Whiz talks change

Posted by Darren Urban on January 3, 2011 – 11:42 am

Coach Ken Whisenhunt just had his season-ending presser. Change is coming, he said — “When you go 5-11 … it has to be that way” — but he was short on specifics. Not a shock. Whisenhunt isn’t going to call people out publicly. Never has been his style.

–Very interesting comment from Whisenhunt about how “sometimes you get emotionally attached to players and what they have done for you in the past.”

“You may have a tendency to overlook certain things … When you win games, sometimes you let things slip a little bit, ‘OK, he didn’t make this play, he’ll make it the next time.’ That builds up over time and you start evaluating players based on what you remember them doing a year or two or three or four ago and maybe not candidly assessing where they are right now. That’s an easy trap to fall into … and you have to work past that.

So be more cold-hearted? “There’s a fine line there.”

As for players who underachieved this season, that has to change. “Their goodwill is used up.” And as for the “star” players, “Some of our best players didn’t play at their best.”

Let the speculation begin on which players about whom he is speaking.

I know this, that safety Adrian Wilson said while some players cared, some didn’t. He said sometimes, it was “hidden” to many. Asked if he could still see it, Wilson said “I’ve been here 10 years. I’ve seen a lot of bull(bleep).”

— There is a story out there saying WR coach John McNulty was the front-runner for the University of Miami offensive coordinator job. Whisenhunt said McNulty said he has not been contacted about the position. It’s just a rumor for now.

— Speaking of the coaching staff, Whisenhunt said he wasn’t saying anything less than 24 hours removed from the last game. “We have started the process already of evaluating and we are going to evaluate everything (including coaches). I know there will be changes, I don’t know what that will encompass, but we are going to work to make sure we don’t have another season like this.”

Something to keep in mind: With the labor uncertainty and the possibility the offseason could be lost, Whisenhunt said teams must be careful about new coaches and new schemes because there’s a chance there will only be three weeks or so to implement anything new, rather than a whole offseason. That’s a factor right now.

— Passing game coordinator Mike Miller could end up as the playcaller next season. But Whisenhunt, asked if he thought his own playcalling made it hard for him to manage the big picture, noted the 10 wins the Cards had in 2009 when he was calling plays. “What you have to be careful about is basing it off of one season (this season). I don’t feel like it does (hurt us).”

— Whisenhunt didn’t change his thoughts on the handling of the quarterback situation, after being asked directly about having regrets or second-guessing on the situation. “I think we were fair and honest about the process.”

He was asked if he felt Matt Leinart would have provided more wins.

“That’s a question I don’t think can ever be answered,” Whisenhunt said. “I did what I felt was in the best interest of our team at the time. It was based on performance, it was based on the reaction of the team to the players and who was in there and the confidence our team had in the position being able to execute. That’s what it was all about. It was based on the work in the offseason and the work in OTAs and training camp. That’s the way you have to evaluate players. Who knows? It’s a question that can’t be answered, but I am sure it is a popular topic.”

— LB Clark Haggans (sports hernia) and CB Michael Adams (shoulder) are the two players scheduled for offseason surgery for now.

Here’s a shot of Wilson and Kerry Rhodes wrapping things up. More later today on the homepage.

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116 Responses to “Whiz talks change”

  1. By B on Jan 3, 2011 | Reply

    Cards w/Leinart this year=7-9 maybe 8-8…playoffs.

    What a waste of a season.

  2. By Tyrelle on Jan 3, 2011 | Reply

    Is Kerry talking about retiring? He said on twitter, if you are a successful football player and have other interests and goals would you let it go? Meanwhile I’m glad that a change is coming

  3. By Christo on Jan 3, 2011 | Reply

    Do you think Whiz realizes that HE has used up most of his goodwill?

  4. By Darren Urban on Jan 3, 2011 | Reply

    Christo —

    RE: Goodwill

    As coach, he only needs to worry about the goodwill he has with one guy — Michael Bidwill. The rest, in the end, doesn’t matter, if we are being honest.

    If he keeps losing, he will eventually be replaced. If he wins again, fans will love him again.

  5. By Adam on Jan 3, 2011 | Reply

    Whisenhunt has been making up excuses for guys since he has been the coach. He doesn’t like confrontation, in turn he lets too many things slide. True leaders are detailed and don’t let things slide. Again, he is too nice to be a head coach. What he needs to do is hire coaches that are strict and detailed so he doesn’t have to do something that he is afraid to do (Confront players). This team has as much talent as any team in the NFL but didn’t play up to their abilities because of the inconsistency in the WHOLE coaching staff. If you want to challenge the talent on the team please explain to me how they beat the Saints and the Cowboys. Whisenhunt just said things today that shows that he is not capable of being a head coach in the NFL. There will be a myriad of coaches out there to make this team relevant. Lets see if Coach Whisenhunt really wants to be relevant again and go get some true coaches that know what they are doing. Let me tell you what I would do if I were Whiz.
    Whisenhunt should fire Billy Davis and do whatever he can to bring in Mike Singletary as the Defensive Coordinator. Billy Davis’ defenses give up too many points. No other category matters except the one he is worst at.. Giving up POINTS!!! Draft a Mike Linebacker in the first Round because Hayes is run down and bring in a true tight end that can stretch the field. Don’t bring Joey Porter back. Move Adrian Wilson to Will linebacker and sign a free agent strong safety from another team. Wilson is way too slow and isn’t getting younger. This team is just a bunch of quitters. Look how they played in the last game against the 49ers. They got trounced!! It’s all Whisenhunts fault. He is too nice and weak to be a head coach. Get rid of Matt Raich, Get rid of half of the coaching staff and bring in some coaches with some true football acumen and leadership skills. This coaching staff is the reason none of the players are motivated to play hard each week and glad the season is over with. If most of the coaching staff underneath Whiz is here next season the record will always stay below 6 wins. Teams that you don’t have to coach much come around once in every blue moon and sometimes never. Whiz can’t think he is just gonna have those types of players again from the playoff and superbowl years. Now, Whiz has to really coach and show he knows what he is doing. If you ask me. He (Whiz) doesn’t know how to build and develop a winning mindset on team. He lacks too many of the key intangibles that great coaches have. Til next year! It was real, it was fun but it wasn’t real fun!

