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Arians delivers a soft warning

Posted by Darren Urban on June 8, 2017 – 1:25 pm

Larry Fitzgerald has already created a legacy that would look pretty nice even if he walked away from the game tomorrow, but that didn’t stop him from being angry (enough that he bellowed an expletive) for not being able to bring in a catch at one recent practice of what was basically an errant throw. That’s what you notice about Fitz, how much he works whenever he is on the practice field.

You also notice that he’s always on the practice field. He doesn’t get banged up often, not in the offseason. Not every player can say the same. It’s something Bruce Arians said he noticed when it comes to soft-tissue problems.

“He knows how to train,” Arians said of Fitz. “He’s tweaked (hamstrings), but he keeps going. He knows how to train. These young guys, they don’t know how to train when they go by themselves, or they hire somebody who trains them to run track. Not move around and hit the ground and push things. So they get soft-tissue injuries when they get to (training) camp.”

Arians said there was a “long conversation” Thursday morning on the topic with the team in their final meeting of the offseason.

“You get a soft-tissue injury this year (in camp), you’re probably going to get cut,” Arians said. “It’s just too competitive.”


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21 Responses to “Arians delivers a soft warning”

  1. By Marlin on Jun 8, 2017 | Reply

    love that man

  2. By shooter28 on Jun 8, 2017 | Reply

    That Arians version of telling guys he isn’t going to be putting up with guys “pulling” a hamstring because they are tired and just want a break, which I am sure a lot of guys do to get the day off when they are worn down and exhausted from August Arizona training camps…. This years camp is going to be very competitive with all the talent AZ has offensively & Defensively.

  3. By Bill Thompson on Jun 8, 2017 | Reply

    BA hates the “new” CBA. I said the same thing 10 days ago. When you can’t hit and play real football, guys don’t develop. I’m old school, 4 weeks training camp with pads, and two a days or three a days when guys screw up. The CBA we have now is to protect the older player and make it harder for younger guys to make the team.

  4. By faster on Jun 8, 2017 | Reply

    darren, about bwill and pr, do you know, if the special team uses virtual reality as an exercise? what i mean, if you look at films, you see mostly from above, so if you transform the viewpoint down to the puntcatcher, you can maybe compare decisionmaking from pp to all the others.
    so you could select some players better on decisions about fair catch or running for it, and then try them in the game. don`t know if possible ….

  5. By Darren Urban on Jun 8, 2017 | Reply

    Faster —

    RE: VR

    Pretty sure that isn’t available in virtual reality. Also, in that case, catching a live punt with guys bearing down on you to crush your butt is a lot different than simulating it.

  6. By Richard S on Jun 8, 2017 | Reply

    I know Arians thinks players should loosen up on their own prior to practice so it won’t cut into the time allotted for practice, but I think our prior coach had better luck having an organized routine where the team loosened up together. I just hate to see the hamstring injuries. I know when I was in high school I didn’t take the coach seriously when he told me to run a half mile before I took my first high hurdle before a meet. The result Groin muscle tear – coach told me to join the pep squad when I couldn’t run and I told him the track team didn’t have a pep squad. He finally believed that I was actually hurt when I limped through a quarter mile sprint at a meet. I didn’t letter that year.

  7. By joe holst on Jun 8, 2017 | Reply

    We need to raid the Jets for one of their defensive lineman since they are already folding the tent this year, We already have the connection wit Todd Bowles so I say we send a 2nd and 4th for Leonard Williams and give the D-line an instant injection of talent, youth and performance.

  8. By Tradersbrain on Jun 8, 2017 | Reply

    Darren,

    “These young guys, they don’t know how to train when they go by themselves…”
    Does Buddy Morris create a custom strength and conditioning program for each player? If yes, why would a player deviate from that program outside the facility?

  9. By Darren Urban on Jun 9, 2017 | Reply

    Traders —

    RE: Program

    Yes, and I can’t answer that one.

  10. By clssylssy on Jun 9, 2017 | Reply

    The “new” CBA is hardly new, since it’s been around now since 2011, I don’t think anybody is a fan, and, perhaps is why the NFLPA is advising players to begin putting money away now to prepare for a longer lockout when the CBA expires in 2020, and everybody is back to the drawing board. To say that the current CBA is to protect older players and make it harder for younger guys to make the team sounds like some wild eyed conspiracy theory from the tinfoil hat contingent…ROFL!
    The fact is that the game has changed, is faster now with more and more players suffering serious injury, and the CBA was a hurried attempt to focus on player safey,at the time, but turned out to be more of an incomplete gesture than anything of substance. We now know about the link between head trauma and things like CTE, and other sports related sequelae.
    I agree that the CBA in it’s present form has done little for anybody, players, fans, or the game but, it’s been around for six years now and is hardly a new hurdle. Good players and coaches have found a way to work around it by maintaining a healthy and fit body all year around and independently assuming responsibility for staying in shape. The older players may have seen the wisdom in playing smarter
    and taking care of themselves but that’s just maturity vs, youthful arrogance.
    The fact is that even coaches, while complaining about the restrictions for practicing fully, are, at the same time the ones who want to limit the contact hitting, as BA said in his presser when talking about adding a scrimage with another team and noting that the HOF game was going to be enough added risk.

