Iwebema likely done and Beanie’s situation

Posted by Darren Urban on November 8, 2010 – 11:37 am

Coach Ken Whisenhunt said DE Kenny Iwebema will have more tests done to his knee, but the coach said he is “not optimistic” and the fear is that he tore his ACL. If that’s true, Iwebema will be done for the season, a blow to the Cards’ special teams and a blow to Iwebema, who has dealt with his share of health issues (most notably the tumor he had removed from his chest during 2009’s offseason). If Iwebema is out, it likely opens the door for Bryan Robinson to play more end and to open up game work for Gabe Watson, who has been inactive most of the first half of the season.

LB Paris Lenon (ankle) is the other injury the Cards are watching after the game.

— Whisenhunt said the reason RB Beanie Wells didn’t play a lot Sunday was a lack of practice time. “The way the game went, with the offensive packages we were using to attack those guys, Beanie just hadn’t had a lot of reps on,” Whisenhunt said. “That was what it was about more than anything. Hopefully he won’t have any issues this week. I think if the game had gone differently and we had been able to run the ball a bit better later in the game, we would have used the packages he was comfortable with and we would have seen more time with him.”

— Whisenhunt acknowledged two three-point hard losses are hard and “emotionally it takes a toll.” But the coach remained steadfast in the belief progress was being made and the goal of winning the division remains possible. As to whether the players buy into that, “the test will be on Wednesday” when they return to practice, rather than today when the raw wound of Sunday’s loss probably hasn’t healed yet.

I’ll have more later after the players’ availability.

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102 Responses to “Iwebema likely done and Beanie’s situation”

  1. By Tommy Buoni on Nov 8, 2010 | Reply

    The cards need to make a move for Kevin Kolb. He will become available at seasons end and we need a QB in the worst way

  2. By carlo7000 on Nov 8, 2010 | Reply

    dear darren
    i dont like how this staff managing the players ..i dont like when a player is benche d because of a fumble or when they benched a young guy and really fast players liked.washington(our linabacker are so damn slowly)and then i see veterans playing like completely lost and with the same mistakes as a rookie((ex..adrian wilson).i think is time to find a replacemnt for a dangerous weapon for cardinals in covarage and he is getting worst..i know you will disagrree with me but is normal you work this organization

  3. By Ross on Nov 8, 2010 | Reply

    whiz is telling us one thing regarding the runningbacks and its obviously not the case.

    i just hope he told beanie before the game what was going on…i.e. we aren’t going to use you today.

  4. By Sean hillier on Nov 8, 2010 | Reply

    Isn’t it time for whiz to realize this offense flows much better when he doesn’t call the plays? Not suggesting he’s bad at it, but it seems like the play calling isn’t effective enough play after play when he has so much to worry about.

  5. By Judy on Nov 8, 2010 | Reply

    Who is at fault because Beanie has not had enough practice on the plays?Gabe Watson should have been getting play from the start of the season, Who is at fault that he did not.? Gabe Watson came in,in the best shape ever.Why has he not been playing? He played well for us last year.

  6. By mike on Nov 8, 2010 | Reply

    Why would whiz continue to pass instead of trying to run the ball? He’s got two good backs
    , whe should pound the football!

  7. By Kenny on Nov 8, 2010 | Reply

    Has Rashad Johnson officially passed Matt Ware on the depth chart? Ware wasn’t even active, and Johnson turned in a pretty solid performance, including his first interception.

  8. By Darren Urban on Nov 8, 2010 | Reply

    Kenny —

    RE: Safeties

    It sure looks like that, although the official depth chart has not changed.

  9. By Nick Pepe on Nov 8, 2010 | Reply

    I am hurting, but I still believe. The breaks will go our way eventually. But by God this hurts. Again. Bring on the Seahawks.

  10. By itsjustmeagain on Nov 8, 2010 | Reply

    24 points, and offense only one touchdown. that hurts.
    we lead the league in returns, tied the NFL record for a season yet the offense not much of a factor. no offensive coordinator. really Russ Grimm offensive line and running game coordinator, miller quarter backs and passing game coordinator, head coach calling plays. where can you hold someone accountable. Can’t
    I know it worked last year, Kurt Warner made it work

    Also we need to see what we have with Skelton, can not be any worse then the product we are putting out there now.

  11. By Paul on Nov 8, 2010 | Reply

    Wanted to buck up the troops with this old quote,
    “Nothing in the world can take the place of persistence. Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful men with talent. Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education alone will not; the world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence and determination alone are omnipotent.”
    Keep working hard guys. Things will turn our way. No reason why we can’t run off several wins the last half of the season.

  12. By james on Nov 8, 2010 | Reply


    i am begining to hear a lot about the cards getting McNabb which would be perfect so that we coudl xut hall keep anderson number two and skelton could have a couple years to becoem great whats your thoughtts?


  13. By Darren Urban on Nov 8, 2010 | Reply

    James —

    RE: McNabb

    We will see in the offseason. A lot can happen between then and now.

