Buccaneers aftermath

Posted by Darren Urban on October 31, 2010 – 11:07 pm

Like everyone else, I flinched when Derek Anderson threw his final interception Sunday. At that point, I had been convinced that, despite the up-and-down nature of the game and the disaster of the first 2-and-a-half quarters, that the Cards were going to find a way to pull it out of their a…. er, pull it out of the fire.

But they didn’t.

I know everyone wants to talk about the end of the game. First down, on the Tampa 20. Cards are without LaRod Stephens-Howling, whose ribs just took a shot. Beanie Wells wasn’t in the game after hurting his back, and besides, he doesn’t play in the two-minute package. So the Cards have Tim Hightower, who already lost his starting role after having fumbling issues. Did that affect the play call, why it wasn’t a run? Perhaps. Coach Ken Whisenhunt said the package had been moving the ball down the field through the air. You can’t argue that. And on the play in which Anderson threw the pick, the Cards ran double slants against the Bucs’ zone and Early Doucet was open on the play on the inner slant. The problem is Anderson decided to throw to Larry Fitzgerald. Interception. Game over.

Of course, if Max Hall doesn’t give up two TDs on picks, it would have been moot. Or if the defense had been able to hold after Anderson had led the Cards to the go-ahead touchdown instead of allowing the Bucs to go right back at re-take the lead.

The best thing the Cards can do to avoid such a problem? Don’t put yourself in that situation in the first place. Don’t turn the ball over so much, then everyone can have their beloved 28-carry Beanie game, etc., etc.

— More and more, you can see why the Cards loved Stephens-Howling. The Hyphen is a playmaker, whether it’s returning kicks, covering kicks (he grabbed that muffed punt today) or running the ball (his TD scamper was impressive).

— BTW, Larry Fitzgerald not only scored twice today, he was great blocking and finishing the block on the Hyphen’s TD run.

— Steve Breaston had three catches of at least 30 yards. The Cards had only one pass play of at least 30 yards in their first six games – which also went to Breaston, in the season opener.

— Adrian Wilson lost an interception today because he was called for pass interference. The lone replay Fox showed was terrible (high above the play) but it sure didn’t look like A-Dub did much of anything. That cost the Cards at least three points (and probably more, since the Cards would have been in scoring range before the half).

— Whisenhunt said Hightower’s playing time was affected by the flow of the game and nothing else. Yet it sure had a feel of a message being sent after the fumbles. That and a chance to showcase the Hyphen a little.

— Have I mentioned I am burned out on talking about the quarterback situation?

— Vikings QB Brett Favre left today’s game against the Patriots after a blow to the chest/head, but he said “I should be able to play next week.” That would mean the Cardinals.

— Hmm, I guess I could be in a spot to have to write about the Vikings’ quarterback every week.

— I’m spending way too much time tweeting. I should’ve finished this an hour ago. Goodnight.

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115 Responses to “Buccaneers aftermath”

  1. By Kaushik on Oct 31, 2010 | Reply

    Good job on replying to tweets. That was an enormous amount. Hope the Cards regroup and win two in a row (to balance out the two in a row loss)

  2. By James on Oct 31, 2010 | Reply

    We need a Quarterback like idk NOW ya I mean it darren this is sad just sad

  3. By Joe-B on Oct 31, 2010 | Reply

    Agreed, it was a horrible penalty on A-Dub. Should have been his 3rd pick of the year.

  4. By Phoenixraven1 on Oct 31, 2010 | Reply

    There is really nothing more to say…

  5. By Jackie on Oct 31, 2010 | Reply

    Would Kurt consider coming back if the Bidwell’s opened the pocket book a little deeper? Imagine all the people Kurt could help with all that money!!!

  6. By Darren Urban on Nov 1, 2010 | Reply

    Jackie —

    RE: Warner

    You are kidding, right? He already walked away from $11.5 million. Besides, Kurt isn’t that guy.

  7. By Lone-Eagle on Oct 31, 2010 | Reply

    Darren, you do a hell of a job on all these tweets!Get some sleep, I have a feeling your in for a busy week!

  8. By Steve on Oct 31, 2010 | Reply

    Darren: Just want to say that I hope Whiz blows up this QB charade in the offseason, starts all over and uprades the position by next season (if there is one). Coaches get fired for mishandling QB’s and I would hate to see Whiz get fired down the road if this dilemma ends up spiraling the team to a slow death because of chronically bad QB play.

  9. By Rich on Nov 1, 2010 | Reply

    With all due respect, its your blog. But your words “you can’t argue with that” re Whizinhunt’s play calling on the drive in question. Sorry, we can argue it. Despite how the ball was moving up to that point (and Andersen was playing well) DA is a guy that melts down in the Red Zone….everybody knows it. TB has a bad run defense. He had plenty of time. HE BLEW IT ! Period. We all saw it, we all know it.

  10. By Rich on Nov 1, 2010 | Reply

    Whiz has cost the Cards two straight losses because he chose to start Max Hall. Fans didn’t want Hall ! The local media has been pushing Max Hall and exagerrating the comments from the fans. The media has wanted Hall, not the fans. Its obvious. ENOUGH WITH MAX HALL! Let’s move on.

    DA is the qb as long as we’re in the race. If we fall out of the race, put the kid we drafted in there for some late year experience…see what he has.

    Enough already! The whole Max Hall media game is becoming childish !!!!!

  11. By cardsalltheway on Nov 1, 2010 | Reply

    Had that ball DA threw(about 3 minutes to go in 1st half) not bounced of Lyle Sendlein’s head, it would have bounced short of Steve Breaston’s feet — not even close. And that was after DA surprised me with a 2-yard short pass completion to Jason Wright which didn’t really help.

  12. By Gary on Nov 1, 2010 | Reply

    I think it’s time to turn to John Skelton and see what he’s got to give…

    I am very sick and tired of these interceptions and points off turnovers…

    If this kind of crap does not stop, we’ll be selecting high in the draft in 2011…

    C’mon Whiz, put Skelton in – give ’em a shot, nothing to loose now at this point…this is why we drafted him, right???

  13. By cardsalltheway on Nov 1, 2010 | Reply

    ” BTW, Larry Fitzgerald not only scored twice today, he was great blocking and finishing the block on the Hyphen’s TD run.”
    I guess after the WR’s were caught by JAWS and the “Eye in the Sky,” Fitz thought he ought to block today.

  14. By Pheenic Cromartie on Nov 1, 2010 | Reply

    This team has the potential to do great things. But sadly, they’re missing one of the most important positions on a football team: A consistent QB.

    They need to stick with someone. They can’t keep pulling QB’s in favor of another. It’s kills the confidence of the QB pulled, and it’s annoying as a fan to have to watch that.

    I don’t know what to do with it. Coach Whiz needs to do something amazing this week with our QB’s. He needs to fix the problem he created by cutting Matt Leianrt.

    The Cardinals are a good team, and should only settle for winning. They”re as good a team as anyone else. If they fix the QB situation this week, this season is still salvageable..