  6. By Darren Urban on Jan 3, 2011 | Reply

    Adam —

    RE: Whiz/confrontation

    Explain to me how you know he doesn’t confront players?

    He doesn’t throw them under the bus publicly. He’s not the only coach to subscribe to such a theory. But how do you know he is too nice? Do you know players that tell you that?

  7. By Moose Dog on Jan 3, 2011 | Reply

    Tough to call… QB situation is tough to call. Skelton looks promising but not in a big way. New QB in draft is not going to help next year. I think we have to break the bank and take a shot at McNabb and ride that horse for one or two years while rookie QB develops. We need some coaching changes… Offensive and Defensive. Sure would be nice to get killer middle linebacker. DRC needs a leader in his face to challenged/motivate him, he’s got an attitude problem that may just move him on. OL gave up way to many sacks even with rookie QB’s. Running game showed promise but Wiz is too quick to go to pass when down by a TD. Hightower is solid but a target by everyone for fumble, Beanie needs an offensive scheme built around him running and I don’t know if the Cards want to do that with the quality receivers they have. If we get a McNabb quality QB I think we can at least patch the holes and make it to playoffs next year otherwise I think we are looking at 8 and 8 maybe.

  8. By rmg372 on Jan 3, 2011 | Reply

    Hello Darren,

    Do know if or when they are going to put the presser on the website?

  9. By Darren Urban on Jan 3, 2011 | Reply

    rmg —

    RE: Presser

    It’s posted.

  10. By serge on Jan 3, 2011 | Reply

    I can’t wait for next season and hope there is no lock out. I also think will see what coach Whiz can do next yr. It will tell us a lot about of what kind of coach he is. The players Cards were successful with were ol Greens players.

  11. By Christo on Jan 3, 2011 | Reply

    Darren aside from losing, which is the quickest way out for Whiz. I would think his goodwill with the fans is pretty important. We fill the seats and buy the merchandise. Although I get what you are saying.

  12. By RARE LONGTIME FAN on Jan 3, 2011 | Reply

    @ MOOSE Dog.. you have some good points, SOME. but are you kidding me? Darrel Washingtons going to be a Premeire LB in this league! and Adrian Wilson IS THE LEADER he gets everyones face if he needs to. DRCs a play maker i dont see why your mad at him his attitudes fine he plays every play does he not? trys to block every kick too.. We need another old man QB to groom Skelton, Collins Or Mcnabb.. Surely Skelton has ALL the TOOLS… But First things First we need to Get Fitzgerald locked in! Give him a big Contract.. Then in the Draft get another DE fill the Bertrand Berry Void. or another Corner Back a taller one to compliment DRC… Or an OLINEman we need to Protect the QB and Open some Holes up!.. Finally We NEED NEED NEED A BIG TIGHT END!!! who can Catch! well be solid next year we just had terrible QB Play i believe Leinart would have kept us in the Playoffs he knew the System better than anyone! Disappointing that it all worked out the way it did.

  13. By Bill L on Jan 3, 2011 | Reply

    Offseason, OTAs, Training Camp??? ….More BS from Whiz….as I Recall, Whiz seems unable, Matt was #1 in the Offseason…….Matt was #1 in OTAs……Matt was #1 in Training Camp….

    Now, on to the expected fix……the Cardinals way. Pay a TOP FA QB and PAY for an Overreached QB at #5(Newton)…….PAY for 2 Starters…..not the Cardinals way. Heck, they wouldn’t Pay one starter this year. So here we go, pay a top Backup, something better than DA(which shouldn’t be hard to find), then overdraft Newton. If it works, the Cards will have a starter in Newton and an overpaid backup. If it doesn’t the Cards(fans) will suffer on with a backup…..for years….like 5. We get a backup, a bust, and the really good player we didn’t draft…..but, saved a few bucks…..again.

  14. By georgiebird on Jan 3, 2011 | Reply

    If there ever was a year to be negative-this was the year. It makes me laugh when someone says ” we have so much talent”
    The talent is about four guys Fitz, LSH, Feely and Graham. The rest of the team is made up with guys with serious shortcomings.
    Levi, Sendlein, Bridges, Toler- average talent
    Doucet, Beanie, Breaston, Ben P., Will- injury prone
    Campbell, Watson, Branch,DRC –underachievers
    Faneca, BRod, Haggans,,Lenon, Porter, A-dub and maybe DD- over the hill
    D Washington and OB- undersized for a 3-4 scheme

    Even our best defensive player, Rhodes, is better on a relative basis than the others, but the Jets were glad to get rid of him.
    There’s a lot of work to do- the division is getting better. If you’re not part of the solution, you’re part of the problem. Whiz’ goodwill has been used up-it’s time to produce without Warner.

  15. By darrel on Jan 3, 2011 | Reply

    Darren does whiz have. Ties to tony sparano dolphins coach

  16. By Darren Urban on Jan 3, 2011 | Reply

    Darrel —

    RE: Sparano

    Not that I know of, although there is a Parcells connection.

  17. By az1965 on Jan 3, 2011 | Reply

    Regarding “emotinally attached”… he may be talking about Porter. Just a guess. It could have been other existing players from previous years.

    I really hope the coaching staff is strongly evaluated. I believe some of the issues of players attitude and lack of progress is related to lack of proper coaching (DRC, Beanie, Campbell…). All these players have so much talent but it is not properly utilized and their shortcomings are not being addressed to move these players to the next echelon of impacting players.

