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Broncos — and preseason — aftermath

Posted by Darren Urban on August 31, 2017 – 10:55 pm

The preseason is over. The veterans and guys who know they have locked up roster spots, it’s a great time. Football counts the next time the Cardinals play a game. But the next hours and days are hard for many of the others on the bottom half of the list. Take guard/center Cole Toner, who looked like he might be the Cards’ choice as a seventh offensive lineman but then ran into some issues in Atlanta. It made Thursday’s game in Denver a little more important.

“I’m definitely not comfy,” Toner said. “I played the whole game today, so usually that doesn’t portend good things, but honestly I don’t know.

“I’m confident. I don’t know. We’ll watch the film tomorrow. I thought I played well. I didn’t play that well in Atlanta so I needed to come back and play a better game, which I did. So I’m proud of myself for that. It’s on to the regular season — if the opportunity presents itself for me.”

That was a lot of Thursday. Some impressed Bruce Arians, like Rudy Ford and Elijhaa Penny. Some didn’t, although Arians wasn’t being specific. This is about a “final” roster, but it’s also about a lot of guys getting their dreams crushed, and Arians is cognizant of that.

— The good news is the Cards came out of the preseason fairly healthy. Rookie defensive tackle Pasoni Tasini hurt his right knee, although Arians said it was likely a sprain and not serious. That’d be good, because Tasini figures to be a practice-squad candidate.

— No decision yet on the punter, although I thought Matt Wile probably won the job.

— I thought Ford, the rookie safety, looked good playing in the second half, and Arians noted him specifically. Ford and Harlan Miller looked like they were in a battle for a last secondary spot. Both are practice squad-eligible, so maybe that’s where the one goes who doesn’t make the roster.

— Here’s my guess — and it’s just a guess, although educated after watching the last six weeks — at the 53-man roster.

— The Cardinals will meet as a team Friday morning and then the players have a few days off. That’s good because the front office has plenty to sort through with all the cuts coming. I am not sure what the schedule is for releasing guys when it comes to the Cards, but names could start trickling out as it happens. Arians has a press conference late Friday morning.


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39 Responses to “Broncos — and preseason — aftermath”

  1. By joe holst on Sep 1, 2017 | Reply

    if they are worried about penny replacing Stepfan Taylor how come they just didn’t re-sign Taylor? Is he w/out a team?

  2. By Darren Urban on Sep 1, 2017 | Reply

    Joe —

    RE: Taylor

    He is unsigned.

  3. By Scott H on Sep 1, 2017 | Reply

    Well, that was ugly. We scored the first 2 points, then allowed the next 30. Good lord.

    They start to count now. Onward.

  4. By Bob41 on Sep 1, 2017 | Reply

    I’m glad that I went to bed!

  5. By JTDG on Sep 1, 2017 | Reply

    Darren,

    Woofley didn’t come out and say this, he stopped short, but eluded to it. He was talking about Bynes and thinking he might play more than one thinks. He then went on about Reddick, although impressive, is a rookie.

    It sounded like he was eluding to Bynes might start over Reddick in game 1.

    Any thoughts?

  6. By Darren Urban on Sep 1, 2017 | Reply

    JTDG —

    RE: Bynes/Reddick

    Would I be surprised if Reddick doesn’t play the whole time? No. But I expect Reddick to start. We’ll see. Part of it also might have to do with Bucannon status.

  7. By mitchaz on Sep 1, 2017 | Reply

    Cardinals’ Room Changes from 2016 to 2017…Is The House More Valuable?

    As NFL teams head into what should be one of the most frenetic 48 hour waiver wire periods in NFL history, it might be worth taking a look at where the Cardinals are personnel-wise this year to where they were last year. Coming off a disappointing 7-8-1 season and losing a dozen free agents to other teams this off-season, one would think that this year’s Cardinals would have a sharply different look…but upon further review…

    QB:

    Returnees: Carson Palmer, Drew Stanton
    Defections: None
    Addition: UFA Blaine Gabbert

    The addition of Gabbert has made the room deeper and has provided Drew Stanton with some added motivation. Gabbert has a year to prove he belongs in the 2018 QB mix. Having Gabbert to share reps with Stanton in practice has helped the coaches keep Palmer fresh.

