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QB-less, it’s Friday before the Redskins

Posted by Darren Urban on October 10, 2014 – 4:21 pm

One year with Carson Palmer taking every snap, and it’s easy to forget what it can be like with quarterback uncertainty. Then a week like this happens and the memories all come crashing back. No one is saying this is like 2012 all over again, when Ken Whisenhunt, scrambling for a quarterback, kept mixing and matching. In fact, even that team never really had a situation like Bruce Arians is facing now, when injuries have precluded him from naming a starter here on Friday.

Realistically, both Carson Palmer and his funky shoulder and Drew Stanton, coming off a concussion, have injuries that could “go away” and then rear up again on Sunday morning. As of Friday afternoon, both guys are taking tests to see where they are in their recovery. It’s looked good up until this point, but it makes sense caution is the buzzword in this instance.

I will not be surprised if any of the three is behind center for the Cardinals’ first snap Sunday. There is still an eternity until 1:25 p.m. Sunday.

UPDATE: Multiple reports Friday night said Stanton passed his concussion test. That does not necessarily mean Stanton would start.

— If Logan Thomas does have to play? Larry Fitzgerald has one word: “Patience.”

“Got to be patient,” Fitz said. “Just try to make plays for them. Nothing more soothing for a young person than when you make a play and kind of be a security blanket.”

— Speaking of Fitz, he said he’s not thinking of his slow start. Of course he’s going to say that out loud. Of course I think he’s thinking about it. He’s a guy who wants to get to the Hall of Fame. A season playing out like this is not helping that cause.

— With everything going on around the quarterbacks and the injuries and the like, there’s been no room to mention the return of wide receiver Andre Roberts to University of Phoenix Stadium. Roberts signed with the Redskins as a free agent after four seasons in Arizona. “If something happens to Pierre (Garcon) or DeSean (Jackson), we feel just as good as him outside as our first or second guy,” Washington coach Jay Gruden said. “Really like him. Good kid, too.”

Roberts thought he was going to Washington to be the No. 2 behind Garcon. Then Jackson was acquired, and Roberts was stuck as the No. 3 guy again, exactly the situation he was trying to escape in Arizona.

— Last week’s offensive stats, thanks to needing to play the raw Thomas, were probably an outlier. But the Cardinals went just 3-for-16 on third downs last week. It was awful. That cannot happen. This defense needs time to rest on the sideline.

— Offensive coordinator Harold Goodwin wasn’t thrilled with the run game last week. It’ll be more important if Thomas has to start, but even if Palmer or Stanton plays, the Cards need more on the ground.

“I don’t care who is playing quarterback,” Goodwin said. “We didn’t do a very good job last week. You’d get a positive run and then all of sudden you’d get minus-two on the next play.

“It’s going to take some of the pressure off (Logan) if he plays. Have to get positive yards on first and second downs. We had 12 runs of two (yards) or less. Not close to being good enough.”

— The Cardinals haven’t run enough, Arians said. Asked about getting more carries for Stepfan Taylor or even working Marion Grice, Arians said the Cards need to be more effective on the ground in the first place and then see where Andre Ellington is physically. Because at this point, Ellington is the man, Arians said. Ellington had 16 of the Cardinals’ 19 rushing attempts in Denver.

“(Andre) felt very, very fresh out there,” Arians said. “And if he’s fresh, he’s staying in.”

— Stanton and Redskins starting QB Kirk Cousins have a good relationship. Cousins was an incoming freshman at Michigan State at the same time Stanton was just leaving as QB. “Went out to dinner with him a couple of times when he was in school, talked with him on the phone and via text,” Stanton said. “I don’t want to be one of those guys who tries to tell him how to do everything.”

Said Cousins, “I’ve always looked up to him as a guy who had a lot of success at Michigan State and then as a high draft pick as somebody I could follow in the footsteps of,” Cousins said.

— The Redskins have beaten the Cardinals eight times in a row. The last Cardinals’ win? The game that might’ve clinched University of Phoenix Stadium.

— Hard to believe that before the Cardinals interviewed Arians for the head coaching job, they interviewed Gruden. Two things I remember from that day, when Gruden met with the media. If you closed your eyes, there were definitely times he sound like his brother Jon, and he didn’t exactly come across like he was super excited about the job. Now he’s got the Washington job and he’ll be on the opposite sideline.