  14. By PWalker on Nov 8, 2010 | Reply

    The fumble (Rhoades) and the holding call on the first play were bone head plays. Although Rhoades is a definite upgrade over Rolle, but isn’t that the second time he has done that? After that I think the players did well and the team improved overall. The play selection was good with the exception of maybe the OT series needing a run. I applaud coach for sticking to the run after the Vikes scored to cut the lead to 7.

    Kudos to DA he missed a couple, but he made a couple great ones as well. I would have liked to see him throw long to Breaston a couple times just to stretch the field. He looked to be open a couple of times and I would like to see DA loft one long and let Breaston run under it. DA ate the ball several times in the 4th and those were good decisions as well. Over all well done, kudos to Tim as well.

    The DC needs to play aggressive defense, the best teams in this league play aggressive defense, check the records. If Whiz is holding him back he needs to cut him loose, if he is not he needs to kick him in the back side. The defense needs to attack even if they get burned now and again.

    Wade Phillips? Whiz needs some help.

  15. By MattAz on Nov 8, 2010 | Reply

    I just wish coach would at least *try* to indicate he sees that some things need all out fixing. His reaction to these kind of losses at this point seem almost arrogant, if not aloof. I think the fans deserve something other than “we’re tweaking things and we’re showing some improvement. “. C’mon, it the same canned response every week. In addition to an OC get a PR guy for chrissake. Maybe if he’d show some intensity our players would do the same for 60 full mins.

  16. By Gage on Nov 8, 2010 | Reply

    Darren, all i keep hearin about is mcnabb comin to AZ next year. what are your thoughts?

  17. By Fred on Nov 8, 2010 | Reply

    anderson did A good job, bad play calling again probable cost us the game. not using a time out to get snap shot of the offense at the end of the game to give our defense tlme to adjusts is just a waste of our time outs.

  18. By Mailand on Nov 8, 2010 | Reply

    We have 3 top recievers and 2 top RB´s – but it´s still like every time DA (or Hall) are making a play, I don´t believe in it. Yes DA got some nice production in the first half, but the lack of 1 downs (again) in the second – come on. D and special teams deliver.

  19. By chad d. on Nov 8, 2010 | Reply

    What was up with Kerry Rhodes leaving the game?

  20. By Darren Urban on Nov 8, 2010 | Reply

    Chad —

    RE: Rhodes

    Hurt his hand, came back in, but will have it checked out.

  21. By Shooter on Nov 8, 2010 | Reply

    People stop worrying about Kolb. Philly won’t let him go. Vick is going to be the free agent. He only signed in Philly as a favor to the NFL.

  22. By Ben on Nov 8, 2010 | Reply

    Im done listening to Whiz say the same thing every week and never changing anything. He needs to start taking some of the blame himself.

  23. By greg on Nov 8, 2010 | Reply

    ive read and heard some rumors that the cards might make a play for Mcnabb in the offseason being as how he and shanahann arent getting along and mcnabb lives in az how do you see this playing out and why

  24. By Darren Urban on Nov 8, 2010 | Reply

    Greg —

    RE: McNabb

    Guess it might be time for another McNabb blog …

  25. By SIZZLA ALL I NEED (YOUTUBE) on Nov 8, 2010 | Reply

    On a positive note i think LSH has proven himself to be a playmaker, and soon
    to be probowler and Joey porter who i thought was good for a minimum 8-10
    sacks should get that with ease, Lenon and Rhodes have also been nice

    Two i wasn’t bothered at all over the lost this week, in my mind there’s a difference between losing and getting beat, (so close but yet so far)
    you could learn alot from a lost like that, but when you get beat the way
    they did in Atlanta and San Diego all you know is that your not a good team.

    If you look on the bright side, the schedule is favorable and the division is
    up for grabs, 8 games left make’m count my advice would be if your gonna go down go down fighting GOOD LUCK!

  26. By wny card fan on Nov 8, 2010 | Reply

    Perhaps I’m naive, but why are the cardinals the only ones when their HB doesn’t practice that week can’t play? You see guys all the time resting the week and then play (McCoy PHL, Hillis CLE, etc) so that doesn’t make sense to me, perhaps I’m missing something in this case. From the game, disappointing but as someone else said, I expected it even when it was 4th qtr, I can’t believe I was right (sad I was right). They are getting like Cards of old where teams can play them and look great. They did play a bit better, no turnover mistakes, but the OFF neeeds to produce and the DEF needs to stand strong. It would be nice to hear a bit more from Whiz on how or what they are working on vs. the same statements every week about what happened. Its not giving us a lot of confidence. Good luck going forward, I think we’ll need it

  27. By NJAzCardsFan on Nov 8, 2010 | Reply

    For those tired of hearing Coach Whiz say the same thing….. May the Cards can get “Baghdad Bob” to do the Post-Game and Presser’s. It would be entertaining to say the least.

