Stuff to chew on

Posted by Darren Urban on May 7, 2010 – 9:56 am

Most of the coaches are off, and most of the players are scarce for a long weekend, so not a whole lot going on.

But that doesn’t mean there is nothing to talk about.

— Perhaps the most stunning news of the day when it comes to this team. According to Darren Rovell, Bodog has released odds on where jettisoned quarterback JaMarcus Russell will land now that the Raiders dumped him. Bodog’s most likely landing spot, at 3-to-1 odds? The Cardinals. To which I say, what?!?!? If the Cardinals aren’t going to chase Marc Bulger, who makes so much more sense considering the circumstances, why the heck would they take a flyer on the overweight, massively underachieving, unmotivated-because-of-all-his-money Russell?

Bodog has Russell being a 10-to-1 shot to go to the CFL. Right now, I think I’d swap the Cards and the CFL’s odds (although the Cards’ odds should be a much longer shot, really. Some NFL team will give Russell a chance. But not the Cards).

–If you haven’t seen it, I’d like to think the story I posted yesterday about coming back from ACL tears is pretty interesting. The stories of tight end Stephen Spach and new draftee O’Brien Schofield are chronicled. When you listen to head athletic trainer Tom Reed, it’s easy to understand why the Cards were willing to take a chance on Schofield and his upside. One of the most telling parts was Schofield’s outlook on 2010: “They would like for me to play this year but they don’t need me to play this year,” he said. “That is what I am considering.” You hear that (and, looking at the Cards’ linebacker situation, see the truth in it) and it’s not hard to envision Schofield taking that “redshirt” year on PUP/IR when it’s all said and done. We’ll see though.

— Bill Williamson, who covers the AFC West for, posted the first round of the 2007 draft just for comparison’s sake after Russell was cut. For the Cards, that was the infamous Levi Brown-before-Adrian Peterson draft, and probably will remain that way. But, just for a second, take a look at the first round without AP in mind. The Cards ended up with Brown, who has been relatively solid and with whom the coaches are happy (Yes, many will argue, but those are the internal facts). Considering many of the picks in the first round, especially the top 10, the Cards actually are one of the teams that came out OK.

Gaines Adams? LaRon Landry? Jamaal Anderson? Ted Ginn? Adam Carriker?

Yes, there are superstars. Peterson. Patrick Willis. Darrelle Revis. But the Cards are in better shape than most. Especially the Raiders.

— The Cardinals are apparently going to be signing undrafted South Dakota State linebacker Chris Johnson, according to Johnson in this Iowa newspaper story.

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44 Responses to “Stuff to chew on”

  1. By Joe-B on May 7, 2010 | Reply

    The ESPN AFC West blogger also said JaMarcus could wind up here. I think they just want to see the Cardinals fail again.

  2. By RodgersCromartie on May 7, 2010 | Reply

    Why are we even talking about Russel? What does he have anything to do with? Especially with the Cardinals?

  3. By darrenurban on May 7, 2010 | Reply

    Rodgers —

    Well, if an oddsmaker is saying the Cards are the best bet to sign him, I figure it’s something to talk about.

  4. By Don't Take Losses on May 7, 2010 | Reply

    Darren: Your article on ACLs, Spach and O’Brien was a fine piece of writing. Having had surgery on both knees (35 years apart), it hit the mark on both modern and earlier rehab and surgery techiques.

    Russell, he may figure it out in 10 years. Or maybe he has “it” figured out (the way to the bank).

  5. By Chris B on May 7, 2010 | Reply

    Bucky Brooks from had an article a few weeks ago where he “re-did” the 2007 draft. He had The Cards picking Revis and STEVE BREASTON going like 26 over all. I thought that was interesting. Can’t wait til Camp and Flagstaff again.

    When do the OTA start? and what sort of crowd do you expect to see at this years camp?
    BTW- I went back and looked at some of the articles you had last year (the SB run) and applaud you for working harder to find more things to write about. I just noticed last year there were not that many articles, by comparison to this year, etc. Thanks for your work!

