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Posted by Darren Urban on May 6, 2015 – 2:46 pm

Special teams work is usually all-encompassing. This time of year, there are few on the roster who aren’t taking part in the early stages of coverage work because you never know when you might be needed as part of the 53-man roster. There are exceptions, of course. Most of the defensive linemen aren’t involved, or offensive linemen. The quarterbacks. And, given their stature and status, wide receivers Larry Fitzgerald and Michael Floyd aren’t in there either.

So while the bulk of the team was specializing for the first part of today’s Phase 2 work, Carson Palmer was down on one end of a field with Fitz and Floyd, discussing in-tight red zone routes and then practicing them — how Palmer wanted the receivers to run the routes, discussing the timing and what the defensive back might do, and those sorts of things.

It was a little thing. But it’s one of those things where, when you see it, you understand why it was so important for Palmer to get back on the field this time of year after his knee injury. These are the little things that add up.

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29 Responses to “Palmer, Fitz and Floyd work”

  1. By Tyler on May 6, 2015 | Reply

    Palmer’s work ethic and attention to detail are simply unparalleled – glad to hear he’s back in the thick of things with his top two large targets!

  2. By Bruce on May 6, 2015 | Reply

    That is a good picture to see right there.

    Side note: Looks like Floyd still has a few pounds of Winter Weight he needs to drop. No worries. I know that he’ll shed the winter coat and be in fighting shape soon. Go Cards!!!

  3. By Junior on May 6, 2015 | Reply

    Carson and Fitz look in game shape, Big Mike looks like a TE.

  4. By Andy Kw on May 6, 2015 | Reply

    So excited about the Alfonzo Dennard signing!!!! His skills can go beyond Antonio Cromartie. This guy has the potential to be even better than Revis if he stays healthy and stays away from trouble. Keim is making all the right moves.

  5. By Jon on May 6, 2015 | Reply

    Where were Stanton, Logan Thomas (who really needs all the knowledge and help he can get), Brown and the other receivers?

    This is a team effort and those other guys need to learn and see the same things Palmer is working out with the F Brothers – Fitz and Floyd

  6. By casht1874 on May 6, 2015 | Reply

    down near the end zone. It used to be a staple with Wamer connecting with Fitz.

  7. By casht1874 on May 6, 2015 | Reply

    need to throw more jump balls to Floyd and Fitz. it used to be a staple with Warner.

  8. By jaime on May 6, 2015 | Reply

    is it me or does Palmer look fit as a fiddle, he looks better now then his first two seasons, physically.

  9. By Andy Kw on May 6, 2015 | Reply

    What does Alfonzo Dennard have to say about Deflategate?

  10. By azdesertrat1953 on May 6, 2015 | Reply

    If Floyd is in shape and just thick with muscle, he could very well be Harder to cover than ever before.
    He is looking Big.

    GO CARDS!!!

  11. By Big Ken on May 7, 2015 | Reply

    Any chance we bring T.Y. Hilton to Phoenix?

  12. By Dynosoar on May 7, 2015 | Reply

    Andy KW,

    Alfonzo felt deflated after the news came out.

    Bruce,

    Do these pants make me look fat? No, no, I know they do… but in a good way?

    (After all the years I’ve been in Scouting, bad jokes are my life. Haha.)

  13. By Dynosoar on May 7, 2015 | Reply

    Darren,

    earlier BA stated Logan Thomas would get a lot of reps with the first string to help his development as Palmer and Stanton recover.

    Does the news that Palmer is taking reps with the 1st string and Stanton with the second indicate that
    1. Logan isn’t getting reps
    or
    2. is it that Palmer and Stanton are recovering faster than expected
    or
    3. that this is without pads and slow speeds and something Palmer and Stanton can do while recovering,
    or
    4. something else?

    Thanks. And thanks for the information on how many College Captains we’ve drafted under Steve Keim.

  14. By Darren Urban on May 7, 2015 | Reply

    Dyno —

    RE: Questions

    1) Not as many, but will increase with two fields during OTAs.
    2) A little bit.
    3) That’s a factor.
    4) I think we’ve covered it.