    The only positive thing I can say is: I am glad, I didn’t have to pay money to watch these last 3 games. This year for the Cards, reminds me of the “Buddy Ryan era”….

  28. By cardsbigredfan on Nov 8, 2010 | Reply

    I was really ready to cry lat night after that game. I was really heart broke, i can’t imagine what the players feel like right now=(

    We still have 8 games left to go, LET GO GET THE WEST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I LOVE MY BIRDS!!!!!!!

  29. By cody on Nov 8, 2010 | Reply

    any chance we get Al Harris fo
    r CB depth?

  30. By Darren Urban on Nov 8, 2010 | Reply

    Cody —

    RE: Harris

    Has a lot of miles on those wheels and is coming off reconstructive surgery. Big, big question marks there.

  31. By RobertF on Nov 8, 2010 | Reply

    Whats up with Adrian Wilson not covering anybody all game? Favre threw that slant in front and behind AW 12 times for over half of his passing yards and 2 TDs. We relly looked pathetic out there. And who called our plays in the 4th Qtr? two weeks of playing not to lose. Again we snatch defeat from the jaws of Victory. I started going to Cards games in Oct 68, this may have been the worst loss.

  32. By brad oneill on Nov 8, 2010 | Reply

    Da did not play good he played scared.

    this season is not over!!!!

    if we can get da’s confidence back by the playoffs we will have a shot. The goal from this game forward should be taking baby steps toward the super bowl. this team can get there with the people they have. They are so close to being damn good. one or two plays in each of the last 3 games and we are looking at leading the league right now. Forget the record win the next game and play to get better.

  33. By RobertF on Nov 8, 2010 | Reply

    As for Joey Porter pulling up and not hitting Favre at the end of at least 4 pass plays, when they would have been good legal hits. Message to Porter – did you see how your old friend took it easy on your team in the 4th Qtr? Farve even attempted a leg whip on you(Porter) later on their failed reverse.
    Maybe we need to get ready for the Andrew Luck chase.

  34. By ross on Nov 8, 2010 | Reply

    Darren, if you had to guess, who is the starting tailback?

  35. By Darren Urban on Nov 8, 2010 | Reply

    Ross —

    RE: Starting RB

    I would guess right now Hightower.

  36. By Scott H on Nov 8, 2010 | Reply


    RE: “Maybe I need to do another McNabb blog…” I say, don’t you dare!!!

    Tommy Buoni –

    RE: Kolb

    If you’re paying attention to the Eagles – and you must be since you are thinking about Kevin Kolb – I’m curious as to why you aren’t more interested in Michael Vick right now. He’s been amazing this year. And I never thought that about him before! He can still make a lot of plays with his legs but he’s become a better passer than I ever thought he could be. Hasn’t thrown an INT yet this year! As QB of the future for the Cardinals, he has my vote right now. But I won’t disagree that Kolb offers a lot as well.

  37. By MikeG on Nov 8, 2010 | Reply

    Hey Darren–Tough game for the Cards yesterday–It’s taking me awhile to get over this one. Once I saw that Kerry Rhodes fumble early–I knew it would be an interesting afternoon. We did some good things –just couldn’t stop them when they needed too. Were you surprised the Vikes threw the ball as much as they did?/ I thought if we were to be beat–it would mostly be because of Peterson and not Favre???

  38. By Darren Urban on Nov 8, 2010 | Reply

    MikeG —

    RE: Vikings

    They fell behind.

  39. By Ben on Nov 8, 2010 | Reply

    FIRE BILL DAVIS ANS HIRE WADE PHILLIPS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  40. By Donnie on Nov 8, 2010 | Reply

    Never seen so many fans jump ship since the cards got here and thank GOD the fans don`t have any say on who plays here..given their way we would have every cut,injured,used up player in the league here in AZ
    This aint over..we are beat up but not beaten,,roll on Big Red

  41. By georgiebird on Nov 8, 2010 | Reply

    I can’t believe this site. Almost everyone is misreading this team. If the offense had scored 60 points, the defense would have given up 63. This defense plays well when the other team is playing conservative- when the other team cranks it up, the Cardinals’ defense stinks. It’s a dumb defense that can’t figure out the next play. Favre ran a lot of misdirection to confuse the Cardinals. It was brains against brawn- it was a mismatch. The Cards needed just one stop at the end, the Vikings were out of time outs. The offense is
    And by the way- why does Bill Davis still have a job when Clancy P was given the door in a Super Bowl season??

  42. By brad oneill on Nov 8, 2010 | Reply

    on a more important note that is terrible about Kenny Iwebema. i hope it is not as bad as it looks now. That guy is a gamer and we will miss him badly.

  43. By kauaicardsfan on Nov 8, 2010 | Reply

    Hey Darenn,
    Dockett was hurt a couple of times but came back, was it a shoulder stinger or something else?

  44. By Darren Urban on Nov 8, 2010 | Reply

    Kauai —

    RE: Dockett

    He should be OK. Stinger once, on the other I think knocked in the head. He came back and was fine.

