Rams aftermath

Posted by Darren Urban on September 12, 2010 – 11:36 pm

Didn’t we just talk about going and getting a win in St. Louis, regardless? So that’s what the Cards did.

But there is little question, of all the big-picture items coming out of the 17-13 nailbiter, was about quarterback Derek Anderson. He completed his first six passes and 10 of his first 13. Then he missed on his next seven. On the game-winning drive, he completed 6-of-7 (and piled up 101 yards passing on that drive, because of penalties).

“We still have to find out what our strengths are going to be with Derek as far as the kinds of passes we are going to run,” coach Ken Whisenhunt said. “He made some good throws and he made some throws that were not so good.”

Whisenhunt insisted he was comfortable with Anderson (so everyone clamoring for Max Hall, stop). He praised Anderson for handling himself well. Perhaps Whisenhunt just understands who Anderson is and there are things a team must accept.

Anderson was impressive in taking responsibility. “I missed some throws, some easy ones I have to make,” he said. “I know that. I have to be better.” Later, he compared it to his beloved golf game (he is a scratch golfer), saying some of his incompletions “are like missing four-foot birdies.”

He missed Larry Fitzgerald on 12 of the 15 passes he threw No. 11’s way, including a seam route that Fitz was behind everyone. “I want that, I have to hit that,” Anderson said. “I will watch it tomorrow and probably be sick.”

— Whisenhunt thinks it will get better with Anderson. Both he and his quarterback wore that tired smile that comes after a win. Anytime you can make some mistakes – or in this case, have the offense stagnant for a chunk of the game – and still win, that’s the best kind of learning experience. Anderson did throw the game-winning TD after all (celebration below) and didn’t throw an interception (although the Rams dropped at least one).

— It didn’t help that Early Doucet is hurt again, straining a groin and forcing two rookies – Stephen Williams and Max Komar – into significant playing time. Whisenhunt also said Fitz’s injured knee starting bothering him late in the game too.

— Tim Hightower may have cost himself dearly with two fumbles. Hightower had fumbling issues last season and to have it crop up twice today is the fastest way to the doghouse. The last one did look like he was down, but let’s face it, the only job the running back has after that last interception by Kerry Rhodes is to not turn it over. The game is then over.

— Komar desperately needed that big 20-yard catch he made on the final TD drive. It was Komar’s lost fumble after his previous catch around the Rams’ 5-yard line cost the Cards at least three points, and he twice dropped punt returns to the turf (but recovered those). “You are both encouraged and upset” with Komar, Whisenhunt said, “but that’s this game.”

— The Cardinals, by the way, didn’t fumble seven times in a game at all from 1983 through 2008. Now they have done it twice in five games (including the Monday night debacle in San Francisco late last season).

— New cornerback Greg Toler did fairly well. He was a sound tackler with 13, while the Rams clearly went in his direction and tried to stay away from DRC.

— The 17 points scored were the fewest for the Cards in a victory since Whiz became coach.

— Definitely one of the best all-around games safety Adrian Wilson has ever played. He plays like this, he may reach that coveted 30-30 club (sacks and interceptions) yet. He now has 21½ sacks and 25 picks. (As good as he was, though, I do not expect Wilson to have 16 sacks and 32 interceptions this season. I do expect him to be NFC defensive player of the week, however).

— Anderson praised newbie Ram Sam Bradford, but he did note, “I was kind of happy we had a rookie quarterback leading them at the end.”

— Weirdest part of the game was because of the great play by Steve Breaston, the Cardinals had, essentially, a 10-play drive (plus three other plays called back because of penalty) that lasted almost five minutes of game clock. It started at the Arizona 29 and ended at the Arizona 35. “Talk about a 15-play drive to nowhere,” center Lyle Sendlein said.

Not that it matters now. Now, it’s a funny little anecdote in a win’s aftermath.

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101 Responses to “Rams aftermath”

  1. By Prashant on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    Great game, GO CARDINALS!!! The cardiac cards are back. Our defense is TOP notch. A-dub led from the front, Rhodes is not past his expiration date yet, and Washington was impressive.

    Darren, how bad is Doucet’s injury? We need him back now! And Beanie too! THT cost us twice today. Also I didn’t see Dan Williams today though.

    I thought the Rams defense played well too, and they kept blitzing Anderson. Our O-line has too many holes, and DA was taking big hits. I think he played alright, considering all the factors. He needs to make those easy throws to the open receivers though.

    We need a lot more practice, I guess. Whiz must figure out the plays that suit us most right now and keep calling them. If we can get past the Falcons, we should have enough time to work on our obvious weaknesses.

    GO CARDS!!!!!!!!!!! 1-0 baby, and the 49’s got shut out by the Hawks too!!!!

  2. By kaleb on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    Not to be condescending to whiz but didnt he say we are going to play who ever gives us the best chance to win. i feel like he isnt giving max a chance because he wants to defend his decision in electing anderson. i dont see any problem with carrying a QB competition into the regular season. maybe anderson had the jitters… idk… but i could tell fitz was fed up with those nonsense passes. way too many under thrown balls… where did that come from ???

  3. By Darren Urban on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    Kaleb —

    Max Hall is not ready to start in this league.

  4. By Joe-B on Sep 12, 2010 | Reply

    At least the Fumble let A-Dub get another pick….. Glass half full.

    And forget NFC Defensive Player of the Week, he should be the NFL Defensive Player of the Week.

  5. By Az Bombers11 on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    A Win is A Win…anyway you can get them….1-0 is way better than 0-1.

  6. By Shane on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply


    Anyway you could get some clarification on the “healthy scratch” for Gabe Watson? We have heard nothing but what a great camp he was having. He looked really good in the pre-season as well. Certainly outplayed Robinson from this and other fans point of view? Does the staff feel truly that at this point Robinson is the better player?