  18. By 98CardsFan on Jan 3, 2011 | Reply

    Ask Parcells to add/bring in players to be successful, whiz has run this cabinet thin. After reloading maybe he will be successful again. “What have you done for me lately?”, personally in this economy i funneled hard earned money(merchandise, tickets, paraphanalia) to a team that, well, has yet to be consistent. 13 years of this is too much, i’ll watch the games and root for the REAL cardinals, not afc north trash, but never will i spend one dime to this team next year. And that was my new years resolution…

  19. By darrel on Jan 3, 2011 | Reply

    Darren I would keep haggans/poter only if they rotated with each other there just too old To play together At the same time Could You See this happening and then we draft or sign antoher olb it would give us a lot depth

  20. By Mike Ellingboe on Jan 3, 2011 | Reply

    Let the speculation begin on which players about whom he is speaking.

    I’ll throw out a couple of former first rounders as a guess (DRC & Levi). Possibly Hightower, Calais & Patrick as well.

  21. By Mike S on Jan 3, 2011 | Reply

    Az needs to hire Marvin Lewis ( soon to be former head coach of the Bengals ) as the Defensive Co-Ordinator. It would be the best off season move this team could do currently . It’ll set a tone .

  22. By RichardI on Jan 3, 2011 | Reply

    It’s pathetic how quickly fans will throw a head coach under a bus… The team had A LOT of huge changes going into 2010… A LOT! I’m interested to see how Whiz and the front office fill these holes – I for one am confident they’ll do so… I also think that 2011 will be a much tougher year for the NFC West… So there will be little room for mistakes and little time to grow rookie players in 2011, so I’d look for some big trades and big free agency moves…

  23. By Ottis Anderson Fan on Jan 3, 2011 | Reply

    A very, very honest and blunt assessment by Whiz of his team. What a refreshing change. Heads are going to roll which means hope is on the way. It couldn’t get any worse for this team than it did in 2010.

  24. By TucsonTim on Jan 3, 2011 | Reply

    Whiz called 561 passing plays and 320 running plays on a team with no QB. Even with 10 wins last year the offense got worse in every category except rushing in 2009. Whiz hire an OC and let them call the plays. You’ve got way to much on you plate to do both.

  25. By Dan Crowell on Jan 3, 2011 | Reply

    Adam, you’re right on the money! A better coaching staff and we would have made the playoffs, no matter who played Qb. I’ve been saying all year Whiz looks lost and shows NO emotion during the game. Russ Grimm has to go too. Why do you need a pass coordinator and a run coordinator? That’s the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard. Get an offensive coordinator,a defensive coordinator (NOT DAVIS), and Mcnabb for a year or so. That might just keep Fitz in Arizona. If no Mcnabb, I think Fitz will be gone.

  26. By 949Cardsfan on Jan 3, 2011 | Reply

    Other than the most obvious problem with our team, QB. Has anyone noticed, we have very few, if any players playing in there prime? The entire roster seems to be filled with players well past their prime, or in their 1st or 2nd year. No team wins with a mixture like that. 90 and Fitzgerald are the only 2 players that are at the top if their game. management has done a terrible job bringing in vets with any productivity left, ex. Porter, Faneca, P Lenon. We have a good, very young core, that shows lots of promise. now bring In a a couple impact vets, and more importantly, a coaching staff that can develope that.

  27. By Mike Ellingboe on Jan 3, 2011 | Reply

    @Moose Dog,

    Agree with a lot of what you said but why don’t you think a rookie QB could contribute next season? I’d say that both Luck and Gabbert have better physical skills than Bradford and I don’t think it will be long before Newton and Mallett make their mark at the next level. Of course, to your point who knows which/if any of them will declare for the draft (would be very surprised if none of them did).

  28. By Steve on Jan 3, 2011 | Reply

    Did someone suggest Mike Singletary as a DC? Really? With the pool of former head coaches who have been good DCs in the past, Singletary is the choice? This guy hasn’t ever been a DC, everytime he speaks in public he makes very little sense. If Singletary gets a job any better than LB coach then he is robbing someone.

  29. By Jesse Robles on Jan 3, 2011 | Reply

    I will never like Whiz again, I know his GLORY years were all because of Warner, if we win again it will NOT be because of Whiz and his SCARED self. Whiz is SOFT that is why the Cards play SOFT. Whiz doesn’t play, the players do.

  30. By califlyguy on Jan 3, 2011 | Reply

    So what plans for the off season! I think you need to let the fingers rest! lol
    Good job on this year and all the up to date info!

  31. By KyCardsfan on Jan 3, 2011 | Reply

    I love whiz as a coach and I am behind him, but there are some issues with his playcalling…sure he can fall back on 2009 and say we shouldn’t base it off of one season (this season) but in 2009 we had a HOF QB, that’s why his playcalling worked then. With the QB struggles this year I believe any other OC wouldve worked the run game in a lot more. Not sure if u heard Mora questioning his playcalling but even he realized whiz abandoned the run and we were only a TD down. That being said, and whiz saying he doesn’t feel it hurt us….

    Do you see a new OC in our future?

    Thanks for everything you do Darren, you are tha man!

  32. By Darren Urban on Jan 3, 2011 | Reply

    KyCards —

    RE: OC

    Do not know. Wouldn’t be surprised either way.

  33. By Peter in Canada on Jan 3, 2011 | Reply

    Most of Wiz’s problems came from having QB’s who could not sustain drives. All the other problems began to grow from that. Those who say Leinart would have made a difference are pipe dreaming. We must get a veteran QB who can rectify that problem. Then we can use the draft to get as Adam says a run-stuffing LB, which was a major problem with the D. Playing in the NFC West, means we can quickly get back on top if our needs are met.

  34. By Judy on Jan 3, 2011 | Reply

    What does he mean by saying he picked the player,that the other players responded to the best.I assume he was talking about the QB position.It is his job to pick the best player in that position.And his job to see that the other players do their jobs with the player he chooses.He sounds as if he let the players choose, who the QB would be.Everyone i have talked to who went to TC has sad all along that Leinart was the best of the 4 QB there,and that DA was the worst,yet Wiz picked DA to start, WHY,WHY WHY?

  35. By Voice of Reason on Jan 3, 2011 | Reply

    Wish Graves was under the same scrutiny. As the GM, your JOB is, among other things, to bring in players where there is an obvious need and extend to-be free agents during the season. He did neither.

