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Reports: Leinart trades explored

Posted by Darren Urban on September 1, 2010 – 9:05 am

In news broken by Fox Sports’ Jay Glazer and now being picked up by ESPN, the Cardinals have looked into trading quarterback Matt Leinart. Not surprising, given the events of the past week or so. Not surprising that Glazer knows about it, since he hooked up with Leinart for MMA training and teams can ask him his opinion of Leinart’s work ethic. And Glazer can certainly talk to Leinart, and the reporter said on the “Dan Patrick Show” this morning Leinart wants to be able to start.

That doesn’t look like it’s going to happen in Arizona, where Derek Anderson has apparently all but locked up the job. Moving a veteran — either Anderson or Leinart — was always a possibility too once the Cards decided they liked both their rookie quarterbacks (John Skelton and Max Hall) and had some trepidation about exposing either to waivers to try and get them on the practice squad. If Leinart was indeed moved, Hall and Skelton would probably stay, although it would mean making a rookie the backup.

Former Bucs coach and current ESPN announcer Jon Gruden was on a conference call this morning and assessed Leinart thusly: “He hasn’t taken advantage of his opportunities. He’s clearly been average. He hasn’t been a guy who’s really taken control and choked the opportunity that’s been given to him, and obviously there’s something missing there.”

One other thing I thought was interesting from Glazer’s interview on Patrick’s show. Glazer said if he were Leinart, he’d want to go someplace like New Orleans, where obviously he wouldn’t start but could learn for a year behind Drew Brees and coach Sean Payton. When Patrick pointed out Leinart had already done that with Kurt Warner, Glazer interjected, “The relationship wasn’t there.”

Hmmm.

— P.S. This is apropos of nothing, but as long as I have you, the Cards finally have a new online team shop. Go to http://www.AZONEteamstore.com to find all Cards’ merchandise in one easy place (Did that sound too much like a commercial?)


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225 Responses to “Reports: Leinart trades explored”

  1. By carlo7000 on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    darren

    honestly in think is too late to get a draft pick from him…aevrybody knows he will be cut this week so i dont see any team making a no sense move

  2. By Rodney on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    Yes it did but appropriate for the “As the QB Churns” soap opera. I suppose that the “relationship wasn’t there”, we won’t be expecting any candid photos of Matt and Kurt together before Kurt takes the stage for his first dance?

  3. By Joe-B on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    You know what I don’t get, they made it look like Leinart was the guy, the team trusted him, and that Whiz was happy with what Leinart was doing. Then, after two Preseason games where Coach admitted that the line wasn’t doing him any favors, he benches Matt for Anderson. I’m starting to think that Matt was right about this being something beyond the football field…

    They should have at least given him some time in the regular season to show what he can do. And I think Leinart could be a good starter who plays kind of like Kyle Orton does, but then I look at Derek Anderson and I see a taller Rex Grossman….

  4. By Brad ONeill on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    on ktar they have a story that implies the locker room and larry fitzgerald has lost confidence in lienart. but the print is somewhat deceptive since they are going purely off of speculation on the espn bs report not an actual quote by fitz. That kind of reporting is just crap in my opinion.

    i think it is amazing that whiz is willing to burn a number one draft pick without letting him play a full half in pre season.

  5. By mike b on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    Darren-
    this suprises me, I mean Lienart did have his shot this year he just thought he had it locked and wasn’t too good off the field that i think drove the final nail in the coffin. Your thoughts on this?

  6. By Darren Urban on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    Mike B –

    Honestly, I am thought-ed out.

  7. By Don't Take Losses on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    Kurt made that clear when he wouldn’t endorse ML after he left.

    But Dang, hard to understand. Matt has outplayed DA. And Whiz has harped on no turnovers, protect the ball…Matt has done it and gets shipped out. I trust Whiz but this is hard to understand even with the weak arm, bong etc bs. Sure smacks of Fitz getting in Whiz’ ear. Whiz explanation in ESPN interview was tortured. Hard not to parse his words. My take is Whiz believes Matt doesn’t have enough guts but he can’t say it it per trade value. I think Matt does, but not my call.

    Bottomline: In Whiz We Trust…but its not unconditional love 😉

    Ok, back to the stock market: http://www.investortradestocks.com/

  8. By Valleyexpat on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    I wish Matt well whatever the outcome. Its obvious to me that Whiz never trusted him. If we look back even further he has a history of not working well with qb’s including Kurt’s time here which was not publicized too much (even Kurt yesterday agreed that Matt is getting a raw deal here), and his time in Pittsburg with Big Ben, which may ultimately have been one of the deciding factors in him not getting that gig.

    Looks to me that the management wanted Matt here and Whiz didn’t and Matt made it easier for W

  9. By BluePitt on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    It is all about $$$$$$$, Bidwell football at its best! If you want character under center and a leader I can name off 1,000 QB’s They all suck and have no skills but have all of Wiz’s INTANGIBLES’! If you can play you can play, Do you think Saford had the players respect in the beginning? or Ryan for ATL? or any rook QB? And I think this is about Fitz geting dumped on his head! Mark my words Fitz will do nada this year Q is not here to take the pressure or the top CB from him he is done! hahaha BIDWELL FOOTBALL!!! And in Wiz I don’t trust! He has reaped the rewards of Denny’s team building gift. Granted Denny couldn’t coach, but he could build a SB team! Whiz is a Bidwell patsy!!!! Any one with Denny’s roster would have gotten us the DIV titles. HAHA and I don’t even like Linefart! But he is our best chance to be respectable this year!

  10. By Darren Urban on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    BluePitt —

    Exactly how is this about money? It’s priceless when people come in with a nonsensical argument.

  11. By Bill L on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    Leinart Violated the FITZGERALD Rules;

    1. I don’t want to go over the middle
    2. If I go over the middle, don’t throw me the ball
    3. If you do throw me the ball, no one can be within 15 yds of me

    Matt; started for Whiz for 5 games in 2007 until injured….over Warner
    Matt; No.1 b4, during and after training camp
    Matt; 110 QB rating with no INT

    DA; Journeyman beat out by Quinn
    DA; 70 QB rating

    Matt violated the FITZ rules, DA didn’t…..Whiz folds and DA(Fitz) wins….Winning is not everything, Fitz rules are the only thing; Whiz 2010

  12. By Eric Hutchins on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    In Coach we trust. BUT. From a distance I think this is terrible move. Obviously I only see a fraction of what the coaches see etc etc, but I think Leinart was far better. I think the team was behind him. I think he paid his price by sitting behind current and I think he earned a season to prove himself. I think Coach undermined him at every step and it became a question of confidence. I hate to think of going into the season with anderson as our quarterback. My playoff hopes are totally lost. Arg, the cardinals have gained so much ground in the last few years, hate to see it pissed away like this.

  13. By NorthernCard on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    So let’s see, pay a guy to sit behind Kurt and learn for 3 years, groom him to be your starting QB, and then trade him because two weeks before the season starts you decide that a QB that couldn’t stay in front of Brady Quinn is the better option. Seriously!?!?!? All this time and we’re gonna kick Matt to the curb and place the entire season on Derek Anderson’s shoulders?

    It’s almost comical at this point. We went from a HOF QB to a QB that couldn’t keep a starting role in Cleveland. Fantastic!

    Darren, I know a lot of the fans are slightly frustrated (including myself if you haven’t noticed) having witnessed the events of the past few days unfold. Certainly this must be creating some of the same feeling in the locker room amongst the players? Or perhaps all the players feel solidly about DA?

  14. By Darren Urban on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    NorthernCard —

    I haven’t gotten a big sense of uneasiness. I would guess they saw this coming before anyone else. We’re just catching up.

  15. By Todd on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    Derek Anderson is a much better choice even if I did spend way to much on an authentic Leinart jersey. Good thing for the season ticket discount.

  16. By beauchamp on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    whisenhunt is going dangerous with this. Yes, max hall is a gem i’m shocked went undrafted but people hate short qbs. Idk why he’s as tall as montana and brees those 2 guys are similar in game as well, tight spiral and accurate, but he IS a rookie and DA is dangerous with his inaccuracy. Our system could use the deep ball though, but last year we did fine w/ kurt rarely going deep cause th e injury and i could live with more underneath throws than picks. The only reason i hope leinart goes is so i can buy my wife a clearance pink number 7 jersey for cheap. DARREN keep it up buddy if you’re every doing any internships even unpaid ones to make your life easy this veteran has college under his belt and loves his cardinals and web design/journalism just a thought.

  17. By BluePitt on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    Just like all those Cards on the Buck’s SB team, they were not liked,cant play or well…. cost to much!!!!!!!!!! Ok Im done venting sorry!

  18. By John from PA on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    Just thinking out loud here for a minute, but if leinart was the one from the beginning, would they have even bothered looking for someone like Kurt Warner? I know he broke his collar bone, but still..leinarts not that good (not sure if d.a. is much better). To me this has been a long time coming and hopefully it works out in our favor. There’s an established motto in AZ and it’s “In Whiz We Trust”. The man has earned the cards’ fans trust this far..why stop now?

  19. By Darren Urban on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    John from PA —

    Warner was on this team in 2005 and re-signed a three-year deal before Leinart was even drafted.

  20. By BluePitt on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    Sorry Darren Im just mad he didnt even get a shot when all I heard was how good he was doing, and then the line crumbled and he sucked once more. Ill shut up now!!!!

  21. By clssylssy on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    Wow! I’m disappointed but can’t say I’m surprised. Why the organization would want a QB with a rating of 111 ahead of someone w/a rating of 135 has to be personal . It’s been observed by a number of fans that Matt didn’t seem to be Whiz’s “boy”,didn’t get the reps, playing time and general effort of Derek Anderson. So, I wish the best for Leinart and I hope he ends up with a team who appreciates his abilities and is willing to hone his talents. The Saints would be a sweet deal and that organization might fit him better. We’ve lost alot of talent and leadership and I guess we should be thankful Warner didn’t get kicked to the curb when he wasn’t putting in stellor performances a few years ago.

  22. By Neil on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    The offense responds better to Anderson. It bothers me that people say he is a turover machine. Remember Kurt Warner? lol He was a turnover machine (I think one game he threw 7 INTs?) but he still got the job done and no one called him a turnover machine. ML I hope you get traded to a place that could actually use you. sorry our rookies are better than you are LOL jk. Whats your take on this urban?

  23. By Darren Urban on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    Neil —

    Take on the rookies being better than Leinart? Perhaps someday. Not now.

  24. By Coop on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    BluePitt – How is this at all about money? Leinart is going to get his salary this year whether he is with the team or not. The Bidwells have, to some surprisingly, kept their word and increased spending once they were into the stadium they were promised prior to coming to AZ. You have misplaced hate in this. Secondly, difference between Matt and the QBs you mentioned is that they were rookies Matt has been in the league and on the same team as these guys for a number of seasons.

  25. By Darren Urban on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    Coop (and anyone else) —

    It’s Bidwill. Not Bidwell.

  26. By KidStallyn on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    It’s sad to see how this has all transpired. maybe I’m wrong, and I hope that I am…..But I don’t see DA giving us the best opportunity to win. Something in house really went haywire here. We went form “We Do This Together” to “We’ll Do This If the Rest of the Team Likes You”. We’re giving the media every reason to call us the “Same ‘Ol Cardinals. Now, Matt’s got to share just as much of the blame here, but to say that he’s not ready to be a starting QB is ludicrous. His preseason stat’s state otherwise. The back story is that the team doesn’t give their full effort when he’s at the helm. In the military, that’s called mutiny. Sure Matts not the most outspoken guy on the roster. Would I love him to have Nine Os personality. Sure. But just because he’s not out there twittering every other minute, doesn’t mean he can’t lead his team to victory. It’s almost like everyone here is t’d off because he’s not a headcase like Jeff George, screaming at his coaches on the sideline, and throwing bombs every other play.

    Personally, I feel like Matt is exactly what this team needs heading the offense. He adds a dimension of ball control that will give us time consuming drives that keeps our defense off the field, giving them the rest they need to bring it to the QB. We gave up 90 points in two playoff games where QBs extended plays and our secondary was dissected worse then a frog in 8th grade chemistry class.

    I just wish Matt was given a regular season chance to prove himself to the world, that he is a talented NFL QB. Unfortunately, the writing on the wall is as such that I don’t think he’ll ever see UofP stadium grass wearing Red and QB the offense in which he was groomed to lead.