  15. By John on Nov 1, 2010 | Reply

    Yes, 1st down on the Bucs 20, and if they did nothing in 3 downs at the very least it’s a field goal to tie the game. So lets throw and take a chance on an interception with one of 2 completely unreliable QB’s because “that package had moved the ball?” That’s his explanation? Please tell me that Bidwill and Graves are setting up interviews for offensive coordinators now as we speak. Give the fans a reason to want to spend time and money to further show up and support this team.

  16. By AnthonyS on Nov 1, 2010 | Reply

    Time to start talking about D. McNabb and next season.

  17. By Jedihillis on Nov 1, 2010 | Reply

    Two weeks in a row now we’ve lost to teams we shouldn’t have. I was so pissed after today’s loss because I had a gut feeling something would go wrong at the end.

    The turnovers killed us, again, plain and simple. I feel bad for Hall but his two interception for returns lost the game for us.

  18. By dan on Nov 1, 2010 | Reply

    That final pick by Anderson was a joke. Man, he didn’t even see where he was throwing it, sure he knew he was throwing to Fitz but he never even looked at the coverage. The only time he even looked at Fitz is when he was ready to chuck it after his fake look-off for the safeties to bite, at least pretend to look-off the safeties but keep your eyes on Fitz and the coverage…………like Tom Brady does all the time. Thats the great thing about great QB’s, they are great actors.

  19. By mrbyte on Nov 1, 2010 | Reply

    All we need is an average QB just someone we can trust with the ball he doesn’t need to be a ‘Warner’ That said Whiz has to call better games as well and manage the clock better.
    I’m emotionally exhausted the players must be too…I think it will be tough for them to come back from this.

  20. By Chris on Nov 1, 2010 | Reply

    Is there any chance we may see Skeleton soon? Hall isn’t getting it done and Anderson looks like that interception machine Brown fans tried to warn us about.

  21. By David on Nov 1, 2010 | Reply

    New QB. Sad? I don’t by that at all. We need to start Anderson period. Forget this crap of switching. DA played great until the last two minutes. Sad part is that’s what he’ll be remembered for about this game. He’s the one that got the ball moving and put points on the board besides the defense. He put us up with the TD to Fitz and then a big play happened for them; which I think the snap didn’t get off before the play clocked ticked to 0 therefore should have been a delay of game. Again we gave the game away pure and simple. We need to do a better job with Clock Mangement, at the 20 with 2:15 in the game, down by 3, BUCS no time outs, Cards 2 time outs… we had them by the throat… I thought we learned our lesson about scoring with too much time on the clock and letting their next drive win the game?? What gets me the most, when we lined up… I knew, just like everyone else, including their defence, the ball was going to Fitz. It was a poor decision but history repeats itself with the Birds, Warner forced a throw too in a very important game that resulted in a pick 6. Anyone remember that knife thru the heart? DA played great and if it wasn’t for him we’d probably never be that close anway. Start and keep him, it may not be pretty but at least he’ll keep us in the game and win a couple along the way. GO BIRDS!

  22. By Rick on Nov 1, 2010 | Reply

    You can try to be optimistic all you want about Max Hall or Derek Anderson but the bottom line is we need at least a decent quarterback and fast. This is ridiculous.

  23. By Darthcard on Nov 1, 2010 | Reply

    If Derek Anderson did not play the cards would have been blown outta the stadium. He played well. The game was exciting. For the first time this year it felt like I was watching football and not jackass the movie.

  24. By Huw on Nov 1, 2010 | Reply

    What about the 3 points they gave up in the first half when going for it on fourth down when a kick was the easier option ?

  25. By ross on Nov 1, 2010 | Reply

    tim is the best fourth string running back in the league.

    Was this punishment or the way its gonna be, darren?

  26. By Darren Urban on Nov 1, 2010 | Reply

    Ross —

    RE: Hightower

    Whisenhunt said neither, just how the game played out.

  27. By Old Man Riva on Nov 1, 2010 | Reply

    Here is the reality of life diehard Card fans…the past two seasons were a fantasy and we have now come back to the real world of Cardinal football. I could write line after line of negatives but that wouldn’t accomplish much since the Bidwill family does not care what fans think anyway. Get comfortable and prepare yourselves for another decade of crappy football and mistake after mistake both on and off the field. Just do like me and focus on the accomplishments of the one or two real superstars the team comes up with. As the Bucs coach put it earlier in the week…stats are for losers (and how many seasons have the Cards fit that mold) and that’s about all this Card team will give us to rejoice about. Obviously the great stats will not come from the QB position. Last question…could Matt Leinart have been worse than what we have?? Oh…don’t forget the Bidwill family motto: “Spend less and get more from the fans.”

  28. By Jim in Missouri on Nov 1, 2010 | Reply

    Darren, are the coaches taking any of the blame for what is transpiring at the QB position? I know they aren’t making the throws, but they decided these are the QBs to keep on the roster, they are deciding who plays and who gives us the best chance to win, and that position has been a failure pretty much from opening day. Factor in that there has been very little, if any, improvement from any one of the QBs all season. Has anyone asked Whiz a question in that area?

    If the coaches are there to choose the right players to keep on the roster, then to “coach up” those players and teach them to cut down on, if not eliminate their mistakes, they have failed on both accounts.

    We’ve got a lot of outspoken people on defense. How long before they decide to stop playing the good soldier and say what they are feeling about the offense giving up 2 touchdowns per game right off the bat? That locker room could get ugly.

  29. By Steve Nealy on Nov 1, 2010 | Reply

    Tough game for the Cardinals. The good news is they still have numerous games and opportunities to rally in this NFC West. The bad news is, of course, this team has really suffered from poor play at the QB position. While I’m an optimist and think DA has the tools, it’s at best a 50/50 proposition as to whether he’ll be good or bad.

    Remember, stranger things have happened. The Vikings can be beaten. Every remaining divisional game is winnable. I believe Whiz can get these guys playing smarter.

  30. By Ottis Anderson Fan on Nov 1, 2010 | Reply

    This is certainly the most adversity Whiz has had to deal with since he came to Arizona. It will be very interesting to see how he tries to solve the issues with the QB position and turnovers. Does he stay the course, or does he alter his approach to coaching the players.

    Thank God we have some competition within our division this year which should make personnel decisions more pressing (unless Whiz has been viewing 2010 as a retooling year all along since he cut Leinart –which is what I believe. If he makes the playoffs, it’s a nice bonus, but if not, he will have a good idea of what he has to work with (evaluating players with playing time in meaningful games) heading into a very likely work stoppage in March 2011).

  31. By CJ on Nov 1, 2010 | Reply

    It was a rough game to watch. That being said, I hope we stick with Max Hall for at least another game or two. I definitely wasn’t impressed with his game but he’s a rookie. Anderson made a few amazing plays but made some very crucial mistakes as well but doesn’t have the rookie excuse. I don’t mind them benching Hall mid-game if he’s messing up but he needs playtime to get better.

    Also, one thing I noticed is that when Fitz caught Hall’s TD pass, it was super excitement especially between those two. When Ftiz caught Anderson’s TD pass, it was all business. I think that’s one of those “intangibles” that Hall has. I think the kid needs a few more chances to improve.

