Hall named starting QB

Posted by Darren Urban on October 6, 2010 – 10:25 am

The Cardinals are just getting practice started today to begin the week right now, and while coach Ken Whisenhunt is expected to formally announce his starting quarterback publicly after practice, a source has told it will be rookie Max Hall who will be taking first-team snaps today and will lead the team against the Saints Sunday.

It’s not a huge surprise. I even noted right after the game I expected Hall to get the start. It just seemed to me the Cardinals had seen what they were going to see out of Derek Anderson. I’m sure Whisenhunt will be talking a lot about this after practice, including his reasons. And Hall will get a full week to prepare for the blitzing ways of Saints defensive coordinator Gregg Williams.

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  1. By MIKEFLORIO on Oct 6, 2010 | Reply

    OMG YES finally whiz makes a decison. I like get that kid in there and fling the ball to fitz!!!!! great reporting urb!!! finally something to boost about,

  2. By phoenixraven1 on Oct 6, 2010 | Reply

    I like DA but I am glad for this move…we have to see what we have in Hall. But really it is all moot if the O line allows 9+ sacks again…

    Will we be seeing any O line changes (bring on Bridges or Hadnot please!)

    thx for the update!

  3. By 98CardsFan on Oct 6, 2010 | Reply

    so it begins…

  4. By Tino on Oct 6, 2010 | Reply

    I think this is a great move Hall is accurate and he can scramble. Fitzgerald just needs some balls that are close. The o line needs to block !!! Anderson sux he needs to be cut and I think Jeff Garcia would be a great back up to hall, to teach him.

  5. By Hugecardsfan on Oct 6, 2010 | Reply

    Finally! The Max Hall era has begun. Go cards!

  6. By Tyrelle on Oct 6, 2010 | Reply

    Thank you! Now are they going to shuffle the oline and bench some of them??????

  7. By Old Man Riva on Oct 6, 2010 | Reply

    When the Cards cut Matt Leinart loose, I was puzzled why he didn’t get an opportunity to lead the 1st team for a few games at least. Even if he and the coach couldn’t see eye to eye, the team had spent several years grooming him to replace Kurt Warner. With Leinart gone, our QB spot was a vet who had never worked with our receivers or coaching staff, plus had a reputation for being eratic and two unproven rookies. Didn’t make any sense to me and still doesn’t. Now we are a 2-2 team, soon to be 2-3 with an undrafted rookie starting for us. Wow! How quickly times change.

  8. By Justin on Oct 6, 2010 | Reply


  9. By Chad on Oct 6, 2010 | Reply

    Does Coach Whisenhunt feel they can win with Hall? I mean obviously they feel they can win better with him opposed to DA, but are they looking to still realistically win the NFC West or has this season become a grooming season for Hall?

    I’m surprised Skelton isn’t in the mix since he has all the physical tools (so I’ve heard) for the future. Is Hall our future now? The “Franchise QB?”

  10. By Jedihillis on Oct 6, 2010 | Reply

    Here we go

  11. By Card's Refugee on Oct 6, 2010 | Reply

    Oh boy! We are placing our season hopes on an undrafted rookie free agent. Well can you say rebuilding year.

  12. By Dave Kovach on Oct 6, 2010 | Reply

    Thus begins the “MAD MAX” era.

  13. By bobF on Oct 6, 2010 | Reply

    Not necessarily the best game to start him, but we need to see how he can do.

    I hope the O-line steps up on this one.

  14. By caseymcr on Oct 6, 2010 | Reply

    can we say yes its about time i think hall is a lot more acurate than d a maybe he can even get a few more balls close to fitz as long as they are close he can catch them great move coach wiz oh and just out of curiosity darren what are some of the player reactions to this move has it helped give them some more life

  15. By Darren Urban on Oct 6, 2010 | Reply

    Caseymcr —

    RE: Player reax

    Haven’t had a chance to talk to anyone yet.

  16. By nor cal cards fan on Oct 6, 2010 | Reply

    The reality is, it doesn’t matter who the Qb is if the O-Line can’t block anybody and the defense can’t stop anybody. It’s Football 101..I learned it in Pop Warner.

  17. By Judy on Oct 6, 2010 | Reply

    Thank God for this.I was beginning to dread going to the games.It has been hard to watch Anderson struggle.I feel bad for him,but i want to see what Max can do.I think Max will be on another mission.

  18. By smack28 on Oct 6, 2010 | Reply

    Just wonderful, I have my Sundays back now. I have no plan to watch this train wreck take place. I know I seem negative, but my gosh this guy was not even drafted. Am I the only one thinking this is a bigger mistake than promoting DA to a starter? Trades are happening in the NFL. Is there any way we can pry someone loose from another team like Kellen Clemens, Jason Campbell, or Brady Quinn? Or, what about signing Jeff Garcia or even Jemarcus Russell? As you can tell, I am grasping for straws here. Darren is there any news or whispers of possible trades or signings? This can’t be this organization’s plan at QB for the rest of the year.

  19. By Darren Urban on Oct 6, 2010 | Reply

    Smack28 —

    RE: Moves

    Whisenhunt said Monday there has been no consideration given to bringing in another QB.

  20. By shaun-o on Oct 6, 2010 | Reply

    ya dude… i knew they would listen… i said it over and over just start max hall in for one game and see how good his talents are… whats it gonna hurt… one game, big deal we will pick up the rest. Anderson needs to go… i can see he doesnt care about his team, by the looks of it. max hall will do good, he is from here and all he wants to do is play in his home team… ARIZONA… good job max keep it up… smoke the saints like they did to us last year… YA DUDE

  21. By David C. on Oct 6, 2010 | Reply

    Any chance Derek Anderson could be cut and replaced with a more seasoned veteran backup (i.e. Jeff Garcia, Daunte Culpepper, etc.)?

  22. By Darren Urban on Oct 6, 2010 | Reply

    David C —

    RE: Anderson cut


  23. By Eric on Oct 6, 2010 | Reply

    Here’s your chance rookie, now let’s hope he pans out and we don’t need to draft a QB with the 5th pick in next years draft.