  27. By Valleyexpat on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    I wish Matt well whatever the outcome. Its obvious to me that Whiz never trusted him. If we look back even further he has a history of not working well with qb’s including Kurt’s time here which was not publicized too much (even Kurt yesterday agreed that Matt is getting a raw deal here), and his time in Pittsburg with Big Ben, which may ultimately have been one of the deciding factors in him not getting that gig.

    Looks to me that management wanted Matt here and Whiz didn’t, and, Matt made it easier for Whiz to get his way. If we reversed this and Whiz was treated this way by mgmt, (giving a vote of confidence and then blindsiding him at the last minute), we would all think that mgmt was not playing it straight.

    Either way this will be good motivation for Matt going forward and I’m sure he will have his first against us circled when he will finally get his chance to show all in AZ what he can really do.

  28. By jdcrow59 on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    I guess the Anderson era is upon us. This can work if the running game takes off. If not, then I fear it could be a long season.

  29. By tRiGiDy22 on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    Thank God Leinart is going be gone the 2nd biggest bust in NFL History!!! Thats All he has done in his Career if u want to call holding a CLIPBOARD! an Throwing Signs 2 the field a career! Here is your starting quarterback job!! UFL,ARENA(not a rattler we dont want u)

  30. By firemagoo on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    Ok something besides QB. Washington starting opener? Toler starting and McBride, Adams and Green backing up? Ben Patrick’s status. Back by first game? And any way to get spell check your blog because everyday there is a post where people defend Leinart and spell his name incorrectly.

  31. By Darren Urban on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    firemagoo —

    Soon, there will be talk besides QB. Yes on Washington I think. Yes on Toler. Patrick is taking a little time to return.

  32. By Valleyexpat on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    You know may last post was way too long. so here goes:

    Simply put, COACH HAS ALWAYS WHIZZED ON MATT!

  33. By Justin on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    I mean….Lenon for Dansby (although Lenon is having a good camp) and DA for Warner??? What’s next…Dockett for ????

    Maybe the Bidwells are playing us like politicians???? Just a thought…

  34. By Stuart on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    In my opinion, There is something really fishy going on here!!! Here is my point, Why are you going to pull a guy how has had better stats his entire carrer then the the comp and more training with this football team, and knowledge from studying behind a Hall of Fame QB for the past 3 season’s for a guy who has a carrer passer rating of 59% has more INT’s then TD’s, and has been on this team untill a little into OTA’s. Then I look at last year and read and remember when Whiz wanted to replace Matt’s 2nd string job and give it to Brain St. Pierre. Thank God that never happened. The point is Whiz has showed his dislike for Matt Lienart ever since he took over this orginization as head coach, I do think Whiz (even though he tries to deny it) has a personal problem with Matt, and if thats the case Matt needs to be traded to another team and spend the next 10 years of his carrer kicking the crap out of our team. I’m a Cardinals fan all the way but if this actually happens, as an organization for allowing coach to put personal problems before being a HEAD COACH in the NFL we deserve that. I really hate saying that but it’s the truth. What coach and this franchise is doing to Matt is wrong and shouldn’t be happening because there in no LOGICAL explination for this situation.

  35. By Darren Urban on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    Stuart —

    Leinart has not had better stats than Anderson his entire career. And hanging an argument either way on the stats of Leinart or Anderson for 2008 or 2009 isn’t going to make anyone look good.

    Quick thought too: If Leinart does go elsewhere but doesn’t succeed, what will you say then?

  36. By Neil on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    no not about the rookies. About people calling Anderson a TOM (Turnover Machine). I know Anderson is not Warner but in the same sense Warner was also a TOM at somepoint but still got the job done. Urban do you think that title will ever drop from Andersons name like it did with warner?

  37. By Darren Urban on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    Neil —

    Derek has a long, long, long way to go to rehab his reputation. But it looks like he’s gonna get a shot to do that.

  38. By Frustrated on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    HI Darren!

    People forget how bad Warner was his first year here.

    This problem at quarterback was obvious in the first preseason game this year. All bs aside. Leinart gets three series and is done. Anderson goes in and has looked as bad as anyone ever has. He and Roberts were the worst passing combo that I ever remember and I have been a Card fan since 1960. Yet he was allowed to play long enough for “something positive to happen”.

    Seems pretty lopsided to me?

    Would you have expected your starting qb to be treated as such?

  39. By Darren Urban on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    Frustrated —

    I think that’s hyperbole to say Anderson has “looked as bad as anyone ever has.” Simply not true.

    The argument about treating Leinart this way will be and has been debated on and on. At this point, it is what it is. (Thanks Emmitt!)

  40. By John M on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    I think people are completely forgetting the fact that Whisenhunt owns the “pulse” of the team. There are 53 guys that will be on the Cardinlas final roster. If Whisenhunt feels the other 52 players would rather go to war under DA over Matt, then there is your decision. The cuppord isn’t bare in Arizona, not by a long shot. This isn’t a Seattle Seahawk situation, where the talent on that team took a nosedive from it’s glory days.

    QB ratings, protecting the ball don’t really mean anything if the rest of the team would be more comfortable with DA under center, and that is what I think this is all boiling down to.

  41. By AZrocks on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    Matt has had ample opportunity to play and become a starter and once again he has shown he is not the qb that we thought he was coming in so drop him and us da at least he can get the ball deep to fitzgerald.

  42. By disappointed_card on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    Very disappointed at the way this was done. Looks like Whiz ruined Matt. He should have cut last year, instead of destroying a man. On the heels of political extremism that is going in AZ

  43. By Darren Urban on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    Disappointed —

    Hilarious that a quarterback decision is being compared to the immigration debate.

  44. By tRiGiDy22 on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    Leinart was cancer that needed too be dealt with!!! Thank god we can cut the tube an move on!!

  45. By TMAS on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    I think this was a smart move. The 2 rookies are doing better than anyone expected so why lose them to keep a guy who 5 yrs in still doesn’t totally grasp the system. And in DA defense who did he have to throw to on the Browns. I think this was a great move and Whiz does deserve our trust. He took a team that was nobody to the SB.

  46. By Dangerlady on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    It’s about time Jamarcus Leinart gets cut!
    Heard the Raiders may want him…Didn’t they learn their lesson already with their worthless quarterback the past couple seasons. Jamarcus Leinart is the perfect name!!

  47. By Coop on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    Darren – thanks for the heads up on the Bidwill spelling.

    Secondly, to answer your question, “Quick thought too: If Leinart does go elsewhere but doesn’t succeed, what will you say then?”

    I think it will depend on who is answering the question, but I’m sure it will be one of 2 responses, 1) vindicates Whis or 2) it was Whis’ fault for failing to develop him or for psychological scars.

  48. By Nick Pepe on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    I am only surprised by the people praising Matt. You can’t look scared and lead a team. He lacked confidence in himself and it showed. He had the chance to shine and take over the team and failed to do it. Again. Why now do you not trust the best coach the Cards have had since Air Coryell? Puzzeling. We have one of the best coaches in the league and we should all be thankful. Looking forward to you all eating crow in about a month.

  49. By mike b on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    I think (if he does indeed get traded for picks) he may go to the jets they seem to be unhappy with him but im not sure thats true, he can also go to places like New Orleans, chicago, browns, or even cheifs. all have qbs that aren’t getting it done.
    darren-
    Do you know of any possible teams that I have not mentioned or do you think that few teams are interested in him?

  50. By Darren Urban on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    Mike B —

    I do not.

  51. By Hector V. on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    I like coach, but this is a bad move, if you never intended as Matt being the starter, why keep him this long. Matt was benched in favor of Kurt because of int. this year none, benched. Coach only likes gun slingers, and if int’s come from a gun slinger thats fine. Coach has to come clean and state the truth instead of his regular no turn over policy about benching players.

  52. By Melissa on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    The Cardinals are making a huge mistake and I think that it is going to end up bitting Coach Whiz in the a**. It is a shame because I don’t want to see the Cards go back to a team that never makes it to the Super Bowl.

    If someone would give him a chance Matt would be a good quarterback, I hope where ever he goes that team makes it the superbowl with him leading the team. The Cards have screwed him over for the last 5 years.

    I really liked Kurt Warner but he threw a lot of interspections, one that cost them the Super Bowl.

  53. By bill on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    Well they brought DA in to push ML….and Matt just never showed heart and drive like Andersen has….also I do believe Matt was a rookie back up….so I trust coach and I love both rookie qbs

  54. By tRiGiDy22 on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    Leave Dollar Dollar Bil alone!!! GO BIGRED!! Lets worry about INDIANS an are final preseason game time to get it right for the season!! An the BLACKOUT!!!!

  55. By jason on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    This whole situation could’ve been avoided if whiz would’ve just stated from the beginning that it was an open competition and given both players equal opportunities. This would have taken care of all the confusion from the fans and the miscommunication from his own players. If this is about the players not trusting Matt…then shame on them. You’re professionals not fickle high school girls man up and play hard regardless of who the qb is.

  56. By Dre on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    I am really annoyed with The Arizona Cardinal right now. It’s not that I think Matt Leinart is the greatest and he will lead us to the superbowl this year. I do think the guy is good enough to win the NFC west division and with the eaziest schedule in the league, we should have a pretty good record at the end of the season.

    Let look at the forty-niners and the Jet who don’t have a great QB neither but are sticking to what they have. They are winning game with their defense and moving the ball with the run game…they are not asking their QBs to do it all.

    Whisenhunt has been here with Matt Leinart for 3 years, he knew what he had at QB. So why trades talks now…why not at the end of last season after Kurt retired. Why did he pass on all the free agent QBs: McNabb, Jason Campbell and Charlie Whitehurst. There’s no coming back from what is going on with the cardinals.

  57. By 98CardsFan on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    Wow. Not only has Whiz shown what he is all about, but may have just turned my devotion to the team south. All the agendas going on over the past few years have become clear to me. I used to ignore it, but no more. I never thought I’d be happy to see a Cardinal player fail, but DA as long as you’re here…

  58. By clssylssy on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    Thank you Kid. Once again, the voice of an intelligent and knowledgable fan! It will be interesting to see where Fitz ends up when his contract with the Cards is up in another year. I don’t see him retiring with us, especially if this season w/Anderson is a bust. A number of others will also be looking for new contracts so this entire tacky little QB scenario could have far reaching effects.

  59. By Ron on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    clssylssy-

    QB rating isn’t everything. If you’re going strictly based on that, then why not just give Skelton the starting spot?
    The way I see it, Whiz started Anderson to motivate Leinart. Whiz is about competition. Anderson did get more than 2 times the amount of reps that Leinart did, so don’t forget about that either.
    Leinart is lucky to even have the 1 TD he did get this preseason, thanks to Breaston’s amazing talent.

    All in all, I see it as a smart move to get rid of Leinart. We have 2 really talented arms in both Skelton and Hall, and I think that with the coaching staff of this organization they will blossom into awesome players.

    Darren-

    Great job, as always. Nice plug at the end! HAHA!

  60. By Chris on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    Darren, what teams can you think of that need a QB? Buffalo is probably the most logical choice, but other interested teams may be Seattle, Jacksonville, TB, Cleveland. However Matt will probably get released, I wouldn’t think any of these teams are desperate enough to trade for a QB that will get cut by Sunday, My guess is teams would probably take their chances on waiver’s. Your opinion? Also how is that second round pick from last year doing?

  61. By Darren Urban on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    Chris —

    I think teams might wait on Leinart.

    As for LB Cody Brown, I think everyone was expecting a little bit more at this point.

  62. By Stuart on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    Well I would have to say “That Matt wasn’t an NFL QB” but Matt hasn’t done anything to prove he’s not an NFL QB, Whiz and the orginization for reasons unknown besides personal refuses to let Matt even have a real shot to prove himself. I believe in Matt as a QB, and I love the AZ Cardinals alway’s have alway’s will, but it doesn’t change any fact that this situation has deeper reason’s besides just the huddle.

    Oh and on another note I was taking a shot in the dark at the stats between Matt Lienart and Derrick Anderson in thier carrers Matt does hold the better overall Passer rating then Derrick. I did my research before that statement. Come on Darren give me a little more credit then that.

  63. By Darren Urban on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    Stuart —

    But Anderson has the Pro Bowl and 10-win season, Leinart does not. Doesn’t that even out things?

    And Leinart hasn’t proven himself one way or the other. You say he hasn’t proven not to be one, but he also hasn’t proven himself to be one.