  45. By Don C on Nov 8, 2010 | Reply

    I like AW a lot but I think he is a terrible cover safety. He gets beat and is out of position in coverage so many times its getting old. In the playoff game against NO last year Jeremy Shockey was hobbling around and still beating him. A thought came up that makes sense to me. Darren, what about AW as a line backer? He may be a little light by today’s standards but he hits like a line backer, and likes be up there most of the time anyway.

  46. By Stacey on Nov 8, 2010 | Reply

    I know you get “advice” from fans all the time…but I have something that just may help the QB next week!


  47. By tonyguinn on Nov 9, 2010 | Reply

    Hahaha nice!!!

  48. By Christo on Nov 8, 2010 | Reply

    HIRE an OC Whiz . . you don’t got it.

    Maybe Wade Phillips? Bill Davis CERTAINLY is NOT the answer.

    Get us a Vet QB this off season. McNabb, Kolb, maybe Orton could be torn away?

  49. By Christo on Nov 8, 2010 | Reply

    To be clear we need an OC and a DC. Hence the need for Phillips and for Whiz to step down.

  50. By montana card man on Nov 8, 2010 | Reply

    You cant win football games when you try so hard not to lose! The Cards final drives were pathetic play calls. The defense is on the field way to long. The offense needs to have long sustained drives.

  51. By blake on Nov 8, 2010 | Reply

    Ben , Right on
    as i was going to say the same thing , never thought much of Wade as a head coach ( always thought he was a bumbler ) , BUT he is a good defensive coordinator
    go CARDS

  52. By MikeG on Nov 8, 2010 | Reply

    Hey Darren–It’s ashame about Iwebema–he’s been thru some tough times lately. Plus he is good on special teams! I wish him the best. Also–looks like Andre Roberts is improving and that is a good sign. Hyphen is something–very exlplosive. What did you think was the key play for the Card’s yesterday?? Settling for 3 points on their last scoring drive?? That kept the door open for the Vikes–a 2 score game!!! The Rhodes fumble was huge as well!

  53. By georgiebird on Nov 8, 2010 | Reply

    Those complaining the Cardinal fans are jumping ship are being unfair. Cardinals’ fans believed that Whiz was building a winner and things would finally be better for the Cardinals.
    The reality is ‘it was ALL Warner and his velcro gloves’. Whiz seems like a run of the mill coach with his petty feuds, poor evaluation of talent and allegiance to ex- Steelers. E.g. if Whiz used the same criteria to evaluate Bill Davis as he used to evaluate Clancy P., then Davis would have been fired long ago.
    If you throw in the gift from the Raiders and the hang on against the Rams, the whole season hangs on the beating the Saints in a ‘once a year type home upset” game.
    I still feel the Cardinals can parlay some key home game victories into a NFC West title. Whiz on the other hand is an ok coach but he’s definitely not a top tier HC.

  54. By Eazy E on Nov 8, 2010 | Reply

    What a heartbreaking game! We had that game. DA looked his best all season. Hightower ran hard and did ok considering they got the williams wall where very few rbs gain any yards against them. Fitz had a big game but DA missed on one deep corner Fitz ran which would have been a big gain but nevertheless it is what it is. Andre had a nice game including the curl route where he made a move cut back and walked in the end zone. Offensive line was doing an magnificent job protecting DA until the final minutes where it pretty much broke down from there. Levi was shutting jared allen down then jared got all on him. Brandon Keith allowed ray edwards to get on him late also. Defense played outstanding until the Favre magic. D-Line was dominating up front with stopping the run and getting after Favre. Dockett had arguably his best game with a sack also and being a warrior coming in and out with injuries. Joey Porter is on fire at least a sack in three straight games and had his best game as a cardinal with 2 sacks and 5 qb pressures and 6 total tackles he was hitting favre all game long. Secondary couldn’t stop making plays Favre just made some wonderful throws because Kerry played well with the pick that should have been a td that sucks and a beautiful pass deflection in deep coverage. A-Wil had a tough game because of favre’s beautiful throws he was right there in coverage against shiancoe and he did go the wrong way but still he almost made that play just a great throw. DRC and Toler I would like to play even more man coverage because favre was taking advantage of that off coverage we were too far off at times. Our special teams have been excellent this year Larod is going to the pro bowl I hope taking another one to the house and mike adams scooped up a fumble and taking it back was nice with schofield stripping it from harvin. Feely and Graham was great on sunday too. We have to close out games better starting with rival seattle at home we should take care of them they look horrible right now but they are a divisional opponent, Let’s Go 2nd half of the season!!

  55. By Eazy E on Nov 8, 2010 | Reply

    I’m all for McNabb

  56. By Eazy E on Nov 8, 2010 | Reply

    Al Harris as a cardinal??

