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Shoulder means no practice, new opinion for Palmer

Posted by Darren Urban on October 1, 2014 – 1:21 pm

Wednesday was going to be a big day for Carson Palmer. A week ago, he and coach Bruce Arians counted on him being back to full speed today, practicing as normal. Instead, the quarterback was excused from practice so that he could get a new opinion on the nerve problem in his right shoulder that has thus far derailed his season. Arians said Palmer threw quite a bit Thursday and Friday, with some long throws. But since then, Arians said, “he’s regressed.”

It’s not a great sign for the Cardinals, obviously. It helps Drew Stanton has been playing well and is ready for the starting role. Arians said Logan Thomas has improved in his accuracy during practice, and Thomas said he would be ready to play if something happened to Stanton. Arians said the Cardinals don’t really have an emergency QB (Maybe wide receiver Ted Ginn, who fired a completed pass against the 49ers?). Regardless, Arians said the Cardinals don’t look at Palmer’s injury as a long-term problem — at least not yet. Maybe at some point they could put him on the injured reserve-designated to return list, but “we’re not even close to that yet,” Arians said.

In fact, Arians still wouldn’t rule Palmer out for Sunday and said he was hoping Palmer would actually be back at practice Thursday (even if it is “doubtful.) That said, Arians said he said Palmer would need at least a “day-and-a-half” of full-tilt throws before he’d get the go-ahead for a game.

“It’s obviously not been the response (in the shoulder) that he wanted, but I think Carson has done an unbelievable job being professional and coming to work and working with me, helping me feel comfortable out there and helping this offense be as successful as it can be,” Stanton said.

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56 Responses to “Shoulder means no practice, new opinion for Palmer”

  1. By D on Oct 1, 2014 | Reply

    I would like to see more screen passes to Ellington against Denver and would like to see Grice get some playing time, he appeared quick in preseason.

    Cards need a blowout game, (maybe against OAK) where they are up big in the 3rd Qrt to put Logan Thomas in to see where he is at against starters.

  2. By Steve Weston on Oct 1, 2014 | Reply

    Darren, I know that maybe this is more in the realm of wishful thinking, but is it possible that BA could be creating a smokescreen with all this? We already know coach has no problems in letting a veteran start a game even without practicing the week before. I’d imagine the official injured/availability list would be the big cue, so I suppose we’ll see how Palmer is listed there when it comes out for Sunday’s game. I’m hoping maybe this is just gamesmanship to gain some kind of advantage going into a VERY tough game for the Cards.

    That said, even if there’s no smoke at all and Palmer can’t play, I think Drew has proved himself capable of being our starter so my concern is not nearly as high as it would have been earlier this year.

    I’m really looking forward to watching this game in Denver (I hope that one of our local stations in VA is showing it) and I’ve got a good feeling about the outcome. GO CARDS!

  3. By Bryan on Oct 2, 2014 | Reply

    Steve:
    I live in the Hampton Roads area (Norfolk) of Virginia and the Fox network is going to show the game. Not sure if its the same across the state but if they are airing it in my area then you will probably get it too.

  4. By carlitos7000 on Oct 1, 2014 | Reply

    Stanton played well and we are happy is our back up qb, but he need to improve his read in the red zone, there he threw poor passes.

  5. By BirdsSTC on Oct 1, 2014 | Reply

    Damn. Damn damn damn damn.

  6. By krehbieo14 on Oct 1, 2014 | Reply

    It looks like Stanton may get the nod again. The Cards trust him and his play should continue to improve with all the game experience he’s getting. The Cards need to get the running game going early to open up the passing attack. Like I said before, it’s great to have two quality quarterbacks. Best wishes for Carson’s healing.

  7. By MikeFlorio on Oct 1, 2014 | Reply

    Guess who’s back!!!!!!!!!!!Any news regarding John Dwyer? Like it matters but, Stanton seems up for the challenge!

  8. By azqfan on Oct 1, 2014 | Reply

    Darren, If the Cards do have to put Carson on the IR-designated to return list. How does that work? Is it back-dated (like MLB disabled list) meaning he has to miss a certain # of games, and the 2 he has already missed count? Or is it so many games from the time they place him on it?