    I think Michael Bidwill would have done better – far better, in fact – himself and they could have used the money they pay Graves on a quarterback that would have won the division (as many were available in Week 3).

    I thought the play calling actually got worse as the year went on, and coincidentally, this was when Mike Miller had more of the reigns. Passing the ball 65% of the time when you have zero quarterbacks that complete 50% of their passes, not to mention a line that isn’t the best at pass protection, is just crazy. Especially when Fitzgerald was often not the main target.

    Whiz is a smart guy, and he needs to do the smart thing here. Follow what Todd Haley did. Hire a legit OC and a legit DC. Pay a little extra if you need to. Let Bryan Robinson retire, and then bring him back as the D-line coach (where I think he is a real talent). Let Russ Grimm (and the $1 million+ salary) go to Carolina, and use the dough on coordinators, not position coaches. Fire Graves and hire a young assistant GM that has worked under Paoli, Parcells or Holmgren.

    And for heaven’s sake — cut DA and Max Hall now.

    Do not let the labor stoppage be this year’s excuse. There is nothing preventing the team from talking to coordinators not currently under contract (McDaniels/Mangini). Is Mike Nolan under contract with the Dolphins for next year? If not, talk to him too.

    Again — be proactive.

  36. By Voice of Reason on Jan 3, 2011 | Reply

    Another thought — what about Jim Mora Jr. as a possible DC candidate? Certainly has an intimate knowledge of the NFC West…

    But that’s how you make a splash with a pending labor crisis. Don’t use it as an excuse to sit on your hands. Good organizations don’t do that.

  37. By Joe De Silva on Jan 3, 2011 | Reply

    Darren, in your opinion do you think Leinart would have given us more wins this season? So many people say we would have been a playoff team with him but I have no idea what they are basing that on. Bottom line, do you think with hindsight cutting him was a mistake?

  38. By Darren Urban on Jan 3, 2011 | Reply

    Joe —

    RE: Leinart release

    Obviously, in hindsight it was a mistake, if for no other reason that it would have given you another possibility. At the time, I said I would have kept him.

    But I do not think Leinart wanted to stay as a backup, no matter what the chances of him playing again were, and I think that was one of the issues.

    And as for making the playoffs, I think anyone who insists they know how that would’ve turned out is fooling themselves. Possible? Why not? But given his track record, no way to know (although I am sure someone will tell me otherwise).

  39. By brad oneill on Jan 3, 2011 | Reply

    whiz may not be a yeller like Haley but you can bet behind closed doors he lights people up that disappoint him.

    I really felt that the lienart situatiion showed a major lack of communication within the team. I don’t know if they will pursue a coach that is more of a player advocate and on the other side a coach that will yell on the sideline like haley used to do but I thiink the coaches tend to reflect whizs calm demeanor and maybe we need a screamer or two.

  40. By David C. on Jan 3, 2011 | Reply

    My money’s on Whisenhunt being terminated during the bye week next year.

    Darren, is there any internal interest in Alex Smith? What about Brady Quinn? Both quarterbacks seem to have the intangibles Whisenhunt seeks in a quarterback.

  41. By Darren Urban on Jan 3, 2011 | Reply

    David C —

    RE: Whiz out/QB

    I’ll take that bet.

  42. By MikeG on Jan 3, 2011 | Reply

    Hey Darren–Really a frustrating loss by the Card’s yesterday. The second half of that game was tough to watch –both sides. Why the 49er’s with a big lead kept throwing the ball was absolutely crazy. The running game in football seems like it is becoming obsolete at times. I would have kept Skelton in there at QB. Do you know that Bartel threw 28 times in a little over a QTR. I don’t know if I ever seen that many throws. I think one of the things this year for the Card’s is that they never established an identity. There will be a lot of changes-so we will see what happens. I think a lot of veterans are on the hot seat! Porter, Robinson, Hayes etc…. This will be a big draft year more than ever. It was a soul searching year–and I don’t really know what we found out. It did turn out the West was won with a 7-9 record!! Crazy!! Which part of the Cardinals game throughout the year exceeded your expectations???? Special teams??? or Return TD’S??

  43. By Darren Urban on Jan 3, 2011 | Reply

    MikeG —

    RE: Expectations

    Nothing exceeded my expectations. Hopefully nothing did.

  44. By tom manoogian on Jan 3, 2011 | Reply

    it was a season that let all cardinal fans down.offense can’t block for the run,can’t protect for the pass,defensive is what it was,the worst,no gap play,just ruunning around like little pressure on other teams qb,terrible pass coverage,my goodness,you hate to be a negative person,i’ve been a cards fan over 45 years,before some of you even knew where they had been before coming to az.that does not mean i’m the best fan,it just means i’ve been through alot more bad years.i think whiz dropped the ball in preseason and he could not right the think 8 games got to the playoffs,to think we have lost 4 straight to the 49ers.i honestly think this year we had a team that felt sorry for themselves,and that is where you get 5 wins.big time changes will have to happen,but THIS team will NEVERwin more than 7 games at best.maybe next year instead of taking a practice off to go bowling,remind the players of this years record,that in it self should make everyone want to practice instead of bowling.if i haven’t stopped being a fan by now,i never was fun those last couple of years,who knows,maybe next year.either way i’ll still be here rooting for the cards and hoping for better days ahead.

  45. By jwimmer2 on Jan 3, 2011 | Reply


    Blaine Gabbert of Mizzou has announced he is entering the NFL draft, and is projected at a 5th pick position in the 1st round. Guess who has the 5th pick.

  46. By Mike Ellingboe on Jan 3, 2011 | Reply


    Are you serious about the Whiz not being capable of being a head coach? How much money would any of us have if we would have placed a bet when he was hired that he’d have us in the Super Bowl in two years? One bad season doesn’t mean he can’t coach. If that’s your criteria then Bill Parcells, Bill Belichick, Bill Cowher, Don Shula, Joe Gibbs, etc, etc., etc., can’t coach either.