  57. By Casey on Nov 8, 2010 | Reply

    RE: Softball Questions


    Will you please ask Whiz softer questions in his pressers? It’s obvious that your questions are rattling Whiz up there- I can see the beads of sweat forming on his forehead as he tries to adjust his seating position and look to the heavens for answers to your thoughtful, provocative, penetrating questions. What exactly is your role in those pressers? Is it to balance out the overall line of questioning in case someone not getting paid directly by the Bidwills asks questions that make Whiz look bad? Does Michael Bidwill have to review and approve your questions before you go into the auditorium? Does he pick the topics for your incessantly optimistic and complimentary website content? If fans are looking for objective insight on the Cardinals, shouldn’t they rely on,, or national sources like ESPN (Mike Sando), (Mike Florio), even

    Keep up the great work Darren- your questions of Coach Whiz are scintillating- can’t wait to hear what you have for him on Wednesday after practice. I’m sure you’re working on a series of compliments, uh I mean questions, for Whiz about the tremendous force Billy D’s defense has become. Even Wolf is providing a much more objective assessment of this team right now- did you catch his online chat with fans earlier today? Is Whiz the godfather of your children? Is big time Billy D your brother in law? I guess you’re an lifer because I think you’ll have a difficult time ever convincing another third party media organization that you can be objective.


  58. By Darren Urban on Nov 8, 2010 | Reply

    Casey —

    RE: Comments

    You obviously don’t care for what I have to say. Perhaps it’s best for you and I not to interact anymore.

  59. By Eazy E on Nov 8, 2010 | Reply

    You can always use more good cbs hopefully harris is healthy

  60. By ross on Nov 8, 2010 | Reply

    Did anyone ask Hightower about the dropped pass?

  61. By Darren Urban on Nov 8, 2010 | Reply

    Ross —

    RE: Pass

    I did not.

  62. By Maricopa on Nov 8, 2010 | Reply


    Why is nobody questioning the D Cord..I mean cmon now I know you know just as everyone else, we have tons of talent and our schemes are not good at all, rushing four guys when you cant get to the qb, when we went to the SB we had guys coming from everywhere, also the Defensive Game planning is poor, would love for a comment from you…

  63. By AndyStandsUp on Nov 8, 2010 | Reply

    Sad note on Iwebema. The guy has had more setbacks than the economy.
    Question on Wells. Is the media hype about him being a hangnail from going on the IR real or imagined, in your eyes? He hasn’t missed many games but seems to have nagging injuries every other game.
    Kinda like the perception of DRC being childlike, sometimes it’s tangent.

  64. By John on Nov 8, 2010 | Reply

    I had to stop reading these comments. These people saying fire Davis and blame the defense arent watching the same games I am. No matter how good your defense is, your worthless if you have no QB and can’t get a first down, not to mention some points. The best defenses (ranked by the stats you love to quote) are only the best because they have an offense that lets them have a slight rest between series by getting at least 1 first down. It’s not rocket science.

  65. By TYGR on Nov 8, 2010 | Reply

    to the comment about not playing adrian wilson you cant say that you watch very much football!!! I really don’t see what all the hype is about beanie wells hes a good back who can move the pile but tim is more well rounded and had a couple of decent gains on sunday but then they stopped running the ball.. it was almost like they were game planning to not fumble the ball on sundaty playing to conservative.. I like when we take more chances on the field even if there is a couple of turnovers… DERICK ANDERSON LOOKED SCARED @#%@ LESS WHEN HE WAS IN THE RED ZONE

  66. By UltimateCard on Nov 8, 2010 | Reply

    Will Whisenhunt let the guys go to a movie on Wednesday? Whisenhunt himself said that it is not necessarily about what you see on the field. Two things absolutely need to happen. 1. Whisenhunt needs to admit that he screwed up with the QB fiasco. That will at least allow him to salvage self dignity. 2. He needs to be canned so the team can move on and rebuild without his enormous, idiotic, self serving, ego getting in the way anymore. What a joke. Will one person ask him to his face if he regrets cutting Leinart? JUST ONE.

  67. By Getthefork on Nov 8, 2010 | Reply

    Am I the only one that thinks the Whiz should be fired? Bill Davis is a HUGE mistake. How can you go into the season without a good quarterback? Whiz’ over confidence in himself is what has brought us to this miserable season. It only gets worse from here, 6 – 10 at best.

  68. By TBru on Nov 8, 2010 | Reply

    I would hire Wade as a DC, but never a HC

    I am dismissing all “next year” rumors, until a CBA is agreed to.

  69. By Chuck 1 on Nov 8, 2010 | Reply


    Since you apparently don’t think that enough people are asking penetrating questions of the organization, you would be the prime candidate to go on the Fan Feedback link and ask those tough questions of the Bidwills, Graves, Whiz, Davis and whomever else you believe aren’t doing their job properly.

    Give them a piece of your mind and let us know if you get any satisfaction.

    Here it is:

    Oh, BTW, I am just as fed up with the results of the Cards’ games this year.

    But, I think that your rant against Darren is over the top!!!