  9. By Darren Urban on Oct 1, 2014 | Reply

    azq —

    RE: IR

    It is not back-dated. He must sit out eight weeks.

  10. By Cards4Ever on Oct 1, 2014 | Reply

    Just curious to where he’s seeking this second opinion. Couple weeks ago he said he’s seeked every option/opinion/treatment possible. What’s new?

  11. By Darren Urban on Oct 1, 2014 | Reply

    Cards4Ever —

    RE: Opinion

    We didn’t get that information.

  12. By Islandofmisfitcards on Oct 1, 2014 | Reply

    Darren-

    Stanton took some shots in that 49ers game and kept composure I am not worried going forward lets just get Palmer healthy for a run late in the season

  13. By joe holst on Oct 1, 2014 | Reply

    Can they pluck Ryan Lindley off San Diego’s practice squad?. Just in case

  14. By Darren Urban on Oct 1, 2014 | Reply

    Joe Holst —

    RE: Lindley

    Only if they put him on the active roster.

  15. By Scott H on Oct 1, 2014 | Reply

    Not good. There is not a team in the NFL right now that is overcoming as much on a weekly basis as the Cardinals are. What the hell else will there be???

    I don’t mind seeing Stanton in there as the starter. If the Cardinals were going to be capable of winning this game at all – and I believe they are – then they can do it with Stanton at QB. Period. I do not expect this to be a game where we would have definitely won the game with Palmer, but Stanton held us back. I believe that whatever this offense can do, it can do with Stanton.

    And keeping in mind that Palmer was gonna be a contract decision at the end of this year – and NOW keeping that in mind with a considerable injury concern in the picture – I think it is a good thing that we are going to see more of what we have with Drew Stanton.

    And RIGHT NOW, our depth at QB scares the hell out of me.

  16. By Patrick Hoog aka Don't Take Losses on Oct 1, 2014 | Reply

    Wondering if its been disclosed whether C. Palmer’s 2nd opinion is local or if he’s travelling?

  17. By Dr. G. on Oct 1, 2014 | Reply

    Just Wow! This thing with Palmer is neurological in nature where the nerves are taking some time off. It can be referring to his shoulder from a jolt he took in his neck… Time and the next MRI will hopefully tell… Must be depressing for Palmer and those around him. Peyton had similar symptoms back when… ending up with a fusion. … And, what a shame for one of the most durable QB’s in the NFL…

    It appears everyone is confident with Stanton getting the job done as long as he is protected and doesn’t take a cheap shot like he got from the 49ers! He has proven his mettle. Thomas is the hopeful long-term guy, but if he had to go, the plan would be simplified…lots of RB action and shorter quick passing. A prayer for Palmer…..later…

    P.S. Still knowing Cards Defense can control this game while we run the clock with Peyton as an observer…

  18. By Dr. G. on Oct 1, 2014 | Reply

    Weston – – I have called out Arians for some of the cutsie things…mostly in 2013 and in the Spring… His obvious intent was to keep the curiosity seekers from getting inside info that may reveal necessary secrets to the team’s success. He has been taking a different approach lately…been watching Bowles probably!!!

    This thing with Palmer is straight forward… Arians does not appear to be trying to fool anyone so they can alter their plans. Our 2 QB’s are basically using the same approach, except that Stanton can run a bit…later…

  19. By JohnnyBluenose on Oct 1, 2014 | Reply

    Good decision byTeddy Williams. Had not heard of Jalen Saunders but looked him up. Surprised we signed another WR but he seems to have some upside. Replacement for Ginn next year?

  20. By Scott H on Oct 1, 2014 | Reply

    Looking ahead to the game itself ( I swear, I’m tired of talking so much about the QB’s )…I honestly believe this Cardinals team can compete in a shoot-out if that is what this becomes. BUT I think that scenario ultimately favors the Broncos more than the Cardinals. So…let’s try another approach.

    I say we strive for the same game plan we executed so effectively last year in Seattle – EXCEPT the 4 INT’s, of course. Simple in theory – win the time of possession battle. Keep Denver’s defense ON the field. Work the ball down the field with balance, take time off the clock, and end drives with scores. The Chargers did this to perfection against the Broncos last year and came away with a win. Peyton Manning can’t beat you when he’s on the sidelines.