  64. By Ditship on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    I’m not shedding any tears. I was hoping Leinart would step up and be the man but I’m not shocked that he didn’t. My opinion is that the team doesn’t like the guy. I don’t know if it’s personality or work ethic or what.. but it seems that things just didn’t work like the staff hoped when Warner walked out the door. If your team won’t back you then I don’t see any reason to keep you let alone start you. Guess I’m going to have to take the Warner 13 Post-it off Matt’s football figure and now put on the Anderson 3… Or will it be the Hall 6 or the Skelton 19? Looks like we’re in for a long season.. At least the D looks like it could be really good.

  65. By Sean on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    Darren, heard on 1 FM radio station on air this morning that Matt was traded to the Raiders. They first said the Bills, then changed it to the raiders. Obviously, no one has confirmed this. Any idea whats really going on.

    Also, as a side not about the new Cardinals Store, the Tailgate table with net for $172.00 is outrageous. Just picked that same table up yesterday at Costco for $70.00

  66. By Darren Urban on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    Sean —

    Leinart hasn’t been traded.

    As for the prices, that’s not my department. I just let you know about the site.

  67. By Jeff Gollin on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    So Darren – Whatdo we know and not know? Can we safely assume that the Cards are shopping Leinart? Are we sure the Giants, Oakland Bills are the only 3 teams expressing interest. Do we know what’s considered an acceptable offer? Do we know whether the Cards have a minimum demand below which anything else would be a deal-breaker? Or is this a matter of “dump him at any price?” Finally – assiming we keep the other 3 QB’s on our Final 53, would we consider a trade or FA pickup for someone like Batch or Rosenfeld to provide veteran ballast?

    There’s much more news to be delivered. Help us Darren.

  68. By Darren Urban on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    Jeff —

    You are not going to get much more info that whatever is floating out there. Even when I see reports of an “asking price” I am always leery of the accuracy.

    The Cards don’t want to carry 4 QBs. So getting a veteran means something has to be done with Skelton or Hall.

  69. By Skiptim on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    Well Darren, Leinart didn’t exactly have a whole lot of first team practice last year. Anderson was a starter for a while on that team getting those reps. To me, the circumstances are way different. I’ll of course support Anderson if he is our QB, but I find it a real shame that Leinart didn’t get this year to show us what he can do (assuming that is the case). Yes he was dumping off, but maybe he will get more comfortable taking those shots when he knows the job is his and that he won’t be benched for making a mistake. Chemistry would come with some playing time in the regular season, and it will be too bad if he doesn’t get that chance.

  70. By Skiptim on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    Oh (feel free to merge this with my other comment if that works), most of Leinart’s stats come from his rookie season. For a rookie year, it was pretty decent, which is another reason I was excited to see his production this year as the starter, with those reps, and obviously older than he was in his last real time as the starter (early 2007).

  71. By Cali Mark on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    This is my thought. I honestly like Derek Anderson better as the starter than Lienart. Anderson has a cannon arm and will be able to beat teams deep which he had proven to do in the past. If the coaches can real him in a bit about taking too many chances he will be a good quaterback for the cards.I also think the running game will benefit from a strong armed quaterback being under center because teams will have to play safties deep to protect over the top, because once Anderson hooks up with Ftiz and Breaston on long throws it will help the run game. For some reason, in the past the cards have always had to establish the pass before the run game has been successful. And this has been clearly evident in this preseason.

  72. By Carddan on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    A leader talks long strides in a bold direction. Men follow him on faith. If he leads them to victory he is considered a hero, if they fail he is condemned as a fool and rarely given a second chance.

    Coach Whisenhunt is a leader. The rest is still unwritten.

  73. By Chris on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    We are very lucky to have an insider answering our questions.
    Thank you Darren and keep up the great work

  74. By JK on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    There are a lot of questions around this whole deal. Here is one of my suspicions- What are the chances that Whiz is trying to dump off 1 veteran QB (Leinart) in order to shorten up the depth chart where he can get to his two real prospects?

    For example- If Leinart were to have started the season and done poorly the next logical replacement would be Derek Anderson. Leaving only Max Hall or Skelton after that (whom Whiz really wants to groom for the starting spot). With Leinart still in the mix, Whiz would be missing either Hall or Skelton and whichever one he kept would be 3rd on the depth chart and therefore harder to get into the starting spot.

    Now, with Leinart out of the mix, he gets to keep both Skelton and Hall, and whichever one is better is now only 2nd on the depth chart. Now, Skelton or Hall are only a couple of interceptions thrown by Anderson away from the starting spot.

    It may be a bit too conspiracy theory, but it may not. Am I alone in this suspicion cards fans?

  75. By Jones from IL on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    When one thinks of great quarterbacks like Warner, Manning, Favre, Roger Stabach, Bradshaw, Young, Montana, Unitus etc etc – how would you describe them? How about: Courageous, Agressive, Smart, Confident, Great Leadership, enthusiastic, field general. The word temtative is not on my list, and I think Matt is tentative in his play. I want a warrior for a QB, not a CEO. Matt’s a great guy I’m sure, and I wish him well – but I don’t think he can be described, as one would describe the qualities required to be a great QB

  76. By BluePitt on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    Darren,
    To my understanding Leinart has ton’s of roster bone’s and incentive’s laced in his contract this year, and a pay of 12 or so mill for next year I might be wrong that wouldn’t be unusual.

    Now since I have chilled a bit. Michael B. has done a great job this is true I was reverting back to our farming player days with B.B. and I am sorry for that.

    Darren,
    Do you think when Matt is gone Whiz will come out with the true reason he was let go and by true I do mean TRUE?

    To all who are comparing Warner’s Int’s to D.A.’s
    ARE YOU CRAZY???
    Warner’s skills were honed in the Arena,and in the Arena League you learn to throw accurate, fast and in to tight coverage every play, all the things we loved about Warner.
    Most of Warner’s picks were from tight coverage or a defender jumping the rout ,not just flat out missing a dude by 5 yrd’s.

    D.A. sigh… This guy is so infatuated on haw hard he throws the ball he is erratic at best, over throwing, under throwing and throwing with such velocity it bounces off the receivers chest and in to the waiting hands of defenders! This has happened to him his whole career, and saying that all the WR’s he has had cant catch is just out right foolish, there is such a thing as adding touch to a pass and D.A. has no clue on how to do that, based on what I have seen here in the preseason and from his time with the brown’s.

    I hope I am proved wrong by D.A. but Whiz has lost a ton if not all of my RESPECT in his handling of Matt over this off season, and quite frankly his whole career here in AZ.

    BTW we need a play caller like Todd to help us with D.A.

  77. By Darren Urban on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    BluePitt —

    If you are waiting for some huge underlying thing if and when this ends about this deal, I have a feeling you will be waiting a long time.

  78. By Dave on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    It’s the right thing to do, for both parties. Leinart will never be more than avaerage (if that), and will be known mostly for being a successful colleg QB and Heisman Trophy winner, period.

  79. By BigAl on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    To those disappointed about the possible departure of Leinart, you have to understand the either you have the character of a leader, or you don’t. It can’t be manufactured, transferred, or created. It is taught through a lifetime of positive and negative interaction with people in your life. Leinart clearly hasn’t been influenced in a way that built his character, and don’t fool yourself that it doesn’t matter. Have you ever worked for a characterless manager or boss in your professional life at work? Every employee knows if they can depend on that boss when it starts to hit the fan.
    .
    I too am a Leinart supporter, but if he doesn’t have what it takes, it’s just too late for him to get it. His behavior during difficult stretches of this preseason said it all. The missed post game presser after not moving the team in the first preseason game, and his outburst after the third preseason game. No one wants a drama queen leading them when the real bullets starts!

  80. By kauaicardsfan on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    Hey Darren,
    Here is an interesting scenario for you, Matt gets traded to Seattle for Whitehurst who the Cards wanted in the off season and Matt goes back under Carroll’s wings?
    Interesting cause it works out both ways if Seattle is willing to do that?

  81. By card62 on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    I am a long time Cardinal fan and have had much hate for the way the Bidwill family has ran the team over the years, but I do not blame them for the Leinart situation and think that they have been doing a very very good job with our teams for several years now. I really think the old man really wants to hold up the Lombardi trophy with his son next to him

    Darren please answer my question. If Matt Leinart is so horrible not to even be given the chance to start the first 8 games of the 2010 season and his replacement, Derek Anderson, is the worse starting QB in the entire NFL for the 2009 season or second worse. Why didn’t Coach Whiz and Rod Graves get us a quartback in the offseason? Why Why Why Why

  82. By Darren Urban on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    Card62 —

    Well, you might be assuming facts not in evidence. I am guessing the Cards would not say Anderson is that bad, otherwise they wouldn’t be using him.

  83. By Peter in Canada on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    I don’t think all this stuff about Anderson being beaten out by Quinn is relevant. Cleveland were terrible and they panicked and replaced the QB rather than replace the team. An HOF QB couldn’t win with that lot. Anderson is learning the AZ offence; Leinart had played in it for three years so he should have looked btter than Anderson by a mile. The fact is he didn’t.

    I think those advocating Leinart be given a few regular season games to prove himself are wrong. If the coaches don’t think he can do it he should get no games Making the playoffs is going to be tough and games can’t be thrown away for the sake of giving some guy a chance.

  84. By Stuart on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    Darren,

    All that said yes Derrick does have a Pro Bowl and 10 win season, but Matt hasn’t been givin the chance to show weather or not he could have those things to and maybe more.

    The point is and even you have semi said this previously Matt hasn’t truly been givin his fair chance to blow up or bust. No matter how you look at it something just isn’t right about this entire QB situation.

  85. By OLdude on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    The whole affair smells fishy to me. Credibility and respect have taken a hit and I think my confidence in a good year has too. This kind of drama has got to take a toll on the team and from where I sit, it all could have and should have been avoided. DARREN – Why is Glazer saying the relationship wasn’t there and the “insiders” never mentioned that nor any of the interpersonal factors that are all of a sudden coming to light? If Matt was SO much an underachiever why did W make it sound like the 3rd game starter was “just” a flip-flop of the previous game, implying he was just giving each a look under different scenarios? It’s not like DA beat Matt out scoring or statistically to the point ML should lose the starting job. Obviously there were some off-field issues that came into play and for things to end up like this is mostly on the Coach. Matt should have known better than to go “public” with his frustration but with the inconsistent handling of him I can’t blame him too much. I suppose the story will clarify over the coming weeks as will the wisdom of the decisions.

  86. By Darren Urban on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    OLdude —

    I always thought Kurt and Matt did work well together. That’s what both said at the time. But Glazer talks to Matt so maybe he knows better.

    And unless I was able to hear everything said inside between Matt and Coach, it’s hard to tell what the real story is.

  87. By Stevie on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    Darren, how do you know the Cards don’t want to carry 4 QBs? I have not heard anything definitive on that. My question to Wolf this morning in email was his champoining of Charlie Batch. I think Batch would be a great No 2, but I don’t think the Steelers would want his contract as they are notoriously conservative financially and I don’t think Matt would want to backup Ben Rothlisberger. Any thoughts?

  88. By Darren Urban on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    Stevie —

    I don’t “know” it, but it’s a roster spot they can’t afford to lose.

  89. By Paul on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    Darren,

    People, you really shouldn’t dog DA for not beating out Quinn. Remember, at one point, Warner didn’t beat out Leinart AND Josh McCown. QB’s can be successful in different systems.

    We don’t know what happened behind the scenes, but I have a feeling that Warner got tired quickly of Leinart’s Hollywood attitude. Moreover, just because Leinart showed up to offseason workouts, doesn’t mean he had a good attitude. Also, it doesn’t mean that he was LISTENING to what Warner and Whiz were saying.

    All I know is that I have been to a few games the last couple of years, and when the offense wasn’t on the field, Leinart was never wearing headphones, never communicating with the OC or coach, and genuinly seemed disinterested.

    Darren, maybe you can tell me if I am wrong on this, but those were my observations.

  90. By Darren Urban on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    Paul —

    Just as an FYI, McCown and Leinart were never on the same team.

    I can’t speak to Leinart being disinterested. Whiz has said all along Leinart’s focus has gotten better in terms of prep, and Warner would say the same. That’s what I have to go on.

  91. By Nick Pepe on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    @ Jones from I’ll: my thoughts exactly. He just doesn’t have it. I think everyone shedding tears are USC fans wanting to see their boy shine. Maybe he just didn’t perform because of the cut in pay he had to take coming to the NFL.