  47. By Rob on Jan 3, 2011 | Reply

    Adam, you are an idiot. End of story. Whisenhunt knows winning culture, he came from the program that has won the most super bowls in NFL history. He took a team full of “potential” guys and coached them to a super bowl, and until this season their record had improved every year. No confrontation? Do you remember when he benched Edgerrin James for a rookie Timmy Hightower, or how about the way he handled the Leinart situation? He took control and made moves. We can judge them all we want now, but it would be tough to say they should’ve been handled any different at the time. The quarterback play was the reason for our trouble this year. How can the defense even want to play when the O goes 3 and out every possession? They were on the field for what seemed like entire games at a time. Yeah, they gave up a ton of points, and have tons of room for improvement, but they might’ve scored more points than the offense this year. A lot of things could use an upgrade, but that can be said for about every team in the NFL save three or four at this time of year. I just would love to see you say some of this stuff to Whisenhunt’s face, if you called him “weak” or said he was “afraid” I guarantee he would knock your a** out.

  48. By CMacyn on Jan 3, 2011 | Reply

    Darren- I’m seeing a lot of mock drafts that have the Cardinals taking Da’Quan Bowers at #5. This does not make sense to me seeing as how we have DD, CC, DW, and Branch. Does this make sense to you? GO Cards

  49. By Darren Urban on Jan 3, 2011 | Reply

    CMacyn —

    RE: Mock pick

    A mock draft in January is stupid. Period.

  50. By TXcardsfan on Jan 3, 2011 | Reply

    Darren –

    RE: Whiz/confrontation

    The players told us he is too nice with a 5-11 record and a 7 game losing streak. You don’t lose 7 games in a row when you are busting peoples chops every week. I agree with Adam we need ball busting OC and DC. Mike Singletary for DC.

  51. By Darren Urban on Jan 3, 2011 | Reply

    Txcards —

    RE: Busting chops

    The 49ers beg to differ.

    And how do you account for the fact the Cards didn’t lose back-to-back games all season in 2009? Same coaching staff. Same Whiz personality.

    Look, I am all for searching for the whys after 5-11. But seriously …

  52. By Pat on Jan 3, 2011 | Reply

    Darren, re Whiz confrontation, these players are not held accountable by the staff and do not show the intensity we see from successful teams. To be successful in biz and sports you must be consistent with your effort to be consistent in your results. Adrian Wilson is trying to tell you that this is not a hallmark of this team. Look at DRC and his effort. The only time I see him hustle is if he makes an interception or tries to block a field goal. This speaks to Whiz and his staff not holding the players accountable. I don’t see anyone benched for attitude or lack of effort. Just for fumbling. That offensive line still had false starts in week 17 in a half empty stadium. That is lack of focus. Grimm got into the HOF for his playing ability, not for his coaching. Just the fact that Whiz thinks he is still ok to call plays tells you something about his lack of introspection and honesty. Your article says Mike Miller mayntake over the play calling. Wow, there’s a step up. You can get someone to do it without paying them any extra. That should solve a lot of the issues. His staff, like him, is very week. Haley coached up the receivers to a high level and Warner too. Those days are gone. One more year of your pal, Whiz, and he will be gone too. Then you can sugar coat it for the next coach, or maybe they will replace you too and give us someone who provides honest insider criticism, both good and bad. What are your thoughts on his staff? Are you comfortable with Grimm keeping his job? Davis? Tell us yes or no. Should provide some interesting reading from an insider like yourself. Give us your honest opinion, we give you ours. We would all like to have your access so we can ask the questions you don’t, and we would demand an answer.

  53. By Darren Urban on Jan 3, 2011 | Reply

    Pat —

    RE: Access

    Yes Pat, you are simply better than me. I should be fired.

  54. By Christo on Jan 3, 2011 | Reply

    Any idea on the inaction?

    Why wait? Send out the signals Arizona needs an OC, a DC, and an Offensive Line Coach. If that does not happen it is clear that we also need a GM.

    Really the hesitation is alarming. People are being interviewed, retained, fired, we have nothing going on!!

  55. By Pat on Jan 3, 2011 | Reply

    Darren re access, your lack of answer says it all. Not a question if I or any of us are better than you.

  56. By Darren Urban on Jan 3, 2011 | Reply

    Pat —

    RE: Non-answer

    Tell me Pat, if I came to your place of work and insulted you, would you be all that excited to help me?

  57. By ross on Jan 3, 2011 | Reply

    I think whiz did a nice job in his presser. Now I want to see how the offseason goes. Keep Hightower and give him the darn ball. Make Beanie the short yardage and goal line back. He can’t stay healthy with a full load. And bring in a OC who runs a zone blocking scheme a la shanahan. Tim and Beanie would put up 2000 yards.

  58. By TXcardsfan on Jan 3, 2011 | Reply


    RE: Busting chops

    “The 49ers beg to differ.”
    Since Mike Singletary took over the 49ers in October 20, 2008 they went 4-1 against the Cardinals. I’m not saying he is a good head coach but his passion and accountability would be welcomed to a defense that seems to only know how to underachieve. As for no back to back losses in 09 that can be explained by a team full of Veteran leadership that could handle a hand’s off coaching approach. All I’m saying is the goodwill should have left around week 9 not after the season when the tough questions are on the GM not the head coach. I’m all for Whiz but we need a OC and DC and ACCOUNTABILITY.

  59. By CMacyn on Jan 3, 2011 | Reply

    Darren- Point taken but in your perspective do you see us taking a DE with the 5th overall pick and if not what do you feel is a need for the team (QB excluded) Thanks

  60. By Darren Urban on Jan 3, 2011 | Reply

    CMacyn —

    RE: First pick

    Could I see a pass rusher? Sure. But I have no idea who will be available or what is out there. The draft is a topic I don’t get serious about until February’s combine. It’s not until late-April. There will e plenty of time for speculation.