    A key to this game plan – take the ball away on defense. Get turnovers. Put YOUR offense back on the field.

    Denver’s D is not good enough to control this game. They win games with offense. Keep the ball away from their offense and they can’t beat you that way.

    Peyton is still SOOOO good BUT what has become very obvious at this point is that his arm has really faded. His passes have no zip on them anymore. Many of them are pretty ugly, in fact. Well….they look ugly in terms of lacking a tight spiral. BUT they still seem to find their intended targets for TD’s. In that respect, they are beautiful. He is not able to make long throws with authority anymore, so our DB’s shouldn’t have to defend that.. But with the speed of Emmanuel Sanders, a short crossing route can go a long way. And when they get in close, Manning makes finding his TE and / or Welker look entirely too easy. Gotta play physical at the line with the receivers. And if Manning is able to set in the pocket and work without being pressured…forget it.

    Again, keep their defense on the field, hold onto the ball for as much of the game as possible, end drives with scores. Win the turnover battle and you probably win the war.

    Leave the ball in Manning’s hands too long, you know he will put points on the board and he’ll wear out the defense in the process. You’re not going to win the war that way.

  21. By Dobie on Oct 1, 2014 | Reply

    all I see is two interception for TD how that for faith be cool people Stanton will do all right he just need to connect with those long ones

  22. By John The Draft Guy on Oct 1, 2014 | Reply

    Darren,

    What is the cards biggest concern going into this weekend?

    Trying to cover Julius Thomas , since TEs have given us issues?

    Stanton starting?

    Veldheer and Massie (especially Massie) vs Demarcus Ware and Von Miller?

    Welker in the slot vs Powers / Honey Badger

    The cards run game / keeping Manning off the field

    Or do you think they go in feeling very confident?

  23. By Darren Urban on Oct 1, 2014 | Reply

    JTDG —

    RE: Concern

    Big questions. Sounds like a topic for “Friday before.”

  24. By Dr. G. on Oct 1, 2014 | Reply

    Just a wishful thought – – Peyton needs 1 TD pass to get to 500 !!!

    Wouldn’t it be nice to make him wait for another game to get to that milestone? Very unlikely, but I can have my dreams….

    “Manning will be on the opposite sideline from Cardinals coaches Bruce Arians and Tom Moore, who were instrumental in Manning’s development.” Denver Quote..

    http://www.denverbroncos.com/news-and-blogs/article-1/Peyton-Manning-and-the-men-who-helped-make-him/5f13cbe6-c592-4cda-b566-c03a070b7a41

    Perhaps Arians and Moore can read Peyton’s mind and scheme with Bowles to topple the Broncos….G’day

  25. By Darren Urban on Oct 1, 2014 | Reply

    Dr. G —

    RE: Manning/Moore/Arians

    It’s like you don’t even see the homepage anymore …

    http://www.azcardinals.com/news-and-events/article-2/Ties-Bind-Bruce-Arians-Tom-Moore-Peyton-Manning/68ade57f-b3ba-4800-8372-50a17d085997

  26. By T.Stone on Oct 1, 2014 | Reply

    Play press man, and jump the ball with a backer or Safety over the top for protection. That is the only way to beat Manning. Without pressure none of that is possible anyway. So we better get it. 2.3 seconds or whatever he gets rid of the ball out is only because of pressure. This game is ours.

  27. By Dynosoar on Oct 2, 2014 | Reply

    JTDG,

    I believe they go in feeling confident.

    To all, (hey Darren, perhaps this also helps the Friday before discussion.)

    The Packers won a Super Bowl recently in spite season ending injuries to starters, because they had depth. Our team is doing the team (well, we’ll see about the Super Bowl, but we’re winning in spite of season ending injuries to our starters.)

    AND we’ve been picked to lose every one of them. Without Docket, we win. Without Palmer, we win. Without Abraham, we win. Without Dwyer (ok, 2nd string) we win. Without Dansby, we win. Without Washington, we win.

    PERHAPS instead of focusing on who we don’t have, we should be focusing on who we do have. BA is. Bowles is. Goodwin is. The team is.