  15. By blubal42 on May 7, 2015 | Reply

    Looks like Palmer needs to get some muscle in them legs!

  16. By Richard L on May 7, 2015 | Reply

    Floyd looks like Boldin from the back. Perhaps Fitz should move to wide out and Floyd to Slot like Boldin in the glory days. Let Floyd take the pounding over the middle and catch the short passes.

  17. By Dynosoar on May 7, 2015 | Reply

    Darren,

    thanks. That does cover it. Also, thanks for digging into the Captains we’ve drafted.

    That’s a lot, now I’m going to dig and see if that’s normal for a team or if Keim drafts Captains more than other teams. Maybe Captains are more likely to be in the draft.

  18. By John The Draft Guy on May 7, 2015 | Reply

    Andy KW says –
    So excited about the Alfonzo Dennard signing!!!! His skills can go beyond Antonio Cromartie. This guy has the potential to be even better than Revis if he stays healthy and stays away from trouble

    What ???

    A 7th round guy who was cut by a team who just lost their top two CBs, is potentially better than the best CB in the last decade??
    Skills better than Cromartie and Revis, yet the Jets forked out all that money for those two when Bowles should have just waited till Dennard was cut.

    OK, I get some fans think Keim can do no wrong and every move is amazing, but I am sure if you asked Steve Keim about the signing, he will say he brought in a guy who can compete with Bethel and add depth.

  19. By John The Draft Guy on May 7, 2015 | Reply

    Dynosoar,

    If you were Palmer and you lead the team to a 6-0 record, only to see the season slip away after your injury, I am sure you would be wanting every rep.

    If I am Palmer, I would say, “go find a shady tree to sit under Thomas, I got this the rest of the way”, Regardless if I thought Thomas was good or not.

    Of course I have my opinions on Thomas. I don’t ever see him as the cards starting QB ever. I see the cards drafting an early QB next year, as Stanton is a FA.

    In a way way too early assessment, I think Conner Cook from Mich St will be the First overall pick by the Washington Redskins. So we wont get him but, Possibly Kevin Hogan of Stanford or Max Smith of Kentucky may be there at the 32nd pick.

    Something to chew on for the next 350 days.

  20. By Dynosoar on May 7, 2015 | Reply

    John The Draft Guy,

    I’m in no way disparaging that Palmer and Stanton are getting the reps., just reconciling BA’s statements at the end of last season and keeping fingers crossed that it’s more a statement on Palmer and Stanton’s health than on Logan’s development.

    I’ll watch these QBs you mention and raise you one, what are your thoughts on Joshua Dobbs from Tennessee. He’s a Junior this year and has been injured (not major, but enough to keep him from finishing a season his Freshman and Sophomore years.)

    He looks good, having over 1000 yards and 9 TDs in four games. He’s also won I think 5 of 6 games.

    I think the Jaguars will have the number one pick next year. The real question, how will the 49ers do with all their shakeups AND how will the Eagles do with all the changes and supposed potential trades of several players for Mariota?

    Will be a fun and interesting year and a better year for Cardinals fans.

    (I’m a chewing.)

  21. By John The Draft Guy on May 7, 2015 | Reply

    Dynosoar,

    I know as much about Dobbs as Rodney Gunter.

    Let’s hope they both do well this year.🙂

  22. By John The Draft Guy on May 7, 2015 | Reply

    Dynosoar,

    I was speaking for Palmer.
    I mean all those years with the Bengals (got to playoffs a couple times), then off the the black hole literally in Oakland, only to find a chance to get a ring in the desert.

    Everything is going perfect, then his knee pops. Out for the season and to only wonder what could have been. Palmer knows he is on the wrong side of 30 and he knows his window is closing.

    So I can imagine him telling Thomas, get out of my way kid, I’m taking this team to the superbowl. I would be saying the same thing to Stanton. Nothing against the other two, but I just have to believe Palmer was so disappointed he got hurt last year and is ready to get back out there asap.