  24. By BeatSF! on Oct 6, 2010 | Reply

    It is the right move. You’ve got to give the fans and players hope for the future! Good cal Whiz.

  25. By redseafan85 on Oct 6, 2010 | Reply

    yes! This is the first step to the right path go hall! Go big red!

  26. By dan on Oct 6, 2010 | Reply

    Bring in Leinart………nice move Coach. Hope Whiz’s foot feels better soon after blowing it off.

  27. By Az Bombers11 on Oct 6, 2010 | Reply

    So brings the Max Hall ara..Good luck kid…Trust Whiz guys..

  28. By Kramer on Oct 6, 2010 | Reply

    The Cardinals should try to acquir Bulger. He is an accurate down field passer and, when he has good receivers, he gets the ball out of his hand pretty quick. He’s the only one I can think of that would transition easily with the offensive schemes we run.

  29. By Unzipped on Oct 6, 2010 | Reply

    The only move. I hope they stick with him and add Jeff Garcia before the bye to back him up. By the way Darren, do you think Derek Anderson is hot or cold right now?


  30. By kauaicardsfan on Oct 6, 2010 | Reply

    Good Luck Max!!!

  31. By rmg372 on Oct 6, 2010 | Reply

    IF he is given time I hope he doesnt “leave any big plays on the field”.

  32. By Ottis Anderson Fan on Oct 6, 2010 | Reply

    Talk about trial by fire. Fortunately, Hall will get an entire week of practice as the #1 QB so he can be better prepared than he was in basically mop-up duty against the Chargers. I think Hall gets a free pass making his starting debut against the defending World Champions.

    I think this is the point Whiz expected to reach at some point in the season after he cut Leinart and named Anderson starter. Whiz really gushed about Hall in the preseason (well, by Whiz’s standards at least) and you knew he knew that DA wasn’t a long-term solution. Whiz’s final preseason moves were a way to buy some additional time for the rookie to develop before Anderson inevitably proved has was nothing better than a career backup QB not even suitable for the Cleveland Browns. With Leinart no longer available as a backup — and no QB controversy to worry about — the job falls to Hall – the guy Whz wanted to develop after Hall impressed with his attitude and play in training camp.

    It won’t be easy for sure, and quite possibly not work out with Hall. But I’d rather see the team invest it’s time developing a young QB with lots of upside instead of a veteran who has proven himself over and over as nothing better than a hardly serviceable backup who can only complete 50% of his passes.

    I’m guessing Fitz (and probably a lot of others) have a spring in their step at practice today that they didn’t have last week at this time. I know I do. The future is now.

  33. By azfaninwisco on Oct 6, 2010 | Reply

    Well I hope, even if Hall does not do well, that he does not turn back to DA. This is one area I have always disagreed on with Whiz, open competition at QB. I can see in camp and Maybe ONE game into pre-season. But a decision needs to be made and stuck with for the guy who touches the football on every offensive play of the game! I was shocked that Whiz decided after a few months with DA that he could lead the offense better than Lienhart. I’ve never been a fan of DA, or in that case any QB with a “big arm” that has no finesse. Again, I just hope Whiz is willing to go through the growing pains with Max.

  34. By Mojo on Oct 6, 2010 | Reply

    Good luck Max
    Go Whiz I am a believer no matter what. I hate all the negative media and fans I will not turn my back on Ken for couple of bad games. We need to show support and back this team up. Go Cards…

  35. By Vegas Cardinal on Oct 6, 2010 | Reply

    GOOD LUCK MAX!! Slap that O-line around and make sure they got your back!! Looking forward to better game then last week!

  36. By dynosoar on Oct 6, 2010 | Reply

    Max Hall is the winningest quarterback in BYU history. I liked his fire and drive to get into the endzone durring pre-season.

    I know everyone says in pre-season he played against the 3rd string defense, but he also played with the 3rd string offense. He should do well.

    I’d like to see more of Beanie Wells, but when I look at the stats for Tim and Beanie, Tim has 5.5 yards per carry to Beanies 4.9 and 2 touchdowns (and a third if not for a holding penalty) to Beanie’s 0. Tim also has an 80 yard run to Beanie’s longest of 24. I’m fine with Tim Hightower starting.

  37. By neil on Oct 6, 2010 | Reply

    I haven’t seen enough to fully judge him, but give him a year as a starter and he could be the cardinals Matt Ryan. He has great poise in the pocket, he does not lock onto one reciever, and I think he has a great arm!

  38. By Jim in Missouri on Oct 6, 2010 | Reply

    As always, thanks for all that you do, Darren.

    The 2 things that immediately spring to mind are:

    1) I’m surprised they didn’t decide to do this until after the bye week. Aside from having extra time to get Hall ready (or as ready as he’s going to be), throwing a rookie against the defending Super Bowl champs, and a defense that has at least a reputation for taking cheap shots at QBs is a curious move, in my view. I hope he’s mentally tough, because if he does get abused by the Saints on Sunday, it could leave a lasting impact on him.

    2) In response to the “this is who Derek Anderson is” argument with accuracy problems and interceptions, the company line has always been to say they thought they saw things in him and they could coach him up to be better. Apparently they’ve either given up on their ability to coach him up, or they’re admitting that this really is who Derek Anderson is. That doesn’t speak well for either the ability of this coaching staff, or the evaluation process of this coaching staff, no? I’d like to see someone step up and admit their mistakes.

  39. By AaronG on Oct 6, 2010 | Reply

    Oh my Gosh. Here we go. Every Cards fan out there, be patient. This team will be good this year. Its surprising that Coach is turning to Max so soon. But rookies can be successful. IE Sanchez for Jets, Bradford for the Rams.

  40. By carlo7000 on Oct 6, 2010 | Reply

    do you think porter can be just a situational pass rusher.i mean he doesn have so much left and even if we dont have so much depth i think is time to let somebody come in and play

  41. By Darren Urban on Oct 6, 2010 | Reply

    Carlo —

    RE: Porter


  42. By Craig on Oct 6, 2010 | Reply

    This kid has the stuff, if we can get just one player to believe in him, others will follow.
    Give them hell MAX!