    The problem is that the division is still so close that Wisenhunt has to make some tough calls in order to keep us in the game. I almost wish we had no chance at the playoffs because then we could settle down and get things figured out rather than trying to pressure either QB into a win and just let them learn the system.

    Beyond all that I was super impressed with Hyphen’s performance. I hope they use him more. Any status on his rib injury? Is he out for a few games or just sore?

  32. By Ottis Anderson Fan on Nov 1, 2010 | Reply

    I think it is pretty obvious no team relied more heavily on their QB than the Cardinals did their prior two seasons. Just amazing how much Kurt meant to this team. He’d have his share of turnovers, but fortunately they all came within a couple of games and weren’t spread out over the entire season — putting every game in jeopardy (not just a couple).

  33. By RED BIRD 66 on Nov 1, 2010 | Reply

    Ok lets not talk about our QB, let’s talk about out inept coaching and play calling. Our QB’s do not belong in the NFL for sure but Whiz blew this game. Why would he go for it on 4th and 2 and not get the 3 pts. That would have changed the whole game and we would never of had to have the idiot Anderson throwing in the red zone as a field goal would have won it. Whiz needs to stop calling the plays and get a off coordinator and worry about being the head coach or he won’t be here much longer. Seanson is over, lets see Skelton. Final record 7-9.

  34. By Nick Pepe on Nov 1, 2010 | Reply

    Totally dumbfounded by the call. The Bucs were out of timeouts, two minutes 17 seconds left, first and ten and we throw the damn ball. Great call if it works, lousy call if it doesn’t. It didn’t. And if I am not mistaken, the pick sixes were also first down plays. I was more angry after this loss than any game I can remember.
    That being said, there was some promising signs from the offense and defense and hopefully we can build on that.
    But I am still sick to my stomach over this one.

  35. By TMo on Nov 1, 2010 | Reply

    KW’s play-calling cost us the game.

  36. By Jesse Robles on Nov 1, 2010 | Reply

    Until we get a consistent QB, our chances at anything are shot. DRC is getting worse by the game, he looks LAZY! For anyone to call him a shut down corner is a joke. Although ADUB was screwed on the int, no one talks about how horrible his coverage STILL is?! Ken Whisenhint needs a Offensive Play Caller, cuz he sucks at it. Great head coach but sorry Ken, Todd Haley is better. Why does it take this long to get hyphen some decent play cooling on O? We were out coached and out played!

  37. By Jesse Robles on Nov 1, 2010 | Reply

    Now everyone can shut up about the stupid stat that the Cardinals don’t lose back to back games! We did, get over it, such a lame stat.

  38. By Gary on Nov 1, 2010 | Reply

    By the way, go get an OC too!

  39. By georgiebird on Nov 1, 2010 | Reply

    In baseball, when a team scores some runs, it is very important for the pitcher to shut down the opposition the next inning- the shut down inning. Yesterday as bad as the offense played, the defense was worse in shut down situations late in the game. This is not just this year but believe it or not – it’s for the last 50 years- I’ve seen it all. The Cardinals have never had a defensive player who could take over a game late- except maybe for Eric Swann.
    One theory for the last few years- while Cardinal receivers are great, there are not speed burners who can test the defense in practice and expose the dumb defensive back play. One suggestion for Whiz- get the fastest receiver he can find (not necessarily pro ready) and add him to the practice squad. At opportune times, let the guy run fly patterns in practice and expose the defensive backs like everyone else does.

  40. By Bill on Nov 1, 2010 | Reply

    Pathetic job Sunday guys! I’ve been wondering who’s Team jersey I should buy and after Sunday it’s clear, NONE! It’s not fair that I spend four years and thousands of dollars going to School and getting an education, while you guys get big $$ just to play football and you can’t even do that! They should take money away from you when you lose. Please trade Fitz so he can continue to shine somewhere. He is too good for the Team now and it’s pathetic that the QB can’t even get a pass off to him consistantly! Pathetic guys!

  41. By Chuck on Nov 1, 2010 | Reply

    Re: Your comment; “Have I mentioned I am burned out on talking about the quarterback situation?”
    Well, the Cards fans are certainly tired of watching the wretched play of DA and Hall!!!
    And, of reading of Whiz’s comments regarding their play.

  42. By tRiGiDy22 on Nov 1, 2010 | Reply

    Darren are we just going too call it a year???

    Ownership knew we needed a qb after cutting Leinart! an DA(bust) an what have they done??? Nothing!

    At this point skelton, UFL,CFL, Neil lomax?, Jake the Snake?, your 8year old son Darren??? no more DA! why do that too us over an over he (Blows)

  43. By Blair on Nov 1, 2010 | Reply

    This was whiz’s plan all along. Make sure with this joke of a “quarterback” group we get a top five pick, then pick someone who knows what’s going on. I never thought I eould think anderson being in would be a good thing, but hall look about as bad as it comes. Staring down almost every one of his passes so bad that most of us fans could have picked him off. Get used to talking about the “quarterback situation” because there is no light at the end of that tunnel this season.

  44. By Jason on Nov 1, 2010 | Reply

    Why is John Skelton inactive? Hasn’t anyone else watched him on sports science being compared to Manning? I mean come on this guy went to an Ivy League school which would suggest a decent football IQ, has a cannon arm, and true NFL size.

  45. By Darren Urban on Nov 1, 2010 | Reply

    Jason —

    RE: Skelton

    Tell me you just didn’t use a five-minute made-for-TV-“science” piece as a reason why Skelton should be starting.

    And Fordham is not in the Ivy League.

  46. By Nick on Nov 1, 2010 | Reply


    Even though this lost hurt i still see some positive out of it. Hayes and Breaston both had huge games. You almost forgot what kind of threat Breaston is out there we need to get him an extension soon! Also the front seven of the defense i thought played great. They werer flying around making plays. However, what is going on with DRC. He just doesnt look like the same player. Is It because of his knee surgery he had in the off season? The last question i want to ask you is i feel like we have the overall best team in the division but is that just pointless with are qb situation. I dont think im homer by thinking that i just feel like we have the best team. Oh and at least Max Hall picks up key third downs when hes in the game moves the chains Derek just doesnt seem clutch in those situations.

  47. By Bonehead on Nov 1, 2010 | Reply

    I love it when DA does something stupid like throwing an interception in the red zone with 2 minutes left and 3 points down and people are surprised.

    Whiz must have been the most surprised and was clearly disappointed.

    And that is the problem. Because Whiz shouldn’t even have called a pass play on first down with 2 minutes left and a 3 point deficit in our own red zone. Not with DA at QB. That’s what DA does, throws inaccurate passes. His short passes are even worse because he has no touch whatsoever.

    Why in the world was that play even called with DA at QB? Is Whiz having flashbacks of Kurt Warner? Has he ever watched any game tape of DA of his past FOUR YEARS in the NFL? Why does he continue to have unrealistic expectations for this player?

    I thought Whiz was intelligent. But, it seems that he simply doesn’t understand his own players. And it’s killing this team. You do not get pass-happy with DA and an undrafted rookie QB, I don’t care what the score is or how much time is left in the game. An intelligent coach learns this and works around it.