  7. By Darren Urban on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    Shane —

    Obviously they do otherwise Robinson would have been inactive Sunday. I will ask today though.

  8. By Tyrelle on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    Whiz needs to stop making excuses for the players who under perform. There is no time for that. The 49ers are not looking so good and if we want to defend our title we need Derek to step up.

  9. By darrel on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    I really liked what dan willams. Did he can easliy take on two guys it helps. Our Lbs a lot. Daryl washington. Did not make any mistakes he plays very smart and he keeps flyin around the football and kerry rohdes is way better than antrel rolle in coverage rolle would have gave up that int. Overall we got the win hopefully fitz, beanie, and doucet get healthy we need those guys to play at high level

  10. By darrel on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    Darren can you see us picking up veteran wr I just don’t have that much faith in max komar After breaston and fitz all we have our rookies now

  11. By Darren Urban on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    Darrel —

    I doubt it at this point but it’s always possible. You pick up a vet you have to cut someone, remember.

  12. By Zeeesh on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    Anderson was terrible, going on a stretch of 2-14 pass attempts during the game is bad enough, but when you are missing easy throws my grandma could make to Wide Open receivers you are flat out terrible.

    It’s pretty sad that his only solace was facing a Rookie QB. If this were even an average team the Cards faced yesterday they lose by no less than 20 points with Anderson’s crap.

    But hey, atleast he has charisma right?

  13. By Red32 on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    The first week of the season is always ugly — mainly because defenses tend to be developmentally ahead of the offenses — but managing to win on the road in an opener against a division rival is fantastic! We were one of only three teams to do that on Sunday, and I think DA did a damn fine job. And our defense looked amazing…it’s nice to be a team that can struggle a little offensively and still manage to win!

  14. By Chris on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    Adrian Wilson was on his game. 2 ints, 1 sack, and a blocked field goal. where was he last year for the kickoff game? Breaston saved the day by forcing the fumble to keep the rams from scoring on defense. And hightower was down on that “fumble”.

  15. By Gary on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    A win is a win, no matter how ugly the game was played offensively. As a Cards fan for the past 23 years, I have seen much worse. I would like to see less turnovers and to capitalize on those turnovers our team produces, with points on the board. Our team had those opportunities yesterday, again, the turnover monster reared its head. Hightower needs to cover-up that rock with two arms. Both fumbles by him were the result of not covering up the ball. Komar, this guy can be great but he needs to secure that football! Our offensive linemen need to stay on those blocks and push those DL/DEs back every play. I think this will come more consistently in time. I was pleased to see Derek and Larry connect on the TD pass. Both of these guys needed that, big time! Derek needs to work on those finesse passes as he missed a few short ones yesterday. I trust the accuracy will improve as the season progresses. Breaston, WOW! What a sure beast yesterday. This will be another break-out year for him (he had 1000 receiving yards in ’08 as the 3rd wide-out). I was very impressed with our defense and I am very excited to see this unit continue to progress throughout the season. Adrian had the kind of game I expected him to have yesterday. He definitely deserves defensive player-of-the-week honors. Toler had a very solid game and I have been waiting for him to get the call to start with DRC since last season. He is a much better talent than McFadden, in my opinion. Poor Kerry, he ran out of gas on that INT, I was hoping to see some trickery and pitch it back to Toler. Maybe it was better left as it happened, though. I have been itching all off-season for yesterday. and I am pleased we have begun this season with a win. Go Big Red!

  16. By Darren Urban on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    Gary —

    It’s funny you mention Rhodes pitching the ball back. At that point, all the sideline wanted was for him to go down. The game should have been over. Had he pitched it, I think the coaches would have had a collective heart attack.

  17. By Gary on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    Hi Darren,

    I thank you for all the hard-work you put in for this web site. You do a fantastic job and us Cardinals fans appreciate all you do!


  18. By Marlon Skrusinski on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    To be honest, the biggest problem still is the ofensive line. I see a lot of people criticizing Anderson, but how do we want him to deliver each and every pass when he is getting hit all the time? For what I saw, he played well and he’s not the only one to blame for all the mistakes we’ve seen.

    Another thing to note it was the pressure on Anderson to pass to Fitzgerald. It was obvious the guy was desperately trying to complete passes to Fitz, and that almost ended up in interceptions.

    Darren –

    I asked you this before (on the chat), but at this point, do you think we should get worried about Doucet’s proneness to injuries? Do you think it’s possible the Cards go after a free agent WR in case Doucet injuries becomes an issue?

  19. By Darren Urban on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    Marlon —

    I will ask Whiz about Doucet today.

    Also, the Rams blitzed a ton. That accounted for a lot of the pressure, not necessarily o-line breakdowns.

  20. By Sebastian Blax on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply


    With five tackles and a deflection, it seemed like a pretty quiet day for DRC. You mentioned that the Rams were throwing more in Toler’s direction. Do you think shying away from DRC was part of the Rams’ game plan or just happened to be the way the game played out?

    Also — and I know regional game coverage gives us the broadcast ‘b team’ — but I recognized the commentators mentioning more that a couple times that DRC seemed to be getting away with some ‘illegal contact’, both away from the play (seemingly bumping the WR off his route past 5 yards) and as an inference to pass interference. Not asking you to call out the officiating or broadcast crews, but with your more complete view of the game from the dome, could you comment on whether or not DRC appeared to be getting away with any penalties on his coverage? I, for one, thought the officiating did a fairly good job throughout the game.

  21. By Darren Urban on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    Sebastian —

    I think the Rams avoided DRC, yes. And as for the other stuff, I wasn’t watching to be able to comment.

