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Cromartie has ankle injury, and other Keim notes

Posted by Darren Urban on December 8, 2014 – 8:19 am

The short week has started. The Cardinals are already in meetings this morning, prepping for a Thursday night game in St. Louis, even as the win Sunday against the Chiefs has barely had a chance to register. That’s what happens on a short week; Bruce Arians said the coaches probably won’t even grade the Chiefs game because it’s already time to move ahead. Today is “Wednesday” in terms of the prep schedule, Tuesday is “Thursday” and Wednesday is a combo “Friday/Saturday” with travel mixed in. Hectic doesn’t begin to describe it.

So the newsiest thing coming out of GM Steve Keim’s weekly segment on the “Doug and Wolf” show on Arizona Sports 98.7 this morning was an update on cornerback Antonio Cromartie. When Cromartie first got hurt it did not look good, having to be helped off with help. Then it was announced it was an Achilles injury, which is really not good. A tear there and you are done for a long time.

But after the game, Arians said it wasn’t the Achilles, and Keim this morning said the preliminary diagnosis was an ankle injury affecting the peroneal tendon. Keim said at this point Cro is day-to-day, although he is getting more extensively checked out by doctors this morning.

“Things  can change, but it wasn’t on the surface as severe as I thought it looked,” Keim said.

More from Keim:

— He said he wasn’t sure how Andre Ellington’s workload will be handled next year, but that he needs to get fixed up now. The running back is will go on injured reserve as soon as today and is getting surgery on a hernia in Philadelphia.

“Sometimes in football there are those fluke injuries,” Keim said. “And there are those guys who have rough seasons in terms of durability.

“Andre has got to stay healthy and I think this is an important offseason for him in terms of strength and conditioning, getting bigger, stronger.”

— Keim said the offensive line had its best game of the season, and thinks left tackle Jared Veldheer is “having a Pro Bowl season.”

— Linebacker Matt Shaughnessy banged up his shoulder late in the game and didn’t return, but Keim said he should be OK.

— Keim said he and Arians had “several conversations” over the last few weeks whether to make running back Kerwynn Williams active. They liked what they saw on the practice field, but there was an unknown once he would get into a game. Guess Williams answered that concern.

— It was director of football administration Mike Disner — the Cardinals’ salary cap guru, among other duties — who saw the ball pop loose from Chiefs tight end Travis Kelce and told Arians he should challenge. The resulting Cardinals’ recovery was a turning point in the game. Disner spends every game with the coaches in booth upstairs, and one of his duties is to help figure out replay challenges.

“Dis gave us for good information for once,” Keim joked. “Not many people know this, but one of my nicknames for him is ‘Dismal.’ Because he is the money man. So many times we are talking about potential free agents or guys I’d like to sign and he’s the guy who gives me the thumbs up whether we can afford him or not. I call him ‘Dismal’ because too many times I get the thumbs down. (Sunday), ‘Dismal’ gave us some great news.”

— Keim opened his segment by praising the home fans. “They were a big reason why we won Sunday.”


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31 Responses to “Cromartie has ankle injury, and other Keim notes”

  1. By Steve Weston on Dec 8, 2014 | Reply

    Love this blog article D, especially the anecdote about Mike ‘Dismal’ Disner. When I saw that play on RedZone I couldn’t figure out why the challenge was thrown. I never even saw that ball pop out before he was down until they showed another angle much later, long after the ruling on the field was changed to a fumble and I was still wondering what the heck was going on, though I was surely happy! But yeah, it was a fumble for sure and big time kudos to ‘Dismal’ for catching it!

    That was really a huge game, and though it was ugly I just have a feeling that those are the only kinds of wins we can hope for going forward. The injuries that the Cards have played through thus far are simply amazing when you really sit down and think about it. How do any of you suppose any other team in the NFL would do, given what the Cards have endured so far? Win or lose from here on out, I’m proud of this team for what they’ve accomplished. Would love to see them in the Super Bowl, and though I think it’d be a very long and hard road to get there, somehow I just won’t be surprised to see our Cards playing at home come February 1.

    Go Cards!!!

  2. By Lee W. Flanagan on Dec 8, 2014 | Reply

    You are absolutely correct on your summation. We would have a completely different outlook if we had lost a few more games. Boy, have things changed just from this win!