  48. By tRiGiDy22 on Nov 1, 2010 | Reply

    Ownership it is time too trade for Donovan McNabb! ASAP!

  49. By cardsalltheway on Nov 1, 2010 | Reply

    Right on with Skelton getting his shot. If I were Skelton I’d be thinking…”God these guys are terrible, I can certainly do better than these guys(DA and Hall).” Have you seen J. Skelton tower over the little AZonian Utah Ute hater? How or why would any NFL coach think Hall could deliver before J. Skelton if not for statist reasons?
    Allright already, let Johnny Skelton play aye!
    I’d go to Vegas and place big ones on Skelton NOT throwing 4 interceptions, 2 of which being pick 6’s in any of the remaining games yet somehow the two guys Ken W. chose are able to combine for such stats. You are Wonderful Whiz. You either got it or you don’t and DA and Hall obviously DO NOT have it. It’s like math and science, you either know it or you don’t. Rarely, do two QB’s on the same team EVER look so bad. Gotta hand it to ya Ken W., you sure can bring out the WORST in players!

  50. By Christopher Freeman on Nov 1, 2010 | Reply

    Darren after how defensive our draft last year was, do u see arizona taking a more offensive approach to the draft this year looking for line help and aquiring another Qb

  51. By Darren Urban on Nov 1, 2010 | Reply

    Christopher —

    RE: Draft

    I’ll worry about that much later. We’re not even halfway through this season.

  52. By cardsalltheway on Nov 1, 2010 | Reply

    Let me help the Cards coach…Why don’t you be less than truthful in order to trick the other team into thinking this or that guy will take the helm(QB) this week, all the while prepare and play J. Skelton. I’m sure less than the truth has been told before with much less of a goal.

  53. By brad oneill on Nov 1, 2010 | Reply

    Once again i am calling for an offensive coordinator to call plays. whiz outsmarted himself yesterday. i realize you dont want to be predictable but throwing with 3 minutes to go was just a horrible idea. even if they score on the play they give the ball back with plenty of time to tampa. i think whiz is too close to the situation to be calling the plays. pulling max was a mistake. he made an error that resulted in a touchdown but not giving him a chance to recover was a qb confidence killer. If Derek had played well, max may never play a game in the nfl again.

  54. By Michelle on Nov 1, 2010 | Reply


    I am compltely lost…I mean Whiz’s play calling has really cost us. This last game he went for it on a 4th down when we should have taken the 3 point field goal. Then with 2:18 sec left in the 4th he decides to have DA throw instead of run it and they intercepted it. That cost us the game. I am very impressed with DA this game he brought us back from a 21 point loss and scored 21 points in less then 7 min. That says alot. I am very clueless as too why he started Hall off in this last game considering when we played the Saints he didnt score anything, and when we played the seahawks he didnt score anything and he gave up so many points. I just dont get it. Now he is saying he is undecided on who will be QB? Come on its should be a no brainer NOT HALL! I hope he realizes we are 1 game away from being tied with the 49ers. This is not the time to play with the play calling. WE NEED A OC AND FAST!! Not to mention a QB. However if DA gets to practice with his guys more I think we can bring him around. But he needs to look into another QB. I hope he is doing that. He owes that to his team!!

  55. By brad oneill on Nov 1, 2010 | Reply

    fordham is a Jesuit University, the only thing that could save our team is divine intervention. Maybe Skelton learned to pray?

  56. By wny cardfan on Nov 1, 2010 | Reply

    I’ve been reading posts for about 3 games now, and most of its been said. The only reason I’m adding in is I can’t stand it. Been cards fan for 35 years and I hate to say it, but it looks like the cards of old have come back again after 2 good years. Lose when they can win, only bad write ups/news coverage, people laughing at you when you say you like the cards….

    I agree with alot of posts I’ve seen here, Coach Ken needs to get an OC so he can focus on coaching. QB piece is obvious. Heard today that McNabb has a 1year deal in DC, so go get him next year. Their coach benched him (why in the heck he did that???). I was only able to watch the last 5 min of the game due to the network crap, but within 5 minutes I was ticked and depressed at the same time.

    If it weren’t for us shooting our own foot, the losses would be easier to take, that’s for sure. I still root for the team, but I’m not optimistic at all with them. Hope they can muster some emotion, of they are doomed

  57. By cardsalltheway on Nov 1, 2010 | Reply

    How has the Cards COACH burned through 3 QB’s after 8 games(soon to be 5?). Of course that’s counting Matt Leinart and why wouldn’t you? It should’ve been handles like this…Start out using Matt for crying out loud, it would’ve been the common sense thing to do. Like many of the Matt Leinart HATERS had even suggested( “HATERS” is only a figure of speech — I don’t really think anyone hates Leinart, DA, or Hall)…Let Leinart play through the first 6 games of the season until BUY WEEK, if he hadn’t played up to par that was the time to make a change. Instead, we know what happened much to early. Also, that would’ve given Matt a FAIR chance just like WOLF keeps screaming the undrafted rookie QB Max Hall deserves. If Leinart didn’t pan out, D.A. could’ve been given a chance, if D.A. didn’t pan out then J. Skelton could’ve been given a chance. This is simple common sense…Skelton was a higher draft pick and still has more upside than M. Hall given his physical attriibutes/skill sets, etc… and don’t forget NOBODY else wanted M. Hall. Using an undrafted QB rookie before J. Skelton undermined the Cardinal team/Front office etc…If J. Skelton didn’t pan out THEN give the undrafted rookie a chance, that’s how the CARDS DECK should’ve been played. Unfortunately we have this discombobulated state of confusion that goes something like…@#$%^&*($)@_% *$_^*(+)*&^%%^(0)!@#…Which is EMBARRASSING to many if not all Cardinal fans.

  58. By cardsalltheway on Nov 1, 2010 | Reply

    Nonetheless, I stll think starting J. Skelton is the simple thing to do. I believe that is the answer, everyone will be able to sleep at night b/c Skelton will take control just like you see most other young QB’s do on other NFL teams. Why does it have to be rocket science for the Cardinals??? Football isn’t that difficult for those with the right intentions.

  59. By cardsalltheway on Nov 1, 2010 | Reply

    But who knows, maybe the Cards coach’s plan was to lay Max Hall out on the line so that J. Skelton could live and learn through him? Given the coach’s past i.e. M. Leinart living/learning through HOF QB Kurt Warner and then getting CUT, I’d have to question that theory?

  60. By Darren Urban on Nov 1, 2010 | Reply

    Cardsalltheway —

    RE: Skelton

    “everyone will be able to sleep at night b/c Skelton will take control”

    So you’re telling me, as long as Skelton plays, even if John throws a couple of killer picks or completes 48 percent of his passes and the Cards lose, I won’t get any more “Fire Whiz” or “The Cards are stupid” etc. comments/e-mails/tweets? Sign me up if that’s a promise.

  61. By Bryan on Nov 1, 2010 | Reply


    Do you think that Whiz should get any real heat for the epic screw-up that was the QB situation this year?