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  44. By John on Oct 6, 2010 | Reply

    Hopefully this move will force the coaches to design a more run-oriented offense that can take advantage of the few chances down the field (when present) necessary to win.

    I wonder if Warner could be wooed out of retirement next season for 1 yr to buy the team time to find a “permanent starter”?

    I’m still scratching my head over how the Cardinals let McNabb go to the Redskins…

  45. By Big Red Wildcat on Oct 6, 2010 | Reply

    Sadly, I think this is a last-ditch effort by Whiz to fill the seats in the stadium. Start a local boy, who has little or no chance to succeed, and hope to squeeze one or two more sellouts out of the fanbase.

  46. By Gang6230 on Oct 6, 2010 | Reply

    Good deal I believe this is a good move. It’s always better to coach a young player than the old veteran who thinks they have it figured out.
    Also I want to say to all the fans of this team. Let go of the past Warner is the past. He is not coming back. And this team is bigger than one man. Either you support the team. Win or loose or quit calling yourself a fan I have been watching this team since 1975 when they played a championship against the Vikings. The late Jim hart was qb. They lost. But ever since Iiked these birds. Great move. Hall will do excellent

  47. By RED BIRD 66 on Oct 6, 2010 | Reply

    Hopefully the O line and the D can step it up this week for Hall. If they play like they have been it’s going to be ugly. The Saints have had some problems with the run this year so hopefully it is close so we can actually test our running game. Feed Beanie and Hightower the ball and hopefully that will slow the blitz and open up some passing. Hopefully 90 shows up this week and 55 can back up that big mouth. Does Skelton go to #2 or are we stuck with Anderson, I don’t really see the point of keeping him around now as I am sure he is pouting about it.

  48. By Darren Urban on Oct 6, 2010 | Reply

    Red Bird —

    RE: Anderson

    I expect him to be No. 2. And I don’t expect him to pout. He’s dealt with this before.

  49. By Former Steeler Fan on Oct 6, 2010 | Reply

    It makes no difference who the QB is as long as the Cards have the same O-line personnel.

    The losses will keep coming.

  50. By Stuart on Oct 6, 2010 | Reply

    I’m deffinetly happy to hear about this decision. My whole delima is Max is still a rookie, I just hope he can do a Sam Bradford, or a Mark Sanchez and develope and learn as a QB fast.

    So Darren if you would show this message to the team. I know it probably won’t happen but hey some fan motivation right. DEFFENCE: Look guys you are a power house of talent, so COME ON MAN! Step it up PLEASE! You guy’s should be ranked up there with Ravens, Steelers and Jets, hell even ranked higher then them just do one huge favor for the entire RED SEA of Fans out there, Remove Head from Butt come together as a Deffence and SMASH the other football team every hit, alway’s remember that after you hit someone the only thing that should be playing in your head afterwards is HERE COMES THE BOOM!!!!!

    OFFENCE: O-Line really once again COME ON MAN!!!!! Play some football and do your job that pays you big money. Protect your QB and Make some dnag holes for Timmy and Bennie. Max step up to the plate realize you in the NFL now and learn quick or your ganna die out there man. To our WR’s; Stop playing with so much fustration and play with that passion we all know you have as fans. Put some hurting on the opposing Deffence and let them know they see or defend you, your the best WR’s in the NFL. Dang it play like it and go after the Ball. To Timmy and Bennie, Fight and keep fighting for every single yard possiable and when you feel like stopping and like you can’t do it anymore, drive it even harder and smash that football down the throut’s of the opposing deffence.

    This is how we as the RED SEA fans see it. I hope the entire locker room can read this.

  51. By Ed on Oct 6, 2010 | Reply

    For those who wanted to see Max get the start… Like they say, “the grass is always greener until you get there.”

    I hope he succeeds but he’s missing Breaston & Doucet so Larry will get double and triple teamed. Boldin’s gone (huge mistake) and the rest are unproven receivers. Without Beanie at 100%, the defense really needs to step up and keep this a low scoring game. There’s no way this years Cardinals can win a high scoring game against the Saints.

  52. By Tony on Oct 6, 2010 | Reply

    Now make changes on the O line and we WILL score points!!! The Defense is another thing, but I guess it’s one step at a time. And for the rebuilding year…I don’t think the Cardinals should have to rebuild they should be reloading. We’ve established ourselves as a winning team and should continue it no questions asked.

  53. By John rennecamp on Oct 6, 2010 | Reply

    Great move!!! Max may make rookie mistakes but Anderson was making rookie errors and he’s a 6 year vet.

    ALSO platoon Faneca and Hadnot , replace Keith with Bridges, give Davis and Walker more time to spell Porter and Haggans. Keep A-Dub away from the TE and GIVE BEANIE THE BALL!!!!

    It’s all well and good to have Tim get touches he’s a good back but Beanie has got to be the man!!

  54. By NYCARDSFAN on Oct 6, 2010 | Reply

    Dear O-line, Please dont let what happened to Trent Edwards when he was young, happen to Max Hall. Keep an eye out for all the “Adrian Wilsons” or we will be doomed for sure. Thank you, All Arizona Cardinals Fans.

  55. By John rennecamp on Oct 6, 2010 | Reply

    Aside from Minnesota, Dallas and New Orleans our schedule is favorable. 7 more home games, KC,T Bay and ST Louis are on the rise but unproven.
    I can’t see anyone in this division being too much for us.

    We have the talent – we have to cut down on turnovers, penalties and mental errors. Look at the Rams! Does anyone really think they are more talented?? No , they are 2-2 because they are playing smart with a rookie QB!

    WE CAN DO IT TOO!!!!!!!!!

  56. By R Robles on Oct 6, 2010 | Reply

    Old Man Riva Kurt was undrafted too Hall has alot of potential we just need to support him. OK now all the band wagon people who just jumped on after the super bowl time DO NOT boo our team if we are losing we do not need you NEGATIVE responses. GET OUTTA THE STADIUM PLEASE!!!!!!!!. We know who are real fans are & we support are team win or lose.