    RB:

    Returnees: David Johnson, Kerwynn Williams, Chris Johnson, Andre Ellington, Elijhaa Penny
    Defections: Stepfan Taylor
    Addition: T.J. Logan (5th round pick—currently on IR)

    With Logan on the IR, currently there are no new faces in the room. The thought is that Williams deserved a promotion to #2 RB, and now he’s the primary kickoff and punter returner in Logan’s absence. BA suggests that Penny could assume Taylor’s STs/short yardage #4 RB role. Johnson and Ellington were re-signed to provide depth.

    WR:

    Returnees: Larry Fitzgerald, Jaron Brown, John Brown, J.J. Nelson, Brittan Golden, Jeremy Ross
    Defections: Michael Floyd (MIN)
    Addition: Chad Williams (3rd round pick—coming off disappointing camp)

    Basically the room is exactly the same as what it was after Floyd was released, save Jaron Brown’s return from the IR.

    TE:

    Returnees: Jermaine Gresham, Troy Niklas, Ifeanyi Momah, Hakeem Valles
    Defections: Darren Fells (DET)
    Addition: None

    The Cardinals made Gresham one of the highest paid TEs in free agency. The room remains the same, save for Fells’ departure, filled by a now healthy Niklas.

    T:

    Returnees: D.J. Humphries, Jared Veldheer, John Wetzel, Ulrich John
    Defections: None
    Addition: Will Holden (5th round pick—on roster bubble)

    Same room essentially, only Humphries and Veldheer have flipped sides. Wetzel remains the #3 T.

    G:

    Returnees: Mike Iupati, Evan Boehm, Cole Toner
    Defections: Evan Mathis (retired), Earl Watford (JAX)
    Addition: Dorian Johnson (4th round pick—stayed 3rd stringer throughout camp)

    Same room as it was at the end of the year, minus Watford. This time Boehm, who was drafted to succeed Shipley at center, has assumed the starting RG spot. Iupati is lighter this year, but is already nursing a triceps injury.

    C:

    Returnee: A.Q. Shipley, Daniel Munyer (PS)
    Defections: Tyler Boggs (CHI)
    Additions: UFA Tony Bergstrom

    Shipley was re-signed to a 2 year deal and remains the starter. Munyer may be COF. Bergstrom had a solid camp. Cole Toner was switched here and made a decent transition.

    NT:

    Returnees: Corey Peters, Rodney Gunter
    Defections: None
    Addition: UDFA Pasoni Tasini

    Same room. Xavier Williams adds depth here as well.

    DE:

    Returnees: Frostee Rucker, Josh Mauro, Robert Nkemdiche, Olsen Pierre, Xavier Williams, Ed Stinson
    Defections: Calais Campbell (JAX)
    Addition: None

    Rucker and Mauro were re-signed. The room is the same, minus Campbell. The hope is that Nkemdiche will emerge as Campbell’s successor.

    ILB:

    Returnees: Deone Bucannon, Scooby Wright
    Defections: Kevin Minter (CIN), Sio Moore (HOU)
    Additions: UFA Karlos Dansby, Haason Reddick (1st round pick), Josh Bynes, Philip Wheeler

    Dansby was signed to assume the leadership of the defense, but has been injured through most of camp. Reddick is the team’s short-term replacement for Deone Buccanon, who is now off the PUP list and hoping to play asap.

    OLB:

    Returnees: Markus Golden, Chandler Jones, Kareeem Martin, Cap Capi
    Defections: Alex Okafor (NO)
    Additions: UFA Jarvis Jones (out with disc injury), Alex Bazzie

    Same room, especially since Jarvis Jones has not been able to contribute, Martin and Capi have stepped up as depth players.