    You seem to constantly give Whiz and Graves a pass or make excuses despite the fact that the mess on their part was preventable and it could impact the team in other long term ways – namely “what if Larry decides he wants to just play out his final year and then see what happens/is available FA wise?”

    Whiz chose Derek Anderson despite his horrible resume…who looks exactly like he did the past 2-3 years when he was one of the worst QBs in the league. He chose Max Hall, who despite the great story…does not have the physical skills to be quality NFL starter. He wasn’t drafted by any team for a reason.

    IF you weren’t 100% committed behind Leinart you go and get a Jason Campbell, or a Troy Smith, or a McNabb, or a Mike Vick.

    I’m not saying Whiz should be fired…but his lease should be seriously shortened and the phrase “trust me” should never again be uttered from his lips to the fans.

  62. By Darren Urban on Nov 1, 2010 | Reply

    Bryan —

    RE: FO/QBs

    What I do is argue the other side. If you read everything I write, I think I am generally balanced. I don’t use as many inflammatory words as the fans, but frankly I’m not (usually) as emotional about things. And there is nothing wrong with being emotional.

    Do I think there are points to be made about how the QB situation was handled? Sure. Do I think the Cards thought they had enough at QB this summer? Yes. You can be mad that they were wrong, but that doesn’t change what was.

  63. By Wampag on Nov 1, 2010 | Reply

    man D the fans are pissed today…I think i am dissapointed we should have won that game but it shows what kind of team we can be..we have a great offense and the D besides the secondary which we knew would be a problem coming into the year has been excellant

    I like this team and I feel we are close to something

    good thing our division will allow us these growing pains

  64. By Ben on Nov 1, 2010 | Reply

    I miss Matt

  65. By Alex on Nov 1, 2010 | Reply

    Being at the game yesterday and feeling the energy from all of the fans around us and seeing the huge fan base walking out of the stadium, THAT is what made me sick. We all poured our hearts out to the team yesterday and the way they played to show their appreciation for us was horrible. The games where we have won at home, you can tell that the crowd is appreciated. Did not get that feeling yesterday.

  66. By DIE HARD THE SHORT VERSION ( YOUTUBE) on Nov 1, 2010 | Reply

    I think it’s time to put in john skelton!

    and that’s how i feel watching this team play football !

  67. By Mike T on Nov 1, 2010 | Reply

    Am I the only fan who doesn’t want mcnabb? He isnt playing very well and is getting old. What happens in a year or two when hes done? We need to develop someone not look for a band-aid. Be patient my friends

  68. By Trips Right on Nov 1, 2010 | Reply

    Once again Coach Whiz failed to take any responsibility for the Loss. I know he can’t control the turnovers per say, but he can make sure he doesn’t put his players that are prone to make mistakes in those situations. After all he is the greatest play caller ever right???

    Let’s be honest, going for it on 4th down and not kicking the FG ended up costing us the game. Had we kicked the FG, then that last set of downs would have been 3 runs and no passes to set up the game winning FG, and thus DA never throws the pick.

    It’s time Coach starts taking some of the blame around here. Man up and say you messed up. He shouldn’t be fired, but He should be responsible for what this season has been so far. Hire a Off Coordinator and manage the game, that’s what a head Coach does.

  69. By Alex on Nov 1, 2010 | Reply

    Wow. Lame fans. Dissing on our team. I’ve only been a fan for 3 years now but i’m loyal to these guys. Lions went 0-16 two years ago and the fans complained sure. But they didn’t give up hope on the Lions. Those are some loyal fans right there. Let’s cheer for our team and hope they can bring us another NFC West flag, and NFC Championship flag, and hopefully that Lombardi trophy we missed out on two years ago. DA knows what he can do, we know what Beanie and Tim can do, we know what Fitz can do. All we need is for our D to step up and stop the other team when we need it the most. Two weeks in a row they haven’t done that. Maybe we can do it against Minnesota. Let’s go 4-4 and get back on track. LET’S GO CARDINALS!

  70. By K-DUB on Nov 1, 2010 | Reply


    Is the front office looking for any type of offensive cordinator to complete the season or to have next season? if there is a next season.

  71. By Voice of Reason on Nov 1, 2010 | Reply

    How can we NOT talk about the quarterbacks? As Kent Somers so adeptly pointed out, they are 85% of the reason the Cards have the record they do. Mere mediocre quarterback play the last two weeks would have beaten the joke Seahawks and the “best team in the NFC nonsense” Bucs.

    Hands down, this one is on the arrogance of the decision makers who decided to not bring in Marc Bulger or trade for Donovan McNabb. THAT, ladies and gentlemen, cost us this season.

    Good teams are proactive; bad teams are reactive. Terrible teams do nothing at all. When the Cards “brass” decided to not bring someone in in the spring, it was wrong but forgivable — we had Leinart, who after years sitting behind Warner should have taken the reigns and done his thing. But he fizzled. As soon as he did, our phones should have been tied up. Go trade for Bulger or some other vet backup, or sign a vet street guy that may not win games but won’t lose them either (Garcia).

    Don’t want to part with a third round pick? Let’s examine the third round picks the last few years. Buster Davis. Early Doucet (couldn’t crack the lineup for nearly two years; battled injuries, but nice player now). Andre Roberts. For this team, it’s a cursed round. Would you trade Buster Davis for Marc Bulger? I sure would.

    And a further tid-bit — next year winning this division will be a whole lot more difficult.

  72. By Darren Urban on Nov 1, 2010 | Reply

    Voice —

    RE: QB talk

    I didn’t say I wouldn’t or shouldn’t talk about it (or that fans shouldn’t). Just said I was burned out on it.

  73. By bryan on Nov 1, 2010 | Reply

    4 rush attempts in the 2nd half????!!!!?!?!?

    Coach Whis should be fined by the bidwills.

    Kurt is GONE!!Why are we throwing the ball this much?!?!?40 pass attempts!?!?are you joking whis!?!

  74. By James P. Sr. on Nov 1, 2010 | Reply

    Hi Darren,
    I am a long suffering Cardinals fan on the East coast. I do not understand how the current Quarterback (QB) play does not warrant changes. I even read earlier on this site that Max Hall thought he played a good game except for the picks. How can you consider giving up 14 points to the opposite team basically ok. This shows seriously deficient thinking backed up by the decisions he makes on the field. I consider it time to try John S. and if it demonstrates we have truly no quarterbacks then we go agressively after a free agent. If we are without effective men behind the center, we will not be a good team. The last 2 seasons we made the playoffs, I cannot foresee that happening this year because off poor QB performance.

  75. By Michelle on Nov 1, 2010 | Reply

    I agree trips right…I think it is because he wants the big check for both positions. To me that is very selfish not only to his team but to the fans. We are only one loss away from tieing the 49ers who have a horrible season. They threw in their 3rd string and it got them a win…wow not saying we should do that but at this point something needs to be done oh like I dont know maybe get a OC and a Qb…..We have went backwards this year. They need to do something and fast!! I blame that lass on the coach for starting Hall and for the play calling. HORRIBLE! He is a great coach but lately he has disappointed me!! Not saying he needs to be fired but needs to wake up!! As for Darren is it me or does he come off extremly cocky at times. I sure think so. I think it is rude to be like that to the fans. We give him his job. He doesnt have to agree with everything we say but he doesnt have to be so cocky either.