  61. By Bill L on Jan 3, 2011 | Reply

    Here’s a GREAT Idea……Let’s go into NEXT season with a Journeyman QB that was run out of Cleveland, a 5th round rookie pick and an undrafted free agent rookie…………………..IF THAT Guy isn’t FIRED then Nobody should be……’cuz THAT is the MOST STUPID decision I have ever heard of…….not just football. ANYWHERE!!!!!

  62. By Darren Urban on Jan 3, 2011 | Reply

    Bill L —

    RE: Most stupid decision

    You must lead a very sheltered life.

  63. By Tim on Jan 3, 2011 | Reply

    RE: Adsm

    Totally agree with Rob. Nice comment!

  64. By Kevin on Jan 3, 2011 | Reply

    Crappy way to end the year, but at least we get a higher draft pick. Now, how to use it…? I really don’t know what to think about the QB situation. Skelton sure looked good in the pocket sometimes in his 4 starts and made some plays shaking off tacklers, etc. occasionally, but the results when you look at the final #’s were very DA-like… 47.6% completion percentage, and 3 out of 4 games with a QB rating of 60 or less (and the one game where he had a rating of 82 is primarily because of a single 70+ yard TD completion to Roberts where the defender made a horrible move and fell down). You can give him the benefit of the doubt based on not getting a lot of practice time with the first team, etc., but it’s hard to know whether we have a potential QB of the future here or at best a backup QB which we have a lot of. He did win 2 of 4 starts but the Denver game really anyone should have won (15 for 37 with 3.9 yards per attempt, even DA or Max could do — heck, Max won his first start against the defending SB champions), he couldn’t muster any offense vs. the (at the time) 1-win Panthers, and the only reason we beat Dallas was 2 pick 6’s. Having said all that, we have so many other problems that I don’t know about drafting a QB. I think I’m in the camp with those who want us to go get a vet — it’s easy to say “someone better than DA” although it’s not like a bunch of solid QB’s are just sitting there without jobs; there’s a reason they don’t have one.

    I still think Whiz (and all us fans) can stop worrying about the Leinart decision. I don’t know if this team wins 5, 6 or even 8 games with him, but they sure as heck weren’t going very far with or without him. And the bottom line is that when we released him, the best he could get was a backup role on a 6-10 team. Now, I wouldn’t have expected him to challenge Schaub who is a good QB, but the point is, plenty of teams have QB issues, and none of them jumped at the chance to pick up Leinart before Houston made him a third-stringer. That should tell us something.

  65. By Scott H on Jan 3, 2011 | Reply

    Well, in my humble opinion, the changes need to start with Whiz himself. No, I don’t mean that he needs to go. I like the guy. But he made poor decisions this year, pure and simple. The changes need to start with his mindset. Did he say that he was making evaluations and decisions based on what certain players have done during past seasons??? Well, can he please explain what his evaluation of Derek Anderson was based on??? Because there is NOTHING there that justified the way that situation was handled this season.

    Ya know, it wasn’t bad enough that we had to watch a blow-out loss to a team that just fired its head coach in the finale…THEN, later in the evening, we get to watch two losing teams play for the NFC West title! The division was won by a team that is 7-9. And the Cardinals were a pathetic 1-5 in that same division. This time last year ( AND THE YEAR BEFORE! ), we were preparing to host playoff games in our house…and now look where we are – right back in the toilet. I’m just guessing that none of the 12 teams going to the playoffs this season played four different QB’s this year…but we did, and that pretty much tells you all you need to know.

    I sincerely thank Larry Fitzgerald for playing to the end despite having nothing to play for. You think Randy Moss or Terrel Owens would do that? Absolutely not. Well, they might if contract incentives were involved, but…Fitz did it with class and his usual maximum effort despite the ineptitude around him. I sincerely hope he feels that better days WITH THE CARDINALS are ahead and that he will continue to wear Cardinal red for years to come. To see him go anywhere else would break my heart.

    Oh, and I also thank you, Larry, for helping my fantasy team bring home the title in the last week of the season!

  66. By Bill on Jan 3, 2011 | Reply

    Basic facts, Cards aren’t going anywhere without a decent OL and a running game. Warner and his play at QB hid a lot of defects the Cards have and mainly it was those two above. He can throw the ball 50 times a game and win a majority of those games. He can get rid of the ball quicker then most QB’s giving the OL shorter times to block.

    Cards need a running game and better OL play to help their QB, whoever that is, come of age next year.

  67. By Logan Cooper on Jan 3, 2011 | Reply

    I think it is funny how Whiz talks accountability towards players he is emotionally attached to or how they performed a last year or the year before. At the same time he talks about how last years structure worked.

    Does he need to be reminded it worked because Warner was here.

    We threw a lot when Todd Haley was O.C but last year when Haley was in K.C he didn’t have Warner and he was balanced because he knew that without a QB like Warner it does not work.

    When Kobe Bryant retires do you think the coach will revolve the offense around Shannon Brown? No. He would go to bynum and gasol. In our case, go to beanie and hightower.

  68. By Stevie on Jan 3, 2011 | Reply

    Darren, listening to the player’s comments, I was really impressed with Jason Wright’s big picture. He really is the voice of reason. Our big positive is that so many rookies got to get a better feel for game speed, etc and if they go to good programs during the off season (like Fitz’s) they will get a real lead on next season. Especially, Skelton. I remember someone suggested he work with Fitz in the off season to develop rapport for each other. I guess I have always been an optimist deep inside, and forgot that a bit this season.

    I was disappointed to learn that there were some players who did not follow the attitude of the leaders in the lockerroom. (From Adrian Wilson comments.) I wonder why the team captains, if they knew about this, were not able to get their attention. Is the suggestion that these guys did not make the effort at times (missed tackles, assignments) and perhaps caused the losses. Coach always said he saw no lack of effort during some of the blow outs. Perhaps that was his normal practice of not naming players. After all, we could have won the Division with 3 more wins. No answer for the blowouts.