  57. By jocards on Oct 6, 2010 | Reply

    We’re starting an undrafted rookie QB against the Super Bowl champions…Gulp! The Saints and Greg Williams are already dialing up the blitz packages. Let’s hope the O-Line can turn things around and provide at least a little protection. Obviously the entire team will need to raise the level of play if we’re to stay on the field with New Orleans. I look for a lot of 3 step drops and get the ball out in a hurry. Man this should be interesting…Not sure I am in love with this decision but I wish Max Hall the best. Go Cardinals!

  58. By Magee on Oct 6, 2010 | Reply

    That job is yours for the taking kid, take it!

    The next time our defense gives up 41 points we need to take a look at who’s doing their job and who isn’t.

  59. By Matt in Philly on Oct 6, 2010 | Reply

    I am delighted by this decision. Here are my other thoughts:

    – I’m a bit surprised at this. In the past, Whiz has wasted no time in games switching out QBs, but he has always been a little more hesitant to change out the starter. Remember when he had Warner and even Rattay rotating in from time to time. But even then, it took an injury to Matt Leinart for him to pull the trigger on making the move to change who was starting.

    – Because of that, I wonder if this was sort a planned all along. I don’t mean that Whiz released Leinart, let DA start knowing he would stink, all so he could get Hall in there. I mean that maybe he liked Hall SOOOO much, that he felt that he was the guy he wanted in there if all else failed. Which it did.

    – Great move for keeping the fans interested. Even if this season does wash out (it most certainly will if the defense can’t stop any legitimate offense), at least we’ll be able to watch our future leader at QB grow into the role. I can’t wait for Sunday.

    PS. Will the Saints score 100 points this game. I mean, everyone knows they have the offense. But they’ve also got a good defense that’s capable of taking the ball from you. And with a rookie in there, they’re going to have an easier time wrenching the ball from us.

  60. By mark King on Oct 6, 2010 | Reply

    I am always amazed about the vast number of comments regarding the ‘undrafted’ status of HMax Hall implying it must be evidence of incompetence. Quarteracks are the most difficult position to evaluate as to whether a particular one will transition effectively to the NFL. Does anyone remember a certain grocery clerk who ended up taking two separate teams to the Super Bowl? Hall may not work out however the NFL history is full of examples of the unheralded QBs becoming huge successes and ‘sure-thing’ college QBs becoming huge busts. Lighten up folks. Get behind this team and stop the empty rhetoric. Go Cards!

  61. By brad O'Neill on Oct 6, 2010 | Reply

    derek will be a good backup and hopefully they will continue to work with him on improving with his decision making. He has a lot of positive attributes to his game, fearlessness, rocket arm, and a lot of toughness. the accuracy may in fact be his footwork, i dont know but its hard to change your mechanics. as soon as things go wrong you want to revert back to old habits.

    Derek will be back in a game at some point this season, even if it is only to rest hall before the playoffs in week 17 against the 9ers. I hope he keeps working hard and progresses because i think he really could be a wicked weapon in this league.

  62. By Kevin S on Oct 6, 2010 | Reply

    4 games in and already throwing in the towel and playing for next year. The Super Bowl is over. Back to the same ole Cardinals. Putting Hall out there with no protection is going to kill his career. Can you say David Carr.

  63. By darrel on Oct 6, 2010 | Reply

    So what’s next skelton

  64. By He's open on Oct 6, 2010 | Reply

    Does this mean i can stop yelling – FITZ IS OPEN!!! , NUMBER 11 .. RIGHT THERE !!!!!! … Oh my GOD !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Cause i think my neighborhood thinks im insano

  65. By jdcrow59 on Oct 6, 2010 | Reply

    Now that the move has been made let’s hope that they stay with Hall sink or swim. Give him the rest of the season and who know’s, maybe he will be the guy who sticks around for the next four or five years. Growing pains are tough but the rewards could be huge down the road. And Darren, thanks for the work you do. It’s nice to have a place for an old man to spout off every once and awhile.

  66. By John on Oct 6, 2010 | Reply

    A few blogs ago someone made a comment about Whiz losing credibility by the minute. At the time I thought it was a bit ridiculous to say that, but Im at the point now that I fully agree with it.

  67. By Jasper Buckleman on Oct 6, 2010 | Reply

    I wouldn’t get too excited about Hall just yet. After the Saints shred the O-line and Hall gets knocked out of the game, Anderson will be right back behind center.

  68. By az526jb on Oct 6, 2010 | Reply

    GO MAX!! I think Max proved himself this pre-season. For those of you scoffing about non drafted QB”S just look at his college record and remember you didn’t get drafted either.

  69. By cardszfan7711 on Oct 6, 2010 | Reply

    Well I agree with the decision, but man, how did we get here? Whiz has earned all of our trust, so I hope this pans out. I am still in shock and disagreement over the cutting of Lienart. I just dont get it. If he was that bad, why did we not go after McNabb or Bulger? He outplayed Anderson in the preseason, and I went to a few practices and saw nothing that Anderson was bringing to the table that would of had me put him in over Matt. I think like Matt said this went beyond performance on the field, which could simply be that Whiz did not feel like Matt is right of this team, so he was willing to roll the dice. My on complaint is why did it take to the final cut of training camp? I would of jumped on Bulger, he is the closest replacement to Warner.

  70. By Michelle on Oct 6, 2010 | Reply

    I think it is a great move letting Max in there this sunday. Ihope he can do well. At this point we have nothing to lose we know what DA brings lets see if Max can out do him. I HOPE SO!! GOOO CARDS!!

  71. By cfansinc75 on Oct 6, 2010 | Reply

    AMEN, R Robles. We’ve seen tougher times!

  72. By Nikko on Oct 6, 2010 | Reply

    Someone needs to get on russ grimm, max can’t do any worse that DA, but the work starts up front!!! I know russ grimm is a hall of famer but he is far from being even a good coach!!! the main problem on the offense is not DA, & believe me until its fixed Hall will deal with the same. Alan fanaca is
    garbage & they traded reggie wells, not to mention he can’t find a way to keep his guys at the right weight. I could go on but yeah, come on mr. hall of famer & do something already cus we been waiting since preseason for u to fix this mess!!!!! & that’s just what I think about the O cus the D is a whole other disaster! Do you agree at all with me??