  22. By Former Steeler Fan on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    I’m going to paraphrase a well-known commercial: “When you absolutely positively have to have a running back hold onto the ball, play the Hyphen”!!!
    (NOT TH)!!! I would like to see Whiz start Hyphen next game instead of TH to send a strong message. I know. I know. TH is a very good blocking back for DA. Also, when TH is running to his left, carry the XXXX ball in his LEFT hand!!!

    Re: Breaston; What a determined player to run down the StL player with the fumble recovery. Too bad that someone didn’t show that determination in the SB.

  23. By Ross on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    Darren, I am a huge hightower fan, as you know…but this is ridiculous.

    Did he talk to the media after the game? Also, do you expect him to be the starter going forward, or did he just lose the job?


  24. By Darren Urban on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    Ross —

    Don’t know if he talked. The way the interviews went down (Breaston, Whiz, ADub and Anderson were all brought into an interview area in a row) I couldn’t get to the locker room. As for the starting job, don’t know. If Beanie isn’t healthy, there isn’t much choice.

  25. By card62 on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    I am glad you guys are seeing the glass half full. I just wish it wasn’t kool-aid you were drinking. We barely beat the Rams, the stinking Rams who do not even have a number one receiver and maybe not even a number two receiver, and a rookie QB starting his first NFL game..

    Our defense will also be okay the next two weeks as Atlanta only has Roddy White and DRC can contain him, and Gonz,.at TE and WIlson or Rhodes can cover him and Matt Ryan and Jason Campbell for the Raiders are not great QBs, but when we face a team with a great QB and WRs we will be embarassed. We can make the playoffs again this year but this year will be a struggle of ups and downs. The best thing we have going for us is our weak schedule.

    Wilson a beast great game and game ball.
    Entire secondary played well. Rhodes and Toler special mention.
    Steve Breaston true professional with great heart. Game Ball
    Rookie QB throws 55 times and we can not get pressure on him at all without blitzing the stinking Rams. We see a problem and we do not improve it. CC looked best of all.
    Brandon Keith losses us the game if not for Breaston, Nice start LT.
    5 straight runs zero pasees on our only TD of the first half and then we go away from the run. T. Haley if the Chiefs fire you please come home.
    Grimm when are you going to coach up the piglets?
    When are we going to hire a RB coach who can teach the RBs to not fumble?
    Last year this cost us a couple of games and once again this year we have mometum right off the bat and we lose it all when Timmy loses the ball, and yes his second fumble was not a fumble just like Beanies last fumble in the preseason was not a fumble, but this can happen if you do not hold onto the ball and both of these guys know they have reputations, but once again problem from last year not addressed.
    Early Doucet you need to join the FFL. Flag Football League. Tackle is not your game. QQQQQQQ We should have paid the man. We need you in the locker room and on the field.
    Max K. breathe in breath out breathe in breathe out.
    Teddy Ginn should would have been nice to have you back there on punt returns, but we have Roberts out of that football powerhouse called the Citadel so we have no need for you and your limited skills.
    Derek Anderson not your fault as you should have been on the sideline holding the clipboard. No Max Hall should not have been in the game Marc Bulger or Donovan McNabb or quarterback XXXXX should have been here and Matt L. traded in the offseason. Derek I do hope someone gives you a compass before next Sunday.
    Damn your retirement Kurt Warner. I hope you pull a hamstring dancing.
    Just venting my brothers and sisters. It is just frustrating watching us grow the past 2 seasons and then looking at our roster now and the way we played Sunday. I am glad we do this together as I would hate to go through this season alone. I do thank Wilson and Breaston and a minor assist to the Rams coaching staff for the steak dinner I won. Go Cards beat Falcons! .

  26. By don on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    We got the win and that’s all that matters. Our defense is everything I thought it would be, extremely solid. Out of Bradford’s 55? passes atleast 40 went Tolers way. Toler showed he can be a solid tackler and I don’t recall him giving up any big plays. The depth on our front line is key to the defense, allowing everyone to be fresh all game is important. I believe we will be sharper in Atlanta and if we could pull out a big road win, watch out NFC.

  27. By darrel on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    Toler gave up a deep fade route. The pass was thrown too good for him to do anything about it

  28. By Wampag on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    hey D you read this…

    have a feeling Dungy might be headed to San Fran I really thought Philly but after this

  29. By Tyrelle on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    Is Anderson and Fitz working on getting on the same page?

  30. By Darren Urban on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    Tyrelle —

    Uh, since yesterday?

  31. By OLdude on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    !st game jitters/rust/?? whatever you call it , it was a ‘W’……on the road against an improved Rams team…..overcame devastating turnovers..NO BEANIE……inconsistent QB play…3 of 15 to Fitz…won in SPITE of ourselves and dummies are calling for MAX ….he”s not quite ready and DEREK did some good things…he will get better..worried about “ball security” issues and O line holes…..there WAS a time there was NO way we win this game!!………Early looked good but injured again..Breaston will make us forget Anquan sooner than later….hope Fitz’s knee ok….Max Komar nervous but potentially solid rcvr/returner….Solid play by Toler…. they were scared of DCR….AW PLAYED GREAT GAME!….good Safety play….CARDIAC CARDS BACK??…hope not , can’t take too many of these…..Darnell “took a walk to LoLo’s” “Earth calling 90 Earth calling 90 come in Dock”…lol…”in Whiz we Trust”

  32. By bryce on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    DA did good he was missin two big pieces of the puzzle with beanie out and fitz jus coming back not to metion anderson took a really hard hit in ribs in the 2Q and thats when he starting throwing shitty but still toughed it out and came back to make plays also everytime he tried to strat a drive penaltys keeped getting called…overall was happy with the way DA played he took hits and made the throw jus like#13 give me time with fitz cuz once there timing clicks there gonna be deadly so keep ur night lights on 49ners Fans!