  70. By AndyStandsUp on Nov 8, 2010 | Reply

    Holy Guacamole people!
    Talk about Chicken Little with the sky is falling.
    In case you haven’t heard:
    Warner retired, Dansby and Rolle LEFT as FAs, Boldin was traded, Leinart released and injuries to Hayes, Wells, Doucet, Fitz and Breaston, Cards playing something like 6 of first 10 on the road and you want to crucify Whisenhunt like a witches hunt?

  71. By JimJam on Nov 9, 2010 | Reply

    Big game v Seahawks coming up, Wells needs to be fit and ready to go to give the Cards a hot chance.

    A new article is up regarding the NFC West’s reputation at, check it out

  72. By Matt on Nov 9, 2010 | Reply

    Hey darren,

    Im going to ask the question on many peoples minds. In response to the issues with the defense (and i know they have played well some times but, well, see minnesota), is there any chance coach whiz might consider picking up Wade Phillips as a defensive coordinator? From what ive seen hes not a great Head Coach but is a good DC.

    Many thanks and much respect, Matt

  73. By Darren Urban on Nov 9, 2010 | Reply

    Matt —

    RE: DC

    Nothing is going to happen this season. After the season, the whole organization does a self-analysis. From there, we will see if there are any changes to the staff. If not, Phillips is a moot point.

  74. By ross on Nov 9, 2010 | Reply

    You are a jackass. Don’t criticize Darren because you are sad that the cards lost.

    It really doesn’t matter what whiz says up there anyway. 90 percent is boilerplate. What matters is what happens on Sunday.

    The coach doesn’t owe you anything.

  75. By Christo on Nov 9, 2010 | Reply

    Ultimate Card – Leinart is terrible, #3 in Houston. Why should Whiz feel bad about that? Rake him for not bringing in a McNabb or Bulger or someone of calibre. Not for cutting a career scrub.

    Hold him to task for his questionable play calling? Yes. We need an OC.

    Ask him why Davis is still around? Yes. We need a DC.

    Ask him why he benches our BEST running back after a costly fumble? That would be Hightower.

    Most of all ask him why this extremely talented bunch can’t close out or finish games!

  76. By PWalker on Nov 9, 2010 | Reply

    I liked what Whiz had to say!

    I think he is catching on to this coaching thing.

    Go Cards!

  77. By georgiebird on Nov 9, 2010 | Reply

    Casey’s comments should continue to be published. He’s a very passionate Cardinal fan and a lot of his comments have merit. As long as he keeps it clean, he should have an airing.
    As a follower of this site, I have more problem with the rah rah fans who see everything with rose colored glasses. One guy is talking about Cardinal injuries when the Cardinals are by far the healthiest team in the league. Should he be treated like Casey for having a pro-Cardinal view using injuries as a excuse.
    Let your work stand on its merit, some will like your work some won’t.

  78. By joe67 on Nov 9, 2010 | Reply

    I can’t believe, we get a coach to change the culture, go to playoffs twice, the Superbowl once (there were many times ovr the last forty years I thought I would NEVER see that) and we hit a little bump in the road and some of you clowns want to get rid of him. What jokes.
    I don’t agree with everything either, but ask yourselves just how long do you think coach wiz would be out of a job?? Thirty days, maybe??

    Why don’t we run more? O line can’t block! Why can’t q b pass more effectively? O line can’t block. It all starts up front with the offensive line!!
    Easy solution……….Dierdorf, Dobler, Banks, Young and Finnie!!! 🙂

  79. By georgiebird on Nov 9, 2010 | Reply

    To Joe67-
    Your missing the point with Whiz and the Cardinals. This story presents a very unique set of circumstances.
    1) Kurt Warner (and his velcro gloves) plays fanatic football for 2 years (2008-2009) and the Cards have unprecedented results.
    2) Warner leaves the team and the Cardinals regress to prior years.
    3) How much of 2008-and 2009 should be ascribed to Whiz?
    Once again, this is a situation that probably has never occurred in NFL history- and I think most fans are coming down on the side that it was mostly Warner and very little Whiz.-which is also my position.

  80. By Darren Urban on Nov 9, 2010 | Reply

    Georgie —

    RE: Warner impact

    So how do you explain Warner/Boldin/Fitz/Rolle/Dansby/Dockett going 10-22 in the two years prior to Whiz arriving?

  81. By Peter in Canada on Nov 9, 2010 | Reply

    Georgiebird- Casey is a jerk and I for one wouldn’t blame Darren for dumping him. His expectations of Darren do not make sense. Darren is an employee and it would be stupid of him to go about trashing his bosses. If he wasn’t in sync with their views he would be happier seeking some other job. Naturally, therefore, his views will be mostly similar to the party line. I have no problem with that for as a fan, I too for the most part agree with what the staff is doing. My personal view is that the glass is half full and the problems the Cards are having comes directly from the QB situation. That was unfortunate; with Whitehurst’s debut, all the options available to the Cards have struggled with the exception of Bulger. Vick was not an option. So given Warner’s retirement I don’t see how things could be much different. As long as the team plays hard that’s all anyone can ask.