  92. By Kris O on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    Darren – love the blog. Wondering about Togafau. Been a fan each time he’s been here. Does he stay this time?

    Ok, on to the Leinart stuff. First, I think we’d see the season play out the same regardless of whether we have ML or DA at QB. My take is that with the emergence of not one, but TWO good rookie quarterbacks (who’d have seen this coming?) maybe the ability to mentor became more of an issue. And I feel that, had Matt taken the benching like a man and not whined about it, maybe he’d be on the better end of this. (Could Whisenhunt have been ANY more transparent about wanting to see how both quarterback responded to various situations?) Face it – he feels entitled, and that’s not what this team is about. I must say, I’m disappointed in his lack of maturity. I’ve stood up for him in many a “Leinart stinks” argument. So back to my original point, Andersen will be a better mentor to Hall and Skelton, and it looks like one of the two could very well be the future face of the franchise. IN WHIS I TRUST.

  93. By Darren Urban on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    Kris O —

    Togafau is on the bubble.

  94. By BluePitt on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    HAHA Ok I was wrong on how much, but I was not the only one who is siting $ for one of the reason’s. Here is the likn to the following quote.http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/08/31/leinart-needs-to-worry-about-being-cut-not-traded/?related=1
    “As a league source explained to us on Monday, Leinart’s current contract isn’t conducive to a trade. He’s due to earn a base salary of $2.485 million in 2010, which is simply too much money for a guy who won’t waltz right in and take over another team’s starting job. More importantly, Leinart’s salary spikes to $7.36 million in 2011.”
    and this doesn’t include roster and other bone’s.

  95. By tom on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    As for the relationship not being there with Warner and Leinart, what is your take on that? I can remember Marc Bulger, and Eli Manning saying Kurt was very good to them even when he was getting demoted, and still trying to help them out. I’d like to know whats up with Leinart then, because something just isn’t adding up.

  96. By Darren Urban on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    Tom —

    Like I said, they always said it was good. So …

  97. By Ken on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    I think people underestimate the potential greatness of Max Hall. Start him now! Who cares? Can he really be any worse that Derek Anderson who was beat out by Brady Quinn? The Jets went deep into the playoffs last year with Mark Sanchez, and Joe Flacco has been successful. Max Hall set all kinds of records at BYU in a pro style offense, so why would he need to be holding a clipboard behind Derek “Interception” Anderson?

  98. By Cool Hand Luke on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    1st round pick, Heisman trophy winning Qb, says I want an explanation.
    Coach says : I have an open door policy (5mins later)…… BAM!
    and it’s called don’t let the door hit you in the @$$ on the way out.

    Disappointed-

    Destroying him would be trading him to the raiders and throwing him in the BLACK HOLE!

  99. By redseafan85 on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    In three preseason games, Leinart is completing 82.6 percent of his passes and has a passer rating of 110.2 with no turnovers.

    Anderson has completed 58.5 percent of his preseason passes with two interceptions and a passer rating of 70.2, which is the lowest of the Cards’ four QBs.

    Those are reports by Jay Glazer of Fox. I have been an Arizona fan for over 15 years and im only 24 and in my opinion getting rid of Leinart would be a disaster. Derek Anderson will not perform, period. Rookies are not ready to start, and although Leinart hasn’t led many scoring drives, he has not had full games to deal with yet. Its PRESEASON!!! He would get comfortable reading opposing defenses after a few drives and I think he will not only be accurate, hell be great!! IF we get rid of Leinart I personally will be upset not only for myself but for the cardinals season. Leinart will shine wherever he goes… WATCH

  100. By Cardsfan50 on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    I am not surprised the team is trying to trade Matt. Look how the fan base is at odds over this, and Whiz doesn’t want a QB controversy going into the season. Trading Matt makes more sense han just releasing him. For pretty obvious reasons.

    I am sad Matt’s situation has come to this. He appears to have been patient and matured some the last few years. Unfortunately, his skills don’t work as well in Whiz power-running scheme. Anderson throws deep enough to keep the defenses honest and allow us a chance to run the ball.

    I am very impressed with how well Rod Graves and Whiz have filled the holes of vets who retired or left. Our defense should even be better in spite of the losses, but it did hurt our depth. I think lots of other teams are going to be surprised byour team this year.

  101. By Dre on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    Last year in preseason Green Bay came here and put a beat down on the our starters. Whisenhunt said that the packers must of schemed us, remember that game y’all? Who brought us back and almost won the game late…Leinart. Who allowed the TENNESSEE TITANS to march down the field to throw a game winning touch down with no time left on the clock….the defense, not Leinart.

    This is a bunch of BULL what Whisenhunt has created. I thought you wanted a QB to not force the ball down field and to not turn the ball over. Matt has matured as a QB and he is still in the wrong…come on mann. Give the guy some time to be a starting QB and get to where he needs to be. Isn’t that what preseason is for to knock the rust off and to get up to game speed.
    Why are they putting all the pressure on one player. The running game is not there and the line isn’t playing as one unit yet. I can imagine the pressure Matt had coming into this year and I understand why he is just trying to be safe with the ball.

    What happened to supporting your players and getting thier backs. Rex Ryan stuck with his rookie QB and is still saying we’re winning the supperbowl. He put a #1 defense on the field and ran the ball. They did the same thing in Tampa and Batimore and won superbowls…so what the problem is WhisenNUT? It is obvious Rex Ryan is a far superior coach then WhisenNUT, maybe thats why he got passed over in Pittsburgh.

  102. By Darren Urban on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    Dre —

    Ryan hasn’t reached a Super Bowl as a head coach. Whiz has. I guarantee if Whiz were on the open market, teams would want to hire him.

  103. By Magee on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    I feel bad for the Cardinals who have dumped money and spent years, waiting for Leinart to play at the pro level the way he did in college. Sometimes these things just don’t work out and it happens to all teams once in a while.

  104. By ChrisZ on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    Coach Whiz and Coach Fitz has spoken!!

  105. By AZCARDS4LIFE on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    All I can say is I am disapointed in Whiz. and the organization for allowing this negative publicity to go on for so long. I am not trading in season tickets over it, but I hope this issue does not bites us in the a@@. I wish Leinart well wherever he goes. I will stand with this team no matter what. Please Cardinals, be vigillant in dealing with these situations in the future.

  106. By TucsonTim on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    “The relationship wasn’t there”

    I was a little miffed that Warner threw Leinart under the bus and wouldn’t endorse him, but now it’s all very clear.

    Warner obviously has a great deal of respect for Whiz (and vice versa). He wasn’t going to say something that would put his coach in a bad position. This has been a long time coming. It will be good for all parties , Leinart can get a fresh start someplace else and the Cards can move forward. Whiz obviously saw something in DA he likes and whatever short comings DA has Whiz must believe they are fixable.
    We’ve got to trust Whiz, he deserves it. Look at what he’s done for this team.

  107. By vegas:seasonticketholder on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    wow all i have to say about this is thanks for the reduced seson ticket price! i know im going to be leaving the nest this year every home game disapointed because d.a. has flown the ball over the receiver and gets picked off! im sorry to say this but evan when we where doing good the last two seasons and we had bad home games the crowd booed! get ready for alot of booing im still going to go and help with the team to protect the nest. i just started getting season tickets the year we went to the superbowl and i have never booed the cardinals evan if they havent been doing great. if its d.a i hope im wrong!!! i hope he does great if not what blown season but i have alot of faith in the rookies when ever they develop by couch whiz standerds, they will be great qb’s!!!

  108. By Ed on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    How many times will have I have to hear about Matt’s QB rating? It didn’t equate to wins or to consistently moving down the field.

  109. By Brad ONeill on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    we need to remember one thing here. matt has not been let go, and matt has not necessarily even lost his starting job. this is all media generated so far. If and when wiz says matt is cut or traded then i will get on the coach for completely burning his guy. It is still possible that the team rallies around matt and he leads them into the post season.

  110. By 4ZERO on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    I feel bamboozled. I have been fooled into thinking Leinart would finally get his shot to lead our team. “We do this together” Hardly. I feel like the marketing department should talk to the coaches next time before they roll out something like this that is now just leaving me bitter. I am very unhappy with how this has played out. I’m pissed actually. I could not wait for the season to start. I went to Flagstaff. I bought in to the positive spin on all the offseason moves. rolle gone, fine. Dansby, cool. Kurt, congrats, enjoy. We have Leinart we will be good…. Boldin…that was tough. But ok, I actually really like our receivers. Speaking of Boldin, here is what he had to say regarding this QB situation. Asked if he was surprised about the recent moves “Honestly no. That’s just because I’ve been there and witnessed the relationship between both Matt and Coach Whisenhunt. So I’m actually not surprised. I don’t really want to speak too much on that because it’s not my problem. If it doesn’t refer to anybody in black and purple, I really could care less.” That just leads me to believe that Matt was right when he spoke about this having to do with more than on field play. I don’t like it. I don’t agree with it and I am not buying it. If Matt is released I am cancelling my season tickets and selling this years. I cancelled once before when we forced Plummer out, and I am feeling the same way regarding this situation. We have been lied to. I would really like an explanation form the Coach.

  111. By RED BIRD 66 on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    Darren,

    The must be a lot more to this story than will ever be public. ML may says some things after he is cut/traded but I doubt Whiz will ever address it. I have never been a ML fan but it is obvious that his time is done here and he has not taken control of the situation when given the chance. Hopefully he stays in the NFC west so we can watch him holf the clipboard for someone else. Go cards.

  112. By Brad ONeill on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    if they bring in michael vick and give him the number 7 will the cardinals sell a vick decal that fits over the lienart. i think this would be the only decent thing to do for jersey buyers.

  113. By RED BIRD 66 on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    Darren,

    There must be a lot more to this story than will ever be public. ML may says some things after he is cut/traded but I doubt Whiz will ever address it. I have never been a ML fan but it is obvious that his time is done here and he has not taken control of the situation when given the chance. Hopefully he stays in the NFC west so we can watch him holf the clipboard for someone else. Go cards.

  114. By Bill L on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    Too Bad for Matt and Too Bad for Cards. We don’t know much about Matt’s ability. One year(2007) the coaches said he was better than Warner. Two years(2008,2009) the coaches said he was not better than Warner. We do know for 2010 training camp, and the stats bear it out, the coaches said he was better than DA. IMO DA will lead no where. Maybe by the second half a rooky(s) will be playing and the Cards can find out where their future lies…..with a rookie or back in the draft. I’ll pass on the first half of the season and wait to see if Hall is somebody…..I don’t have much hope for Skelton, but I’ve been wrong before.

  115. By JohnnyV on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    Darren,

    Any truth to the reports that the Cards and Dockett are working on an extension??? This according to Extra Sports 910.

    Thanks!

  116. By Darren Urban on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    JohnnyV —

    Wouldn’t be surprised.

  117. By Ron D on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    Sorry to hear that Matt didn’t pan out for us, but I excited to see what happens this year with all the changes, especially on defense, rookie QB’s, and of course the young stud from toledo Stephen Williams. This dude is a beast!!!

  118. By joe67 on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    Well now we have done it. As if either qb wouldn’t have had enough pressure, even more than normal qb’s do, now all this, and whoever it is under center, the pressure has now just about tripled. Boy, just what we needed. So thankful we open first two on the road.
    In my 43 years as a card fan, have seen some real good (or bad) soap opera’s develope, (the brothers ownership buyout, terry metcalf, ’77 draft, Coryell, believe me the list is too long) but this is starting to rank right up there. But please folks, this has nothing to do with ownership. They are spending money very wisely in my opinion. Would you rather have Dan Snyder????? (Redshins owner)

  119. By tRiGiDy22 on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    If u think about it no one wants the DA to come into there house!!!! go BIGRED AN DA two int’s were because Andre Roberts thought he was playing Volleyball…

  120. By People these Days on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    Goodness people Coach Whiz knows what he is doing, if he didn’t he would not be a coach. If we were experts we would all be coaches, but were not. Coach wants what is best for his team and if the players and himself don’t think Leinart fits in the QB spot then he should not be there. I think Anderson can have a great year in a new system with ten times better wide recievers in Fitz,Breaston, and Doucet. Maybe even Williams who in the preseason looks like Anderson’s favorite option so far.