  33. By MIKEG on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    Hey Darren -Nice Blogs!! It was good to see the Cards
    win a road game and score just 17 points. That says something about our D & gives us another
    way to win ball games-which is important. The last couple years –I don’t know if we could have done that. On the Breaston strip — did you see who recovered the fumble??? Lyle Sendlein– he ran a long
    way to get it!! Great hustle huh??? Did you think that was the play of the game????–a real game changer!!!

  34. By Darren Urban on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    MikeG —

    Sendlein, Keith and Levi all hustled back on the play. They all deserve props for making the effort.

  35. By bryce on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    almost forgot we easily have one of the top five defenses this year…very happy camper i took cards def. in my fanasty league

  36. By Justin on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    Kudos to Anderson for standing in there and taking hit after hit…I will question his accuracy, but not his toughness.
    Breaston is the man…nuff said.

  37. By tRiGiDy22 on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    Darren, Do u think Fitz came back to early??? An do u think we will have 2 shut him down an rest that Knee sometime soon this season???

  38. By Darren Urban on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    Trigidy —

    No. Fitz will play. He may not be 100 percent though.

  39. By DRC #1 FAN on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    most of our pressure was from single matchups against calias. our blitz’s gave clean hits at the qb. i dont know what people thought going into the season. but this is who we are. we will win games 15 to 13. 21 to 20 at most. it is a different style of football. look how beat up the rams were. how hard we were hitting them! even clayton shyed away in those final drives from passes he was catching early in the game. our secondary was awesome. if anyone watched any football yesterday they would see that we are not the only team with a lot of changes having a rough first day. but ours was better than most.

  40. By Tyrelle on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    lmao No, but i meant to say are they going to?

  41. By Darren Urban on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    Tyrelle —

    Of course they will.

  42. By tRiGiDy22 on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    Its weird seeing are O! fight itself out of a wet paper bag! Beside Breston’s break out game! (Bolden Who?)An are D! is running the Ship. We just plugged in key players an got it done! K.rhodes, Porter,Washington (Dansby Who?)( Rolle Who?) Cards remind me of the Bears of old Great D an cant score!! I see alot of game this year coming down too late (FG’s) We have a Superbowl team D!! Now i just hope we can get it together on O! Go Bigred

  43. By cardfan on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    cut tim hightower

  44. By Steve on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    Lets not forget that this game should have had 10 to 14 points more scored by the Cards if not for putting the ball on the field in the red zone twice.

    The D showed they can be dominate, but DRC needs to stop taking plays off. Rolle who…

    DA will get in sync with Fitz. Some of this was Fitz btw. DA through behind him and whne Fitz tried to cut back he fell. I would guess bc he can’t put pressure on the knee.

    Whiz will have ball security drill everyday this week. You know ATL will be hammering at the ball all day long.

  45. By Dean Kennedy on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    Bottom line for this game: No Steve Breaston, no victory. You can’t overstate what Breaston did yesterday.

  46. By Ditship on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    I told my wife after the game was over that the Cardinals will likely be the death of me one day. It was entertaining for sure.

    Hightower really **** the bed. I’ve always been a big Hightower fan but those two fumbles really sucked. If Beanie can get healthy it might be worth Benching Hightower and see if we can light a fire under at least 1 of them. Or maybe Start the Hyphen and really get some people pissed off.

  47. By SC Tyler on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply


    The rams put DRC to sleep. When they saw he was getting bored, they took advantage of him late in the game. The defense needs to do something about keeping him involved. He is a playmaker. The defense was spectacular but DRC needs to be there. What do you thing of the DRC situation?

  48. By Darren Urban on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    SC Tyler —

    Good point. DRC usually can be lulled to sleep. Something to look into.

  49. By Ryan on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    Even though we won it feels like a loss doesn’t it? With how bad we played it was embarrasing to barely beat the Rams.

    A few thoughts for the coaching staff….

    I thought Anderson was working on his footwork and his accuracy was coming along? I don’t see it getting any better, he’ll be a 50% completion guy for his whole career. Get Max Hall ready.

    Larry Fitzgerald – It was painful to watch Larry limp around out there i hope he can get better soon. As far as him not being on the same page as Anderson….how can he be when balls on thrown behind, short and way WAY over his head?

    Hightower – How long will it take Whiz to realize Hightower is 3rd on the depth chart at best? He wants to carry the load and be the starter? Tim is pathetic and awful from fumbles, dancing around in the backfield, bad jukes and no power. He should not start next game to say the least!

    Max Komar – I realize your a rookie and that you were nervous but dude you layed the ball on the ground 3 times! 3 TIMES! It was like coach Whiz was trying to lose the game putting you back in there to field more punts. Change your gloves or do something man.

    Defense and Breaston you guys get the game ball!

  50. By Tinted Facemask Visor on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply


    Now that week one is over, and the deal with guarenteed contracts… Any chance at re-signing guys? Becht or Beisel? Or maybe picking up a veteran fullback or outside linebacker?

  51. By Darren Urban on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    Tinted —

    Don’t see that, but always possible.

  52. By jesus on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    hyphen looks good, and fumbling not some he we hope whiz keeps praising hightower yet it seems when it matters he can’t hold the ball. killing me

  53. By pacardfan on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    for thse who are bashing DA, get over it. It is only week one and there is still little nick nacks that need to be worked out. All teams have this. It’s the 1st that all the first string playts a full game and with DA and Fitz. not having much tie to get their timing and all before this game, you should realize that is whythere was a lot of missed catches/passes to Larry. Larry hurtin ddn’t help either. Give Larry time to hel and practice with DAand watch DA shine. I have always liked DA and in cleveland, he didn’t have the talent he has now in AZ. Give the man time to get use to this system nd all. Als, why cut Hightower Cards fan? Yes he has a fumbling problem. AP does to, but would u cut him if u were Minn.? Hightower will improve (hopefully that will be sooner than later). LSH…DAMN. Saw him last yr. at training camp and loved him! He is beast! Go Cards!!!!!!!!!!