    CB:

    Returnees: Patrick Peterson, Justin Bethel, Brandon Williams, Ronald Zamort
    Defections: Marcus Cooper (CHI)
    Addition: UFA Tramon Williams

    Same room (minus Cooper and adding Tramon Williams). Bethel and Brandon Williams have been relied on and thus far have shown improvement.

    S:

    Returnees: Tyrann Mathieu, Tyvon Branch, Harlan Miller
    Defections: Tony Jefferson (BAL), D.J. Swearinger (WAS)
    Additions: UFA Antoine Bethea, Budda Baker (2nd round pick—good camp, should contribute in the nickel), Rudy Ford (6th round pick—looks like a good STs player and centerfield tackler)

    While the starters, Mathieu and Branch, are returnees, significant depth was added in Bethea, Baker and Ford.

    STs:

    Returnees: LS Gabe Brewer, P Matt Wile
    Defections: K Chandler Catanzaro (NYJ)
    Additions: UFA K Phil Dawson, P Richie Leone

    Dawson may be the most valuable addition on the roster if he steadies the kicking game.

    Room Analysis:

    Pretty much all of the rooms remain the same (QB, RB, WR, TE, T, G, C, NT, DE, OLB, CB) except some depth added at ILB and S, and the addition of a veteran kicker.

    Two new starters who were not on the roster last year: ILB Karlos Dansby, K Phil Dawson.

    Steve Keim’s Philosophy: build from within, maintain continuity, meanwhile adding 4 compensatory picks in the 2018 NFL Draft (projected to be a 3rd, a 4th and two 6th rounders).

    Keim has put a great deal of trust into the likes of RB Kerwynn Williams, C A.Q. Shipley, G Evan Boehm, WR Jaron Brown, WR John Brown, TE Jermaine Gresham, TE Troy Niklas, NT Corey Peters, DE Frostee Rucker, DE Josh Mauro, DE Robert Nekmediche, ILB Kalros Dansby, $LB Deone Bucannon, OLB Kareem Martin, CB Justin Bethel, CB Brandon Williams, S Tyrann Mathieu and S Tyvon Branch.

    Will Keim’s trust in building the roster from within be rewarded? Or will the 2017 team prolong the 2016 team’s struggles? is this 2017 team, personnel-wise stronger that the 2016 team? is the team chemistry, resiliency and resolve stronger?

    Steve Keim is banking on a couple of highly affordable room changes to increase the value of the house.

  8. By carlsonchemist on Sep 1, 2017 | Reply

    Hi Darren,

    What will be the process of teams claiming players off the waiver wire after they have whittled the roster down to the final 53 man roster? Is the waiver wire released all at once and it’s the luck of the draw as to what teams claim the best players released? Or is there a standardized process whereby teams can claim waived players in a predetermined order, much like in the draft?

    I know nothing about this process and would appreciate your shedding some light on this process.

  9. By Darren Urban on Sep 1, 2017 | Reply

    Carlson —

    RE: Waivers

    Players cut that are subject to waivers are all governed by the same rules. All 32 teams have a chance to claim them. Right now it goes by last year’s draft order, so Cleveland is No. 1. If the Browns claimed 53 guys on waivers, regardless of who else claimed each player, the Browns would be awarded every one. Of course, that means they’d have to cut someone for each guy they were awarded.

    The Cardinals are 13th in line, so if any of the 12 teams ahead of them claim the same player, the Cards would not get him.

  10. By mitchaz on Sep 1, 2017 | Reply

    Darren—

    I think your 53 man roster prediction is outstanding.

    The only 2 questions I have:

    1. Andre Ellington ahead of Chris Johnson (although a waiver wire claim may send both AE and CJ packing—so it may be a moot point).

    2. Cole Toner ahead of Tony Bergstrom. I am with you in keeping the younger player, but I just wonder if Harold Goodwin would be more confident in Bergstrom as the 7th OL (and swing C/G) on game days. BA and Goodwin really seem to like C Daniel Munyer, but more for the future than now. Who else could be the swing G/C? It comes down to Toner and Bergstrom. What are your thoughts?