  121. By welltonfan on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    sorry ive not been a real big fan of leinart…but i think he really got the shaft…he wasnt given enough of a change at all…whiz just flat doesnt like him…i hope anderson can be as reiable as he thinks or the rookies with have to play…there was no reason to do this to leinart he deserved a chance..i think a big mistake in the long run

  122. By WhatCrap on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    Give the man a freaking chance JESUS!!!!!

  123. By Don't Take Losses on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    Warner needs to return. Just saw pic of his Dancing with Stars partner. Whoa. She is nothing but trouble brewing for his family lifestyle…way too hot. He’s better off under center.

  124. By cardsfan89 on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    Hi Darren,

    2 things… 1) Is there anyway for someone to set up on the forums without some crazy email address ? My work email is @yahoo and my personal ones for 13 years have been @aol and @gmail. I can’t participate !

    Also I sent this to your twitter… how about we tell Kurt his first episode of DWTS will be shot in Glendale at the stadium on Sept 2 ! Ignore that other guy.. I want to hear how our ex-players are doing, especially great men like Warner.

  125. By Darren Urban on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    Cardsfan89 —

    Sorry about the e-mail thing, but we were having too many problems with trolls who would set up free e-mail accounts, get banned and then come right back with a different free account.

  126. By sorry on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    i just wanted to say sorry, sorry to darren for having to reply to all this crap about anderson and matty and whiz. if i were him i would of strangled myself already. we should just let matt start and then when he ruins half the season put in anderson to save the rest. WHY!!! Obviously coach sees a loser in matty and i thought any true fan could planly see it in preseason. Sure matty has great numbers but that wont win games. He has no drive in him – he looks like he’s lost before he even sets foot on the field. Someone even had the balls to say fitz is a wuss.. Im sorry to see all the so called fans being a bunch of cry babies cause of this. So whiz is just winning off greens team, really!!!! Mattys such a great qb because of his numbers. so who lost that bears game then – matt or green ??? All i know is WHIZ is who i thought he was – a WINNER and so is his team.. Hurry and jump ship – you so called fans… Everyone will see by game four – yup game four cause it take that long for everyone to admit coach knows what he was doing the whole time. Oh and to all the 9’ers fans that sneek on here to stir it up – the west is ours!!! If your not first your last losers

  127. By JR (Jim Richardson) on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    Thanks, Darren, for your updates and your blog and for keeping us current on the information. I also am shocked and do not feel Matt was given enough playing time in the preseason, but I am not there everyday and see what the coaches see. We have an excellent coaching staff, so I’m going to go with them.

  128. By Crown'em on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    You got it down BLUEPITT, beside the $$ thing, everything else is about right…

    FRUSTRATED….I’m with you….

    Everybody seems to forget how terrible Warner was in ’06, lost I think the first 4 games for us by fumbling away every snap inside of the two minute warning…that team was a Playoff team and Warner blew that one….Leinart came in as a rookie under Dennis Green for the BENCHED Warner and shined….looked great! That’s all we have to look at really to see if Matt could do it, I think he can. Too bad we’ll never know b/c of Coach Whiz not “liking” someone, ask Boldin how that is, ask Edge how that is, they didn’t get fair deals at the end either, (b/c they’re not a former Pitt Steeler), we can give guys like McFadden a shot (since he’s a former Steeler) and is garbage…to replace a good, consistent CB like Rod Hood who I believe was making only $2.5 mil instead of McFadd $5 mil (Hood was way better too)..WEIRD!! I had Whiz’s back even though he got rid of Boldin, but Now I don’t trust this decision at all…..he had it out for Matt before ’07 even started questioning Matt’s “footwork”, remember that? Whiz has never liked Leinart, never gave him a fair shot….1st Start under coach Whiz @ SF, Leinart wasn’t playing terrible, yet got yanked for Warner to run the No-Huddle (that’s the way to show confidence in your young guy). Ever since then, it’s been a load of crap coming out of his mouth regarding Leinart.

  129. By Former Steeler Fan on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    I think that part of Whiz’s decision to put DA ahead of ML has to do with Whiz’s partiality to the AFC Central division (look at how many ex-Steelers and Browns he has brought in). He saw DA twice a year.

    Also, I agree with JK. Some of it has to do with keeping Hall and Skelton. To do that, one of the vets has to go and why bring in DA for just a look?

  130. By Will on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    Leinart isn’t built for this offense..plain and simple. He has great accuracy on short, underneath throws but he can’t push the ball downfield. Whiz is a former Steeler, between the tackles, play action over the top, touchdown. Leinart’s abiltiies could be utilized well in a more West Coast type offense. We need a QB ( and I’m not saying DA is the answer) who can deliver the ball downfield to Fitz and Breaston, Doucet looks better to me on slants and posession oriented routes. I’m behind Whiz on this, if Leinart isn’t going to be the guy beyond this year, why suffer through watching a transition year when you at least have a chance to compete with DA. How many first downs did Leinart get in the preseason before he was demoted?…exactly. First downs win football, I don’t care how accurate you are if most of your attempts are less than 5 yards deep. Salvage what we can for Leinart and move on from Dennis Green’s obsession with the USC standout and start grooming the diamond in the rough from Fordham…(John Skelton for those who didnt know)

  131. By Chad on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    This move, if it happens, doesn’t make football sense from what we see as fans. So there is obviously something going on behind the scenes whether that is other players lack confidence in Leinart, or the strong arm of DA offers hope, etc. Given what Q said in Baltimore about Coach Whiz and Leinart having a rough relationship and Glazer saying Warner and Leinart’s relationship wasn’t there seems to point to a history of “problems inside the locker room.”

    At least this way we don’t have to deal with a QB controversy all season! Only thing is I’m an Oregon Duck and Anderson is a stinkin’ Oregon State Beaver!

  132. By Secret on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    NOOOOOOOOOOO! leinart will be a good player! believe in him whiz!!!!!!! leinart is not bad! keep him!!!!

  133. By Joe on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    EVERYONE LISTEN CAUSE THIS IS GETTING ON MY NERVES MATT WAS NOT A NUMBER 1 DRAFT PICK he was a first round draft pick. I think gruden said it best I really like matt and i do not trust derek anderson at all but after five years coaches want to see something more than average out of there 1st round pick. I think Matt was right it is something that goes beyond stats here because Matt is a million time more accurate than DA but where is the fire the drive the intangibles that make a qb great Matt i just havnt seen it son. And if i remeber right your gettin 12.5 million next year and that a bit pricey for a back-up qb

  134. By Chris B on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    Here’s my prediction:

    When Matt went to see Coach one of two possible things happened.

    #1) Matt blew up, or cried, or however he expresses his anger. He said, “Let me start or I want out of here!”

    #2) They had a calm talk and Matt expressed his desire to start. Coach said, “I’m not so sure.” and Matt asked to test the market. Matt wants to start and Coach understood. So they are just testing the desire out there right now. Coach wants Matt to succeed and wants to help him even if it means sending him else where.

    Since Matt kept quiet sitting behind Warner, I’m guessing he and the Coach are working together to see what the best scenario is for him to succeed. And they both agreed to see if that means sending him somewhere else. If Matt wasn’t good enough to hold on to, he would have been gone a long time ago. Why not trade him right out of the gate if Whiz didn’t like him? Matt stuck around because Coach Whiz saw enough in him to keep. Graves and Whiz aren’t Al Davis-like.
    I think Matt will start. AZcentral.com had a good article about this. Do you really think Whiz and staff will hand over the keys to a guy who couldn’t keep Brady Quinn at bay? Three TDs to 10 INTs last year for Anderson. Sure it’s not all about stats, but intangibles don’t and won’t compensate for a lack of talent. After all, if it’s not about stats and just about intangibles, why not stick one of those impressive rookies in there and say, “Go learn.” Matt’s stats aren’t terrible. The question will be, can he lead this team? Leaders need to lead before followers will follow.
    It’ll be interesting for sure to watch the game on Thursday.

  135. By joe again on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    We have one of the best coaches in the entire league.

    He did the right thing and gave Matt his fair chance to step up and take control of this team, but he didnt do it. Matt checked down, so his rating looked good and he made a high percentage, but it was all three and outs. Matt didnt take charge, or inspire confidence. He’s not a leader. He acts like an immature kid.

    Whiz has handled this as well as he could, exactly as he should, like any good coach would, and he is making the right decision.

  136. By darrel on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    As a true fan I just wanna say were doomed get ready for a 6-10 season. It sux becuz I wanna se ml get a real shot startin I was really pumped about the season. But now its looking gloomy if the orginzation. Knew they didn’t want him then they shouldn’t. Have lied to all of us true fans .soon as kurt retired the say ml is the starter and if they didn’t have faith in ml then then should of got. Jason cambel or mcnabbb or maybe even vick 2years ago the team is looking shaky. This is going to be. Clevland west with da. And after this season whiz Will no longer Be. A Fan favorite evrbodys going blame him So getiin ready y’all were back to them same ol cardinals. Lol wow. I’m really pissed. Right now and you go head and Crown em ( that other ncf west team) I’m done venting right now. Ill be back to it later

  137. By Tyrelle on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    Does Whiz know that he is losing fans over this move?

  138. By lg on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    when we got anderson i new he would state he was a pro bowler in 07 so that was a no brainer let matt go he never have and never will be what we need

  139. By BluePitt on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    Darren,
    No not some huge underlining story. Just the truth, Like if W just came out and said I don’t like him or I cant work with him. Not some BS crap like the he is just not a good fit for us or some bull wash crap like that. There is a simple reason W has done this. We all know it is not because of play! Wiz has “competition at every position” is bull. Warner was offered the Farv special to stay this year! If it is competition at every position, then that is what it needs to be for all! A-Dub, Dock, every one needs to be worried! And most of all that crappy Lineman Wiz got from NY!

  140. By BigRedFan on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    FACT: Kurt came to AZ as a guy who got kicked out of StL and NY and couldn’t get a starting gig.

    FACT: Kurt came to az with a rep for too many turnovers

    FACT: whiz likes the offense he ran last year with Kurt.

    FACT: if you really really think about it, DA is an awful lot like Kurt in these respects….

    Whiz is right.

  141. By Tinted Face Shield on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    Darren,

    Do you feel like this is the first time since Whisenhunt has been here, that there seems to be no sense of direction? Even through the Boldin deal, it felt like they had a plan with him. For whatever reason, this year there seems to be an evolving changing plan

  142. By Darren Urban on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    Tinted —

    I think everything Whiz does he thinks through. I think part of this is the natural collateral damage of Warner retiring. This is a moot point if Warner stays.

  143. By Maunka on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    Hey Cards!

    I can’t believe we are betting our future on an ex-Cleveland Brown! Stop and think for a moment! Stop and think! I am ticked off!

    All I see in the future is interception, interception, and more interception from Derek Anderson. Granted, he seems to have a bigger arm, but I think it would be wise to let Matt play himself out of job, say in St. Louis. If you can’t be whip St. Louis and with our receiving core, then I think it would be obvious.

    If Matt is let go, then I would prefer Max Hall out of all the play I have seen so far. Not Derek Anderson, PLEASE! NO!

    We Cardinals Fans have been to much for too long to take steps backwards!

  144. By Bill L on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    Matt had to visit Whiz’s office on Monday to find out what was going on……that has to put up at least one red flag……Matt’s not attending meetings?… Whiz and OC and QB coach do not speak english?….Matt IT IS THE INTANGIBLES of LEADERSHIP, the TEAM Does Not Follow You or Look to You…..pretty hard, eh? NO!!!!!!! If you collect all of Whiz’s comments, they make no sense and have no continuity……..We’re going to look at the Bear game film, but that’s not all, this is based on all of training camp……….EXCUSE ME!!!! Wasn’t Matt’s No. 1 status…..based on all of training camp? Whiz is blowing smoke!!!!! But, some people tell atleast some of the truth. Boldin when asked if he was surprised;

    “Honestly no. That’s just because I’ve been there and witnessed the relationship between both Matt and Coach Whisenhunt. So I’m actually not surprised. I don’t really want to speak too much on that because it’s not my problem. If it doesn’t refer to anybody in black and purple, I really could care less.”

  145. By CrazyLady25 on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    Darren–

    Matt broke a CARDINAL sin: he went outside to the media. Once you do that, you have to be gone, because you are a cancer in the locker room.

    My husband played football in H.S. (w/Jimmy Levitt, former Coach of USF), and the coach called a meeting and stressed that “what goes on in here, stays in here; and if I ever find out that it’s gotten out of here, you’re gone, off the team, even if your being looked at by big time college football” (btw, he wasn’t talking about jimmy).