  54. By DA Apologist on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    DA was great! As long as Whiz writes the checks that will be the angle on here. The ability to hit the broad side of a barn isn’t required as long as you didn’t go to USC or win the Heisman! DA will go down in Cardinals lore with other greats such as Jeff Blake, Josh McCown, and Dave Brown!

  55. By Dre on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    A win is a win, thats what some people are saying. Wins like that are scary because you don’t what to make out of them. You might say things like it was the first game…well, it was the Ram first game too. We didn’t have all our players health….this is the NFL, every team deals with injuries and keeps it moving. The offense needs time to gel, well why y’all think they took care of Docket early.

    There is some truth to beating a team like the Rams convincingly, making a statement. I think we should just be happy to win games against teams that we are suppose to beat. I think we are going to have to take a page from the SUPERBOWL WINNING Tampa Bay Buccaneers, remember what they did with Brad Johnson in 2003 and the defense they had. Our defense is right there, we have enough of the peices to do damage but we are still a little inconsistent. They say offense sells tickets and defense wins championships…

    Our schedule works in our favor just as long we beat the teams we are capable of beating and reach deep down when we play the Falcons, Viking, and Chargers.

  56. By D ryans on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    Darren, i would like to know what it is about Max Hall that makes you keep saying that he is not ready for the NFL. It’s not like he is a young buck coming out of college at 22 and getting homesick, he is almost 26 and looks to me like he could be entering his prime. Why just let him rust on the sideline when he could be learning from actually doing. You can’t say that Bradford would have learned more yesterday by holding a clipboard, can you? Granted D A was under alot of pressure, but when he did have time he was still thowing ducks all over the field. Halls footwork and accuracy makes a huge difference on blitzes and hitting wide open LARRY!. D A has none. Let the “rookie” play.

  57. By Darren Urban on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    D Ryans —

    Because he isn’t ready. Because the coaches say he isn’t ready. Rookie quarterbacks who have to throw on teams as much as the Cardinals do don’t win usually.

    Bradford didn’t win, either.

  58. By Doug on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    I know DA has accuracy problems. It’s who he is. Even as a pro bowler he only completed 56% of his passes. But you can’t help but wonder if a healthy Fitz hauls a few of those in. The one in the endzone JUST missed. One pass Fitz slipped out of his break. Not a great pass, but he probably would have caught it. And he just wasn’t able to get off the line well. That’s huge. I’m not trying to necessarily defend DA. He forced bad passes to Fitz. I understand wanting to feed your #1. But Fitz looked far from 100% and he was flat out forcing it. That’s on DA. But he sure looked a lot better when he went away from him. Leads me to think that when they get more reps together and Fitz gets closer to 100% we’ll see some changes for the better. Just makes sense. Your thoughts, Darren?

  59. By Darren Urban on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    Doug —

    Makes sense to me.

  60. By Lou on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    This was not a pretty game. But every season the cardinals have a game like this. I do think that we may have a really hard time this season, DA did not look good one bit. Timmy he is having trouble holding onto the ball, the second fumble should have be called different. Eveyone has said or is saying bring in Max Hall. The kid is not ready yet we all know that. Let him sit and learn more, his time will come. I wish the cardinals would have took a look at a vet QB but really there is no one out there. With a healthy fitz and wells the cardinals could be a team that flys under the table, but as we all saw yesterday this team will hurt from not having Q and warner around. I think stevie B played a great game but i really do think we will hurt from not having Boldin around here. Brandon Keith had a hard time with chris Long and i do think Long really got into Keith’s head. Are D played good kept us in the game, but all in all its a W a very ugly win but its a win.

  61. By chad d. on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    darren, for once i have a few questions. With beanie out and tim putting it on the ground, will the hyphen get more touches or even a start? and also, with komars big fumble is there any chance they get rid of him and go after o. jones if he’s not already on a team? i think the guy is a lot more physical and less likely to put it on the ground.

  62. By Darren Urban on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    Chad D —

    Komar isn’t going anywhere yet. He’s not going to be tossed aside after one bad game. Hyphen will not be starting either.

  63. By Doug on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    And why are we writing off Timmy after one game??? Geeze people. Two years ago, he was going to take over Edge’s job and run for thousands of yards. Last year, people were on these boards saying Timmy and Beanie were the best duo in the world. Now Timmy has a bad game and LSH is a HOF’er…

  64. By Dre on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    Ryan wrote:

    Even though we won it feels like a loss doesn’t it? With how bad we played it was embarrasing to barely beat the Rams.

    A few thoughts for the coaching staff….

    I thought Anderson was working on his footwork and his accuracy was coming along? I don’t see it getting any better, he’ll be a 50% completion guy for his whole career. Get Max Hall ready.

    Larry Fitzgerald – It was painful to watch Larry limp around out there i hope he can get better soon. As far as him not being on the same page as Anderson….how can he be when balls on thrown behind, short and way WAY over his head?

    Hightower – How long will it take Whiz to realize Hightower is 3rd on the depth chart at best? He wants to carry the load and be the starter? Tim is pathetic and awful from fumbles, dancing around in the backfield, bad jukes and no power. He should not start next game to say the least!

    Max Komar – I realize your a rookie and that you were nervous but dude you layed the ball on the ground 3 times! 3 TIMES! It was like coach Whiz was trying to lose the game putting you back in there to field more punts. Change your gloves or do something man.

    Defense and Breaston you guys get the game ball


    Well said and thanks for keeping it real. It feels like I am in a Whizard of oz type dream something when I read these comments. I read a comment where someone wrote “Hightower for President”….What the Heck?!?!??!