  6. By darrenurban on May 7, 2010 | Reply

    Chris B —

    Well, we have an issue with the archive system since switching to the new site in September of last year. Trust me, I wrote a lot more — the articles just aren’t back on the site (yet).

    As for the crowd at camp in Flagstaff, I’d expect a good group. Interesting will be if it is as large as last year coming off the Super Bowl.

    OTAs start May 18 (they are closed to the public.)

  7. By Roy on May 7, 2010 | Reply

    I am still upset that we passed on AP. I know we had James and that we wanted a “road grater” at tackle but that should be known as the biggest draft mistake in our recent history.

    Brown is OK, and Oakland did worse, but we should have had the best running back in football.

  8. By cody on May 7, 2010 | Reply

    i think with a good coach like Whisenhunt motivating him, Jamarcus might just reach his potential. i say we sign him for cheap, and if hes not on the right track by the 53 man roster deadline, we can cut him. we should find our frachise qb out of 2 top 10 picks, a former pro bowler, and a developmental qb all under 20.

  9. By Steve on May 7, 2010 | Reply

    Darren- is Chris Johnson a rush linebacker or an inside backer? I like what the Eagles did in the draft loading up on pass rushers and I feel the Cards should follow suit.

  10. By darrenurban on May 7, 2010 | Reply

    Steve —

    He looks like an inside guy.

  11. By johnnybluenose on May 7, 2010 | Reply

    there is no way russell ends up with the cardinals. as for the CFL, he doesn’t go there either. the CFL has produced a few good qbs who have gone on to successful NFL careers, guys like theissman, moon and flutie come to mind but failed NFLers, for example like tim couch and lawrence phillips weren’t good enough to play in canada. if russell goes north it’s to buffalo not to canada.

  12. By John on May 7, 2010 | Reply

    I’ll Start by saying I’m not a fan of Russell now or when he was at LSU.

    But,Whiz is known as a no-nonsense coach who can work with QB’s who have less than desired work ethics. Look at Matt, he was known as a Hollywood guy who didnt work at now he is busting his tail off.(one of the reasons the national media doesnt believe in Matt is his Hollywood-lazy persona even though I believe he is working hard)

    There are 2 things that you cant deny. 1. Whiz has an ability to motivate players. Russell has a ton of talent. Maybe the odds makers see a match made in Heaven?

    So, can you get Rusell for next to nothing is the first question? If yes, why not see if Whiz can turn his career around? The Raiders have been so disfunctional, maybe he just needs a change of scenary?

    Lets face it, our QB situation is questionable. Matt is viewed by national media as a guy who cant lead the team, Anderson had a good year followed by 2 poor years and Skelton is a 5th round guy in a very weak QB draft.This is why every QB from Bulger to Vick gets rumored to come here.

    Besides, Maybe the odds makers were thinking the Cards bring him in to play Left Tackle. 🙂

  13. By Gang6230 on May 7, 2010 | Reply

    That would be a mistake to bring rusell to the cards. The 3qbs we have now r way better than him. Hope he finds a home somewhere else
    we have to see that those critics and skeptics will always find ways to put the cards now but for the las few years the cars has been shutting their mouths big time and they will do it again

  14. By Ringo on May 7, 2010 | Reply

    The Wiz might be able to help this Russell (QB ? ) out. At 280 lbs he might make a good tight end. Sign him cheap and lets see what he is

  15. By SierraVistaNick on May 7, 2010 | Reply

    These resports are proof that I could make an excellent analyst! They do no homework what-so-ever! The most likely spot is to land on a team for their practice squad as a water boy! He will likely wind up in the CFL or maybe even NFL Europe. But I would actually venture to say he will not even play football again sitting on $39M and his history of no work ethic. He won;t be in a hurry to join a team anytime soon, just as no team will pick him up anytime soon.