    I am also not sure what Coach Whiz means when he said if the guys don’t do their jobs they won’t play. This is the time of year that we don’t worry as much about playing as about making the team. He must be talking about those guys under contract for next year? I heard Alan Faneca in Coach’s voice when he said “or can’t” do the job any more and that he learned, as coach, he can’t be sentimantal.

  69. By Pat on Jan 3, 2011 | Reply

    Darren, sure I would because I would know that you care and are probably speaking out of frustration but not lacking the desire to make things better.
    I have my own company and speak from a long , very successful career. I encourage my staffs and clients to tell me what I can do to be better, discouraging them from telling me all the good things we do. By the way, i am asking because I don’t know, are you a journalist or blogger, or are they now considered to be the same thing? Do you work for the team , the NFL or is this your website?

  70. By Darren Urban on Jan 3, 2011 | Reply

    Pat —

    RE: My status

    I have worked for the team since 2007 after covering the team for a newspaper since 1999.

  71. By MichaelScott on Jan 3, 2011 | Reply

    Darren, i am curious as to what you think the cardinals or you yourself would like to see come of this qb situation?
    in my head i see 2 good solution, we pick up a rookie qb.a big-name guy that will keep the so-called “fans” still interested in the team, like andrew luck or cam newton, and also pick up a FA to help tutor him along the way. i like mcnabb but i think palmer may be available too.
    but also, how about sticking with skelton, picking up a big name FA to help develop Skelton into the franchise guy, and picking up an OL that will help protect our qb’s and make our run game that much better. i still believe in wells and think the combination of hightower and wells could really excell our offense if we utilize them. what you think?

  72. By Darren Urban on Jan 3, 2011 | Reply

    MichaelScott —

    RE: QB

    There is too much time right now. I think they need to look everywhere. Is there a QB available when they pick they really like? Then take him. But don’t take, for example, Newton at 5 if you have big questions about his ability to translate to the pro game. Yes, you need a veteran, I believe. Who that is, I have no idea right now.

  73. By Mike Ellingboe on Jan 3, 2011 | Reply


    Appreciate the update, would like to see us pick him.

  74. By Sackman on Jan 3, 2011 | Reply

    Lets talk about ownership being part of the problem that we are in. We are one of the lowest salary teams in the NFL. So what do you expect our record to be? I’m not asking for the Bidwill’s to fork out the most money, but I think to start to fix the problems we have they need to spend money in the middle range of what NFL teams pay, thats all. If they did that we would have better quality players and the sellouts will continue. If not, the seats are going to be empty again and they are going to loose money. I have been a fan for too long. 30 years! Time for a change. Spend the mula!!! We fans have for years mostly loosing seasons.

  75. By JohnyCash on Jan 3, 2011 | Reply

    When whiz says “on offence were going to continue to do what weve been doing because we know its succesful” makes me sick. You dont have kurt warner anymore. They should have ended the season with more run att than they did. It makes me sick. They lost the superbowl for the same reason, no trust in run game. Especially in short yardage situations.

    Get some run blockers, become a run team and pass when needed with Skelton, Fitz AND BREASTON (He’s nothing but a playmaker).

  76. By Mike Ellingboe on Jan 3, 2011 | Reply

    @ everyone who is guessing that the Whiz isn’t tough enough, a quote from Adrian Wilson in Darren’s “Whiz talks change” article:

    “I know we will be better next year because everyone knows coach Whiz is not going to have another season like this,” Wilson said. “For guys who just came to this team, they will understand that. Quickly.”

    Last I checked it’s pretty unanimous that AW doesn’t mince his words or sugar coat anything. If the Whiz is tough enough in his eyes I’d say that ignorant debate should be put to rest.

  77. By TucsonTim on Jan 3, 2011 | Reply

    Darren –

    Concerning your reply to Tex, I’ll say the same thing to you that I said LAST season. Our offense in 2009 got worse in every category except rushing. We didn’t lose back to back games because we play in the NFC west and in 2009 we got to play Detroit and we still had Warner. Now I’ve gotten killed on the blogs for saying Warner isn’t a HOF QB (cut or benched by 3 NFL coaches) but I will admit he could work behind a terrible O-line with Brown NOT on his blind side and he definitely knew how to get the ball to Fitz. So give the 2009 season a rest. The 2009 playoffs weren’t a pretty site….but then they were the playoffs, and they had very little to do with Whiz.

  78. By DDub480 on Jan 3, 2011 | Reply

    For 2011
    Hire Oc , Dc
    Get a Vet QB
    Draft OL and defense players
    See what skeltons got.

    What do you think Darren?

  79. By Darren Urban on Jan 3, 2011 | Reply

    DDUb —

    RE: Changes

    I think you have a plan.

  80. By TucsonTim on Jan 3, 2011 | Reply

    Kevin and all of the Leinart lovers –

    After watching New England and Indy this year there is one thing about the NFL that is absolutely crystal clear. If you have a good coach and an elite QB and they work together, you can win with just about anybody playing the other positions.

    For whatever reason Whiz decided he couldn’t work with Leinart. He could have tried to force the issue but it wouldn’t have worked. Look at Washington.

    So, I understand the decision, I just don’t understand the timing and the lack of preparation for the inevitable.

  81. By Ultimate Cards on Jan 3, 2011 | Reply

    Sometimes you get emotionally attached to coaches and what they have done for you in the past.

    You may have a tendency to overlook certain things … When you win games, sometimes you let things slip a little bit, OK, he didn’t make the correct play cal and the team was blown out AGAINl, he’ll do better the next time. That builds up over time and you start evaluating coaches based on what you remember them doing a year or two or three or four ago and maybe not candidly assessing where they are right now. That’s an easy trap to fall into … and you have to work past that.

  82. By Chuck 1 on Jan 3, 2011 | Reply

    Dear Whiz,

    Don’t change a thing this off season.
    I’m sure that the results were just an anomaly.

  83. By CrazyLady25 on Jan 3, 2011 | Reply

    Why do we have people calling for a QB when we have one, Skelton? He didn’t quit, neither did Fitz. Skelton might be a little on the raw side, but playing in games will take care of that; plus, Skelton should follow what Kurt did, meet with Fitz once a week to go over what they wanted to do.