  76. By James on Nov 1, 2010 | Reply


    I remember before the season started that you wrote an article about mcnabb visiting the Cardinals training facility when all the talk about him being traded was happening. I was wondering since he didn’t sign a contract extension with the redskins and he was beched last night do you think that maybe the cardinals had a talk with him about possibly signing him during the offseason since we had a the quarterback controversy going on at that time?

  77. By Darren Urban on Nov 1, 2010 | Reply

    James —

    RE: McNabb

    That wasn’t me. I may have written about seeing him at a sandwich shop down the street, but he was never actually at the facility.

  78. By kedo on Nov 1, 2010 | Reply

    I show you ,how to make last call ( gamble coach)
    we get couple timeout,I will run down to kill the time,so if we make a touchdown,
    TAMPE will have no time to scoreback,if we do not get touchdown,kick fgoal tie game go to overtime.remember TAMPE was no timeout by that time,they can not stop the clock.
    if anyone foolball fan ,they can make this easy call.why not you NFL coach.
    well it NFL game, NFL line
    I feel bad for fan (like myself) and some good player.
    bad play call for ( bad QB )
    well DA not bad like we know,they make him go bad.

  79. By Kevin on Nov 1, 2010 | Reply

    What’s done is done, and there’s no point belaboring the QB we didn’t get in the offseason and/or releasing Leinart. As far as the current situation, it’s clear the Cards should just stick with DA while they’re in the race. As noted you can’t keep starting him and then pulling him when he sucks. He actually hasn’t had a decent game yet — his BEST QB rating in 3 games is 65, and that’s in a game where he fumbled twice on top of his one INT and we were just lucky we recovered them. Anderson is not going to be Warner and is likely to be a worse QB than most but at least he is someone who’s proven he can be an NFL QB. It’s not clear Max is that or can ever be that. Did DA cost the Cards the game? Arguably, although perhaps the play-calling did just as much. But I don’t think we’re in that game at all if Hall stayed out there. Final comment — hindsight is 20/20. It’s funny how Whiz gets lambasted for not taking the 3 points on the 4th down in the first half. We all know in that situation that the vast majority of fans love it when the coach is bold enough to go for it. I thought it was a decent move — even if it fails, the opponent’s on their own 2. If it works everyone is patting Whiz on the back. Of course you can second guess when it doesn’t work, but unless you were criticizing Whiz BEFORE the result, you don’t have the right to do so now. The only thing I didn’t like was that the play was rushed due to the fact that it took the Cards a while to figure out whether to go for it or not. Should have called a TO as the play clock was expiring.

  80. By Fred on Nov 1, 2010 | Reply

    Bad play calling and not starting anderson cost us the game. cut hall and be done with it he is a turnover machine

  81. By tyler comella on Nov 1, 2010 | Reply

    To be honest the cardinals should have looked at Donovan. Now is probably the best chance to get him he just got benched in Washington in the last two min of a close game. Im just a fan so I could be crazy but if the cards were willing to give up a second for him earlier in the season. However we did get Darrel Washington with that pick but now that he has been benched what do you think will happened do you think he will be benched the rest of the season if so i think the cards should really look at him. If its a second round pick for him that could mean we would have a franchise qb for the next 5 to 7 years maybe longer. I Could be crazy but just wanted to see what you guys thought. Do you think the cards would even be interested in him.

  82. By Darren Urban on Nov 1, 2010 | Reply

    Tyler —

    RE: McNabb

    Trade deadline is passed. Next window is after season.

  83. By tyler comella on Nov 1, 2010 | Reply

    reading this you can see all of the bandwagons that only like the cardinals win they win if you say fire whiz you are an idiot look what he has done for this team. He turned us from one of the laughing stock of the league to a pretty decent team. He has had one down year and people want him fired, yeah right if you say that g find another team to bandwagon on. Skelton to be honest with you better not get in he is raw but is not where near ready i think. Hopefully D.A. or max can step it up we should win are next 5 games if you look at who we play.

  84. By jdcrow59 on Nov 1, 2010 | Reply

    Where oh where are all the Whiz trusters today. QB situation is a self made debacle, play calling is beyond bad and game management even worse.Time to give up the play calling and concentrate on all phases of the game. And please make a choice. Anderson, Hall, Skelton . Anyone who has seen Anderson over the years knew that either a pick, or fumble was going to happen when the game was on the line. That is who he is and that is what he does. But that said, choose someone and live with it. Forget winning the division. It’s a lousy division and whoever comes out of it is most likely one and done anyway. So pick a QB and see if you can find someone who can cover the deep post route.

  85. By Kevin on Nov 1, 2010 | Reply

    And let’s not lose sight that the Cards are still very much in the race. When they play bad, they can lose to anyone, but really the only game that at this point looking at the schedule you’d say the Cards shouldn’t have a decent shot to win is the game at KC. They aren’t going to win all 8 of the other 9, but look who else we’ve got — the two teams ahead of us in the division, we get to play AT HOME, and the other 6 games are against teams with 1 or 2 wins. Now look at the schedule of the opposition. The Rams still have to play not only KC like us, but also ATL and NO, who we’ve already gotten out of the way. Seattle has to play all 3 of those teams AND they play NYG next week AND they still have a game at TB. At this point we have a decent shot, if we can beat MN and a beat-up Favre, of being 4-4 along with STL and SEA next week, if SEA also loses to the Giants. (STL is off.) The key is the game in 2 weeks vs. SEA. If we lose there, we’re probably screwed. If we win, we actually will be AHEAD in divisional record which is the 1st tiebreaker after head-to-head. This is why I think we have to stick with DA. We’re very much in the divisional race and even a mediocre QB getting us to 8-8 or 9-7 may be enough to win it.

  86. By Bryan on Nov 1, 2010 | Reply


    I just wish you would go into a bit more detail about why it makes sense to start Hall and play him at all this season and it makes 0 sense to start Skelton and play him at all this season. Whiz just saying “trust my judgement” doesn’t really fly given this is the same guy who dumped ML, said DA was the answer, then benched DA when it turned out he still sucked and put in a 6’1 weak armed inaccurate QB and said “no wait this is actually the future”..until he played poorly and then put back in DA.

    –Assuming that in the next 4 games the Cards are no longer in the playoff race. We’ll probably go 1-3 at best over the next 4 games, so it doesn’t seem like a big assumption.

    Why not start Skelton and admit to everyone that he will play poorly but its best to give him some starts for the future. Maybe he surprises…maybe he is flat out horrific…at least we know something more than before he played.

    Neither rookie will play well, mainly because they were both low grade draft prospects but also because they are rookies. But Skelton has the potential to be a solid NFL QB based on his skill set. He just needs experience, time, and reps to learn and grow.

    I’m a season ticket holder and have been since the Buddy Ryan days – but the piss poor management and handling of the QB situation by Whiz has killed all my faith in him that was built up over the last couple of years.

