s cuz of the bigger DBs we have aquired through free agency and the draft.
    GO CARDS!!!

  24. By clssylssy on May 23, 2014 | Reply

    Follks need to remember that professional football is the entertainment industry and much of this smack talk is for show and posturing for the press. Off the field most of these guys are friends, professional colleagues and support each other’s charities etc. A lot of team’s have their “characters”;Richard Sherman plays that role for Seattle in much the same way Darnell Dockett has for the Cards. They are great players who are just having a little fun (giving the media material for a headline)while upping fan interest. e.g. boosting ticket sales and merchandis. Their antics and “talk” is bluster and show for the media to feed on, and fans who take this too serious aren’t real bright, as one only has to look at the participants in various player charity event and watch them interact under different circumstances to know the quality of the man (seems like a number of our rivals participated in Fit’z charity softball game this year, including the Sherminator). Different players have different personalities and liike Fitz, PP is a less flamboyant and a quiet kind of guy which doesn’t mean he can’t be deadly on the field. He is most certainly one of the best corners in the league but comparing the two is like apples and oranges as they have different skillsets, methods, and put their own signature on the corner position. I love watching them on the field and I find Sherman to be a hoot (much like Dockett) who knows what buttons to push to get a reaction.
    For the record, it was Fitz who blocked Sherman last season, put him on his back then gave him a helping hand up, the pure definition of class, which was acknowledged by both Richard Sherman as well as Pete Carroll who said Larry Fitzgerald was a model for how the game should be played.
    Watching these guys is what makes watching football great! Can’t wait till the season starts to see these guys in action, especially our division rivals.. The west is the best; let’s let our game do our talking! GO CARDS!

  25. By jason on May 23, 2014 | Reply

    cannot wait for the season to start and all the talking goes away…….

    every Cardinals fan-Peterson is the best!!

    every Seahawks fan-Sherman is the best!!

    every Browns fan-Haden is the best!!

    Just waiting till the real games begin and we can prove it on the field and not in

    the offseason on contracts.

    GO CARDS!!!!

  26. By Big Ken on May 23, 2014 | Reply

    Sherman has a great surrounding cast. We went thru this with Deshon Goldson, another big talker.

  27. By Paddock on May 23, 2014 | Reply

    I agree be quiet. Patrick be professional and let your play speak for it self, don’t get caught up in his bull ur better than that.

  28. By Darren Urban on May 23, 2014 | Reply

    Dan –

    RE: Cover 3

    Essentially, a cover 3 is a zone defense, rather than man-to-man.

  29. By lg on May 23, 2014 | Reply

    I’ve been a Cardinals fan 19 teen years the best corner back in our team history is Aeneas Williams just ask Brett Favre and he will tell you don’t throw it to that side of the field hell ask Steve young Williams was no joke. I watched every cardinals game last year and believe it or not Peterson do give up a lot of TD’s shut down corner no most athletic yes.

  30. By lg on May 23, 2014 | Reply

    And Peterson is right man to man ain’t Sherman game he would not be as good as he is in our scheme.

  31. By cardsalltheway on May 23, 2014 | Reply

    AzDesertRat1953,
    “Remind me again, how many punt returns does Sherman have,…”

    I can’t think of a worse punt returner in the NFL during 2014 than PP. Which is why the Honey Badger was given a chance, held the ball after one punt play catch with 4-5 guys around him, tried to stay up giving the other team chance to cause a fumble and twist him down, then got injured.

    PP should pipe down!

  32. By cardsalltheway on May 23, 2014 | Reply

    clssylssy,
    “Follks need to remember that professional football is the entertainment industry”

    NFL is a Cult says Terry Crew(video)

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/video/nfl/20140521/2014-05-21-terrycrewsnflcult.sportsillustrated/?xid=si_topstories

  33. By red c monster on May 23, 2014 | Reply

    Although I understand he didn’t intend to start a trash talk war with Sherman (although what would one expect given Sherman’s history?), Peterson has nevertheless painted himself into a corner. Peterson now has to hope the Cardinals will pay him equal to or more than what Sherman is getting. Otherwise, Sherman could quickly proclaim: See, not even your own organization thinks that you are better than me.

    To his defense, however, Peterson hasn’t said anything out of bounds. Sherman is just an obnoxious megaphone who keeps losing my respect each time he opens his mouth.

  34. By carlitos7000 on May 23, 2014 | Reply

    i dont like that peterson went in to this argument.
    he doesnt need to say that is a good player.all we know it.
    i thought he was more mature

  35. By John on May 23, 2014 | Reply

    Peterson hypes himself up with talk, but it’s just that, alot of talk. I haven’t been overly impressed with his play and i’ve seen every game he’s played. Most of this comes from his season with all the punt return TD’s, but that hasn’t even come close to happening lately. He needs to let his play do the talking. Average NFL CB.

  36. By Marlin on May 23, 2014 | Reply

    New Guy named “Rich” on this blog. I’m the old “Rich”. Changing my handle to “Marlin”.

  37. By clssylssy on May 23, 2014 | Reply

    @cardsalltheway
    Interesting point of view but I don’t agree. Guess that would make fans cult followers? LOL! Thanks for the entertaining vid. I give players and fans more credit than to be “cult members”! Can’t wait for the season to begin and the real real football news get report rather than irrelevant knitpicking! LET’S GET THE PARTY STARTED!

  38. By BirdsSTC on May 23, 2014 | Reply

    Has anyone actually ever seen Richard Sherman and Busta Rhymes in the same place at the same time? Just sayin…

  39. By cards4lyf on May 23, 2014 | Reply

    We can argue all day long about who’s the best CB, but the real question…. What jersey would you want to buy for you/your son? In the character department, it’s not even close! #P2NATION

  40. By jeffgollin on May 23, 2014 | Reply

    I hate this cr*p.

