Getting healthier

Posted by Darren Urban on November 26, 2010 – 1:34 pm

Cornerback Greg Toler (foot) was able to work limited Friday, good news for a secondary which could use his return Monday night. Again, because the Cards have a Monday game, today — Friday — was actually Thursday, and tomorrow — Saturday — is actually Friday, if you can follow that. Toler may just be able to maneuver his way to active status by game day. It might be a little tougher for defensive end Calais Campbell, who sat out again with his ankle sprain. Nose tackle Dan Williams was added to the injury report as limited with a sore toe, but he and the rest of the list should be ready by Monday as the Cards wait to see about Toler and Campbell.

That was the biggest news of the day, which felt quiet given the holiday nature of the day-after-Thanksgiving. Well, kind of quiet. The Alabama-Auburn game was on the TVs in the locker room, and ‘Bama alum Rashad Johnson was making  a lot of noise as Alabama jumped out to a 14-0 at the time. The Cards don’t have any Auburn guys, so there was no one in particular to trash talk.

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27 Responses to “Getting healthier”

  1. By Steve on Nov 26, 2010 | Reply

    Darren: If your a betting man do you think there will be a lock-out after the season or do you feel the owners/players association will come to an agreement? Hope your having a nice Thanksgiving.

  2. By Darren Urban on Nov 26, 2010 | Reply

    Steve —

    RE: Lockout

    I think all signs point to a lockout right now, but a lockout doesn’t necessarily mean a loss of regular-season games, either.

  3. By SteveDCO on Nov 26, 2010 | Reply

    D Wash is puling big time for Bama. TCU #2 in the nation and BCS title bond.

  4. By Peter in Canada on Nov 26, 2010 | Reply

    Hope you enjoyed your Thanksgiving. Ours is in October. Glad the Cards are playing Monday because it won’t interfere with our Grey Cup which is on Sunday.

  5. By azcards24 on Nov 26, 2010 | Reply

    darren, Do you think skelton will get a start this season at all or even playing time? Also off the subject do you think wiz will bring in some help as offensive coordinater and if not why is that? i think he could use some more gutsy play calling like haley made dont you?

  6. By Darren Urban on Nov 26, 2010 | Reply

    azcards —

    RE: OC

    As I have said, I think all aspects of the team will be looked at, including the coaching staff.

    As for “gutsy” play calling, it’s always easier to have your play calling look “gutsy” when Kurt Warner is the QB.

  7. By Chuck 1 on Nov 26, 2010 | Reply

    I think that the Cards don’t want to play Skelton this season because they realize that they made a terrible decision in wasting a fifth round draft choice on him and would be embarrassed with his performance.
    I think that he will not make the squad next season.

  8. By Steve on Nov 26, 2010 | Reply

    Well at least one of my teams is doing well, even if everybody and their Mom hates on them every week. War Eagle and Go Cards.

  9. By Eazy E on Nov 26, 2010 | Reply

    Cam Newton and the auburn tigers are freaking amazing! Cam Newton as a cardinal sounds great to me!

  10. By Brian on Nov 26, 2010 | Reply

    Darren do you honestly think the Bidwells want a winner or are they just happy with the rare playoff run? I know it’s a tough question but it’s hard to have any confidence in this ownership, I just don’t wan’t our team to be amongst the Browns, Bengals, Rams and Lions anymore. We need to be a competative team year in and year out. We don’t have to win the divison every year but to fall off the way we did this year has me worried.

  11. By Darren Urban on Nov 26, 2010 | Reply

    Brian —

    RE: Ownership

    Do I think they want a winner? Absolutely. Will they spend like a Snyder or a Jerry Jones? No. That’s not going to happen in even the best of economic times and certainly not now, not with the local economy as such and games in the 2011 being threatened. This is their main business, unlike Snyder/Jones, etc. I think there is a major pattern here after the Pittsburgh Steelers, in terms of how to run a franchise. The Steelers let players go — good players — all the time and pick and choose who to keep long-term.

    I am not saying people should settle for what is happening this season, but the idea the Cards came into this year basically saying, ‘We had a good run, now let’s pack it in and collect money’ is ridiculous. There are unhappy people all the way up the food chain with the losing streak. It’s not just the fans.

    They will probably need to change some things after the season, barring an impressive turnaround the last six games. That happens. But again, I hate to keep coming back to it, but losing Warner impacts quite a bit — even if you argue they should have been better prepared/got a different QB. I can’t say it enough — they didn’t/don’t have interest in McNabb. You could suggest Bulger or even Leinart, but no one really knows if that would have impacted them enough (especially with the way the defense has played).

    If Peyton Manning retired after the season, how good do you think the Colts would be next year, even if they got, for instance, McNabb? Marc Bulger? If the Patriots had Tom Brady retire? Those guys don’t grow on trees. The Cards have to find a way to find a long-term QB. If they do, they’ll be competitive year in and year out. If they don’t, it’ll be much tougher. And the same goes for any team in the NFL.

  12. By NJAzCardsFan on Nov 26, 2010 | Reply

    If one has been a Cards fan for the last 40+ years the number one problem the team has had- they have been lacking a quality long term QB. Those teams in the NFL that have had a quality long term QB are usually the perennial playoff contenders.

  13. By Peter in Canada on Nov 26, 2010 | Reply

    Darren- Great response to Brian. You didn’t say anything that I can’t honestly agree with. I think the Bidwills are being unfairly villified by some posters on this blog.