  11. By Darren Urban on Sep 1, 2017 | Reply

    Mitchaz —

    RE: RB

    1) The Cards aren’t claiming an RB.

    2) Bergstrom struggled in camp more than Toner did. I’m not sure if they think Toner is the right guy, but I don’t sense a lot of confidence in Bergstrom either.

  12. By Rowlan Colorado Springs on Sep 1, 2017 | Reply

    Attended the game last night in Denver. Wasn’t expecting much, just a chance to cheer on a few good plays and see some energy from the team as they head into the regular season without making the long trek down to UOP. Obviously didn’t go that way.

    On my way to the game we were listening to the Broncos pre game talk show on the radio previewing the game. A former NFL player from Notre Dame ( i wish i caught his name ) was commenting on Coach Arians. None of it was good when it came to player and coach relationship. He basically said that Arians was a disliked coach and that he had a bunch of underperforming assistants. i told my kids he didn’t know what he was talking about. As i sat in the stands behind the cardinals sideline and watched the game and sideline very closely, I suddenly began to wonder if he was right. I listened to the Broncos fans comment on our dropped balls, miscommunication, and lack of energy. I know it has been a long camp! But as i watched the Broncos players do the wave with the fans in the 4th quarter and Von Miller get so excited when the 3rd string quarterback carved us up i thought ” we must get that passion back!!”

    For some reason i couldn’t help but wonder about this team with Coach McGinnis…..just my mind wondering, it was 30-2!

    I’m a very positive person though and the last time we opened up in Detroit a diamond in the rough broke through. Shout out to the retired “Q”. Who will it be this year?

    WE ARE ALL CARDS FOR LIFE, LETS DO THIS

  13. By clssylssy on Sep 1, 2017 | Reply

    That WAS UGLY! But, listening to Ron Wolfley drone on was even worse, and so I did some channel surfing of other games. Gotta say the 9ers are looking VERY impressive and the NFC has improved significantly, which is going to make the road to the playoffs even more difficult–no gimmes on the horizon that I can see.
    The thought of over 1000 players hitting the waiver wire is pretty staggering and I really don’t like this new system much as we will see a saturated market with many guys out of work. Clearly this is not going to work in favor of the players b/c of organizational politics, and many FOs resistant to cutting ties with those they;ve drafted, irregardless.
    Have we learned anything this offseason that we didn’t know before? Not that much really. I do like the fact that we seem to have developed our TEs more but we still haven’t figured out how to stay healthy while player tougher. While Robert Nkemdiche has had a good camp, he still has a long way to go to replace Calais.

  14. By jaime on Sep 1, 2017 | Reply

    kicking has me worried, kicking is key to winning this year.

  15. By JTDG on Sep 1, 2017 | Reply

    Darren,

    Interesting comments about Toner. If Shipley was injured, would you say Toner comes in or Boehm bounces over and Wetzel steps in at guard?

  16. By Darren Urban on Sep 1, 2017 | Reply

    JTDG —

    RE: Shipley

    As of right now, I’d guess Toner to get through a game and then we would see. Boehm hasn’t worked at center at all, so I don’t know how quickly that could come together.

  17. By creditcard on Sep 1, 2017 | Reply

    To say the least — the Bronco game was ugly and embarrassing. Cards played slow and w/o much effort or urgency. Shame on the organization.