    Just play the game.

  41. By ored on May 23, 2014 | Reply

    pp gives up too many TDs,sherman has help covering,what does that mean,they have a ring,who cares how,it’s something we want and it’s a new year,now we have a fresh start to prove our team is better,one player better than another in a certain situation does’nt make the whole team better,just play the game…like we did in seattle last year.

  42. By lolo on May 23, 2014 | Reply

    America voted,and Peterson wins.

    http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/poll/conversation/_/id/4334799

  43. By JohnnyBluenose on May 23, 2014 | Reply

    With our 5th round pick in the 2011 draft, #136 over-all, we selected ANTHONY SHERMAN. With their 5th round pick, #154 over-all, the seahawks selected RICHARD SHERMAN. Is it too late for Keim to appeal on the grounds that someone made a typo error and we really meant to select RICHARD SHERMAN and not ANTHONY SHERMAN?……just askin’

  44. By D on May 23, 2014 | Reply

    Wow, this offseason is so slow and boring we have to discuss this? Profootballfocus had this topic dissected about a month ago, as Edge would say “google it” Article backs up both P2 statement on differences of coverages and the great numbers the long hair loud mouth has been bumping his gums about…
    Let’s all remember that the true reason for this upcoming weekend is about honoring our fallen heroes. As the recent events have shown a large media spotlight on the local VA dsyfunctional, corrupt gov hospital, lets all remember what our Vets did for us and this country.

  45. By cardsalltheway on May 23, 2014 | Reply

    lolo,
    “America voted,and Peterson wins”

    I would agree that in Peterson’s rookie season he was a better all around player with his punt return game but not last year the way he returned punts together with his non-impact play on offense as a WR.

    The numbers are on Sherman’s side…
    Playoff/Championship Games:
    PP = 0
    Sherman = 4

  46. By cole on May 23, 2014 | Reply

    Roddy White 47 Yard Playoff Touchdown – Taunts Ri…: http://youtu.be/iTpEQmTo8Mc

    When they don’t give help over the top with Sherman hahaha

  47. By Hammy on May 23, 2014 | Reply

    Peterson is just making his case to be the highest paid Corner in the league and so far his play has backed up every last bit of it and he is right Sherm is the best zone corner in the league. PP will get paid if this team wants to win Championships, our time is nearing and I think we can be good for a long time to come. SIGN HIM NOW!!!

  48. By j on May 23, 2014 | Reply

    bla bla, show us who is, if and buts are just candy and nuts

  49. By Scott H on May 23, 2014 | Reply

    After all is said and done, it is true that Seattle plays a different scheme and that scheme doesn’t really demand that Sherman be a true shut down corner. So…why criticize him for not being one? Look, what I really DON’T especially like about Sherman is how loud and outspoken he is. His tantrum in the minutes after the NFC title game made him look like a jackass. AND, for me, that takes away from what he does on the field. Therefore, the last thing I want to see PP start to become is that same type of player. I don’t think he would ever take it to the same extant as Sherman, but….PP would be MUCH better served heeding the example of his own teammate, Larry Fitzgerald. Win by making plays and on the scoreboard. And when you make those plays that help you do that, just flip the ball to the ref and get ready for the next series. When you do that, you don’t need to say NOTHING.

    Stay focused on your game, PP.

  50. By CreditCard on May 23, 2014 | Reply

    I’m a Cards fan — all the way. The team I’m most nervous about is the Rams. They have a stout O-line and defensive front 7. That said, I don’t see the Seahawks winning over 8 games this year. Sherman will be a forgotten commodity by October.

  51. By infitzwetrust on May 23, 2014 | Reply

    Dick, sure man……

  52. By Darren Urban on May 24, 2014 | Reply

    Credit –

    RE: Seahawks

    I think you are way, way off base.

  53. By Patrick Hoog aka Don't Take Losses on May 24, 2014 | Reply

    I like the sentiment of the guys posting above who seem to be from Missouri: “talk is cheap, show me”.

  54. By Scott H on May 25, 2014 | Reply

    CreditCard -

    The RAMS??? Really, man? And they make you the most nervous with WHO as their QB??? With all due respect, you gotta be kidding.

    And the Seahawks not winning more than 8 games this year? I’ll say this – if the Seahawks are smoking the same stuff you are, then that might just happen. What we can all hope for is that the Seahawks WILL suffer from some degree of the SB hang-over than seems to affect most teams the following year. I would not be surprised if they fall off a little and are not quite as dominant this year. But they will still be in the running for the division title and still be among the top teams in the NFL. And even if they DO slip a little, the 49ers are waiting right there to take over.

    The Cardinals showed they can hang with these teams during the 2nd half of last year. And if they can pick right up where they left off in 2013, No division will be harder to win than the NFC West. No other division will even come close.

    But expecting the Seahawks to fade away and not be a factor is just foolish. About as foolish as making the Rams the team we should worry about most.

  55. By Mackay on May 26, 2014 | Reply

    This is a bad argument to walk into. Sherman has much better stats, a ring, and made huge plays when it mattered most. Is Peterson more gifted? Yes. But as much as it hurts to say, I don’t think that Peterson is better. I don’t even think it is that close. Sherman did not give up 2 TDs to a 33 yr old WR, did not let megatron run by him for a 72 yd TD, PP actually played pretty poorly. I felt that he was a weak link in our defense last year. Maybe they should give him help over the top like Sherman gets, because top CB don’t give up a TD every other game.

    I also do not think PP should get paid what he is thinking. He needs to be better, and the Cards need to pay for what has been done, not what might be done.

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