    In no particular order…

    We have Fitzgerald, Floyd, Brown, Brown and Ginn Jr.
    We have Ellington
    We have Honey Badger, Powers, Jefferson, Bethel and Johnson
    We have Foote, Campbell, Acho, Buchanon, Minter and Kelly
    We have Cromartie and Peterson
    We have Veldheer, Cooper (yes, Coop), Sendlien, Fanaika and Massie
    We have Zastudil and the CatMan
    We have Palmer and Stanton
    We have Bidwill, BA, Bowles, Mitchel, Moore and well… a few others.
    We have two training camps, one for starters and one for everyone else
    We have Darren
    We have the best bloggers
    We have Destiny

    Did I miss anyone, probably and I know I missed our depth. Our roster can and has stood up to the best anyone can throw at us. we’re 13 and 6 over the last two seasons.

  28. By Dynosoar on Oct 2, 2014 | Reply

    We have a team that may not be worrying the pundits, but I guarantee is worrying opponents.

    Is this a game we can win? Absolutely. Should they feel confident? Absolutely. Will we win? I absolutely hope so and expect to. Seattle won in an overtime thriller, I feel we simply win.

    The key, as BA said (paraphrased), we let them win the first half so we know what they can and will do, then we adjust and win the game.

    People talk about the breakdown of the Giants and 49ers. What do people expect? Both teams we’re winning and all of a sudden in the second half (and especially the 4th quarter) nothing that was working and I mean nothing… works. Our Coaches understand the Art of War better than our opponents (at least so far) and Ra Ra (two coaches in the NFC Best) can’t beat that.

    Let the best teams come at us, because we’re among the best teams. We should feel confident. Our Coaching staff can out-scheme and out- gameplan our opponents and our players can execute the coaches strategy. Once our opponents realize it, they fall apart.

    I expect a win. Manning may be among the best as a general, but we have a staff of generals and the players to back them up. Do the Broncos have the players, yes, but they aren’t better. I just hope they aren’t better on Sunday, I don’t think they will be.

    Let’s go for 14 and 6. Then we have 5 games I not only expect to win, but we should. The Eagles win, let’s give JohnnyBluenose and Scott H. a treat and win that one by 20+ points.

  29. By Dynosoar on Oct 2, 2014 | Reply

    We’ve sacked opposing QB’s 3 times, we allowed 6 over the first two games, 0 in the third.

    Broncos have sacked 8 times and allowed 3.

    JTDG,

    Veldheer and Massie (especially Massie) vs Demarcus Ware and Von Miller?
    Good question. Looking forward to the answer on Sunday.

  30. By jeffgollin on Oct 2, 2014 | Reply

    Lesson learned – Despite what the coaches say, a player remains injured until he’s not. This Sunday, Stanton’s our guy (with no serious depth behind him) and faces a scary-good pass rush in Ware, Miller & Co. Top priority in the Denver game (even higher than winning): “Protect Drew.”

  31. By Dynosoar on Oct 2, 2014 | Reply

    Dr. G,

    did you read Darren’s article. I found this quote from the Denver article, BA has had awesome quotes for some time.

    “The roles Arians and Moore have in Arizona are reversed from their Indianapolis days; now it’s Moore who works as Arians’ right-hand man. But their work remains impeccable. Their coaching of Carson Palmer and, now, Drew Stanton, further cements their status as quarterback whisperers.

    “Not that the self-deprecating Arians will admit to being a guru of the position. That was evident when he was asked about Manning’s progress since Arians left the Colts after the 2000 season.

    “”He’s gotten a lot smarter,” Arians said. “He overcame my coaching, that’s for sure.””