  65. By TBru on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    Don’t forget, Beanie has a history of fumbling too. Yes we have to fix the problem, but maybe in the interim make sure the ten other guys on the field are vigilant and not give up on any play and be alert that they may need to be able to recovery a fumble if necessary.

  66. By Tyrelle on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    I’m sure they got a good laugh with Seattle beating the 49ers. They were expected to win the division. This team can play better and do you think we can beat the Falcons, Sunday?

  67. By kauaicardsfan on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    Hey Darren,
    Just curious but will Stephen williams be Doucet’s replacement cause of the injury?
    Also some how Komar doesnt look like he has the break away speed to make good run backs on Special teams not to mention putting quite a bit of balls on the ground.
    I’ll take an Ugly Win over a Beautiful lost any day but we cant do that against good teams, luckily its the 1st game.

  68. By Darren Urban on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    Kauai —

    Not sure how the Cards will replace Doucet in the short term. Maybe Komar. Maybe Breaston in the slot and S. Williams on the outside.

  69. By dan on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    Fitz isn’t healthy, a few of those balls would have been perfect, blame at least 5 of those on Fitz.

  70. By Brad ONeill on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    i watched the game twice and i am convinced that derek is a lot better than his stats show. if you take away the throws sent to fitzgerald we win this game easy. The problem was with fitzgerald not derek. his timing just wasn’t there. i am not sayiing derek is perfect he isn’t. But you have to be honest when you evaluate these things and the qb and reciever were not on the same page.

    The breaston play to save the touchdown was awesome but our offense looked exhausted after moving the ball only to have to start back at the twenty after so many futile drives. I am proud of them for winning this game. This was a game that would have been easy to lose after so much went wrong. they showed great character and guts in this one.

    Max komar is a rookie in his first nfl game. he looked great all preseason and we never saw him drop a ball until the big lights came on. I think he will make up for his bad game if he gets another opportunity.

    hightower- it doesnt matter if they aren’t fumbles in the eyes of everyone but the ref. He needs to hold on to the ball and this performance should cost him carries if not his starting roll.

  71. By TUCARDS on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    Love the Cardiac Cards line. I think Defense will be in the Top 3 in NFL. What can you say for Porter….Great interception…Maybe need to run the hills. That will help in turning those interceptions into points. Fitz should probably sit out the next game. When you have to jump, and cut back for under/over thrown balls, that will have an overall effect on the Knee recovery. Breason has shown he can step up to the plate and be a playmaker. What can be said about Anderson? Get it together. Good quarterbacks in this league complete at least 60% of their passes. I am still on the bubble with Anderson. I hope for the Cardinals, he improves. We need the veteran presence out there.

  72. By Hector V. on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    didn’t matt get dumped for bad play and not being able to throw the rock down the field, but d.a. did the same thing, and he is our qb and he was lucky the rams defense can’t catch balls thrown to them. qb needs to get better and quick other wise its going to be a long season, no sugar coating d.a. play any more we know he stinks

  73. By AndyM on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    Darren, how you keep your sanity and have the energy to do this is a mystery. Thanks, so much

    Y’all, take the win and move on. Anderson, Komar and Hightower will all be okay. Next week, someone else will have problems. The biggest concern for me is whether Larry will have an ongoing health issue–or worse. I had a partially torn MCL and it took 18 months to fully heal. He obviously didn’t look right and was limping by the end of the game. Hopefully, Doucet’s groin injury is not too bad because we could get pretty thin at receiver, pretty quickly.

    For all the “Max Hall for President” people: he is just one hit away from getting a shot. He has the “it” factor, but he ain’t ready. Can’t help but root for the guy, though.

  74. By Franklin on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    ML would have picked this team apart! If you just want what’s best “for the team “, then TH should be released and you pick-up a veteran runner.

  75. By Mandy on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    Can someone please buy or tell Derek Anderson to wear a decent shirt when doing post game interviews……..You can wear whatever you want, but man, it looked like he found that on the floor. ….lol…

  76. By Jasper Buckleman on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    Why are so many people calling for Max Hall? He throws like a girl. I think he has a bright future, and he made some really smart plays and decisions, but he needs to learn how to throw. The passes he was completing during the preseason are going to get batted down and intercepted against a first string defense. Give him a year or two, at least.

    Anderson looked like a quarterback desperately trying to find a rhythm with an injured wide out. It wasn’t going to happen. Especially with him getting drilled on every play. I know the Rams blitzed a lot, but the O-line is going to have figure something out there.

  77. By D ryans on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    Darren, switch Bradford and Anderson the Cards still win. I hope Hall is close to ready he is the #2 and Derrk, much like leinart doesnt move well and takes a lot of hits.

  78. By Ross on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    Darren, i wanted to respond to the person who asked who said “timmy for president”

    i did.

    I can’t help but root for him. He is a humble guy who works his butt off to acheive what he has.

    I will still root for him.

    Just wish he wouldn’t fumble. ahhh it kills me.

  79. By Scott H on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    Thoughts on the game…

    – glad they won. I can only hope they can be much better on both sides of the ball, but…whatever. A lackluster win in St Louis sure beats a loss, period.

    – Overall, Anderson played well. But how do you miss Fitzgerald 12 out of 15 times??? Fitzgerald is DEFINITELY a guy you can miss and he’ll still make most of the catches. WTF…it’s hard to overlook that, but I have to believe this will improve with time and them working together.

    – Doucet injured again. Is he ever going to be anything but injured??? Will he ever play two games in a row??? It’s a shame, but…

    – C’MON, TIMMY…DAMN!!! Hold onto the ball!!! I swear, every time I try to start loving this guy, he puts it on the carpet AGAIN. He’s a heck of a player but if he keeps fumbling at key points in games, he’s just gonna go a long way toward keeping Beanie’s spot warm until he returns.