  146. By Darren Urban on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    CrazyLady —

    Believe it or not, I am not sure that ultimately made a difference in all this. It played a part I am sure, but not sure a huge part.

  147. By tRiGiDy22 on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    Darren what was the overall feel for the BuBBLe?? I know Breaston didnt like the Bus ride over I Guess!! But who likes the Bus LOL but the Cards having a Bigred Bubble out in tempe I feel its just class with this Heat. We all will go out in the Heat but no one likes it!!An im all for are team having First Class everything!! Go RED

  148. By Darren Urban on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    Trigidy —

    I think in the end it will benefit the team.

  149. By TMo on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    It is a mistake to trade Leinart. He has not been given a fair chance and there must be something bothering Whiz beyond the field with him.

  150. By Cool Hand Luke on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    Hey! it just goes to show, you can’t keep a good troll down.

  151. By Dylan H on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    Darren
    Why did he keep him that long, learning this system ? And finally firing him ?He disrespects Matt, I mean he should have given him an opportunity to go and play elsewhere earlier if he never expected to make him this team’s QB… He just broke his career… I think Whiz is the best Coach the Cards have had, but it seems a little odd not giving Matt a chance to play much like this was the plan since before preseason. Thoughts?

  152. By Darren Urban on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    Dylan H —

    Honestly, I just feel like I am answering the same question over and over.

  153. By tRiGiDy22 on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    PROTECT THE NEST OF DEATH!! BACK 2 BACK 2 BACK LETS GET THAT 3 LIKE THE NUMBER ON ARE QB CHEST!!! GO BIGRED

  154. By Scott H on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    What I’m taking out of this at this point isn’t about Leinart or where he’s going from here or even what we might get in return. It’s about the thought that our fortunes for this year are now in the hands of Derek Anderson, who I’m not excited about at all. Hey, if he can find whatever he had back in 2007, great. But if he really had it, why hasn’t anyone seen it since 2007??? If he’s the guy, I’ll get behind him, but…let’s not forget that the damn BROWNS didn’t even want this guy anymore and – other than the Cardinals – there didn’t seem to be a lot of interest in him from other teams. There ARE reasons for this…are people really feeling psyched about Derek Anderson???

    To Matt Leinart, I say good luck and I really do hope to see you doing well somewhere in the future. This may very well turn out to be our loss, after all.

  155. By Mike Ellingboe on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    With his contract and reported demands to start, I can’t see a trade being worked out for Leinart. I think anyone who may be interested will wait to see if we release him.

    For those who think our season would be over just because he isn’t here, remember the only first-string we beat in the preseason was the game DA started. We’re not talking about the possibility of releasing Elway – just Leinart. He’s replaceable.

  156. By Scott H on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    Big Red Fan –

    Sorry, but Derek Anderson is a poor comparison to Kurt Warner. let’s look at some other “facts”-

    FACT: Before Warner came to Arizona, Warner had been to 2 Super Bowls, he won one of those, and had been a league MVP.

    FACT: Before he was dumped by the Cleveland Browns, Anderson did none of these things.

    FACT: Before he came to Arizona, Anderson was dumped by the Cleveland Browns who had NO ONE on deck at QB. The Giants had their future in Eli Manning and the Rams had theirs’ in Marc Bulger.

    FACT: If Anderson goes on to become another Kurt Warner, I will owe Big Red Fan one helluva HUGE apology!

  157. By BigRedFan on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    Darren-

    STOP REPLYING!!!

    Go to a park

    See a movie

    Buy a coffee and read a book

    Save your sanity while you can!!!!!!

  158. By DMack on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    WAKE UP MATT!!!!

    You have the arm of a 5-year old. That was the knock on you coming out of college and you have done nothing to improve since. Your passes are soft and float in the air way toooooooo long. This is not college ball, it’s the NFL. Which means “Not For Long” if you can’t figure out that WRs don’t want to risk grabbing at your floating ducks with 225lb safeties teeing off on them at will.

    You can only throw the short slant route. I’m surprised you have not figured it out after 4 years. You continue to get passed over by QBs that have a zip on the ball.

    Recommend you enjoy your rookie multi-million dollar contract and look for a high school team to coach.

  159. By BluePitt on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    @Crown’em- Im telling You!!!! It smells really bad!!
    Funny how Fitz gets dumped on his head and Linefart is crap now!! Well at the very least I know why Fitz was willing to re-do his deal to keep Q, haha Q is the real Deal and Fitz has no one for the opposing team to really worry about, like Q and his punishing play. Who do you worrie about A Player like Q who can kill you over the top, in the middle and on the YAC, or a Fitz who most always gets the Jump ball and goes down? So is it In Coach Witz We Trust? I dont think so!

  160. By Paul on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    Darren,

    I meant that Warner had lost the starting job to both Leinart and McCown, but not in the same season. It was more in response to posts about DA not being able to beat out Quinn, saying that players can be more successful in different systems.

  161. By Darren Urban on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    Paul —

    There is no question players can be successful in different systems. That has been proven time and again in the NFL. We may end up seeing if it works for Leinart.

  162. By darrel on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    I have I watched. All 3 games twice over. Would it be different story if da gets his 4ints “which he should have and beanie wells call gets over turned and matt puts up two tds

  163. By Darren Urban on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    Darrel —

    Lotta “should’ves” in that scenario.

  164. By Dre on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    To all the folks who are for Leinart or against him. To everybody who thinks coach Whisenhunt is wrong or right for all this drama. Here is the real story…the 2010 Arizona Cardinal Schedule. We play Rams(2), Seahawks(2), 49ers(2), broncos, chiefs, raiders, bucs, panthers, falcons, chargers, cowboys, viking and the saints….I see 9 to 11 wins easy with good hard nose defense, running the ball and a good ball manager at Qb.

    If this isn’t the perfect layout for the changing of the guard at QB, establishing a real running game and becoming a top 5 defense this year, I don’t know what is? There is at least 8 games were we can win just with our defense. This is what Matt needed and the Cardinals need to build confidence and move forward as a team…to become a better overall team for years to come.

    Surely Whisenhunt had to understand that we didn’t need to score 30 points per game to be successful. So Why do you yank Matt after two preseason games and panic about the qb position. We are the NFC Division Champs but I can not tell with all this non-sense. We are acting scared, unsure about something and that vibe is coming right from the top. A great coach or boss bring the best out of his players or employees…thats your responsibility Whisenhunt. Maybe Matt need to get the heck outta here because I can see who’s going to get the blame if we don’t make the playoff. Run – Matt – Run

  165. By Darren Urban on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    Dre —

    What makes you think this is a panic move?

  166. By Brad ONeill on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    daren even though you are sick to death of this story. most of arizona just realized all this was going on this morning. write well my brother people are watching. 🙂

  167. By jocards on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    I am getting awfully nervous…I’ve been a fan since the days in St. Louis and these last two seasons have been great but I sense a lack of direction here. Is Leinart really that bad? When he got limited work as a rookie he showed some promise. Is it just that he failed to progress? Darren, any thoughts?

  168. By Darren Urban on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    Jocards —

    Not right now.

  169. By card62 on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    Darren

    Thank you for responding, but I disagree with the logic of these moves.
    If he will not give Leinart a chance he should have traded him in the off season and brought in 2 QBs. I hope we keep Leinart because to bet this season on Derek ANderson and two rookies QBs is a slap in the face to the other 55 players. I was not sold on Leinart and would not have cared if we traded him in the off season and brough in McNabb or Bulger to go along with Anderson, but we did not do that and Coach did not give Leinart a shot. I was looking so forward to this season and now with this and our offensive line I am more nervous about our season today then at any other point earlier in the year except for the day Kurt Warner announced his retirement.
    GO Cards

  170. By Nick Pepe on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    @Darryl- who says he is losing Cardinal fans? You? Why? If you are jumping off the band-wagon because of this decision, then you are not a Cardinal fan. You may be a fan of Matt, but not a Card fan. True Card fans are excited about the coaching staff, talent, depth of this team. True Card fans are excited about the recent drafts and quality of talent those recent drafts have provided. True Card fans believe in our system. Believe that 2 in a row will in fact become 3. And lastly True Card fans want YOU to jump on whatever bandwagon your going to next and ride on to some other blog. Thanks for the hard work Darren, stay busy!
    Nick Pepe
    Lifetime Member

  171. By Jesse Robles on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    As a fan, I do not see why this didn’t happen in the offseason. What was Matt showing this summer that he is no longer showing? I just wish the Cardinals as an ORGANIZATION handled this better. EXCITED FOR THE SEASON!! We are OFFICIALLY AN AFC TEAM!! No QB, run the ball, and PLAY DEFENSE!! Whiz should be happy, the Steelers of the NFC are here. Take it one game at a time.

  172. By ParsonD on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    I enjoy these postings, but they are so judgmental.
    Is there a chance that Whiz. was just shking things up a little to get the ball in the end zone? Perhaps thinking he knew Matt coulc do it, he wanted to check out the back-up and get him used to the system? Its pre-season, who cares who starts? Just do your best for the TEAM. Maybe Matt’s outburst and petulance brought this upon himself.

    I did notice that when Kurt came in, back when Matt was No.1, that everyone seemed to run faster, define their routes better. Is it that Matt just never won over the team, even back then?

    Just wondering.

  173. By jocards on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    The reason I sense a lack of direction is that here we are 2 time defending NFC West champs & we’re going with a F/A castoff as our QB…I fully realize that Whiz knows his stuff & he knows the situation at QB far better than I but I’d have thoguth that a QB in our own system 7 a former 1 st rounder at that would’ve gotten a shot over a castoff F/A from Cleveland…I sure hope this works!

  174. By Bryan on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    Darren,

    Questions

    1. If Whiz had 100% control – do you believe Matt would have been cut/traded last year or even years ago?

    2. Any comment on this -> “We’re told that the players in Arizona don’t really care for Leinart. Former teammate Anquan Boldin addressed the situation recently on 105.7 the Fan in Baltimore, and Boldin said that he’s not surprised that Leinart has lost his job to Derek Anderson.” Add in Cris Carters comments and maybe the team just doesn’t buy him as a starting QB.

    3. It seems to me that Whiz believes neither DA or ML are the answer long term beyond 2010 at QB. They are simply 1 year stopgaps till the Cards can sign/trade/draft a starting QB for 2011. Maybe it is Skelton or Hall but most likely it isn’t. Skelton probably needs years of development and Hall just seems more like a Doug Flutie type possibly solid but not a above average starting NFL QB.

    So given ML’s history of not being a happy backup and the fact he doesn’t seem to inspire the team or have those intagibles…it makes more sense to keep DA and end the ML experiment. Thoughts?

    4. I hate Denny Green! We could have had Cutler instead. Despite his performance in Chi I think he would be a stud in the Cards offense.

  175. By Darren Urban on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    Bryan —

    1) Whiz does have control. So no.
    2) Not really anything for me to comment on, since I’m not a player. I haven’t heard that from a player, but again, I’m not a player either.

  176. By Cardinal Cody on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    I hate all the drama! I hope the team is able to focus okay with the media circus this QB situation has turned into. I know I’m having a hard time with it. I’ve gone from being excited to see what the team can do, to now being concerned about which direction they are heading. The organization has come too far to take any steps backwards. Only time will tell…don’t let us down coach!

  177. By GeneFrenkle on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    When you have to get up in the locker room and proclaim that you’re the leader, chances are you’re not.

    He sounds like a whiner to me.

    I look forward to seeing what DA can do AWAY from Cleveland….with some decent tools and a good coach!

  178. By Bryan on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    So if Whiz has 100% control and still chose to keep ML despite his flaws as his projected starter instead of trading for a better option (Jason Campbell etc) or waiting for Bulger etc to get cut, or DRAFTING Claussen when he falls to you; then the blame for this season and the QB situation being a complete disaster/snafu has to fall on him right?

    Because no one in the NFL thinks having Derek Anderson as your starting QB is a good thing. He is on par with the Brady Quinns, JP Losmans, and Jamarcus Russells of the NFL world.

    DA is a career backup with less than a 60% career completion percentage who is now the starting QB for the 2009 NFC West division champs. That is a complete failure on the Cardinals coaching staff and organization when teams like Oakland, Washington, Carolina, St. Louis, etc improved their QB situation.