  82. By jocards on Nov 9, 2010 | Reply

    I don’t think the problems of this team are directly the coaching staff’s fault. Players make plays (or they don’t) and the players didn’t make enough of them on Sunday. Everyone likes to think this team has “tons of talent” but I don’t think that’s true in the sense that most folks mean it. Every NFL team has a lot of talent. The good teams have players that make plays when they need to, the Cardinals certainly do not make plays when they need to be made. Look around the league, there is a fine line that seperates a pretty good team from a pretty bad team….a couple/few pivotal plays per game. If a team makes those plays they’re pretty good, if they don’t they’re pretty bad. It’s clear to me which side of that line the Cardinals are on…If the defense makes a stop in the last 4-5 minutes, if the offense can get a first down in any of their last 3 possessions it’s likely a different outcome. Make a play here, make a play there and you’re a pretty good team. If not you’re sitting at 3-5 and looking like a pretty bad team.

  83. By jocards on Nov 9, 2010 | Reply

    The truth is that this organization has division titles the last two seasons, they’ve won playoff games the last two seasons….This TEAM has not. Anybody watching this season has to see that this team is not nearly as good as the last two seasons. Warner, Boldin, Dansby to name just three players that were a huge part of the winning are no longer here. The guys we’ve plugged into their positions are not nearly as good and I’ve only touched on three positions. The point is that the team as a whole isn’t even close to be as a good a team as the 2008 & 2009 teams were. Fans like to tell themselves that the team could’ve beaten Tampa & Minnesota. True if they made the plays they needed to make but they did not….One could also say they could’ve lost to the Rams and the Raiders were it not for a huge turnover and a missed chip shot FG. The fact is that the team is 3-5 and the season is in danger of rolling downhill in a hurry. The division is weak but I caution that bad teams don’t win any division, even weak ones and right now the Cardinals are a bad team.

  84. By Ben on Nov 9, 2010 | Reply


    By AndyStandsUp on Nov 8, 2010 | Reply

    Holy Guacamole people!
    Talk about Chicken Little with the sky is falling.
    In case you haven’t heard:
    Warner retired, Dansby and Rolle LEFT as FAs, Boldin was traded, Leinart released and injuries to Hayes, Wells, Doucet, Fitz and Breaston, Cards playing something like 6 of first 10 on the road and you want to crucify Whisenhunt like a witches hunt?


    And we should blame the fans for this mass exodus??? This falls on Whiz Graves and Bidwill for everyone not being here.And yes drafting a running back in the first round to hold a clipboard is the OC/Coach/genius’s doing as well. Who should we blame for this crappy product we are being sold?

  85. By Ben on Nov 9, 2010 | Reply

    Personally I agree with some of what Casey had to say, Although I am a big fan of D.Urban and realize who signs his paycheck.

    My problem is with the other reporters in the room. Whiz must be pretty intimidating because no one seems to have the balls to ask some tough questions.

  86. By SteveDCO on Nov 9, 2010 | Reply

    Darren, like I said before, stop responding to the bone headed stuff. It makes you bitter to real Cardinals fans with real questions or comments.

    Whiz and Graves are one of the better GM/ coaching combos in the NFL right now.

    Graves has brought in a ton of talent through the draft. Whiz took tha talent and got us to back to back NFCW titles.

    Look at Dockett or Toler for Whiz’s ability to coach players. Dockett was a thug when Whiz took over. He is a stud on that line now.

    I see Whiz’s weakness is his loyalty to his staff. Grimm was given a OC job to help him get a HC job. Also a little concerning that our Oline is weak with Grimm as the OLC. He just doesn’t have the juice that Haley had.

    Davis is a product of the Pitt system and we all know why Pitts D has been so good for so long. This team has the talent to be a NJ or Balt type D but plays more a bend but not break attitude. I would challenge anyone to name more than 5 teams with more talent on the D side of the ball yet we play like a bottom 5 D.

    I have been critical of Davis all season long for match up issues. AW covering Gates or any receiving TE, DRC not covering the best WR on obvious passing downs. It feels we are getting out schemed every week.

  87. By AndyStandsUp on Nov 9, 2010 | Reply

    Warner walked away from 13 million to “Dance with the Stars” not much Graves/Bidwill could do there.
    If you wanted to make Rolle and Dansby the highest paid players at their position in the HISTORY OF THE NFL, then they could have been kept and watch Breaston and Fitz leave next season because of cap restrictions.
    Boldin was becoming a distraction and though I’m pleased he’s having a good season, chances were/are they aren’t going to last.
    Injuries are part and parcel of the NFL, but when you’re lining up rookies and undrafted rookies at skill positions, there has to be a letdown in performance.

    I’m just as ticked off after a loss then most of you guys, but if the Cards win next week, and I’m 90% sure they will, will the Chicken Littles be back on the bandwagon?