  32. By clssylssy on Oct 2, 2014 | Reply

    I totally agree with Scott H on this. We need to play Denver like we did Seattle, come out strong, keep the pressure on Peyton and keep him pinned down, maybe give him the worst game of his professional career? Their run game is not that great and if we can figure out a way to cover Demariyus Thomas (bigger and stronger than Patrick Peterson) and Julius Thomas (Honey Badger?), I think Fitz and Floyd should be able to matchup with the likes of Demarcus Ware and Von Miller. I really like the hurry up offense we were forced to play against the 9ers and the rather intimidating physicality we played in that game. Stanton handled the 9ers with grit and tenacity and grows with each game so no worries there. A big factor will be playing smart and not giving up yards in stupid penalties; which I kinda worry about with our corners and safeties; this IS Peyton Manning and you can bet the flags will be flying. Nonetheless, I don’t believe in giving an inch…giving them the first half…they’ll take the whole show, are you kidding? Peyton is great but not as young as he used to be, has sustained a serious injury but shouldn’t be underestimated; he’s a surgeon on the field. Come out strong, keep the pressure on, let our defense and special teams do what they do best–create turnovers, and close the deal. Worse case scenario, we play the best game of the week, win or lose, but winning is always best! GO CARDS!

  33. By Chuck 1 on Oct 2, 2014 | Reply

    I’m starting to think that the Cards will have to sign another QB to back up Stanton. But, I don’t believe that there are any “good” ones available.

    If Stanton goes down, I don’t think that Thomas can take us to the playoffs.

  34. By Darren Urban on Oct 2, 2014 | Reply

    Chuck 1 —

    RE: Signing another QB

    We’ll see if they end up doing that. I don’t think that’s on the radar quite yet.

    If they do, however, I’d think one move that would have to be considered is signing Lindley back off the San Diego practice squad. He knows the offense.

  35. By clssylssy on Oct 2, 2014 | Reply

    Darren:
    That was a beautiful article you did on “The Ties That Bind”, Arians, Moore and Manning or whatever. I don’t do Facebook so couldn’t comment but,that was very touching and nicely crafted to do justice to these three greats! It’s nice to read quality sports writing in a day when it seems that the tabloids have taken over and can only sensationalize the negativity in sports. Excellent read!

  36. By Darren Urban on Oct 2, 2014 | Reply

    clssylssy —

    RE: Ties That Bind

    Thank you.

  37. By Scott H on Oct 2, 2014 | Reply

    clssylssy –

    Glad someone agrees with me these day! As stated, Emmanuel Sanders is the Broncos WR that scares me the most. Manning has come to love him real quickly and he seems to be the favorite target these days. And he has the kind of speed that kills. Like I said, keep that offense off the field!

  38. By John The Draft Guy on Oct 2, 2014 | Reply

    clssy and Scott H,

    I agree we need to pressure Manning, but how?

    The Broncos have two pretty good tackles and our OLBs have zero sacks for the year.

    The broncos know that Bowles only chance is to blitz inside. But Minter and Foote are not the same as DWash and Dansby. I think you will see some safety blitzes or Bucannon playing ILB and coming.

    But even with that, it will be tough to get to Manning.

  39. By John The Draft Guy on Oct 2, 2014 | Reply

    clssylssy,

    HB on Julius Thomas? You know Thomas is 6’5″ and HB is 5’9″ ?

    Could you see Bowles dial up Cromartie taking the TE when he is in the slot (not inline) and HB or Powers outside on Sanders? That would make sense.

    PP has to be left one on one with the other Thomas. There is just no other option.

    then with Welker in the other slot, you have HB/Powers on him. You are going to need to play a safety on top to prevent big plays.

    you have to go with a 4 man line, 1 LB (Foote) and 2 safeties with a dime package of HB and Powers.
    Now it becomes easier to run the ball.

    This is a nightmare matchup when you do not have pass rushers. Bowles hasn’t let us down yet. This is when it gets fun. How will Bowles counter to all these weapons to cover, mismatches all over, and you have no pass rusher.

    This is a game I’ll tape and watch again to see what Bowles did to match up. Love this part of the game. Something tells me Bowles will have a creative answer.

  40. By Dr. G. on Oct 2, 2014 | Reply

    Darren – – My first priority when going to the Cards site is to go straight to “YOUR BLOG” with the time I have. I don’t believe the Ties” article was in your blog yesterday; I see that it was a HEADLINE ARTICLE. And perhaps my responding post was about the same time as your headline article. It was not there yet… Apologies for any confusion… always look to you for your insight and current observations. I look to take credit for nothing, just exchange…

    It is interesting though, that Arians’ and Moore’s positions are basically reversed now. It demonstrates loyalty and confidence for either man to accept their new roles. The Cards are fortunate that they work together so well… a rare alliance indeed.