    As for the camp battles:

    1. Wile or a free agent
    2. Back up running backs: Look at free agency. # 40, Thompson, of the Broncos stood out, as did the 3rd string running back on the Cowboys. I think Forte will also be available. Chris Johnson, Ellington s/b be ready to pack their bags. Penny might make the squad for special team play.
    3. LineBacker: Capi still looks OK as did Bazzie, # 57, Walker,on the Broncos looked real good. If Walker is available — choose him!
    4.Safety: Put Ford and Miller on the practice squad and then sign Bronces FA safety, TJ Ward.
    5. Back-up Offensive Line: Wetzel, Toner (maybe), and search for Free Agents. After Toner — the rest of the Cards O Linemen are garbage.
    6. Back -up D-Linemen, search the market — literally no talent behind 1st and 2nd D line units.
    7.5th, 6th or 7th WR: Who knows. The QB play so pathetic — impossible to tell which WR is worthy of playing in the NFL.

  18. By JTDG on Sep 1, 2017 | Reply

    mitchaz,

    I think what your chart shows is the cards are looking at the same guys as 2016, but the additions are all the injured guys coming back.

    One could look at Matheu, John and Jaron Brown, Branch, as additions to go with Dansby and the Kicker.

    What Keim is banking on is 2016 rookies stepping up and injured players coming back and Dawson kicking a whole lot better.

    With those addition, especially Kicker, would the 2016 cards won more games? I think it is an easy argument. Of course. I think they would have won 10 or 11 games.

    The big question, would that have been enough to beat the Falcons ? Only speculation, as we will never know.

    But that is the issue this year. They have the guys healthy and have a good kicker.If they can get to the playoffs, will they have enough to run the table?

    We will see starting on Sept 10 vs the Lions.

  19. By Adam Smith b1723 fka DTL on Sep 1, 2017 | Reply

    No WAGs but watching the wire. Sad, but exciting. Wondering if see 2-3 cuts today of mature players to give chance to get on roster ahead of the rush…

  20. By D on Sep 1, 2017 | Reply

    Cards shouldn’t wait for A. Lee, Punter, to be released and to be subject to waivers. Guessing they are working the Charlotte’s GM phone today trying to lower the comp pick demand. I would also be trying to work a trade deal for an OL-Guard too.

    Bynes could give Betcher flexibility of using Reddick as OLB this year once Dbuc is back starting.

  21. By mitchaz on Sep 1, 2017 | Reply

    Darren—

    Good call on Chris Johnson and Tony Bergstrom. So far so good!

  22. By clssylssy on Sep 1, 2017 | Reply

    Holy Moses! Sheldon Richardson to the Seahawks for Jermaine Kearse,,,LEGION OF BIG BOOM! And the heads have begun to roll all around with Chris Johnson sadly getting the boot over Ellington !

  23. By creditcard on Sep 1, 2017 | Reply

    There are a lot of posts from the fans as to who they think should or should not make the team. Tough decisions ahead for 32 NFL teams. This post is not about personnel decisions, but lack of effort by the Cards in last night’s game.

    What I am disappointed in, was the lack of energy and desire to win last nights final preseason game. I know the preseason games are meaningless, but instilling a winning attitude is a must for any organization. The Cards were lethargic, flat, lifeless …. They definitely gave the appearance of not wanting to be competitive.

    I also do not understanding playing Gabbert only 1 qtr vs. the entire game. They knew a month ago, Knight was not going to make this team. Gabbert could have handed the ball off just as effectively as Knight, and threw a handful of passes w/o much risk of injury. This way, at least the back end of the WR room could have been evaluated a little better than what happened last night. Good grief, Knight could not have hit water by throwing a ball off the end of a pier. He was simply horrible.

    How can a team evaluate players properly when certain players are not pro-worthy or when the team has effectively tossed in the towel after the 1st qtr.

  24. By Darren Urban on Sep 1, 2017 | Reply

    credit —

    RE: Gabbert/Knight

    The answer on that was simple. Gabbert was making this team. Knight was not. They weren’t going to keep Gabbert out there. No reason to.

    As far as evaluating players, it’s about how they are doing their individual jobs than actual results. Case in point: Rudy Ford came from deep centerfield at sprinter speed to make a tackle on a run yesterday. Guy gained 8 yards because OLB didn’t set edge. But for Ford, it was a great play all the way around.