    – great to see Rhodes come up aith what SHOULD be a game-clinching interception. Too bad Timmy gave it right back on the next play and forced us to sweat out the last few minutes. Why is it never easy? Why can’t these guys ever just put another team away and seal the coffin? Seems like the coffin is always open and the would-be dead body just keeps fighting to rise from the grave!

    – Steve Breaston looked great!!! Maybe Fitz should put on a Breaston jersey next week…that way, maybe Anderson will hit him more often.

    – Is Wilson OK??? Looked he was having trouble getting up after the INT at the end of the game…if yesterday was any indication of his intentions this year, watch out! That man was on a mission.

  80. By Darren Urban on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    Scott H —

    Is Wilson OK? So disappointed you’re not reading …

  81. By Scott H on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    Franklin –

    Release TH and pick up a veteran runner? Really? Boy, that’s brilliant….do you care to provide a list of the “veteran” runners who have evaded every team in the NFL to this point and are just waiting to come in a make the Cardinals better right now? C’mon, man. I know Timmy’s tendency to fumble is annoying but think before you speak, please.

  82. By Scott H on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    Darren –

    OK, sorry! No, I did not read and that’s my bad. I shall drop and give you 20, and never again doubt that you are, indeed, all over this s%&#.

  83. By Scott H on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    trigidy –
    Just stop with the “Boldin Who” crap. And, by the way, try at least spelling his name right. We can be thrilled with Steve Breaston without disrespecting Q, can’t we? That’s just wrong.

  84. By Thomas77 on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    The Cards definitely did not look clean yesterday, that’s for sure. But I’m not entirely worried, actually. I mean, some of the other high octane teams sputtered offensively this first week also. Green Bay didn’t look so good at first. Eventually they started to click though. What about the Saints? The Vikings? Even the Texans pass attack didn’t put up big numbers (even if Arian Foster went buck wild). I’m willing to give these guy’s another week or so, along with more reps between Anderson and Fitz, before worrying about our offense. Although, we sure coulda used Beanie today. I know LSH filled in nicely, but Beanie coulda played a nice roll today….

  85. By Thomas77 on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    …oh, and forgive my fr-izz-ench, but Steve Breaston is the sh-izz-it!!

  86. By tyman on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    Great game, Great win. Terrible refs, how many holds were there on joey porter? Same old, same old. D played good enough to get us the win but everyone will have to step it up next week to get the win. Good job though not letting the bad calls turn the game around. Go Cards

  87. By Eazy E on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    Way to grind it out. Derek took some serious shots but kept getting back up. Hightower has to hold on to the ball, I agree, but give atogwe credit for a great punch against the ball to knock it out, not making excuses but a hell of a play by atogwe. The second was clearly down by contact, come on refs. Fitz and DA will improve their timing and chemistry but they did have the game winning td pass and catch. Breaston is a football player, had a great game with 7 catches and 132 yards, but that hustle and strip is already one of the plays of the year. Komar definately had the rookie jitters, 3 fumbles(1 lost) and the last one was a crucial one in the red zone, OUCH!!!! I thought early was injured because i barely saw him in the game. The rams did blitz a lot but o-line as a whole got DA hit a little too much. Levi had a false start, deuce had a holding penalty, and big brandon keith didn’t have a good game at all. Chris Long beat him too many times. 2 sacks allowed ain’t horrible, but that second one could’ve been a killer when keith got beat. Defense played fantastic, calais and a-wil had the 2 sacks. Run Defense against steven jackson was great. Bradford was under duress all game long. Toler was definately targeted and held up fairly well. My boy DRC gets bored over there getting the ”nnamdi” treatment, but he got to get involved in other ways such as run support, because he did have 5 tackles, so he was involved in supporting the run. He’ll get passes thrown his way though, he’s too good. Both our safeties played well, kerry had the pick that should have been it until that horrible fumble the refs called that was down by contact. A-Wil has 2 picks, a sack, and a blocked kick, man is he a great football player. Fantastic performance by our defense. I do believe we need a true PR, even if that’s all the guy can do is punt return and play special teams. Big win in the division.

  88. By Dre on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply

    I think we should go after Mike Vick, there is trouble starting in Philly and we should start making our bid now. Can you imagine Vick as part of our run game…problem solved and he will take Beanie to the next level. His arm looks really strong and we wouldn’t have to worry so much about our line not being great. I think we should make a move on him before we let him go to the 49ers.

    I don’t know why we put ourselves in this quarterback mess in the first place and now it looks like we have to play it out.

    It seems like our defense finally got some attitude…thats a great sign. The biggest issue in the game against the Rams was the turnovers. If we put our defense out like that against a mid to upper level team we lose. I didn’t hear anyone of those guys who fumbled apologize to the defense.

    The line will get better and so will the Fitz & Andreson connection . The only thing is we will have to get use to Anderson’s 50% pass comp. and his interception for every td ratio. Like I said Mike Vick is really making sense to me right now.