Now, who he’ll be trying to defend as the Cardinals’ quarterback … well, I guess we’ll see, won’t we.

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17 Responses to “QB-less, it’s Friday before the Redskins”

  1. By georgiebird on Oct 10, 2014 | Reply

    Over the long term- about 50 years- the Redskins have been the toughest opponent for the Cardinals. The once divisional foe has had their way with the Cards except for a couple of games here and there. The second toughest opponent has been the Giants.
    Well this year we defeated the Giants and hopefully we can get to the ‘skins. Thankfully, this is not an away game as victories in Washington and New Yok are very hard to come by.
    Our most successful QB against the ‘skins- the great Boomer Esiason.

  2. By Chuck 1 on Oct 10, 2014 | Reply

    “…Arians said Palmer was throwing at about 80 percent and had some decent velocity.”…
    That won’t hack it. And, he might further injure the nerve.
    Sit him.

    Stanton might get his bell rung again with Massie and Cooper protecting him.
    Sit him.

    Let’s see what Thomas can do with another week of instruction from Moore and BA.

  3. By CreditCard on Oct 10, 2014 | Reply

    Generally speaking second and third string players are not as good as first string players. There is a reason why they ride the bench — they’re not as good.

    98% velocity vs. 100% velocity in the NFL is the difference between an interception and a completion.

    Need a huge game from Dumpster Dan, Rucker, Kelly, Martin, Stinson and Alama.

    The Redskin defense is very strong in an area, we have been weak — running the ball. Their pass defense is suspect, but if Logan starts — his skill set might not expose their weakness. All this said — I’m very nervous about this game.

  4. By Patrick on Oct 10, 2014 | Reply

    Reminds me of the time when Whisenhunt went with two quarterbacks Warner and Leinart and they both got hurt. They scrambled and signed Tim Rattay and Tim Hasselbeck. The cardinals played Carolina who were in the same situation play Vinny Testaverde. Vinny lead Carolina to an ugly victory.

  5. By Darren Urban on Oct 10, 2014 | Reply

    Patrick —

    RE: Carolina/Warner

    Close. Leinart was hurt, Cards were only keeping two QBs. Rattay signed to backup Warner. Warner hurt early in Carolina game. But you are right, Panthers won an ugly game (and Testaverde had turned down the chance to come to Arizona and back up Warner, picking Carolina that week instead.)

  6. By Steve on Oct 10, 2014 | Reply

    Screw Jay Gruden, he wants to work for a pompous arrogant a…hole like Daniel Snyder, who needs him. We got the better coach anyway.

  7. By Scott H on Oct 11, 2014 | Reply

    OMG, it’s been THAT long since we’ve beaten the Redskins??? Holy cow. Well, it’s time to put a stop to THAT non-sense. And on that note…

    …it is up on NFL. com right now that Stanton is going to start tomorrow! Assuming this is legit, all I can say is THANK YOU, THANK YOU, a thousand times THANK YOU! Still no guarantees, but with either Stanton or Palmer in at QB, this SHOULD absolutely be a Cardinals win.

    Hope our DB’s are keeping an eye on Andre Roberts, who you KNOW wants to come in here and show the Cardinals what they missed out on.

    OK, I feel much better.

  8. By mal on Oct 11, 2014 | Reply

    I cant believe Chuck 1 is getting so many thumbs down.

    I think everyone in the organization knows very well who’s starting this game, and who the back-up will be, but there’s no advantage tipping off Washington.

    You cant have Drew get back-to-back concussions. It could ruin the rest of his life. Carson is “lobbing” the ball 30 yards. No way BA puts him out there.

    Darren has to go along with the official line and not get ahead of the coaches. But he didnt choose the accompanying picture by chance.

    Sometimes a picture is worth a 1000 words.

  9. By Coach K on Oct 11, 2014 | Reply

    R.E.L.A.X.

    Stanton will play Sunday. He was cleared, he will play. Period.

    Palmer will be ready next week against his old team.

    All is well in the bird barn.

  10. By Chuck 1 on Oct 11, 2014 | Reply

    mai,

    Thanks for “having my back”.
    I can only hope, that if Stanton starts, he doesn’t get his bell rung AGAIN.

  11. By Eazy E on Oct 12, 2014 | Reply

    We are everywhere at QB!