    As for the WRs, those decisions had basically already been made.

  25. By creditcard on Sep 1, 2017 | Reply

    One last rant….

    I watched the game via a Denver affiliated TV station. Commentators were Ron Zappolo and color analyst Chad Brown. Brown played in the NFl for some 15-years. He mentioned, as well as Zappolo that the Cards were not playing hard and ‘already on the flight back to Phoenix’. multiple times. The pair of them sharply criticized the Cards for their lack of effort and that it makes player determination all the more difficult.

    Darren, you are a part of the Cardinal organization — can you please run this complaint up the proverbial flagpole that us fans do not want to see lackluster effort ever — even in a preseason game.

  26. By Coach K on Sep 1, 2017 | Reply

    Sorry, but I am not sold on Penny. North-South he looks strong and powerful, but if he is forced to bounce to the outside, he is simply too slow. I’m sorry, but in the NFL, that won”t work.

    I’ll stick with David Johnson on short yardage goal-line, or even CJ2K who still has the burst and knows how to keep his pads low and get in the end zone. Penny runs high at times and I just don’t like his lack of a jump cut.

    I have bigger concerns about our defense and its inability to stop the run and the QB bootleg play. Every week of pre-season our defense is gashed by huge off tackle run plays and QB waggle pass plays. This is really a big concern as I see it. Seems like the defense is over-aggressive and gets caught not protecting gap control.

  27. By D on Sep 1, 2017 | Reply

    So, it appears Peter Carroll has been reading this blog and seeing my plea’s for obtaining S. Richardson from the Jets. That team just got better today. AZ better counter this deal in 48hrs by improving their roster.

  28. By JTDG on Sep 1, 2017 | Reply

    Coach K,

    I agree with you about Penny. Not sold on him as a runner either. I think he makes the team due to special teams and not running ability.

    My concern is, if DJ goes down with a long term injury, there is no one on this roster who could pick up the load. I don’t understand the cut of Chris Johnson. He can pick up blitzes, he can catch the ball, he is a better runner than anyone on the roster.

    That move is beyond me.

  29. By Scott H on Sep 1, 2017 | Reply

    Like some others, I’m seeing where the Seahawks just landed Sheldon Richardson in a trade. And the best just keep getting better.

    Note to Cardinals front office for future reference – THAT is aggressive, folks. OK? THAT is aggressive. When you are already one of THE best defensive units in the NFL and you make a trade to add a big gun like Sheldon Richardson to the arsenal…..THAT is aggressive.

    Winston Chruchill once said that wars are not won by evacuations. He was referring to a successful evacuation of troops from a particular area of France. While the evacuation was successful in that the troops got out intact, it was a LOSS in that it meant that they were, in fact, retreating.

    Well, to apply that concept here in regard to the Cardinals, I would say that defenses are not made better by subtractions. Because when ya put it all on the scale, our defense lost more than it took in this past off-season. This defense could have used a move like the afore-mentioned trade, especially at the CB position.

    Sorry but the past few days have just been a big one-two punch to the gut for me as a Cardinals fan. First, no pulse when Haden became available. Then, a major addition / up-grade to Seattle’s defense with the trade for Richardson.

    Oh, but wait…..we’ve got Justin Bethel, right? Whew, I feel better!

  30. By JTDG on Sep 1, 2017 | Reply

    D,

    The Jets held out for a 2nd and a receiver. Good for Coach Bowles.

    Problem is, the hawks improved an already tough defense.

  31. By D on Sep 1, 2017 | Reply

    John Greco, G- just released from the Browns…go get him and improve the OL

  32. By Coach K on Sep 1, 2017 | Reply

    JTDG

    I hear you loud and clear on cutting Chris Johnson. Yes, he had two fumbles, but to cut him really bothers me if DJ was to get hurt. Who is going to pass block for Carson? Ellington? Williams? Give me a break.

    Cutting CJ2K was a HUGE MISTAKE.

    It could cost the Cardinals games if David goes down.