  73. By Michelle on Oct 6, 2010 | Reply

    I so agree with R Robles let the negative people exit now and lets get this going come on we have been 2-2 before and brought it back. Stop the negativity the cards need us to support them win or lose. of course we hate to see our team lose but come on everyone does that doesnt mean you dog out your team!! GOOO CARDS!!

  74. By NotSOfast on Oct 6, 2010 | Reply

    I Would like to ask where the “In Whiz We Trust” crowd is?

    That was a really good move by the coach to bench Matty for DA.
    I know it was because of leadership and the “desire”. Heaven forbid we play the best player. Like coach always said he will do!
    Now we have an undrafted rookie starting for us!
    Although this is the correct move, we should have never been in this situation!
    Just because the coach did not like someone.
    Please oh please can we get to 6-6 the rest of the way?
    Can we please just start playing smash mouth football with Timmy and Bennie. Like we have been told would happen!

  75. By AndyM on Oct 6, 2010 | Reply

    Darren, I will bet you have seen a lot more of the rapport between Whiz and Hall than the rest of us. It was interesting that the television camera caught an exchange of the two of them after the Cardinals FG and the Cardinals were still down by about 100 points. Coach and QB shared a laugh despite probably both wanting to puke or break something. It seemed to say that Whiz sees something in his young quarterback, that this is neither a publicity stunt or panic move, but a measured change. It also indicates that Hall is “his guy”–at least for now.

    All of us fans want results, but let’s give the kid a chance. Trial by fire this week.

  76. By Former Steeler Fan on Oct 6, 2010 | Reply

    How much say does Whiz have in selecting players in the draft and choosing free agents? I know that Rod and the Bidwills are involved (especially with regard to FAs), but does Whiz’ opinion carry the day?

  77. By Darren Urban on Oct 6, 2010 | Reply

    Former Steeler —

    RE: FA/Draft

    Whiz is involved in all the draft prep. They set a board and usually, the decisions are made before the actual draft. If a guy is there, they take him, with allowances for positions already selected, etc.

    As for FAs, he has a big say in that too, although players are broken down and scouting on multiple levels (including potential contract) and then they target who they want.

  78. By Cardcountry on Oct 6, 2010 | Reply

    This is a great move considering the moves that we are able to make at the time. For all the haters saying that Whiz is just trying to sell out the stadium a couple more times making this move? Give me a break, listen to yourselves talk.For one thing do not think for a second that Derek Anderson was whizes long term qb. Whiz evaluated Lienart and DA and felt Da was the best vet for the job and was hoping that DA could get us through this year or atleast half way through it before inputting Max. Unfortunately we did not get that far.He was hoping this would buy him sometime to develop Max. I believe Whiz is doing the right thing for the TEAM, which is what coaches are supposed to do, not for the fans. He is not excited either about throwing a rookie in their either this soon, but Max is not your typical first year out of college rookie either. Max is extremely accurate, intelligent, and very poised in the pocket and is awesome at keeping his eyes down field no matter how much pressure is in his face or around him. This is the same trait that Warner had. For all the haters that dislike this move or just complain just to hear themselves complain, would you rather see 12 more games just like the previous 4? I didn’t think so! Give the kid a chance and remember its easy to say ” well Whiz should have done this, or that after the fact” Hell a trained monkey can tell you how to fix something after you have already seen the result of waht happened.

    I believe after inputting Max the whole team is going to have a little spark in their step and you will see that Sunday. If the line can give him a little time and we can get a good couple drives going you will see a night and day difference with the defence as well.

    In Whiz I trust! Keep up the good work coach!

  79. By Bill L on Oct 6, 2010 | Reply

    Dirty trick, but one of Whiz’s slim chances. If Hall gets seriously hurt……who should be blamed? I hope the best for Hall, but suspect SD was just a warm-up. Essentially NO training camp and one week to prepare. 6 sacks last week in a game that was over. This could be VERY bad……………but, like I said one of Whiz’s LAST hopes…….Lake Placid or a busted leg(or worse) for Hall.

  80. By Sackman on Oct 6, 2010 | Reply

    Thats what I’m talking about, Good call Whiz. Excited we fans our, the season is now starting and its not over. I bet there will be alot more noise in the house on Sunday. Go Big Red!
    This is a no brainer! Its easier to lose with a rookie than with a 6 year vet. that hasn’t improved in 4 games. The future is alot brighter now with Max Hall. My expectations aren’t that high for his first few games but that said. It’s much higher now that Anderson isn’t the quarterback.
    Only 1 negative thing I need to say is: I am so tired of fans talking about Leinart he is gone, get over it. Think only the present and the future. Every time I read someone writing about Leinart, as soon as I see his name I don’t finish I stop reading it.

  81. By David on Oct 6, 2010 | Reply

    Max Hall is not the future but he will do better than DA well we groom Skelton. I hope to see Max do good, it would be a great story!

  82. By Chris B on Oct 6, 2010 | Reply

    We aren’t winning with DA. The two wins have were wins not thanks to DA.

    What do we have to lose? It would have been a closer game, 21 points for the Cards before half-time, if DA could make the plays he needs to. We have nothing to lose.

    The defense feeds off the offense. Don’t know why, but they do. When the offense gives them a chance, they perform. All they need is that chance.

  83. By stuck in Texas on Oct 6, 2010 | Reply

    Ya baby!!!! I cant wait no matter the out come,From what i saw in the preseason he was the best QB to lead the teem I know it was preseason but i like are chances better with Max.Now we are truly on the way.You will hear me chearing from the boring flat lands of Texas.GO CARDINALS. ThanksDarren

  84. By Brogan Scotch on Oct 6, 2010 | Reply

    I have nothing against DA. i actually think if he buckles down he can be pretty effective. and i have nothing against Max Hall either…im just hoping he actually does well. But i really wanna see more of John Skelton. I liked what i saw against the Texans…but i don’t know. How come it seems like John skelton is just getting overlooked??