  3. By BigRedFan on Dec 8, 2014 | Reply

    Hopefully Crowmartie will be back soon. He’s an awesome corner!

  4. By D on Dec 8, 2014 | Reply

    Good win yesterday, the Defense and K. Williams stepped up. The Oline played very well. 10 wins should get them into the playoffs, regardless of the last 3 games…(last game vs SF could be the one this team can win since that team has quit)

    Rams are hot and tough, not looking good with all of the injuries on the Cards.. I think a player in free agency the Cards should look at is on the Rams, TE Lance Kendricks…an overall upgrade over Housler…

  5. By Patrick Hoog aka Don't Take Losses on Dec 8, 2014 | Reply

    Yep, fans had good second half. What worries me is the team’s mental makeup and focus on road. Need eye of tiger, margin for error so small now. Maybe we found something?

    Best thing besides win? The obvious, of course, found RB who just might have enuff success into the Round Robin to make play action de rigueur for Cards. Stanton fairly inaccurate at times, but seems to hit those seams where WR is getting behind coverage, like Jaron Sunday. The new RB success, play action and Stanton’s knack for these can be a winning combination… just sayin’… we may have found something. Once again Keim delivers, KW was unreal. Next group up delivered.

    And Seattle can be beat at UOP.

    How much fun is it to be in it to the end?

    Final note: looking at standings, somebody in NFC with 10 wins is not going to make playoffs again this year…

  6. By jme on Dec 8, 2014 | Reply

    any given Sunday!! Im done with listening too NFL media. This cardinals team no matter who is out of the game is resilient because this is a TEAM. Big names dont dominate the win % chances, this is a pure team who have each others backs no matter what. The mission does not change, success is not just an option.Lets go Big RED!!

  7. By Lee W. Flanagan on Dec 8, 2014 | Reply

    You should always listen to the media. Just use your common sense. They make mistakes like we do.

  8. By Big Ken on Dec 8, 2014 | Reply

    Stanton connecting with Fitzgerald early in the game seemed to build Drew’s confidence.

  9. By Phil on Dec 8, 2014 | Reply

    Darren – Is anyone in the Cards organization considering whether or not the high numbers of injuries has anything to do with the new strength and conditioning coach?

    A good strength and conditioning program should help with some (granted not all) of the injuries we’ve been decimated with this year.

  10. By Darren Urban on Dec 8, 2014 | Reply

    Phil —

    RE: Strength and conditioning

    They are not, nor should they, IMO. It’s not like Buddy Morris has never done this in the league before.

  11. By mal on Dec 8, 2014 | Reply

    Larry Fitzgerald is a real warrior.

    He said before the game he was at 60%, and yet there he was playing in an NFL game with an injury that would probably have you or me on crutches.

    You could tell he wasnt close to healthy, but what a gutsy performance.

    This guy is first in class, first in grit, first round Hall of Fame. I’m honored to have him play on my team.

  12. By Mike on Dec 8, 2014 | Reply

    Darren- Has Drew Stanton ever considered wearing a glove? Seems that his passes have been high lately. Looks like it might be a grip issue similar to when Kurt Warner started to wear one when he had an injury. Just a thought. Thanks.

  13. By Darren Urban on Dec 8, 2014 | Reply

    Mike —

    RE: Gloves

    Not that I know of.

  14. By Chuck 1 on Dec 8, 2014 | Reply

    Someone help with this, PLEASE.
    Prior to Sunday’s game, I think that Williams had never had ONE carry in an NFL game.
    From his performance, he appears to be better than Taylor i.e. Taylor has been active for all games as far as I know and hasn’t shown much when given the opportunity.
    Why in the world has BA not promoted him before to take Taylor’s place?

  15. By Scott H on Dec 8, 2014 | Reply

    Man, having a Thurs night road game THIS WEEK…..could there be a WORSE time for one of those??? I swear, there are few teams I would rather not play right now than the Rams.

    Speaking of which, perhaps the Cardinals would be wise to familiarize themselves with TE Jared Cook. Because he is another VERY solid TE ( 2 TD’s yesterday ) who seems poised to be the next TE to smoke the Cardinals. Why we continue to have such difficulty with TE’s is beyond me. Travis Kelce was catching a pass every time I turned around yesterday. Cook will do the same unless more attention is paid to opposing TE’s. Going by yesterday’s game, that is STILL not being done.