  11. By Scott H on Jun 9, 2017 | Reply

    I like that there seems to be a more serious, focused tone going in to camp this year.

    I also like that we have Reddick – and now all of our rookies – on board. Let’s get to work.

    At every turn, how can ya not love Fitz and his way of doing EVERYTHING? Over the years, there are players his age all around the league who are not working right now, either because they are vets who already know what they need to know or they are just taking it easy physically. And in some situations, that might be OK. But how amazing is it that a player already headed to the HOF, in his 14th year, is not only out there working hard but showing frustration when he doesn’t measure up to HIS OWN standards???

    I can only feel blessed to have been witness to this man’s career. Because there may never be another quite like him.

  12. By JTDG on Jun 9, 2017 | Reply

    Not a fan of these kinds of statements;

    “You get a soft-tissue injury this year (in camp), you’re probably going to get cut,” Arians said. “It’s just too competitive.”

    Lets face it, if you are a bubble guy, you will get cut but is Peterson getting cut? How about Palmer? Even Reddick or Baker isn’t going anywhere.

    While tough talk is a nice sound bite , it isn’t true for everyone.

    Like Jimmy Johnson use to say, if a bubble guy falls asleep in a meeting, he is cut. If Aikman falls asleep, wake him up and fill him in with what he missed.

  13. By D on Jun 9, 2017 | Reply

    So should John Brown and R. Nkemdiche be worried if their hamstring issues linger into camp?

  14. By mal on Jun 9, 2017 | Reply

    Darren-

    how did Kurt do in the bucket toss competition?

  15. By Darren Urban on Jun 9, 2017 | Reply

    Mal —

    RE: Bucket

    He didn’t lose, and that’s the whole point of that thing.

  16. By JTDG on Jun 9, 2017 | Reply

    Joe Hoist;

    A 2nd and 4th for Williams???

    Leonard Williams is one of the best young DLineman in the NFL. The guy has 131 tackles and 10 sacks in his first 2 years as a 3-4 DE. He is the Jets best player. He made the probowl in 2016 and is on a path to seeing multiple probowls.

    Do you think the cards would have traded Patrick Peterson for a 2nd and 4th after his first 2 years ?

    No way do the Jets trade Williams for 2 first round picks. This is a building block that you start with when rebuilding the Jets. They have a nice young LB they picked last year and added a pair of great safeties in the draft. The Jets are trying to get rid of the older high priced players not the young inexpensive guys. Thinking a 2 and 4 can land one of the best young players in the NFL would never happen.

  17. By D on Jun 9, 2017 | Reply

    Lenard Williams isn’t going to be traded. Maybe you are thinking of S. Richardson who can be a dominating DE. Now, he can be had/traded for by a 4-5th round draft pick. He is a knucklehead but when his mind is right, could be the player to replace C. Campbell for 2017. The worry is his attitude/practice habits may not be a good example to put in the same room as younger players like Gunter and NKemdiche.

  18. By faster on Jun 9, 2017 | Reply

    darren, as i understand it, the qbs are working with vr, so it should only be a small step for special teams. and, yes, reality is a lot more exciting (“with guys bearing down on you to crush your butt”) then vr alone, but reality and vr together in practice should help to exercise the decisionmaking.
    would be interesting to know, what our qb coaches think about it, maybe you could ask them. i remember carson palmers: “.. he uses the VR headset to practice football plays from every angle, watching the placement of his arm and elbow as he whips the ball, and see why a play either failed or succeeded…”.
    so why not punt returners?

  19. By AndyM on Jun 9, 2017 | Reply

    Yeah, I don’t love the “soft tissue” threats, either. I suppose BA is making a point, though. Anyone can get injured at any time and it does not necessarily have to do with training or age or toughness. Today’s NFL has become enamored with extreme and explosive speed and plyometric training that presupposes tissue is being broken down and over-stressed to adapt to greater demands. Everyone covets and marvels at speed and explosiveness, but there is a downside. This is a tightrope. Bottom line: if you are on the bubble, take care of yourself.

  20. By Bill Thompson on Jun 9, 2017 | Reply

    to: clssylssy

    linemen do not develop in shorts. They learned how to block (offense) and learn how to rush and tackle when they are in pads! Period!

  21. By clssylssy on Jun 10, 2017 | Reply

    Bill Thompson…
    As I recall, our tackling technique could use some work and Fitz is about the only solid blocker we have left so, I guess we have an opportunity to do much needed work on the basics so MAYBE we’ll be ready to do the one on one’s when it’s allowed in training camp. This isn’t your daddy’s NFL anymore and technique is important, just as the classroom is. Ir’a process.

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