  85. By dan on Oct 6, 2010 | Reply

    the O-LINE needs to protect max hall a lot better than last week

  86. By georgiebird on Oct 6, 2010 | Reply

    Thank you for giving us fans a forum to vent. You have done well under the worst of conditions and I admire your ability to keep going. Coming from an older guy, you will look back on these days with the feeling “if I could get through that I can get through anything.
    On Max: I think he’s a special talent -he understands the position. But here’s my reservation. Is Max really 6′ 1″ or is he really 5′ 11” . From what I’ve seen he seems to play smaller than billed. When we drafted Jake and Leinart and got DA;; we were so happy but it seems like those who avoided them were right. And in this case, are those who avoided Max right, again. I think it boils down to the height issue.

  87. By wayne on Oct 6, 2010 | Reply


    I was hoping BEANIE would start this week or next game, but with HALL starting would WHIZ even consider it ? BEANIE is the best runner (just my opinion) but HIGHTOWER is part of heart and soul. If HALL turns out like we all are praying for that is a nice future, QB and RB that is. C’mon DEFENSE get it going or it’s not going to matter at all, even with MANNING we would lose 40-60. I know some you players read these blogs, GET IT GOING!!!


  88. By card62 on Oct 6, 2010 | Reply

    Dear Ed

    I wanted to see Max get this start. Before the season began and during preseason I did not even want Max to see the field all season, and I only wanted him on our practice squad. I think most Cardinal fans felt the same way. Max has been forced upon us in game 5 of the 2010 season by very poor decision at the very top of our team.

    The key to winning this game or being competitive is our defense keeping us in the game just like the Rams defense has been keeping them in games giving Sam Bradford the chance to win games. It does not matter which QB we start our defense is the key so I support the move to give the rookie a chance as Derek Anderson is not getting the job done.

    I have made it clear from the beginning my negative feelings on Derek Anderson and never wanting him on our team, but I hope and still hope I am wrong and Derek proves me wrong, but I try to play the percentages and having Derek as your starter is a very poor percentage play. That said I also think cutting Derek Anderson right now would be a poor percentage move for our team as he is one play away from being our starter and with Russ Grimm & our offensive line it could come as early as Sunday. Many of us fans including me were upset we kept Matt all off season and then dumped him for nothing before the season started. You see we would rather see Matt going in than Max, but we cut Matt so lets not make that mistake again. You see Ed my football grass was much greaner in the preseason and now I am just trying to get out of the mud. Maybe I will and maybe I will not, but I like the percentages with Max over Derek or Skelton and they are my only 3 options on October 6, 2010.

    Dear R. Robies Real fans are emotional about our team, and please call them our team and not are team or Darren will blow a blood vessel.
    Do you really think Cardinal Fans wake up on Sunday morning and say my dear I think I shall put on my Cardinal gear I purchased and my football tickets I purchased and drive 2 hours to the game, pay for parking and food and beverages and then go to the stadium and boo my team loudly. We go win or lose to support our team and watch them play well, but if they play and coach like they did against Atlanta or San Diego they deserve and have earned the wrath of the real fans who will and should let them know exactly how we feel about the product they put on the field. This is how we communicate to our owners and coaches and players when we are displeased, but we go in hope and with every intention of cheering on our team win or lose. We just demand their best efforts.

    Darren thank you for all you do and hopefully you are enjoying all the attention your articles are receiving this year and thank you to all Cardinal fans who take the time to share thoughts, positive & negative & definitely constructive on our team
    Go Cards beat the Saints Steve.

  89. By old cards fan on Oct 6, 2010 | Reply

    here we go “max” your the man now. but i have 1 advice for you and whiz do not stare down or try to force the ball to fitz.they(saints)will be waiting for this from a rookie the o-line please try to protect our qb and pick up the blitz you know its coming. “STUART” I hope the players read your message. RED SEA STAND UP AND PROTECT YOUR HOUSE!

  90. By Big Red on Oct 6, 2010 | Reply

    Hey Gang6230 That game with the Vikings was not a Championship Game it was just a play-off game. Anyway back to Hall, I wish him nothing but Luck and I say give Skelton a chance too.

  91. By Vegas Cardinal on Oct 6, 2010 | Reply


    In the 6th round of the 2000 NFL Draft (199th overall) from Michigan the Patriots select Tom Brady

    An undrafted rookie isn’t too far fetched!! Max has confidence and leadership.. Something we haven’t had since Kurt! Not even the Departed ML had that. I believe in his determination to win lead and prove himself, and maybe the thought will linger in OL head that “Hey we can’t let this guy get his head torn off” Whereas with DA he was big enough to take a few hits!

  92. By Scott H on Oct 6, 2010 | Reply

    Given the choice of seeing more of Anderson and giving one of the young guys a chance, it’s a no-brainer for me. I’ve seen enough of Anderson. Period. I haven’t been on board with Anderson from the beginning. I really wasn’t expecting anything, therefore, I’m not really surprised that he’s been what he’s been. I’m ready to turn this page, and while I maintain that the coaches have done a lousy job of managing this whole QB situation from the start, I applaud the decision to move on from something that just ain’t working.

    I’m excited to see what Hall can do, I really am. If the Cardinals played in any other division, I would basically look at this as a surrendering of the season in order to evaluate for the future. BUT in the NFC West this year??? Hey, anything’s possible. It’s starting to look like 8-8 – maybe even 7-9 – could win this division. Not that that would be anything to write home about, but…whatever.

    It is time for this team to start running the damn ball with the committment that we thought we were going to see since the day Warner retired. I know Beanie’s health held us up a bit, but he’s back and it’s time to get serious about running the ball. Which means it’s time for this O-line to start showing up. They’ve been awful so far, period. As much venom as I’ve slung at Anderson, I have to acknowledge that the O-line has played far below expectations. Beanie SHOULD absolutely make it known that he wants the ball and wants more of a chance to contribute. And maybe, if nothing else, the change at QB will serve notice to the other guys on this team that they could be next if they don’t start kicking it in the ass. And the O-lineman better be getting the message!

    What concerns me more than anything is how all of this might be playing with Fitz right about now. This poor guy has been in QB hell so far this season after enjoying some elite years with true stability at QB. I’m concerned that if this season plays out to the end with no clear indication of who the QB of the future is to be, then how psyched is Fitz gonna be about staying here through his prime years when it might not look very promising for him OR the team??? Anyone else feeling similar concerns?