  33. By Richard S on Sep 1, 2017 | Reply

    Hopefully whichever punter is chosen he’ll be in synch with the field goal kicker as a holder. I think the Big Red had a problem with that early last season. I want to see a solid special teams this season,. It could have put them in the playoffs last year.

  34. By Scott H on Sep 2, 2017 | Reply

    While I won’t necessarily use the word “huge” as an adjective, I DO agree that cutting CJ was a mistake. I don’t get it. IMHO, he was still the guy who offered the most in the event of an injury to David Johnson. With CJ gone, there is virtually no veteran presence in this RB room, and I don’t like that. But, hey, what do I know? Apparently, not much.

    I WOULD use the word “huge” to describe other things ( = mistakes ) that were either done or not done along the way, but….no point in continuing to beat the horse that, if not dead, is in mortal danger of expiring.

  35. By Darren Urban on Sep 2, 2017 | Reply

    Scott H —

    RE: DJ injury

    See, that’s where the Cardinals disagree (and I would too.) Ellington is by far the superior receiver. The Cardinals could keep a semblance of their offense built for David Johnson with Ellington with the passing game. You couldn’t do that with CJ2K.

  36. By Scott H on Sep 3, 2017 | Reply

    Darren –

    OK, I appreciate that. But doesn’t it all come down to which “trade-offs” you choose to make most important? First, I thought CJ was more than fine catching passes out of the backfield. I didn’t think we suffered from that when we had to rely on CJ.

    But I would say that CJ seems more durable ( even WITH his recent injuries ) and I believe he was much better at blocking / blitz pickup. The importance of that certainly can’t be over-looked.

  37. By clssylssy on Sep 4, 2017 | Reply

    Scott…
    I couldn’t agree with you more about Chris Johnson and will add that without CJ, (or Stump Mitchell) we no longer have a veteran/mentor or anchor for our RB room I think the loss of this kind of veteran leadership on defense last year cost us the small amount it would have taken to retain Freeney, and this will play out the same on offense this year. Even David Johnson, credited Chris with teaching a lot of what he knows about routes and Chris was definitely one of our best run blockers (by BA’s pwn admission) which I think is going to be sorely missed. In recent years, I have not been that impressed with Ellington’s “superiority” at catching the ball, but if you recall, he was BA’s big hope for our run game at one time, and as we have seen BA tends to hang on to favorites like Amos, even when doing so may be a mistake.
    This team doesn’t much impress me so far as it looks pretty much like what we were left with at the end of the season without upgrades, except for maybe the addition of Momah. Larry is still about the only receiver we have who can be counted on to make catches, John Browns health is improved but sickle cell is exacerbated by stenuous physical activity and dehydration, so don’t look for him to last the entire season.
    While other teams have only gotten stronger in the off season through smart trading and aggressive pursuit of acquiring talent, the Cards have done virtually nothing of note, except maybe on Special Teams.
    Our showing at in Denver was disgraceful but especially bothersome b/c it was so reminescent of the way we started our season last year, the mental toughness that is apparently lacking to go out and win irregardless of whether it’s the preseason or first regular or last game. We had a talented roster last season, and I have to wonder what the difference would have been had we had Carroll, Reid, Harbaugh, Shanahan etc? As we tell our kids, we teach by example and winning starts at the top with leadership.
    It’s been a rough weekend and we can only hope the roster is still fluid and there will be changes!

  38. By Scott H on Sep 5, 2017 | Reply

    clssy –

    Again, what do I know? No, I don’t like the thought of a RB room that lacks any veteran guidance. And given that ( IMHO, anyway ) CJ and Ellington are basically the same player at this point, anyway…..I would have felt better with CJ.

    Hey, if all goes as we hope and David Johnson is a healthy workhorse all season for us, it won’t matter much who is behind him. We’ll be fine.

    But if DJ goes down and we have to count on someone for a feature back role? No, I’m not thrilled about counting on Ellington for that. It has never worked before.

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