    Cromartie banged up now? Figures. He’s probably the ONLY guy on this team that HASN’T been banged up this season, so…why should he be spared?

    For what it is worth, regardless of where this season may end, I cannot be anything but extremely proud of this team and how they have fought through it all. The resiliency….How can anyone say enough about much they have shown this year???

  16. By Patrick Hoog aka Don't Take Losses on Dec 8, 2014 | Reply

    We can win in STL. They had to travel home late Sunday, we got to bed on time.. that’s a head start and we’re relatively healthy coming out of the game Sunday. I like our chances. Agree, Larry got re-injured early and just sucked it up. KW was a key add, but didn’t mean to discount the importance of LF, our Offensive Leader… Also noticed Deion Sanders now a Cardinals convert, he no longers pour mouths us, picked us over KC fwiw…Cards 20 Rams 17. And the beat goes on…

  17. By mal on Dec 8, 2014 | Reply

    Darren-

    I thot I heard you ask BA if he was aware he had KW in Indy, but KW was just drafted by the Colts last year?

  18. By Darren Urban on Dec 8, 2014 | Reply

    Mal —

    RE: Williams in Indy

    Yes. I had the wrong info.

  19. By georgiebird on Dec 8, 2014 | Reply

    Darren,
    Great win for the Cards.
    Cards had a lot of pressure going into the KC game. Hopefully, guys will play a little more relaxed in the Rams game.
    You have to go back to the Raiders’ game to find a game without too much on the line.
    Now, we have the Rams trying for .500, then the Seahawks protecting their SB title and then the 49ers trying to end the season above .500.

  20. By Bay Area Bad Boy on Dec 8, 2014 | Reply

    It wasn’t a pretty win, but a W is a W. I had faith the team would pull it. I wish more of our fans would be positive. We are at 10 wins and need at least one more to ensure a playoff spot. I think our guys can pull it off this week against the Rams. They are tough, but we play them twice a year so there should not be any surprises. Its all about heart and hunger now. If the team really wants it, they have to be hungry and take it. No one is going to give us anything. Next man up !!!!!, Next team Up !!!!! Go Card !!!!!

  21. By cards62 on Dec 8, 2014 | Reply

    Chuck 1

    You make a very good point on Williams over Taylor or even Grice who I am high on. Where would we be if someone would have signed Williams off of our practice squad? Hopefully like me no one else in the NFL knew anything about Williams.

    Another point would be Cooper on the bench and Larsen playing guard. Rams game will tell us a lot more, but what is your thoughts and others on how Larsen is playing verses Cooper.

    Look I love this coaching staff and if we do not win another game this season I consider this season well coached and well played based upon all of the player issues we had to deal with this year, but like most of us on here I do like to put my coaches hat or GM hat on ever now and then and just try to make sense of everything.

    Go Cards beat those Rams. If my memory serves me correctly our first game was close with us in the lead by a little and then our defense just took over the game so hopefully they can do that again for us, but man I would love to see Stanton pass for over 325 yards and complete 70% of his passes.

  22. By TucsonTim on Dec 8, 2014 | Reply

    OK did anyone else have a Falcons flash back after the 63 yd TD run?

    Matching the plays with Stantons abilities, or lack there of, in less than 40 seconds is the key to victory. If we even make the playoffs, BA is the coach of the year, no he’s coach of the decade. That TD pass was genius, pure genius. For a one read stare ’em down QB it was perfect: quick throw, with little risk and no time for happy feet.

    Rackers was on the club level doing pictures and autographs. He looked fit and I thought it might be a good idea to get him dressed for the second half.. Does anyone have any confidence in our kicker at this point? Anybody notice they ran out every kick off. No respect for special teams tackling.

  23. By Kevin S Mesa on Dec 8, 2014 | Reply

    Interesting anecdote about Disner. Begs the question though, what was he (and everyone else in the booth) watching last week when everyone saw Julio Jones make a long reception with only one foot in bounds and even the guys on TV were basically calling it an easy challenge. He sees the ball coming loose on the Kelce fumble but doesn’t see that play last week? Is he only in the booth at home games?