  179. By Scott H on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    Can people just stop with Marc Bulger and Donavan McNabb? They ain’t here, they ain’t gonna be here, and they have NOTHING to do with the Arizona Cardinals this year. Get back to us if either of them ever puts on a Cardinals uniform. Until then, let it go. Really.

  180. By Ydwor on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    My guess that to Whiz stats aint not only what matters. In this way DA hasn´t done much better than ML. But to Whiz probably more important how QB deals with his men in the huddle. A leader, a motivator, one the others look up to, and inspires trust..?? What kind of expression on his face, way of talking, what type of body language, how the teammates respond to him.. DA seems to have that leadership quality. The rest can be improved! Wasn´t that the case with Warner also? When Whiz had to deal with Warner he admitted Warner lacked footwork, ball protection, moving along in the pocket. But all that they teached Warner, and Warner became an even more complete QB that in his MVP days. What seemed more important to Whiz, was that Warner was a leader. Teammates responded to him. Leadership quality you either have it or not. Seems to Whiz that QB skills alone are not important, he needs a guy to lead this team, and looks like he´s gotten charmed by DA.

  181. By shep on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    ok so whisenhunt is showing to be a fool…he is treating a GOOD KID WHO DID EXCELLENT HIS ROOKIE SEASON AND GOT PUSHED ASIDE BY WARNER. I get the sense that Wisenhunt is a bull artist although tries to portray another image and leinert deserves credit for speaking up and forcing wisenhunts hand in the media. How can anyone say Matt is abust when he has never been given a fair shake to start and play the last few years and this year. If the Cardinals who are going to lose alot of fans over this treat players and people right they would have traded or released matt before this season started of gotten behind him and supported him as the starter. He has been thrown under the bus…and deserves to be released so he can start at QB and prove himself elsewhere. WAY TO BLOW IT CARDS. Maybe this is why Boldin, Dansby and Rolle want to leave town. They were loyal to the franchise as well. As for you Darren i assume you have to be guarded by what you say and truly feel but speak out. What do you have against Matt Leinert as a QB having seen him from rookie year till now. Has he been given a fair shake to run this team. He comes off the bench against Titans last year and leads them to a victory the defense gives a way. He blows the doors down against Minnesota and Chicago a few years back…he gets a few lousy snaps this preseaswon and is fed a pile of crap by wisenhunt…I hope Wisenhunt reads you blog so he can guage many peoples anger over the way he allowed this to transpire

  182. By Darren Urban on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    Shep —

    First of all, and this will be brief, I have said I probably would start Leinart. But I am not a coach nor do I know everything about the decision-making process.

    Two, he did not blow the doors off the Vikings. He threw for 400 yards and had a good game, but they ran the ball five times that whole game and lost.

    Three, perhaps I am off base and you are friends with Matt (although there’d be a bias in that too), but how do you know much of what has happened on the inside? You do not.

  183. By Cardsftw on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    Darrne,
    This angers me!!! because DA is a hack!! Matt was ready for the start of the season! i think it should be leinart at the reins come opening day! we will see how it plays out! i think tomorrow night could be big!

  184. By hERE We gO aGAIN on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    CUT THE IN WHIZ WE TRUST CRAP. HE WENT TO THE SUPER BOWL WITH DENNY GREENS ROSTER AND NOW THAT HE IS VOIDING THE ROSTER OF THOSE PLAYERS, WE WILL SEE HOW GOOD OF A COACH HE REALLY IS. DEREK ANDERSON, AND TWO ROOKIES….REALLY!!!!!!!!

  185. By Ira on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    Does this Glazer guy actually know what he is talking about? or did he just create a story to cause instability for the Cardinals and us the fans. Like its something for us to talk about until the season starts. Funny on EPSN they are saying 75% of people think the Cardinal and Leinart should part ways (clearly not Cardinals fans, and probably the same people that say our team is crap at the beginning of every season). Beyond that SI and Roto are reporting that the Giants and the Raiders never had interest in him at all making me think this is all someone blowing smoke up our asses.

  186. By BluePitt on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    @Nick Pepe Dude you are a fool, I have lost almost all my respect for Whiz for doing this this way to Linefart, but will support my Cards. Who are you to say what a true fan is? In my opinion a true fan is one who is really involved in what his team does or doesn’t do! You don’t have to agree with every thing they do, That only makes you a fool,suck up or follower. Your opinions are foolish! So you are basically saying If you are a real fan you will bow down and love every thing your team does don’t you see how foolish that is.

  187. By jwit on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    Wow…
    This has definitely sparked a great QB debate. However, I’m really disappointed as a Card Fan by how quickly some other ‘fans’ can turn their backs on a organization / coaching staff that has been making strides with making a championship team. I personally believe that Coach Whiz has a better viewpoint to judge Leinart’s progression than anyone on this blog. So many people are quick to point out stats and the amount of snaps but fail to remember that Leinart had a head start learning Coach’s extensive playbook. Anderson should not be able to operate / move the offense better than Leinart. Some ‘fans’ may point out that Anderson has thrown picks and Leinart has not. Well… it’s easy to avoid picks and beef up your stats when you’re only making short passes. Anderson plays fearlessly and Leinart plays timidly (so which is better?) Coach Whiz has access to more info than we do, especially when it comes to intangibles. Leadership is something that can’t be gauged by stats or achievements it’s evident by how well a ‘team’ operates. Unfortunately for Leinart, the offense simply works better for Anderson.

    On another note: Anderson may not be as hopeless as some ‘fans’ believe. Why would a coach (who has proven himself to be competent) get rid of a quarterback who gives us the best chance to win? You can’t say money because the organization we still have to pay for Leinart’s remaining year. Apparently, the coach feels Anderson is the better QB. I’m not qualified to disagree with his judgment… are you? Let’s reserve our ‘the sky is falling’ chants for the mid-season…

    Go Cards

  188. By Ian on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    Well honestly look at first downs and yards not percentages if lienhart throws a 2 yard pass 3 times there’s no first downs and a leaders a leader he’s not one

  189. By blake on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    Hey Darren just to give you a little break , what do you think of this years cheerleaders 🙂

  190. By Darren Urban on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    Blake —

    What? Why, I haven’t noticed. Married and all that.

  191. By dean on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    I would love to hear what we would be saying in a little over a month when the cards have lost three of four games under Matt.This will get every players attention on the team, play to win play hard or you will be gone! GO CARDS…

  192. By Crown'em on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    to DRE

    WELL SAID!!!

    “To all the folks who are for Leinart or against him. To everybody who thinks coach Whisenhunt is wrong or right for all this drama. Here is the real story…the 2010 Arizona Cardinal Schedule. We play Rams(2), Seahawks(2), 49ers(2), broncos, chiefs, raiders, bucs, panthers, falcons, chargers, cowboys, viking and the saints….I see 9 to 11 wins easy with good hard nose defense, running the ball and a good ball manager at Qb.

    If this isn’t the perfect layout for the changing of the guard at QB, establishing a real running game and becoming a top 5 defense this year, I don’t know what is? There is at least 8 games were we can win just with our defense. This is what Matt needed and the Cardinals need to build confidence and move forward as a team…to become a better overall team for years to come.

    Surely Whisenhunt had to understand that we didn’t need to score 30 points per game to be successful. So Why do you yank Matt after two preseason games and panic about the qb position. We are the NFC Division Champs but I can not tell with all this non-sense. We are acting scared, unsure about something and that vibe is coming right from the top. A great coach or boss bring the best out of his players or employees…thats your responsibility Whisenhunt. Maybe Matt need to get the heck outta here because I can see who’s going to get the blame if we don’t make the playoff. Run – Matt – Run”

    Well said DRE…with the schedule and personnel, I figured no need to panic, probably 8-10 wins easy, and if everyone played like they’re capable of with No Injuries (probably 11-12 wins)…even if Matt had a few rough games, our Defense should be able to overcome it, THIS WAS THE PERFECT OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE MATT A CHANCE….Pound the ball with Beanie(let him get at least 20 carries/gm PLEASE), let your defense do the rest, let Matt manage the game as best as he can, & see what you got for the FUTURE!! Not 2 preseason games with limited amnt of snaps?? CMON WHIZ!!
    Even if we were going 4-12, I wanted him to start all 16 games just to see what we had with the 10th Overall pick…WHAT A WASTE! That’s when teams get bad, when you do nothing with your 1st rd picks, 2nd round picks …(please don’t tell me we’re going back to that trend) we have been good at drafting for the past 7 years, let’s not just throw picks away again!!

  193. By tyman on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    Dont think we will get a pick for matt. Best to part ways and get rid of the cry baby. Like for real his QB rating is good in the preseason, but he has always struggled to move the ball down field with the deep ball. If Matt would actualy work on gaining arm strenght he could be great. I think he is a total fail at this point now though, year 4 and the arm hasnt come time to go matty.

  194. By Dre on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    Dre –

    What makes you think this is a panic move?

    Darren —

    I have to go back to when Anderson was signed. Immediately, Whisenhunt announced Matt Leinart as the starter and Anderson the backup. Why? No one made him do that. Maybe to keep us calm…I mean, we were confident in his confidence of making that decision so early and we are talking about DA, who had baggage. After all the player we lost, there was still some hope because “the whiz” had it figured out.

    I think you can get first downs by running the ball too, you know. Ten yards is ten yard no matter how you slice it up. So, to make a dramatic statement by demoting Matt after TWO preseason game is a panic move right there and accusing him of not being able to get first downs is crazy…we know better, we saw him do it. I personally thought he would of got 5 to 6 regular season games before a move was to be made. And now they want to trade him, for what being human.

    Ok, here’s the kicker…you will honestly will gamble the season away on two rookie back-ups. You guys are talking as if they are Joe Montana like rookies and will be the face of the franchise. Well, you can’t have two rookie franchise qbs and it is ridiculous to even say it out loud.

    You know Darren, I agreed with everything the Cardinal did this off season except for two things. I didn’t like passing on Larry Foote and signing Paris Lenon. And bring Cleveland Brown problems here to Az…we didn’t need the distractions and look at us now, plus Paris Lenon let a ROOKIE take his spot.

  195. By shep on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    Darren-as an east coast guy i have watched the cardinals from afar for years. Don’t know Leinert or any of these guys from adam..i have and still own and run many successful businesses and realize having been a Giant fan how Parcells almost screwed Simms in the early 80’s..that Whisenhunt is pulling the same crap. I develop employees into leaders and give them a best opportunity to succeed. I judge Wisenhunts work from afar, granted, and don’t care to know the particulars, but any person with any instincts at all can see that this situation was poorly handled and Leinert is getting a raw deal and frankly has the last few years…how can one say the guy can’t perform when he has not done badly when he has played and has never been given a shot to run the team without Warner in the picture. Furthermore why did Graves draft him if he is paid to draft the right guy. He could have had Cutler in his hip pocket, but I still say Leinert was and still would be better if he was put in a West Coast system where accuracy and efficient passing was a prerequisite. So for an organization that was so high on Matt, (see how Green Bay developed Aaron Rodgers) how would they justify playing charades with him

  196. By Big Red on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    Im with you Bluepitt, hopes they dont trade Matt.

  197. By Big Red on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    I’m with you crown’em. Biggest mistake was to let go of Bolden. Supert Bowl bound RAVENS….WATCH AND SEE.

  198. By Don't Take Losses on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    to “hERE We gO aGAIN:

    In Whiz we Trust. Get with the program dude. Hate don’t work here, we in the love bid’ness:)

    Seriously, we will see, that’s fair. But you needn’t shout. And by the way, Green did not take them to the SB. Whiz did, regardless of “whose” players they were.

    I sit in row 1 of the end zone, have been season ticket holder since 1980s…and guess what…from my seat, Whiz is the greatest thing since sliced bread. But he did it with Warner’s help, the new stadium built by young Bid, with Lott, Graves, even with the Podcasters and Red Ragers stirring it up. This is a very young but also deep team, with some real all pros. It will be great to see how it all plays out. Bottom line: Whiz ain’t afraid…and that makes for exciting times. Try embracing it. I expect to roll the 49ers…but who knows, that’s why they play the games.

    http://www.investortradestocks.com/ This is my blog, I am a full time stock investor and trader, but my second passion is making MONEY. My twitter, http://twitter.com/DontTakeLosses is dedicated to two things, making money and Cardinals Football….

    Go Cards.

    Go Cards.

  199. By Darren Urban on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    Don’t Take —

    Love you take part here. This is the last time I will let you put up an ad, though.