  89. By kaleb on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply


    im not trying to spark an argument but first of all i never said start hall. just give him reps. that being said, what could possibly make you think max hall is not ready to play??? i love the style and success whiz brought to the cards and all but he is getting carried away with his stubborn ways. its almost like he has to prove that a player is who HE thought he was by keeping him in the game. for example:
    1. hightower needs to sit on the bench and hold onto the football as tight as he can for that fumble and how loose he was holding it.
    2. max komar had me really exited in preseason, he is a high energy player, and he was just nervous and he will be fine, but in a close game like that its not time to put him out there to lose it for them.. thats too much pressure. thats when u throw breaston out there you know he wouldve jumped right out there no problem.
    3. stop pawning off the lackluster performance of DA on the whole offense and lack of expirience as a “unit” the recievers ran their routes and got open, the offensive line was actually pretty darn good, the only reason that they were getting to the QB is because (a) tunnel vision tim hightower wasnt picking up the blitz at all, he was just standing there, and (b) DA has terrible footwork, speed and is way too stiff in the pocket, he freezes up just like leinart. therefore if you know you are going to stay in the pocket, and you see a blitz pre-snap (he should be paying attention to that) then audible out one slot guy for a hot route. or hurry the heck up and throw a decent pass so that 6 foot 4 pro bowl larry fitzgerald can get his claws on the ball, not that hard.

    conservative style offesnes are more effective with a veteran offense, which we pretty much had with warner, boldin and edge james before they left, now we have a very young offense to work with meaning you have to change things up, like maybe a play action deep pass on 2nd and 2 after an 8 yard run on first down. its NOT about just moving the chains now DA. whiz and the cards, and the FANS need to see more production, because being a die hard FAN im not ready to see our team fade away because we want to let this “poised” pea shooter throw spit balls at larrys feet some more. its time to pull your head out of your third point of contact and do what it takes to win, PLAY who wants to win. because until i see different, forget what the “experts” say. we are winners. lets go CARDS.

  90. By Darren Urban on Sep 14, 2010 | Reply

    Kaleb —

    Let me reverse the question: What makes you think Hall is ready to play?

  91. By kaleb on Sep 13, 2010 | Reply


    mike vick is the max hall of the eagles (except he got to play)
    kevin kolb looked almost as bad as DA and andy reid, much like whiz does not want the image of making a bad decision with mcnabb, or in whiz case, swapping leinart for DA.
    therefore, the eagles will not be dealing vick any time soon, in fact he may be the starter by week 3, i just wish the cardinals were that proactive in their QB situation.

  92. By cardsalltheway on Sep 14, 2010 | Reply

    Whiz-in-consistent-hunt plays the injured or 75% Larry Fitzgerald but doesn’t play Beannie Wells. On Beannie…”We don’t want to see this come up in the 12th, or 13th week.” Okay I understand Whiz-in-consistent-hunt but do you want to see Larry Fitzgerald’s injury linger on all season???

  93. By Thomas77 on Sep 14, 2010 | Reply


    I’m inclined to think that Whiz didn’t want, and prolly had no intentions, to sit Beanie. I’m thinking he was wanting Beanie to play all week. I’m sorta suspecting that Beanie “couldn’t” practice cause of knee pain, and since Whiz won’t play people who haven’t practiced that week, he chose to sit him out. As far as why Whiz waited until the last minute to announce Beanie’s inactive status? Well, we should all know by now that Whiz never tips his hand. He always waits till the last minute on stuff like this, to keep the opposition guessing. I’m thinking the only way he would have definitively marked Beanie as inactive at the beginning of the week, or anytime before gameday, is if he actually had some sort of injury that medical records could prove and that would obviously force Beanie to actually miss time. Just my opinion.

  94. By D ryans on Sep 14, 2010 | Reply

    Hall is ready to play, thats why whiz made him the #2 and said Max is likely upset he was not starting. I would like Darren and any other doubters to read Hall’s bio. He has been a leader on the field since his Toro days in high school winning several awards throughout his career. Jason B. writes that “Max throws like a girl.” If that is true than maybe the NFL should let girls play because I’d take Hall over D A all day long, he is a better fit for the Cards style. All of this talk will be for not because D A barely made it through the Rams game, he got rocked. I expect to see Max by week 4 in Qualcomm. Several rookies start every year and are only successful by the team surrounding them. Example Mark Sanchez, Matt Ryan, both made the playoffs as rookies, both alot younger than Max. Darren that is why he is ready. Will he be successful? Lets find out.

  95. By Darren Urban on Sep 14, 2010 | Reply

    D Ryans —

    I hope Hall can play. I am glad Max has fans, and I’d expect nothing less when he is playing for the hometown team. But even Whisenhunt has said the hype around Hall needs to be slowed a little. It’s great to be a fan, but let’s pump the brakes a little bit here. A quick FYI, everyone who makes it to this level was a star in high school and most were stars in college. That means nothing in itself.

  96. By NotSOfast on Sep 14, 2010 | Reply

    This might be pushing the line a little bit but I will at least ask the question. Does anyone think that Coach Whiz might not always play the best players? (As he always says the best player will play) Does he show that he has “His Guys”?
    Position # 1
    NT – Robinson – Williams – Watson
    Does anyone else think that Robinson should coaching the younger guys from the sidelines?

    Position # 2
    RB – Hightower – Wells
    After last week don’t you think Wells should be the starter?

    Position # 3
    QB – Anderson – Lienart – Hall
    Anderson might of had a bad week but, to support me on this: Did any one here what Q said about Lienart and Whiz relationship? (Google it)

    Position # 4
    RG – Wells – Latui
    Really it takes 4 weeks to show that Latui was better then Wells?

    These are just a few thoughts that I had and wanted to see if this could lead to trouble down the road if we do not keep winning? Any thoughts!

  97. By Darren Urban on Sep 14, 2010 | Reply

    NotSo —

    RE: Whiz’s “guys”

    See, this is what cracks me up. This isn’t fantasy football. There are real human beings involved in this game — not just Whiz, but in the players he must coach and motivate. In fantasy football, you simply move the most talented players to the lineup. You don’t have to care how hard they are working, or if they are breaking rules by missing their target weight, etc. You can’t just play that game.

  98. By kaleb on Sep 15, 2010 | Reply

    what harm could come from giving him a drive or two just to see if his comfort level matches what he showed in the pre-season. and if he is then he has all the tools to be a lethal QB with dynamic footwork, a good arm, good vision… oh and not to mention a few weapons in the huddle with him.

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