    The Cardinals, really? When we have very solid starter/backups. They are all, imo, capable of starting.

  16. By darrenurban on May 7, 2010 | Reply

    SierraVista —

    Before you send in your audition tape, you may want to make a note that NFL Europe has been gone for a few years.

  17. By Sittin in the Sun at Sun Devil Stadium on May 7, 2010 | Reply


    Any word on where Gandy or Okeafor will end up?

  18. By darrenurban on May 7, 2010 | Reply

    Sittin —

    None. It’ll be interesting to see what happens with them.

  19. By bobo on May 7, 2010 | Reply

    I feel comfortable with our depth at the linebacker position. I can see that the up coming years are going to show how well WHIZ can pick guys through FA and the draft. The big name players on this team were Green’s guys. Also I just dont understand why WHIZ didnt make a grab for Antonio Cromartie? We have no depth there and all they were asking for him was a third round pick. But i will never doubt the whiz…. He brought in a GRADE A staff with him and they work with the players daily and see think us fans dont. But while i was at fan fest i looked out and i understand that this event is all for show, But i see Mike Adams lined up against Fitz. Dont get me wrong i like adams… he has great a heart, he loved hitting people, But fitz just ran right through adams like he was not there. I am just hoping we found a GEM in Justin miller or something because we are relying on you Defense!!!! i no the leaders of our d wont allow us 2 get any worse. I am keeping my fingers crossed till the atlanta game and hoping our CBs dont get torched.

  20. By Tyler on May 7, 2010 | Reply

    Man I love reading your posts daily but I really wish you would spell check! Once and a while something sliding by is one thing but there’s always at least one per post unless it’s only a sentence or two. Not trying to bust you balls just think it looks really unprofessional and doesn’t exhibit our teams professionalism. Thanks and GO CARDS!!!

  21. By cody on May 7, 2010 | Reply

    SierraVistaNick- just because he hasent produced in 3 years doesnt mean no team will pick him up. you see a lazy, unmotivated qb. coaches see a qb they can fix who has an amazingly strong arm and still in his early 20s. and i love how you talked about analysts not doing research, but then mention russell might go to nfl europe, when nfl europe has been gone for some time now.

  22. By B-rad on May 7, 2010 | Reply

    Damn Tyler, ever here of a comma?

    Not trying to bust YOU balls!!!

  23. By BigRedFan on May 7, 2010 | Reply

    Tyler- don’t point out one man’s writing flaws when you have no sense of it whatsoever. Regards, Red

  24. By BigRedFan on May 7, 2010 | Reply


    Hear. Not here.

  25. By Eazy E on May 7, 2010 | Reply

    I’ll admit, i’ve liked jamarcus since his days at lsu. The raiders are a horrible franchise. They picked Darrius Heyward-Bey over Michael Crabtree, stupid! They have no wrs and definitely not a #1 wr. Darren McFadden has been injured alot and has not lived up to the #4 overall pick in 08. Zach Miller at te is their best passing option out of arizona state which aint bad, but you really don’t want your te to be your best ‘receiver’. Offensive line is horrible too. All in all, their supporting cast is trash. It seems like every highlight you see of jamarcus, he’s running for his life. Whiz can help jamarcus big-time. Matt didnt have a work-ethic either and it took matt forever to learn that he has to work. Jamarcus’s talent is immense. Lott can work on his weight and whiz can help him get to his potential along with our great qbs coach chris miller. We should take a flyer on him, its a low risk high reward move because if everything out of oakland is true(bad work-ethic, sleeping in meetings, etc.), then we could just cut him. On the other hand, if whiz, lott, and chris miller can get him to reach his great potential, you got a franchise qb on your team. The reason why jamarcus would be better for the cards than bulger because jamarcus is 24 and bulger is 33 and jamarcus has an upside to him whereas, bulger doesn’t. Bulger’s a pretty good qb, when the supporting cast is right, but jamarcus has a huge upside to him and i think whiz and staff would get it out of him. He also would come cheap because he’s not getting that much money right away obviously.