  87. By Darren Urban on Nov 1, 2010 | Reply

    Bryan —

    RE: Hall v Skelton

    First of all (and this is an issue I have with many readers, not just you), often, when I talk about why Hall, etc., I am relaying the thought process of the coaching staff. It’s not necessarily my own belief. (Look at the last item in this blog here). I said all along if the Cards had to turn to Hall, it may well be a lost season. If you take the time to look up my responding blog comments, etc., you’ll see I said that.

    I believe the same with Skelton. The ups and downs will be more downs and awfully difficult to overcome.

  88. By Leslie on Nov 1, 2010 | Reply

    Let’s face it Kurt Warner is not coming back. I think we have 2 guys that need alot more practice, they are a little out of their league right now. But we have alot of other vetran’s that can do alot with the ball with or without a great QB. They also need to get in the game. Sundays are so much fun when your team is always losing. We are still here for them every Sunday, so Go Cards, We do this together. Right……

  89. By Kevin on Nov 1, 2010 | Reply

    Hopefully this is obvious but when I said you can’t keep starting “him” and pulling him when he sucks, “him” referred to Hall.

  90. By cardcat4L on Nov 1, 2010 | Reply

    They need a quaterback that can make good decisions. Also a play caller that wont rely on DA’s arm so much, geez. Get it fixed fast.

  91. By tom manoogian on Nov 1, 2010 | Reply

    —i said it before and i will keep saying it.if whiz knew he was going to get rid of matt(which i have no problem with)he should have had a plan for’s on whiz,period.i like hall also,like to sit and talk to him,buy him a beer,but i sure the hell don’t want him qb my football team.whiz thought he could get by with hall and anderson and it has cost the cards the division because of will now be 25 more years before cards go back to playoffs,and we are going to lose key players as soon as contracts start to expire.the sad part is the 49ers probably will win the division.not having a qb in this league gets you 25 years of not making playoffs,ring a bell to anyone in front office.disgusted.

  92. By Logan Cooper on Nov 1, 2010 | Reply

    There is no other answer at QB than hall or Anderson so deal with it. Leinart is gone, so quit bringing it up. Skelton is further from being ready than hall.
    We don’t have pass heavy QB’s and we wouldn’t be in this interception, QB hating scenario, if we were a more balanced offensive team.

    It is obvious by the comments of certain “fans” that you have joined the fanwagon when we were winning and expect nothing else. That’s good to a certain extent, but it is not a very healthy or realistic way to look at this.

    It looked to me DRC didn’t take his diaper off for the game because he was covering receivers like a baby.

  93. By wayne on Nov 1, 2010 | Reply


    The offense did not lose that game yesterday even with 5 turnovers, our defense is not good at all, Tampa Bay had one of the worst offenses in the league and they went through us from the end of 1st qt to the end, giving up over 400 yrds to TAMPA, I don’t know what to say. We do need good play from the QB but we can’t anyone.

    If SKELTON is the future play him now, no way he can be any worse than HALL, I don’t get it.

  94. By Dre on Nov 1, 2010 | Reply

    tRiGiDy22 —

    Re: Leinart

    Oh, you want to scream about the QB now that it is safe. Hey stick to the jokes alright.

  95. By James P. Sr. on Nov 1, 2010 | Reply

    Hi Darren,
    I am a long suffering CARDS fan on the East coast. . Current QB play warrants change. Max H.thoght he played a good game. He gave 14 points to the other team and considers this OK. His decision making and analysis is deficient. I consider it time to try John S. and if it demonstrates we have truly no quarterbacks then we go agressively after a free agent. If we are without effective men behind the center, we cannot be a good team. The last 2 seasons we made the playoffs, I cannot foresee that happening because off poor QB performance.

    Thank you James P. Sr.
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    I have front row end zone tickets.. and just the chemistry of our team is off along with the ups and downs of DA… he throws One Good to One Bad.. we dont need a 50 percent quarterback.. and on the last pick how could you not see Doucet open.. he was right there and if DA did his usual over throw it would of went out of the end zone… and at least we would have a chance in overtime.. My god its once again the Cardiac Cardinals… Throwing my hands in the air I just say Skeleton he’s bigger and looks like an NFL QB… maybe if he was related to a starting QB of th league he might be starting huh…. and maybe if we had an Offensive Coordinator that would help.. its a fact two hats on one field has lead to many problems.. thats why there is two positions one with Head Coach and the Other Offensive Coordinator.. I will be here in the stands as I was in the Blistering heat of the old stadium.. and maybe if we could get something together I wont have to walk out again with No voice from cheering our team down the field to have to hang my head down like olden days… and just whisper out yeah im a cards fan… Im not the only one.. if you could of seen Fitz’s face after the pick he was ready to eliminate DA with his eyes.. like to say you idiot… what were you thinking and what was the real call.. and if we lose Fitz over the choice of QB you can see DA is not the one for the Cardinals.. fans dont want em .. he gets our players injured by laying em out in the line of fire.. … talk about a stupid move.. we will talk then…

  97. By Mike Ellingboe on Nov 1, 2010 | Reply

    Thank you, Mike T. Things with him aren’t perfect either. If they were he wouldn’t have been replaced at a crucial moment by Rex Grossman. To everyone else, welcome to the reality of the NFL. Franchise QB’s are very hard to find, hence the reason that only about a third (arguably only a fourth) of the teams in the league have one. Unlike past Cardinal teams at least this one is solid in most other areas. Fyi, it wasn’t a dumb play call – the play was there, the read was wrong. No easy solution to this, but nobody is more qualified to solve it than the Whiz.

  98. By Chuck on Nov 1, 2010 | Reply

    What was it Oliver said to Hardy (or vice versa)?

    “This is a fine mess you’ve gotten us into”.

    That’s what the fans are saying to Graves and Whiz regarding the QB “quagmire”.

    And, it will cost us an opportunity to make the playoffs.

    (Re: acquiring McNabb; I agree with one poster. HE’S TOO OLD and ineffective.)

  99. By IRISHRED on Nov 1, 2010 | Reply

    Leinart-reminded me of Napoleon Dynamite’s uncle
    Hall-love his spirit
    Anderson-admire his temper
    Skelton-far and away the best in preseason
    McNabb-is he worth a gazillion dollars for his last year before retirement?
    Vick- no words will describe my disappointment

    Warner-beloved but……RETIRED AND NOT COMING BACK!!!!!!!!!!

    Our job as true fans is to respect the QB (sometimes forced down our throats) and hope for the best. The hard-to-swallow part is due to the one forcing the QB du jour (or quarter) Are we still in preseason mode?
    Pick a Card, ANY Card!
    RISE UP for heaven’s sake mates!

  100. By Chuck on Nov 1, 2010 | Reply


    Stan Laurel and Oliver Hardy!!!

    My bad.

  101. By Scott H on Nov 1, 2010 | Reply


    McNabb again? Really??? I got a better idea – let’s just get his back-up, Rex Grossman. Because as of yesterday late in the game, even the Redskins thought he was a better option. To everyone and anyone who still thinks that McNabb has something to offer, just shut up. Really. Stop embarassing yourself and bothering us with this crap. The Redskins only needed eight games to figure out what it took the Eagles 12 years to realize. In the last two minutes with the game on the line, McNabb is the LAST QB you want on your team.