    Your line “Superbowl or bust” . Got to believe Palmer is all in.

  23. By brinnc on May 7, 2015 | Reply

    Hjave to agree with JTDG on Kennard, he was cut Cards put in a waiver claim in hopes of adding depth and competition and he comes cheap!! What worries me is how the Cardinals ended up with being awarded the waiver claim on him, that means that 20+ other teams that finishedcwith worse records didnt put a claim on Kennard, as well as why the Pats cut him in the first place, they lost both their starting CB’s, one of them is top 3 in the league, maybe even the best CB in xxx the NFL, then they cut Browner, one would tend to think that if Kennard were that good the Pats would hold on tightly to this guy and sit back licking their chops waiting forcthe season to start with Kennard at one of their corners, instead, they cut him!! Does this raise a flag for anyone else?? He did do over a month in jail for probation violation, is there a possibility that he is facing suspension? I would think the Cardinals would have done their homework on this kid and if he has pending legal or pending a suspension they would have steered clear of him, I would hope that is the case, I dont think they would have put a waiver claim on him if he has new legal issues pending. He will provide competition and depth, may win the starting job, nobody knows until training camp and preseason is over, but he isnt anywhere near the talent level as Cromartie, and not even in the same universe as Revis!!! My biggest fear is Kennard will be the best CB the Cardinals put on the field this season, if that ends up being the case, we may have a serious problem!! I for one think Bethel is going to step up and have a coming out party at CB!! (Fingers crossed!) One positive, at least on paper it seems we have improved our pass rush, if so the Corners wont have to be on an island 1 on 1 for almost 50% of defensive snaps!!! We shouldnt have to blitz quite as much if our pass rush is much improved as it seems to be on paper! Although I love the blitz, and love to see the Cardinals blitz, it is a huge risk, huge reward type of move, but if you miss, usually ends bad for the defense, using the blitz to mask a weakness is not my idea of fun! Hopefully Kennard has put his legal issues behind him and comes in and makes Bethel and Powers better, and if we end up in a perfect world we may have found a solid starter, without breaking the bank, or he brings the best out of Bethel and Kennard provides us with solid depth!! We shall see!!!

  24. By jasonc on May 7, 2015 | Reply

    JTDG-

    I had the same thought when AndyKW posted that, but I was going to let it slide….I like that you didn’t.

    Then you had to go and make another dig at my guy Logan Thomas! I need you to be honest….isn’t there a small part of you that is excited to see how he has improved this offseason? Maybe even just a hint of cautious, optimistic, curiosity? What do you need to see to start to even consider that he could be our future starter?

  25. By Louisville Card on May 8, 2015 | Reply

    @JTDG

    What about KY qb makes you think he will be good? Smith will be lucky to make a team if he’s picked. The kid hasn’t won more than six games in a season? If the cards are looking for a starting qb in next years draft they are going to be in trouble. There aren’t any quality qb that I’ve seen yet. Maybe their play will change my mind this year, but the cards missed their best chance at a young franchise qb when they passed on Bridgewater. If the cards history of qb’s holds true I would bet They get Brady or some other old vet qb in a few years when Palmer retires…

  26. By Big Ken on May 8, 2015 | Reply

    Get ready for the roster churn. Let’s not get too excited about the Mr. Kennard signing. Here today gone tomorrow.

  27. By Scott H on May 8, 2015 | Reply

    Hey, where is Palmer’s knee brace???

  28. By John The Draft Guy on May 8, 2015 | Reply

    jasonc,

    To be honest , no. I really have no faith in Thomas at all. I honestly hope I am wrong.

    I get why we didn’t take a QB, because none were worth the pick.
    I also get that we will need someone to be that #2 QB when Stanton test FA next year.

    I just don’t believe that guy is Thomas and I believe the cards (or I believe they should) draft a QB very early (maybe #1) in next years draft.

  29. By Scott H on May 10, 2015 | Reply

    Just commenting on the picture…..um, did Fitz forget to put on some pants???

    Larry, I love ya, man but the magenta colored leggings….not a good look, bro.

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