  26. By Mikeflorio on May 7, 2010 | Reply

    Same oddsmakers that thought we wouldnt go to the superbowl

  27. By Big D on May 7, 2010 | Reply

    although we did pass on peterson how does he run with a crappy line?I like that we got levi and if wells can become a monster I think we did good

  28. By TucsonTim on May 7, 2010 | Reply

    Can’t wait for the national media to pick up on the Russell to the Cards story. Since eveyone has us losing the division to SF, I guess they think coach Whiz is desperate and is just going to try a little of this and a little of that. So what the heck put jamarcus out there. What a leader, what a role model, what an insult to Leinart, Anderson and the rest of the organization.

    Maybe it’s a good thing the Cards really don’t get any respect. They seem to play better with the extra motivation.

  29. By AndyStandsUp on May 7, 2010 | Reply

    ACL injuries are fairly common nowadays and I expect Schofield to be 100% before seasons end. Remember Willis MaGahee’s terrible blown knee and he was still drafted in the first round and has been productive.
    As far as Russell coming to the Cards; only if he was extremely inexpensive and willing to be third string. In other words, ain’t going to happen. His agent will find him a team that will give him BOTH money and opportunity.

  30. By AndyStandsUp on May 7, 2010 | Reply

    One more thing for “Tyler”.
    You misspelled your name, it’s “OCD”
    And, yes I realize the letters are not in alphabetical order.

  31. By B-rad on May 7, 2010 | Reply

    Alright BigRed, you got me. I guess I should proof read before sending. I just thought it was crappy of Tyler and now of you.

  32. By Kent on May 7, 2010 | Reply


    Just wondering when we can expect the next edition of Cardinals Underground to hit the website?

  33. By darrenurban on May 8, 2010 | Reply

    Kent —

    Good question. We will try and do an OTA edition.

  34. By Ctownbeatdown on May 8, 2010 | Reply

    I don’t understand what steve asked. Is chris johnson a pass rusher? Are you talking about Daryl Washington?

  35. By darrenurban on May 8, 2010 | Reply

    Ctown —

    I assume he was talking about Johnson. In either case, it looks like both will be used inside.

  36. By Chuck G. on May 8, 2010 | Reply

    We needed an offensive lineman in Levi Brown in 2007. Adrian Peterson’s production dropped off quite a bit in second half of last season. We held him to 19 yrds. Watched him fumble 3 times while losing two of them one game last year. He has serious fumbling issues. Think we have a pretty good back in Beanie Wells while still having a productive Levi Brown on our team.

  37. By SierraVistaNick on May 8, 2010 | Reply

    I was wondering how much flack I would hear about NFL Europe! It was part of the audition ya see… to show that I can’t have all the facts. Hahahaha

  38. By TBru on May 8, 2010 | Reply

    random question,

    Do the Cardinals sell tickets to their away games? I am thinking about going to the Atlanta, and/or the Carolina games. I was wondering if the visiting team gets an allotment of tickets to sell or if I have to go through the home team. I would love to sit with other Cards fans and even better if the Cards can generate some of the revenue from my tix.

  39. By darrenurban on May 8, 2010 | Reply

    Tbru —

    Generally, you need to go through the home team.

  40. By johnnybluenose on May 9, 2010 | Reply

    TBru, the cardinals always get tickets for away games but they may only be available to season ticket holders and they are only made available a few days before the game. but you can always get tickets to just about anything if you want them badly enough.

  41. By TBru on May 9, 2010 | Reply

    a running back is only as good as the line in front of him, Peterson behind a bad line could have been a colossal fail. The birds have built a good O line and Beantower has a fighting chance.

  42. By Harold Rogers on May 9, 2010 | Reply

    Perhaps they are trying to aquire the worst QBs they can find- after Derrick ‘
    Anderson I think Russell could be the only one worse- although it would be close- Im surprised they let Delhomme slip away.

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