  93. By Gilbert Card on Oct 6, 2010 | Reply

    I wish all the best to Max!!! I can take rookie mistakes and growing up pains, as long as he puts all his heart into it. Now, hopefully our Offensive Line will stop performing like a freaking revolving door and give this guy a chance. GO CARDS!!!!! GO MAX!!!!!

  94. By LB on Oct 6, 2010 | Reply


    You’d rather sign JaMarcus Russell than give this kid a chance just because he was undrafted? You do realize that the guy who lead us to a miracle catch away from the SuperBowl was undrafted right?

    People get so caught up in known conventions that they forget to see what’s right in front of them. Who cares if he’s undrafted? Who cares if he’s a rookie? He can have one arm, one leg and one eye for all i care, if he’s playing better than the guy ahead of him, then he should be playing, no questions asked.

  95. By TBru on Oct 6, 2010 | Reply

    Good Luck Max

  96. By Eazy E on Oct 6, 2010 | Reply

    Oh Lord well what the heck, can’t be no worse than DA right? I hope not but he is an undrafted rookie so maybe he can be worse than DA and I liked the DA signing and everything but he just missed too many open targets. We need to hit philly up for vick for real NOW!!!

  97. By 14141 max on Oct 6, 2010 | Reply

    yes derek anderson is horrible go max hall

  98. By Nick Pepe on Oct 6, 2010 | Reply

    Darren- I must apologize. I thought these types of fans were only located in the Philadelphia area (“Got their Sundays back,fire the staff, couldnt dread to watch, last ditch effort to fill seats”!!…Super Bowl one day, Titanic the next).
    Do you have any idea how fortunate you “fans” (and I exclude the true fans that stick with and believe) are to have a team that has just missed winning a Super Bowl, is back to back division championships, and has a very good nucleus of pro bowlers (young and old), that know how to play the game on both sides of the ball. And add to that: if our head coach were fired tomorrow, he would have new head coaching job by the weekend.
    If you are fan, your team is 2-2. And if you are a fan and looked at the schedule (without rose colored glasses) at the beginning of the year, with 3 of 4 on the road and two of those 3 against very tough games, you are right where you thought they would be. 2-2. The Saints come to town showing that they are not the same as last year, with all 5 games within a touchdown and frankly not looking sharp coming into the desert. And the Cards better have a chip on their shoulder from last year. This week is more than possible.
    We have run the ball well for 3 weeks and started to run the ball well against the Chargers, called play action at the perfect time and Anderson couldn’t get it done. You have to complete those, you can’t then give the next guy a chance. Don’t read much into the blowouts, games (especially away) can get away from you when the snowball starts.

    Max Hall looks like he has an attitude. Like he thinks he can get it done. I promise you, he will not have the deer in the headlights look that Matt had and for whatever reason, could not shake.
    He (Hall) does not need to be a hero. The running game is good enough to give him an opportunity to take advantage of shots up the field.
    O-Line needs to have a grudge and step up, same as the D. And I believe they will.
    Now a question: Any adjustment on the O-line, namely Haddnot? I apologize in advance if this was addressed and I missed it!!!…..
    Nick Pepe
    Lifetime Member AND proud winner of one very good animal cruelty conviction today!!!! good day.
    P.S. Reggie Wells can’t crack the Eagles starting O-Line and it’s the worst in the league
    P.SS. How them ribs feel Mike??? This ain’t the NCAA, can’t get away with that in this league.

  99. By Jones from IL on Oct 6, 2010 | Reply


    What was Max lacking that he wasn’t drafted?

  100. By Darren Urban on Oct 6, 2010 | Reply

    Jones —

    RE: Hall undrafted

    Don’t know. Height, I suppose. He doesn’t have a rocket arm either.

  101. By diFlavio on Oct 6, 2010 | Reply

    It seems like when Max gets in the huddle he is in “charge”! You can tell he has control; and the “O” is watching and listening to him! Just watch when he is in there, the players seem to move just a little faster and with some emotion! I don’t know how he’ll do but I sure perk up myself when he is in there!
    GO MAX!

  102. By TMac on Oct 6, 2010 | Reply

    The QB situation this year has been a complete fiasco other than they seem to have gotten possibly a decent QB as a free agent of all things. The cut Leinart who was the tenth pick, hoped against hope that DA would improve, traded (basically gave away) Bryant McFadden, and a sixth rounder to move up 40 places to the 5th to take Skelton and now are ending up starting an undrafted free agent. Crazy, and no I’m not happy about it all. I just hope Hall can produce.

  103. By OttisAndersonFan on Oct 6, 2010 | Reply

    Darren –

    You made the right call predicting Hall would get the start. But now you’re going to have to stick by your claim that rookie QBs are “never” saviors. 😉

    Hall gets his first practice as starter and the O-Line has it’s best practice of the regular season that is now five weeks old.

  104. By Darren Urban on Oct 6, 2010 | Reply

    Ottis —

    RE: Hall as savior

    I will gladly offer up mea culpas if I am wrong. It only helps me on multiple levels if Hall turns out to be very good and leads this team to a division title.

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  106. By AndyStandsUp on Oct 6, 2010 | Reply

    I realize the question is impertinent, but is Hall really 5-11?(or Brees for that matter) At training camp, I (5-11) was about 10 yards away from the guy and even with cleats, looked shorter to me.

  107. By Darren Urban on Oct 6, 2010 | Reply

    andyStands —

    RE: Hall height

    He is definitely at least 6-foot/6-1.

  108. By greg on Oct 6, 2010 | Reply

    Hopefully the fans will be more patient with Hall as I believe that he will learn from his mistakes and improve over time unlike Anderson has. Maybe the fans will have the opportunity to “channel” the movie Gladiator and chant “Maximus, Maximus” when he makes a good play.

  109. By Jones from IL on Oct 6, 2010 | Reply

    Jim Hart was also an undrafted free agent walk on. He quarterbacked the Cardinals for 18 years. 3 straight years with 10+ wins, 2 division wins in 74/75.
    Go MAX,and GO BIG RED!