    Have a nice day….

  41. By Darren Urban on Oct 2, 2014 | Reply

    Dr. G —

    RE: Bind

    I was just giving you grief. No worries. And certainly no apologies needed.

  42. By clssylssy on Oct 2, 2014 | Reply

    JTDG-
    Agree with your assessment about getting to Peyton but believe this defense has demonstrated it’s tenacity and ability to put “mind over matter”, i.e. they have the mindset to defy what experts have believed they are capable of and the will to execute. I’m not saying it will be easy or a gimmee but, I do believe that a lot has gone into planning for this game, and it will be a good indicator as to whether we are Superbowl ready.
    I do know that we have the clear advantage when it comes to coaching and the game will be determined by who has the most flawless execution, the fewest penalties, can turn the ball over and convert on third downs. Special teams may be the deciding factor. Should be Great Football!

  43. By Dr. G. on Oct 2, 2014 | Reply

    Dyno – – I read Darren’s article this AM… I did not see it yesterday…only the blog…

    It is interesting that the protege is now the teacher, but the original teacher remains for consultation…a great duo…

  44. By Scott H on Oct 2, 2014 | Reply

    JTDG –

    How do we pressure Manning? Well…I don’t know, that’s Bowles’ job! Very risky to come after Manning because – just as with Kurt Warner – if you didn’t get to him, he would probably make you pay. But – just as with Kurt Warner – if you didn’t get pressure on him and he was able to stand in the pocket and go through his reads, he would kill you that way. So…you have to take a gamble at some point and hope it pays off. Wish I had something more substantial for ya but…that’s Bowles job!

    PS – Damn, I sure do miss Kurt Warner….

  45. By Scott H on Oct 2, 2014 | Reply

    MANDATORY READING ALERT!!

    If your local news stand carries the USA Today Sports Weekly, get yourself a copy ASAP! GREAT article about how the Cardinals organization AND team have come such a long way in recent years and done so much to change their image as well as their fortunes. The sub-title for the article is – Once Moribund Franchise Is Now One of NFL’s Best.

    Folks, you HAVE to read this! After being such a joke for so many years after moving from St Louis, it is SO awesome to see the recognition that those days are OVER. And it is proof that Arizona truly LOVES their Cardinals!!!

  46. By Dr. G. on Oct 2, 2014 | Reply

    Chuck 1 – – Darren – –

    Lindley? We have watched him for several years now, and sorry to say, he has a penchant for panic when under fire. It is my opinion at this point that Logan would be better though being the rookie. He likes the contest, and has been on the big stage in college….bigger, stronger, quicker, and up to speed on the latest with the QB coaches. Lindley would be way behind at this point. If Keim brings him in, I will eat my sombrero….Not a good choice…no bridge remaining…. It would be prudent to bring in a temp old pro though if Palmer goes on IR… I’m looking to see who… while hoping that Palmer will bounce back soon…

    ScottH – – As for how to get to Peyton, It is reasonable to expect that he will have at the least a modicum of success. The Cards can blitz at least one random man on nearly every play without losing coverage. If he gets knocked down a time or two, he will begin to play hurry-up after he goes through his theatrics behind center. Peyton rarely hikes the ball before 2 seconds looking to draw an off=sides… Cards just have to watch for stupid penalties and we’ll be fine….

  47. By Dynosoar on Oct 3, 2014 | Reply

    Dr.G.

    I rarely go to an opponents site, like you, just not enough time. Appreciated the link as I saw a great BA quote. I thought it dovetailed nicely with Darren’s article.

    Scott H.

    Thanks for the heads up on the USA Today article, I’ll be searching for it. Will be a solid game.

    To all,

    Our defense knows what they’re up against. Our offense knows what they’re up against. Our coaches know what they’re up against.

    But you know what, Denver knows what they’re up against as well. The Cardinals! And we’re different than we used to be.

  48. By Dynosoar on Oct 3, 2014 | Reply

    On a side note, teams should have one possession each in OT. It was tested a year ago and it should be implemented.