  200. By Former Steeler Fan on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    My observations/opinions etc. {at least they’re worth something to me 🙂 :)}
    a) Since Whiz has been the coach, he plays the players, regardless of draft status, salary etc., who he thinks will give the team the best opportunity to win.
    b) He appears to believe that DA will give the Cards the best opportunity to win. I’ll trust his judgement (for now). (He was a QB coach and is the OC)
    c) I can not recall Whiz talking harshly to the media about any of his players.
    d) Whiz apparently sees enough talent in Hall and Skelton to not want to lose them. He would probably lose whichever of them that he tried to put on the Practice Squad. Ergo, either DA or ML has to go.
    e) Apparently, ML hasn’t shown Whiz enough leadership qualities to be the #1 QB.
    f) ML “causing” (???) Fitz to be injured was a nail in his coffin.
    g) At the end of the season (when I expect the team to be in the playoffs), Cards fans will probably look back on this QB situation with more acceptance.
    h) Do I think that Whiz has handled the QB “competition” well? No.
    i) I don’t think that he ever planned to select ML as the #1 QB.

  201. By jengland on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    Shep said more succinctly than I. What is Leinart’s QB rating this pre season? and DAs? What does he have to do? I think he needs to be traded for his own career. Whiz is an idiot.

  202. By Darren Urban on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    Jengland —

    Bring back Buddy Ryan!

  203. By Joe C on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    I think this is a good move as it seems everyone is focused on what Matt did in training camp which is the wrong way to look at things.
    Does everyone remember the last couple years when the Cards had big leads and Whiz put Matt in and then had to put Kurt back in as Matt either threw pics or went 3 and out (similar to the 3 and outs against the Titans last week) and let the other teams back in. This happened on several occasions and even against the Rams who had a terrible defense.
    Matt has not shined over the years except last year in the last preseason game against the Pakers and that was against no name players.
    History shows Matt is not the guy…..
    His body language shows it all. He is not a leader.
    If DA falters, our future actually looks good with Skelton and Hall both on the roster.

  204. By jengland on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    Joe. Your post makes no sense. ML has not been given a chance to prove himself and he won’t be given the opportunity. You can’t bring up games when a new quarterback hits the league and throws some picks. They all do it. Whiz should have stuck with him and given him his chance to start, but Whiz handled the situation all wrong and I don’t think it can be repaired. All I can say is good luck to Matt and I hope he comes back to haunt all you Card fans.

  205. By Darren Urban on Sep 2, 2010 | Reply

    Jengland —

    Which, I am assuming, you are not. A Card fan, that is.

  206. By robleezy on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    cut our losses and get him out of here we’ll be better for it

  207. By Justin on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    I just don’t understand why the Cards didn’t plan better for this to happen. I don’t think any of the quarterbacks who were available this offseason were worthwhile as replacements. It seems that Whisenhunt knew all along that Leinart wasn’t his guy. That is understandable, he’s the coach and I am the fan. But, that being said why not plan for a viable replacement in the next year or so. If Skelton is such a project and we were in need of somebody to step into that position, why not go after a QB earlier in the draft that wasn’t such a project? Clausen? I wasn’t sold on the fact that Leinart was our guy, but I was ready to see if he would sink or swim. If that meant a bad year this year, so be it…I enjoy going to the games anyway.
    It just seems that the Cards/Whisenhunt didn’t plan this whole thing out very well. Most people could have told you at the start of last season that it was Warner’s last year, why wasn’t the plan to replace him put into place two seasons ago? It’s obivous Leinart wasn’t Whisenhunt’s idea of a replacement, so it would have been nice to see some wheeling and dealing in the 09 or 10 draft to get somebody to develop. But, no…here we are, with apparently no viable option at QB this season and a bigger question mark than Leinart was in the face of Skelton and Hall. I was hoping we had turned a corner as an organization, but, at this point I’m not so sure we have.

    Here is to hoping that I’m wrong and the Cards give me a reason to be excited about some playoff football this year

  208. By TBru on Sep 1, 2010 | Reply

    Hey Derek I don’t know if you read this blog or not, but we had a saying here a couple years ago. Let’s see how did it go again, lets see oh yea.”SHOCK THE WORLD” your teammates rode a wave of criticism and lack of respect all the way to to the big dance. Time to show all the haters why you won the job, and why coach is the wiz.

    Best wishes & good luck Matt Leinart

  209. By Michael M on Sep 2, 2010 | Reply

    As a long time Cardinals fan im very disappointed to see the Cards going the route they are. Matt Leinart hasnt been given a proper chance to shine in the Preseason and has still done well. And if I believe its a huge mistake to give Derek Anderson the job on such a poor performance in the preseason. Stats alone show that Derek Anderson isnt starting QB material and I think that most Cards fans ignore that because of the hatred of Leinart for his past mistakes. Leinart will probably be given up because the Cards dont wanna pay his 14mil contract that will be coming up next year when they wouldnt even pay a future hall of famer like Warner. If Matty doesnt end up with the starting job I would much rather see Skelton or Hall in the position rather than some reject from another team. Definitely worried about this season but will always stand by the Cards. Good Luck boys and ill be cheering for you even when the so called Cards fans are booing when mistakes happen. Beat the Skins!!!

  210. By Redball_XPress on Sep 2, 2010 | Reply

    What a fiasco! Matt has not gotten a fair shake and should be given a fair amount of game time to show if he’s got it or not. Is this decision to bench him supposed to be based a few preseason drives during with a porous o-line? If I were Matt in that situation, I would be tentative too. I think by game 3, he had compensated for the fact that he was not going to get any help from his line and see how things improved?

    If, as it has been speculated, the team has not been giving their 100% effort with Matt at the helm, then they should all be dismissed. That is just unprofessional. We all have to deal with people on a professional level that we don’t necessarily like, but we suck it up and do the job that we’re paid to do. I am just disgusted by this whole mess. Thanks Whis…how is Faneca working out, btw?

  211. By CARDS!!! on Sep 2, 2010 | Reply

    hey darren wats going on today it doesnt seem like the cards will trade him cause it doesnt say anything about it?? do you know??

  212. By Darren Urban on Sep 2, 2010 | Reply

    Cards —

    There is a game against the Redskins tonight. That’s what I know.

  213. By Don't Take Losses on Sep 2, 2010 | Reply

    Urb. [Understood, no problemo.. Won’t post my link again. Btw, I just put the link up earlier without comment and I got a LOT of traffic. So gave an explanation in the second one after it I checked my analytics for other purposes and saw it attracted so much traffic. Check my site out, you may find of interest. I won’t link it anymore].

    Btw, also now seems like Leinart could become the backup if we get no takers on a trade. Works for me. Just not sure DA can get it done, but that’s why they pay the games. Go Cards.

  214. By Darren Urban on Sep 2, 2010 | Reply

    Don’t Take —

    No worries. Just don’t want to go down a slippery slope.

  215. By disappointed_card on Sep 2, 2010 | Reply

    Darren:

    Life has its ways. Just like the real world, this is something that could happen here as well. Whiz and Matt did not have the right chemistry for each other. Whiz will fire Matt. Matt uses this as a motivation and becomes a great player somewhere else. Whiz has his team and he does great as well. Steve Young was fired by Tampa Bay once. Steve Young won an SB in SF. TB made it to Superbowl. Testaverde was a disaster once. Tuna made him a great player later. It is a long life and Matt should use this to motivate himself. Whiz is going to be a professional and he is not going to bad mouth Matt even after he leaves. Matt also needs to shut up and focus this bad treatment by Whiz in a positive manner.

  216. By Chris F on Sep 2, 2010 | Reply

    Bottom line…Leinart is a semi-decent back-up QB at best. Whatever he did in college is ancient history and does not metter here in the least. Whiz knows this. Leinart knows this. And now…so do we. We have all sat back and listened to his excuses for quite some time. He has let us down more times than not. And ya know what… If your sitting on the bench behind a Pro Bowler and future hall of famer like KW, you swallow your pride and do what it takes to learn from that guy. Thats the way it works in the real world. If you want to advance, you work hard. AND YOU MAKE PLAYS WETHER ITS PRESEASON OR NOT THAT SHOW YOU ARE READY AND WILLING AND ABLE TO LEAD US TO VICTORY!!!!!! Just like Skelton did! PERIOD! Matt looked like a wet towel out there until DA threatened his job. Is that what it takes to get ML motivated? Well too bad for you buddy, cause we need someone thats self motivated and wants to take us to the superbowl. Not someone that just “gets by”. Good luck finding a job Matt. Hope you had a good GPA in school cause you are gonna need it now that you have shown the entire NFL that you are a mediocre career backup.

  217. By Dre on Sep 2, 2010 | Reply

    As a fan I believe the difference in doing things the right way is…do I go to the game, watch the game on TV or do I just catch the highlights. It looks like a highlight clip year or Cardinals year in review next spring.

  218. By Leinart Fan on Sep 2, 2010 | Reply

    Well, ESPN is posting that Charlie Whitehurst has fallen out of favor with Seattle.

    THis would be a great trade/move for all involved. I am not familiar with contract specifics for Whitehurst. Leinart goes to a coach who believes in him and will not say one thing/do another. And Whitehurst would go to a coach who actually WANTS him.

    This would be a good move for Cards and Hawks. Seattle is running an offense similar to what SC ran, so Leinart would get up to speed very quickly.

  219. By 949Cardsfan on Sep 2, 2010 | Reply

    Hey Graves, lets make coach Whiz “compete”, see how he likes it, makes everyone better right? If the Cards dont make the playoffs he’s second string, coach Grimm is the head coach.

  220. By 949Cardsfan on Sep 2, 2010 | Reply

    In my opinion, if Leinart stays, he is starting by week 5. Thats how much confidence I have in DA.

    Then the question will be, does coach really have the teams best interest in mind? Cause you know he would have pulled Leinart in a jiffy given the same circumstances. Sorry Whiz, but I just dont trust you anymore. I lost a lot of repect for you. Learn how to treat people (fairly)!

  221. By jjmock on Sep 2, 2010 | Reply

    Darren-

    I hear now that the Cards are going to search for a trade for Leinart, is there any truth behind that? If there is do you think he can still win the starting job back because I think he has outplayed D. A. all preseason.

  222. By Darren Urban on Sep 2, 2010 | Reply

    jjmock —

    Kinda late to the party, aren’t you. That’s what this blog post is about.

  223. By Nick Pepe on Sep 2, 2010 | Reply

    Darren, allow me. @JJMOCK, you are just hearing that? Did you read Mr. Urban’s post?….scroll up…… Yes there is truth and (my opinion) no he is done with this franchise.
    And to all you who are questioning the staff decision and blasting Whiz just are not being realistic. They gave him a chance to solidify the job not once, not twice, but thrice! He didn’t get it done. Period. Further, the staff has made some pretty good decisions in the last few years. Benching Matt in favor of Kurt being one. They are two time defending champs of their division, that has not been done since the mid 70’s. If you don’t have faith or you are a bandwagon jumper or just “Leinart” fans looking to see your boy play….please, put a sock in it.

  224. By shep on Sep 2, 2010 | Reply

    jengland and 949 cards fan…you guys and i are right and probably 75% or more of the comments here are agreeing that to the point Wisenhunt is a turning out to be a joker (nice line about letting Grimm compete or his job) and Matt Leinert is getting treated with no class by the Caridnals and the Coach. I hope they send him to Seattle and he comes back to bite Wisenhunt in his keister…the Cards had this guy groomed to be their leader and turned on him.

  225. By scott023 on Sep 5, 2010 | Reply

    This is really disapointing to see so many of you turning on the leader of our team, I will just bet that not the same road you were on when coach whiz took us to the bowl and shut the mouthes of all the people that said the cards stink. The two time division champs! As long as you liked his moves it was fine, he was great. If you really think you know more about football than him then get in here! If you really think he is here to destroy the cardinals, then keep it up. His job is to see the right path for the cardinals ,every factor, take in all the information and make your best chioce for the team. You may not like his chioce, if you are a true cardinals fan,you will stand by the coaches that got you there. Matt will be fine, someone will pick him up and life goes on for him. If the coach saw something that just did not fit the cards or what ever reason. Life goes on for the cardinals. I read one guy say he hope the hawks would pick him up and come back to beat us?.!? Great cardinal fan this guy! Shame on you joke fans and non believer’s ? A bunch of know from nothing armchair qb’s. Our qb Anderson we have to lead us must feel great knowing he has a strong fan base! True cardinal fans would never ever do this, and you know it.

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