  110. By Brett on Oct 6, 2010 | Reply


    Ok so we all knew Max is a local boy at Mt. View which I attended and played football at my Junior and Senior year but did u guys know this?

    Just his Senior year at BYU is GAWDY. Make sure you check his High School stats as well. Establish the run and for the love God PLEASE give this kid some protection and he will shred the secondary with Fitz alone.

    Enjoy the info on Max because as a lifelong Cards fan, I know I certainly did.


  111. By Brett on Oct 6, 2010 | Reply

    If the defense plays to it’s capabilities as well then we just might have a chance against the Superbowl “Champs”

    Rise Up Red Sea!!

  112. By David on Oct 6, 2010 | Reply

    I think this was a good move by coach. DA seems like he dnt fit in right now. His timing is still not there. He makes good plays at time but never when needed. With Mak Hall Starting this may give The Cardinals the spark that they need. And if anything Trade DA for another QB and try to get a first round pick out of him to. I hope Hall can bring us bake to how they where playing the last 2 years.

  113. By 949cardsfan on Oct 6, 2010 | Reply

    I know this sounds crazy but swallow your pride whiz and trade for Leinart back!

  114. By Nathan on Oct 6, 2010 | Reply

    Although, I’m excited about Max Hall starting after having a full week of practice, I really think he doesn’t give the Cards the best chance of winning. Football is a team game, and obviously QB is a key position, I realize Derek Anderson doesn’t have many fans, or many with alot of faith in him, I think he can still play well and if anything he’s the reason we have our 2 wins now. The two losses the Cards have had were not about his inabilities, it was about being out-coached and out-played by the other teams in all phases of the game.

    Offensively, the O-line has been giving up sacks, and too many holding penalties, forcing the Cardinals into predictable situations that allow even more sacks. And the failure of the coaches to commit to the running game even when down has been a problem.

    Defensively, the Secondary has given up way too many big plays, there have been way too many third down conversions and they’re making the offense play from behind. The D-Line has barely put pressure on the QB, which in turn has hurt the secondary. Stopping the run is a problem but not nearly as much as getting to the QB right now. I say that because the NFL ‘they’ say is primarily a passing league now.

    Special Teams, has had some rays of light on kickoff returns. However the team has no strong punt return ability at the moment, we’ve turned or nearly turned the ball over almost 5 times already in 4 games in punts. Penalties have given the team poor field position as well. Also Ben Graham for as many times as he’s punted this year hasn’t been doing as well pinning the oppossing offensenes back, or maybe it just seems like that because the Defense can’t stop the opposing offense.

    All I know is the Cardinals better come out and play well. If they don’t beat Seattle after the Bye week then I see alot of blackouts in the future.

  115. By Nathan on Oct 6, 2010 | Reply

    Maybe we’ll have to start calling Coach Whisenhunt “Moses” because his decision making as of late is really parting the ‘Red Sea.’

  116. By Cardsalltheway on Oct 6, 2010 | Reply

    Because he’s a local boy, and B/C he can supposedly scramble but got sacked 6 times in one half, b/c he sells more jerseys, B/C he’s a former Eagle Scout like the Cards Head Coach, B/C he’s related to Danny White who must be closer to the Cards Head Coach than John Skelton’s Uncle who is part owner of the Houston Texans, B/C he sits by the right people(those who the Cards Head Coach likes) at chow time in the Cards cafe or elsewhere, B/C he supposedly gathered more support from other teammates during summer camp — which makes no sense at all b/c players should rally around anyone playing QB and finally B/C he is a “fiery” person who wants to play and thinks he should. But…doesn’t John Skelton think he can/want to play, and since when did a personality trait become more important than physical stature and/or skills???

  117. By Cardsalltheway on Oct 6, 2010 | Reply

    Why should Max Hall’s play at BYU be important? In the end it didn’t matter what Matt Leinart did or where he played college ball. The only thing that stands out to me about M. Hall and his BYU days is that he became a Hater. Being a Hater can get you in trouble.

  118. By Cardsalltheway on Oct 6, 2010 | Reply

    diFlavio,…”It seems like when Max gets in the huddle he is in “charge”! You can tell he has control; and the “O” is watching and listening to him! Just watch when he is in there, the players seem to move just a little faster and with some emotion!”
    Doesn’t it seem like whoever the QB is they are in control? And, did his control help him get sacked 5 times in one half? The “O” watching and listening did just that and only that last week. Do you think the players moved faster with emotion last week? His “control” didn’t prevent him from running around like a chicken with his head cut off.

  119. By Joseph Granillo on Oct 7, 2010 | Reply

    Before the season started I told everyone I thought that Matt should be released, Anderson should be put in to start and Max should be groomed to be our future franchaise QB. None of us can presume to know what it is like to be coach or to be the starting rookie QB or to be a seasoned receiver like Fitzgerald or Breaston. What we can do is say thank you to Whisenhunt, the Bidwells and to all the dedicated players who extended contracts, signed and re-signed with Arizona. I have great respect for anyone who perseveres thru tough times collectively to reach a goal. Too many people look at stats and win/loss or QB experience/ratings while forgetting the fundamental fact that these are our Cardinals. They read what we post so if you are going to be someone who posts negative feedback about OUR Arizona Cardinals then I say choose another team. We, who wholeheartedly support our Cardinals, believe Coach, The owners and the players are doing the very best they can. Mr. Bidwell, Mr. Whisenhunt, and ALL Cardinals players…Arizona is behind you. Thank you for believing is us.

  120. By NeilLomaxfan on Oct 7, 2010 | Reply

    Throwing Max up against the Saints will certainally built character..but I’m sure da Saints are already licking their chops. This game could get ugly really quick.

  121. By MAX CHERRY on Oct 10, 2010 | Reply

    I think mr hall and his small ball game is going to see some stars. with that saints blitzing if i was mr hall i would be scard

  122. By larry on Oct 10, 2010 | Reply

    I think this is a good move for the cardinals. Im am a season ticket holder for 18 years and i love my cardinals. Coach wiz is doing a great job i love what he is doing for cardinal.

  123. By Anthony on Oct 10, 2010 | Reply

    Maximus! Maximus! Maximus!

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