  102. By Scharf on Nov 1, 2010 | Reply

    Class act by Wilson staying with the injured Buccaneer until the coaching staff attended to him. That’s one play that stands out in my mind. I love being a Cardinals fan, and that right there proves to me how awesome the Cardinals really are. I would also like to welcome back Hayes, he made an awesome impact returning to the lineup. That was a very nice fumble recovery + return, even with the horsecollar tackle he pushed forward into the endzone. Hopefully next week we can rebound and whoever our starting QB is we at least perform like we did today, just less mistakes of course. lol.

  103. By Justin Wheeler on Nov 1, 2010 | Reply

    Trash. This coaching staff is trash. These quarterbacks are trash. This team has the most talent in the division and sits behind the Rams in the standings. What a joke.
    Where are the fools who blindly trusted in “Coach Whiz” now? Whiz has accomplished absolutely nothing without Warner. His play calling has been questionable in every game. We’re extremely lucky to have the wins that we do. I’m tired of these excuses put out by millionaires and ownership. We’ve been told this team lost too much talent to win. Losing players is part of the NFL; it’s the job of management to bring in talent to replace them.
    The team charging full price for tickets is a joke. Why should we have to pay NFL prices when we lack an NFL-caliber quarterback? Max Hall is an undrafted rookie! The other 31 teams let us have Derek Anderson. Hmmm, our veteran quarterback would be out of the league if not for us. Our best bet to win is a guy who was passed over by every team seven times in the draft.

  104. By Jason on Nov 1, 2010 | Reply

    That’s a good point about Skelton, I shouldnt have given him my faith with a five minute tv show, but his fordham and preseason highlights showed promise. Maybe we should just try to bring back Stoney Case and Dave Krieg. No matter how this season shakes out though, the cards are my everything, been to every home game since I was five in 88 so I guess I’m better equipped for disappointment. Go cards!

  105. By AndyStandsUp on Nov 1, 2010 | Reply

    Obviously I have to downgrade my expectations for this year. Losing at home to a young but overrated Bucs team has left myself and most fans very disappointed.
    Playing musical chairs at QB, RB, LB and WR doesn’t help the team consistently or performance-wise.
    The defense, though improved, has given up as many points as the Jaguars and Broncos. Pretty pathetic.
    Fans are calling for an Offensive Coordinator, which would make absolutely no sense have way through the season.

    Looks like I’ll have to suffer through a 10-6 season and third consecutive NFC West divisional title.

  106. By Grabling on Nov 1, 2010 | Reply

    Very bad calls from whiz! The cards need a new ofensive coordinador… With haley the cards will had a better chance to win the game.

  107. By Mike Ellingboe on Nov 1, 2010 | Reply


    I share your frustration with our QB play, but doesn’t your logic about an undrafted free agent or a free agent bypassed by everyone else ring a little hollow when you praise Warner in the same post?

  108. By cardsalltheway on Nov 2, 2010 | Reply

    Who said anything about the Cards losing, interceptions, and low completion rates with John Skelton? And yes of course I promise, fans will not only stop all of what you mentioned they will also be in a Cardinal frenzy and won’t be able to get enough of Johnny S., he is the answer! You might get a few doubters at first b/c they won’t believe what they’ve seen or trust it could happen each week, if I’m wrong I’ll buy you supper.

  109. By cardsalltheway on Nov 2, 2010 | Reply

    Let me be first to coin the phrase…The one, and only, Cards HOF QB…”Johnnyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy Sssssssssssssssss.”

  110. By Dre on Nov 2, 2010 | Reply

    This is way going for it on fourth and two was a bad call. We had already gave up two pick sixes which killed momentum. The fourth and two drive came right after the last pick six. By not scoring we preceed to kill momentum ourselves and team morale. The defense dominated up until that point and there was a noticeable let down the rest of the game.

    Ok, we didn’t kick the field FG and gave the ball up on downs on our 3 yard line. They marched down the field and kick a FG on their 3 yard line and increased the lead to a two score advantage. But this is the worst part that Whisentunt didn’t account for and ultimately we dodged a bullet….The Bucs was to recieve the ball in the 3rd quarter giving then another opportunity to increase the lead.

  111. By Justin Wheeler on Nov 2, 2010 | Reply


    You make a valid point. Chalk my oversight up to anger that my team is ranked behind the Rams past the season’s midway point.

    I would argue that Kurt Warner did prove the doubters like myself wrong, however, I wouldn’t give him control of a playoff-caliber team his rookie season. There are instances where the gamble pays off, but it’s just not worth it usually in the NFL. I was making a point that I feel like the Cards didn’t handle the QB situation as well as possible. Which is particularilty frustrating since we have the talent around to win a third NFC West title in a row.

  112. By Eazy E on Nov 2, 2010 | Reply

    Max had another bad game, good start to it and sputtered after that. DA brought us back and almost completed a miracle but made that crucial mistake. That is the qb DA is, he can make some great throws and plays and then he’ll throw a big interception, he led a great comeback though. Beanie didn’t have a great game and he missed that block that led to that pick 6 from geno hayes not all max hall’s fault on that first pick. Fitz had by far his best game with 6 catches 72 yards and 2 tds. Breaston had a stellar game 8 catches for 147 yards putting up big numbers in that game. Offensive line protected pretty well only a few hits on the qb all day. Defense played well in spurts but not the whole way through. Joey Porter got his 3rd sack of the year whipping gilmore the te and sacking big freeman and Will Davis with a huge sack that led to the 53 yard fg that got blocked. Secondary didn’t play great DRC still should be on everybody’s #1 Toler got beat a couple times deep unfortunately kerry bit on the mike williams deep ball that left toler on an island but why wasn’t DRC on mike williams he can be on an island one on one that’s the kind of cb he is. The hyphen is such a playmaker recovering that fumble a beautiful 30 yard run with some perfect blocking by Fitz and other receivers and in the kicking game, he’s so explosive and fast and quick. Start DA because max isn’t playing good and go from there. BTW, Start Hightower also!!!!!

  113. By Juniorrow on Nov 2, 2010 | Reply

    Forget the quarterback situation… Lets talk about the HORRIBLE cardinals defense who give up more than 25 points a game. The bleeding hasn’t stopped since last years playoff games against Green Bay and New Orleans. Even though the quarter back play is inconsistent no one talks about how much points this Defense is giving up every game. Billy Davis is killing the cardinals. They have more than enough talent on D. Why are they the worst in the NFL in allowing points. That’s what loses the games. It’s not the QB’s. it’s BILLY DAVIS!!!! The media needs to shine some light on the fact that BIlly Davis is the wrong coach for the job and he is the reason why the cardinals are not in these games. 41 points to the Chargers… 41 points to the Falcons… 38 points to the Bucs. THE DEFENSE IS BAD!!!!!! STOP blaming DA and Max HALL. Do your research. The “D” doesn’t give us a chance. ONly 2 games they gave us a chance. New Orleans and St. LOuis. Hmmmmmmm??????

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