  24. By Dr. G. on Dec 8, 2014 | Reply

    If we had only 1 player selected for the Pro Bowl, it should be Veldheer. He is the best acquisition this year…no debate…thank you Mgr. Keim…brilliant…

    It is good that the Rams are also on a short week, and they had a return trip from the East Coast. So aside from the home field, which is a big deal, the time frames are similar in terms of preparation…. We need a road win there….

    The Rams have Seattle for their last hurrah, so we can hope they beat Seattle. They might just do it. But, when we beat Seattle here, that should do it…!!

    GO CARDS…

  25. By Garth Short on Dec 9, 2014 | Reply

    One of the reasons cited for making Kerwyn Williams part of the active roster was how he performed in practice the last couple of weeks. Some players even said that he wowed them. Since I doubt that there is any tackling involved, how do you wow in flag football?

  26. By John The Draft Guy on Dec 9, 2014 | Reply

    Cards62,

    Larson and Cooper were both in at the same time. Faniaka was the guard out due to injury.

    To answer your question, Larson should have been a backup. As a backup, he has done a pretty decent job. But if you consider him a starter, he has been less than stellar. Our two guards and center have struggled all year.

    To answer your question about Cooper, people will give me thumbs down and say Cooper is superman, but in reality (if you really watch the game), he had an average day. He really wasn’t much different than Larson at LG.

    Cooper, watch the first play of the game, gets blown up and Taylor is tackled for a 3 yard loss. He bounced back a little and had an up and down day. I would say he looked like a guy in his first start.

    You noticed that neither Keim nor Arians are gushing over his performance.

    Looking at other first round guards the last 2 years like Long (probowl last year) Martin (should be a probowler this year) Warmack (started 29 games out of 29) or even center Frederick (one of the top centers), he has a long way to go to be in that class. Remember, he was drafted higher than any of them.

    This week Cooper has a real fast guy in Donald and a power guy in Brockers to deal with. He needs to step up, along with the rest of the line, against a very good front four in St Louis.

  27. By John The Draft Guy on Dec 9, 2014 | Reply

    As for the Ram game;

    Three names are different since the last time we played the rams.

    Shawn Hill- No longer will we face a third string QB in Davis. Hill has been on fire, starting the last 4 games and winning 3 of them, while posting a QB over 90 and 6 TDs to 2 ints.

    Tre Mason – took over as the starter and gives the rams a home run threat in the backfield. He is averaging 4.4 yards a carry.

    Chris Long – Long can bring pressure off the edge and is the perfect compliment to Quinn on the other side.

    This is not the same team we played earlier. They are much better. Stanton has to play much better than last week, where I counted 4 dropped ints by the chiefs. The offensive line , who played well against the pass rushers on the chiefs (although Houston did have 2 sacks), must play their best game.

    The cards can come away with a win if they stick to the plan that got them 10 wins. First, take away Mason. Second, play tight man coverage. Third, blitz Hill and get pressure on him. On offense, protect the ball and hit a couple of big plays.

    Cards win 17-13.

  28. By Louisville Card on Dec 9, 2014 | Reply

    Hi Darren,

    Rough loss losing Ellington. RB looks like a big need for next season. Ellington’s work load will have to drop to keep him healthy. I see him more as a Darren Sproles type player. Very good but not your workhorse. With it looking like Marshawn might be leaving Seattle next year is there any chance the cards could realistically go after him?

  29. By Darren Urban on Dec 9, 2014 | Reply

    Louisville —

    RE: Lynch

    If he is released — and that still is an if — I’d never say never.

  30. By johnwimmer on Dec 9, 2014 | Reply

    Given what Atlanta was able to do in GB last night, perhaps the 29 points yielded by the Cards defense was not such a surprise. The offensive performance, however, was lower than dismal.

  31. By Dr. G. on Dec 9, 2014 | Reply

    JTDG – – Hill has been on a small fire only for 2 games. And when the CARDS Defense gets after him, he will be running like his hair is ON FIRE…!!

    I can’t really take the numbers from Washington and Oakland seriously. The Rams D and STs has made it easy for Hill to just chill and be comfortable. The CARDS and the Chargers beat them, and Denver wants a mulligan. Those box scores tell the story. That is the Rams last 5….

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