  12. By shannon robinson on Oct 12, 2014 | Reply

    Beware The Honey Badger! “Hail to the Deadskins!” as only a former Redskins fan can say.

  13. By red bird of death! on Oct 12, 2014 | Reply

    Stanton will play and we will win, Palmer will be back next week expect a close wild home game though.

  14. By Andy Kw on Oct 12, 2014 | Reply

    Carson Palmer is back!!!!!!!!!!!!! Im excited to watch him. Drew Stanton has been phenomenal as a backup but now it is time for our captain to get back on the field. Palmer might not be at full power but if he is at least playing at 80%, then im all for it. I think Patrick Peterson will nab his first pick of the season, I can just feel it.

  15. By Andy Kw on Oct 12, 2014 | Reply

    Scott H
    Andre Roberts wanted to be a #2 WR and he wanted to earn more money. Roberts knew that Fitzgerald and Floyd are respectively the #1 and #2 WR for this team and so his return here would be a second option. Roberts signed with the Redskins because they wanted him to be the #2 and they gave more money to him. If DeSean Jackson signed with the Redskins before Roberts, I am sure that Roberts would have made a return here in Arizona on a 1-2 yr contract instead of signing the deal with Washington. He wanted to elevate his game and the Redskins took that chance away from him by signing Jackson. I am still a HUGE fan of Andre Roberts and I have total respect for the guy. I say Roberts should opt out of the deal with the Redskins the second year and find another team that could utilize his abilities. A team needs to commit to him as a #2 because he is just that good. I think the Carolina Panthers and Indianapolis Colts would work well for him if he was released from the Redskins. The Panthers have their #1 WR for the future in Kelvin Benjamin but they need a #2. Jerricoh Cotchery is probably going to retire after this season just because of his age. For the Colts, Hakeem Nicks has been a big disappointment. Luckily he was signed to a 1yr deal and he has not proven much. Arians worked with Chuck Pagano before so Roberts has a small idea of the system the Colts employ. Roberts has good knowledge of the game and wants a QB that could take his skills to the next level. We all know TY Hilton works extremely well in the slot and so taking him out would be crazy. #2 or #3 as a Colt, Roberts will see his fair share of catches there.

  16. By Dynosoar on Oct 12, 2014 | Reply

    I’m one of Chuck 1’s thumbs up. If Palmer and Stanton are not ready, let’s run with Logan and see what he’s got and give him confidence at the same time. That’s IF Palmer and Stanton are not ready.

    I am fine with letting Logan get the start. Against Washington or Oakland, what better team to start for the first time against, maybe Jacksonville? I will defer to the coaches, I just agree that if he’s going to have a start this year, there’s only one or two other opponents to build his confidence against this year than one of these two teams.

    On the other hand, Young sat behind Montana, Rodgers sat behind Farve, but Peyton didn’t sit behind anyone. So there’s no perfect formula.

    I want to have Palmer or Stanton in there, but am good with Logan as well.

  17. By clssylssy on Oct 13, 2014 | Reply

    WOW! That was way too close for a supposed “gimme” however, I know the Redskins are very talented and much better than their 1-4 record indicates. The same can be said for the Raiders, just like the Cards have been for a number of years. It’s usually the “sleeper” teams that punch your ticket! While I’m happy to see Palmer back, I believe we could have done better with Stanton under center as his pass completion in the red zone has been better and we need to be making TDs rather than settling for FGs.; not trying to start a QB controversy just say’n isn’t it suppose to be the guy who gives us the best chance to win and Palmer hasn’t played since week 1? I did the the feeling the BA was trying to prove something in starting Palmer when he really didn’t have to and could have given him another week to get stronger. At least we didn’t have to play Thomas, who I like but is nowhere close to being ready to lead this team.
    Glad to see somebody decided to let Fitz get the ball and do what Fitz does best…make plays! I understand that sometimes he serves as a great decoy as does Floyd but we have been underutilizing his talents,
    Jerraud Powers and Rashard Johnson continue to shake things up and pull us out of a hole and are what we are depending a lot on as our secret weapon. Glad to see Tyrann Mathieu getting back to his old aggressive selve and can only imagine what he’s be like without the brace.
    On to Oakland and another “trap” game with a team who nearly beat the Chargers yesterday so rest up guys and be ready to rock’n’roll as we take one win at a time!

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