  14. By AndyStandsUp on Nov 26, 2010 | Reply

    I know it’s a QB driven league, Darren, but I disagree on how the Colts and Patriots would fare if Manning or Brady retired.
    Jim Sorgi really never had a chance to prove himself and Matt Casel was lights out for one season when Tom went down.
    To me, it’s the system and I truly believe that the Cards thought that Leinart wasn’t the missing puzzle piece but that Derek Anderson, and more importantly, Max Hall, would be “the guy” to best fill Warner’s shoes.
    Either an extreme oversight or a better prognisticator than Nostradamus.

  15. By joe67 on Nov 27, 2010 | Reply

    I agree with Peter (and you) Darren, wholeheartedly! This org is not the old Cardinals. Do we really want an owner to throw money around like Snyder? What has it done for the Redskins??!!

  16. By Jones from IL on Nov 27, 2010 | Reply

    I think private QB lessons from Warner would help DA and Max Hall

  17. By Brad O Neill on Nov 27, 2010 | Reply

    in defense of the Bidwill’s, i have to say they have brought in big name quarterbacks in the past. And they have spent real money on this team. The players that were let go really weren’t living up to the hype and certainly were not worth the money they received with the possible exception of Boldin. (but with him it wasn’t about money, so much as a perceived broken promise.)

    Dansby has been a huge loss on defense. but I think that is largely because our defense was geared to run specifically through him (and it wasn’t particularly effective at stopping people it just let him generate monster numbers) So the change was definitely justified.

    For years the Bidwill’s ran the cardinals purely as a business concerned primarily with keeping the team solvent. Many teams were owned by people who treated them as an ego boost and a hobby whereas the Bidwills did not have the luxury of multiple streams of income from various sources to fund their weekend warriors.

    One thing that has been consistent with the Bidwill’s is their generous nature in the community. They quietly donate money to many many many worthy causes and when it benefits the charity they often lend the name of the organization to help. Players are also involved in personal ways with lots of events every year.

    This is a team every fan can be proud of. We may be on our first down year in a while but i have faith that this team will emerge stronger because its core is solid.

  18. By TucsonTim on Nov 27, 2010 | Reply

    Darren –

    Wow, what a response to ownership. I missed the part where they decided to go forward with 19 mil less in payroll after letting 4 playmakers walk. I also missed the part where they dropped below the “cap” floor. I also missed the part where they thought Max Hall the undrafted rookie QB backup making $400Kwas a good football decision.

    Did they start reading the blog and ask you about your loyalty???

  19. By Darren Urban on Nov 27, 2010 | Reply

    Tucson —

    RE: Ownership

    You’re right Tim. My bad. They want to lose. I should have kept it simple. I apologize.

  20. By TucsonTim on Nov 27, 2010 | Reply

    Brad –

    Could you educate me about all of the good the Bidwills have done for the community. They got a 600+ million stadiium for free after they sold the naming rights to Univ of PHX. How are the 100’s of mil the tax payers paid for this stadium so the Cards could field a competetive product is being repaid now?

    M Bidwill promised ON THE RECORD that he would use that Univ of PHX money to acquire FA’s and make the Cardinals competetive. Do you think that acquiring DA over McNabb made the Cards a seriously competetively NFL franchise???

  21. By TucsonTim on Nov 27, 2010 | Reply

    BTW Darren –

    I don’t think for a minute the Colts would be caught so absolutely flat footed about their QB retiring. I think they might actually have a plan for the future. They might even for example acquire Troy Smith for absolutely nothing after trading away a HOF WR

  22. By TucsonTim on Nov 27, 2010 | Reply

    It’s not about wanting to lose. It’s about not caring

  23. By Darren Urban on Nov 27, 2010 | Reply

    Tucson —

    RE: “wanting to lose” vs. “not caring”

    What’s the difference?

  24. By TucsonTim on Nov 27, 2010 | Reply

    A lot if you’re a real fan

  25. By Darren Urban on Nov 27, 2010 | Reply

    Tucson —

    RE: The question

    You didn’t answer the question. I am saying there is no difference. You are. So explain it to me.

  26. By brad Oneill on Nov 28, 2010 | Reply

    tuscon Tim- The Bidwills have contributed to the big brothers program not only making players available for a wonderful dinner and tickets and merchandise for the kids but also offering up tickets for a discount to families of volunteers, They have quietly cut checks on occasion to people and organizations that need a hand. it wouldn’t be appropriate for me to make public something the Bidwill’s did privately so i will just say that i appreciate what I have seen.

    if you ever have the good fortune to attend a charity auction in the valley you will most likely see some cardinals merchandise being offered up. They don’t mug for the cameras when they are helping, they simply do their part and move on. Yes there are a few press events like when they head to the homeless shelter and serve meals but you can bet for everything you see on channel 12 there are several things done that you never hear about.

    as for competitive nature of the cards
    If you look at the Cardinals team in the preseason i think it would be fair to say they looked pretty competitive. They did not choose to lose warner he retired. They didn’t get mcnabb because they had lienart. They didnt bring in derek on the cheap hoping to save a few bucks. they simply failed to make lienart work and cut their losses a little too late.
    cardinals solution- still looking.

    as for losing boldin- yea it was a shame to lose a player like that. but its not like we didn’t have a great number 2 ready to step in.
    Solution- Breaston has been a bright spot in a bad passing game.

    dansby- a great player with a great motor but was the key to a defense that wasn’t working.
    cards solution- drafting Washington- jury is still out but its hard not to be excited about the future.

    Rolle- way over paid, over rated player, big plays are nice but how about the regular plays that just didnt get done?
    cards solution- Kerry Rhodes a definite upgrade

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