  49. By Darren Urban on Oct 3, 2014 | Reply

    Dyno —

    RE: OT rule

    The new rule is in place as tested. Each team does get a possession — unless the first team scores a touchdown.

  50. By clssylssy on Oct 3, 2014 | Reply

    Dr. G…
    Bring in a temp old pro? I don’t think their are any retirees out there better than Lindley, who, at least knows the offense and the chemistry of the team. Plus he is still young enough to withstand the physicality of the game, has been to our OTAs, training camp,etc. At least he wouldn’t be a completely unknown commodity who would have to pick up and start from scratch. You are correct, we have seen in in the last few years however, he has experience and maturity on his side and he has played under several coaching regimes; I don’t think he was ever seen as anything but a backup and with Coach BA’s philosophy of “next man up”,while that may still be the reality of the situation, I believe he prepares differently.
    It’s really sad that just when Carson’s career was getting rebooted he suffered this shoulder injury and we can hope that at some point he will be back. He is is the best possible place for treatment with the Barrows Neurological Institute here in Phoenix plus he has rehab facilities at his disposal through the team and NFL that the rest of us wouldn’t…maybe even some alternative medicine treatments, like acupuncture etc.that have been recognized now by the AMA.
    I hope it doesn’t come to having to sign another QB but, with this being week 5 and so many other QBs now out to injury, I would rather see us sign Lindley before someone else does and then being out of options.
    As for getting to Peyton, I am looking at Calais and Tommy Kelly to have a big game. Peyton has been blitzed 34 times this season and still has been able to get off a pass but his yards per attempted have dropped from 8.18 to 5.42 and the three times he has been sacked have come on a blitz. I think that not giving him the time to adjust his progressions or presnap call will be critical and playing a more “hurry up” game with increase our chances for success. This is going to be a good test for us to play not only a physical game but a more cerebral one and I get the impression that while Stanton lacks the real game experience, he has been groomed to think like BA…and more along the lines that Peyton Manning was as a rookie. Should be some GREAT FOOTBALL and huge opportunity for the Cards!
    @Scott–Thanks for the head up on the USA article, sounds like a good one that will go in the Memory Book!

  51. By Chuck 1 on Oct 3, 2014 | Reply

    I noticed, in an earlier thread, that Darren wrote that Kitchen devoted some time a week ago to instructing the QBs when and how to slide.
    Too bad that he didn’t do that earlier in the season before Palmer and Stanton took hits.
    We’ll see if Stanton learned anything if he has to slide at Denver.

  52. By Dr. G. on Oct 3, 2014 | Reply

    Dyno – – Not often do I go to other opponents sites; I wanted to see how Denver was preparing for the Cards. Our team certainly does stealth analyses. And you will seek the USA article too, huh? Cards’ blog first…then maybe others if curiosity assails me. This game is simply HUGE – Can’t wait – a bit edgy on this one, which is rare for me. If this were a home game, it would be “pick-em.”

    Clssy – – Temp QB – – Not to mean retirees…. There are a number of UFA’s available; ((No, not Kolb !)) scrubs basically. If we bring in another QB, it may only be in the event of Stanton’s inability to play. Our team may be done ((stick a fork in it)) anyway at that point. Peyton rated 71.2% with 28 INT’s his rookie year. Logan could not be that bad…gotta go with him if it gets to that point. He has been on some big stages. Arians is not afraid to play a Rook, Logan has seen a lot by now. I have faith that Drew and Carson can complete most of the season…so we will not have to face that dilemma… I appreciate your faith in Lindley, but Keim would have cut him with any doubt of his ability. Lindley seems of good character.

    GAME OF THE WEEK, CARDS FANS !

  53. By Kevin S Mesa on Oct 3, 2014 | Reply

    I hate the new OT rule. Either guarantee both teams a possession, period, or leave it the way it was. This whole “if it’s only a FG then the other team gets a chance but if it’s a TD then they don’t” is silly.

  54. By Dr. G. on Oct 3, 2014 | Reply

    Clssy – – I meant Keim would “”not”” have cut Lindley if he had doubts. And, he would not have drafted Thomas…later

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