  88. By NYCARDSFAN on Nov 9, 2010 | Reply

    Darren, I thought from what I had seen that DA played much better this past weekend than he has all year. I hate the loss, but I did see an awful lot of improvements in a lot of aspects throughout the team. My question for you is…Wheres Skelton? I thought he showed up pretty well in the preseason. I am just wondering as to why we dont see him play at all in the regular season as of yet. My reasoning being, he was drafted, he is taller and stronger than Hall (undrafted), and at this point, I and a lot of other people dont really expect we will see DA on the roster next year. Somebody at some point must have seen something in Skelton that made him look like he would be an attractive addition to our team. Wouldnt it be wise to see what he can do at some point sooner than later? I would also like to know if there is anything that has kept Whiz from putting him out there for a few downs.Why are we keeping our skelton in the closet? Sorry, I couldnt resist that one as corny as it was.

  89. By Darren Urban on Nov 9, 2010 | Reply

    NYCards —

    RE: Skelton

    As I have said before, Skelton isn’t considered ready to play yet. A project for now.

  90. By Ben on Nov 9, 2010 | Reply

    By AndyStandsUp on Nov 9, 2010 | Reply

    will the Chicken Littles be back on the bandwagon?



    I agree with a lot of what you said, I am just pissed that the same things keep happening every week and there are no changes. My biggest problem is Whiz’s playcalling, others have their main gripes.

    With regards to your last sentence.

    First I think anyone that spends time responding to Urban’s posts are that partake in discussion on the forums cannot be called a bandwagon fan. These are guys, myself included, that spend time out of their work week to discuss something that is important to them.

    With regards to the actual bandwagon fans, this is something that the Bidwills better start being scared of, if they do not get a better product on the field soon we could see our first blackout soon followed by many more.

    Warner brought them to the gates, lets hope Whiz (playcalling) doesn’t drive them away.

  91. By georgiebird on Nov 9, 2010 | Reply

    As I have mentioned to you on a few occasions, lets not separate Warner and “the velcro gloves”. Before Warner put on the gloves, he was awful. Warner had competitive years with both Josh McCown and Leinart.
    Only after Warner put on “the velcro gloves” did the fumbling stop and the accuracy improve. So don’t separate Warner from the gloves which in effect made him about the best QB in the league. So very easily- this is why the 10-22 record is dismissed.
    And to all you blaming the offense- I harken back to the SuperBowl when the defense let Pittsburgh go down the field without a stop much in the same way that Farve went down the field 3 times and the Cardinal defense couldn’t make one (1) stop. The offense may be bad but the defense is worse.

  92. By Darren Urban on Nov 9, 2010 | Reply

    Georgie —

    RE: Warner/gloves

    Funny that Kurt wasn’t happy whenever someone suggested the gloves made a big difference.

    So basically you are saying the gloves are what made Warner good again, and coaching didn’t really have much to do with it?

  93. By georgiebird on Nov 9, 2010 | Reply

    That’s exactly what I’m saying. How can Warner go from competing with Josh and Matt to a level that made him one of the top three QBs in the league. If Warner was a young QB at the time- then coaching would have played a part. But Kurt was a finished product when he got to the Cards. At the time, there were many Cards’ fans who were picking McCown & Leinart over Warner in different years. After the gloves, you wouldn’t mention J. McCown and Leinart in the same breath with Warner.
    I want to see Whiz do well-I have 50 years invested in rooting for the Cards. I never had a sporting “high” as when the Cards made the SB. But if I were to grade Whiz as an NFL HC, he would definitely be in the bottom 25%.

  94. By Darren Urban on Nov 9, 2010 | Reply

    Georgie —

    RE: Whiz vs gloves

    I guess we’ll just have to agree to disagree.

  95. By georgiebird on Nov 9, 2010 | Reply

    I appreciate that we were both able to voice our opinion. It’s a good exercise in how people can come down differently given a set of circumstances.
    What I think is most important on this site is that we are all (or mostly) die-hard Cards fans and it hurts us all in different ways when the Cards are not doing well.
    I don’t want to start another controversy but sometimes I feel the losses affect the die-hard fans more than it does the players and coaches.

  96. By Darren Urban on Nov 9, 2010 | Reply

    Georgie —

    RE: Losses hurting

    I work inside this building. Trust me when I say I am sure this isn’t the case.

  97. By louie on Nov 9, 2010 | Reply

    not sure whats up with the rb situation one week beanie next week tim. I would try to get them in the game 45% each on offense and howlings the other 10%. also the boldin trade I might consider the worst in cards history and maybe one of the worst of all time.

  98. By shep on Nov 9, 2010 | Reply

    ultimate card said it all – wisenhunt has to go!

  99. By TucsonTim on Nov 12, 2010 | Reply

    Trying to get caught up, wow! Casey did you forget to take your medicine. I know I go over the top occasionally and hit the submit comment button when I shouldn’t have and my frustration with the organization is obvious, but come on man. Darren’s blog is the closest us ordinary Joe’s are ever going to get to an insiders view.

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