    I’m sorry for regressing, but the main thrust of my argument is why are we talking about getting any other position than LT, LG, and C. I saw Kurt Warner on NFL Network’s “Road to Dallas”, a candid discussion, in which he compared Tom Brady to Mike Vick. He said Tom had one of the best Offensive lines in the game — and then he said if he had that he would probably be still playing.

    A guy that’s going into the HoF as a QB saying that if he had an O-Line “like Tom Brady’s” he would still be playing. Ouch.

    That has to be our no. 1 goal: fix the O-Line! Followed by getting Steve and Larry signed to brand new deals.

  84. By AndyStandsUp on Jan 3, 2011 | Reply

    How long of a “leash” does Whiz have, deserve?
    IMO, with the league, being “what have you done for me lately”, another 5-11 season could be a back breaking camel-like piece of hay.

  85. By Chuck 1 on Jan 3, 2011 | Reply

    Memo to the Cards organization:

    Just hope that Andrew Luck doesn’t make himself eligible for the draft this year.
    With the #1 pick in 2012, you’ll be a cinch to get him.

  86. By Chuck 1 on Jan 3, 2011 | Reply

    I encourage fans to use the Fan Feedback link (below), that Darren has provided, to contact the Cards’ organization to give them your thoughts regarding this season and plans for the 2011 season (if there is one).

    Thanks, Darren.

  87. By Trisha on Jan 4, 2011 | Reply


    I agree, Fitz is should be our #1 priority. But I do not understand your statement regarding DRC. I love the guy and I do think he is a playmaker but he does not try EVERY PLAY, he guesses and gets burned more then he actually makes a play. I think it would be a good ideal to bring in a veteran CB that can teach DRC. Besides the obvious (releasing Leinart) the biggest disappointment this year for me is Whiz’s lack of running the offense and utilizing Wells. Didn’t we draft him to be the 1st HB on the depth chart? Not saying Hightower isn’t a good player but I do not think we should resign him. We should draft a HB with speed and whose shifty so we can have a one-two punch with Wells being the main back. Also what was the point of signing Porter? He did not do anything!

  88. By Trisha on Jan 4, 2011 | Reply

    Regarding Whiz.

    Where should I start? I think he is a quality coach but he makes emotional decisions. We all know he got rid of our franchise QB simply because “He didn’t like him” and now he has to deal with the “what if’s” for the rest of his Cardinals coaching career. I mean DA as QB, REALLLY!!!! ????? !!!! lol. I think Whiz needs to get his head out of his a$$ and get rid of his coaches. How many personal fouls, offside penalties, etc etc etc did we have this year? That is a simple fix, DISIPLINE!!! Whiz completely lacks this and the players walk all over him. If the Cardinals want to be a winning franchise they need strong leaders who do not coach with emotions but with their brain!! And I swear Davis must be a cat because he has 9 lives. Honestly, he should have been gone BEFORE the super bowl ran. Our defense has never been great just good enough. Our players are to talented to just be good enough.

  89. By UC on Jan 4, 2011 | Reply

    Ultimate Cards – even moreso when that coach is the one in the mirror.

    TucsonTim – Indy’s regular season seems to have disproved that, because without a good running attack Manning was horrible. And remember, Brady missed a season recently and the Patriots still had a good record. Regarding Leinart, it sounds like you believe King Whiz actually had the legitimate rationale he claims for replacing Leinart. We don’t know that to be true, and Leinart himself even said that it wasn’t. Now, we can give Leinart’s comment as much credence as we want, but with all the different “goals of the week” King Whiz issued to Leinart right before the shafting, coupled with King Whiz’s varying excuses and refusal to admit ANY wrongdoing about ANYTHING this year, why should we believe what he says about the Leinart situation? Given the type of person King Whiz has revealed himself to be during this season, I think it’s much more likely that King Whiz had a personal dislike for Leinart that King Whiz was too unprofessional to overcome, that King Whiz played mind games with Leinart to the point that Leinart was afraid to make any mistakes, and that King Whiz then used Leinart’s resulting timid play as an excuse to dump him. I’ve seen King Whiz make too many petty decisions and show too much favoritism to “certain” players this year to not believe that this scenario is much more likely than whatever version King Whiz decides to tell the public.

  90. By Mark on Jan 4, 2011 | Reply

    If i was general manager/coach of the Cardinals this would be my fix for next season.
    1) Resign Breaston, Lutui, Sendlein and Branch asap.
    2) Sign a veteran Quarterback or trade for one. First try to pry away Kolb from the eagles, or Orton of the Broncos in that order. If not sign Mcnabb or Alex Smith as a stopgap veteran and draft a QB such as Mallet or Locker if they slips to the second round.
    3) Dont be cheap. The Bidwills made a ton of money this year by cutting payroll and yet they still sold out every game. Sign another big free agent to drastically improve the teams talent such as a Logan Mankins or Safety Donte Whitner and his 140 tackles.
    4) Sign a quality defensive coordinator/mind to run the 4-3 defense, Admit that you dont have the personal to run the 3-4 as a base defense. Also with the four down linemen you can have 3 undersized quick linebackers such as Washington, Schofield and Adrian Wilson.
    5) Drop the hammer, underachievers are benched or released. Wilson is moved to linebacker to better use his skill set. Porter gone, Haggens backup, Levi Brown moved to guard, back to right tackle or released. Toler moved to Saftey or third corner. He is a good tackler, and is fast but lacks coverage skills.
    6) Draft Andrew Luck , ok that wont happen so take CB Patrick Peterson or Prince Amukamara , then draft Oline, pass rusher or a Quarterback . Drafting a stud Corner will push DRC to be better. And a seondary or DRC, Peterson/Amukamara Rhodes and Whitner/Toler would be very good.
    7) Coaches, get rid or Davis and, if Mike Miller is not a good OC get one like Josh McDaniels.
    Darren can you give the cards organization this bit of info so we dont have to go thru another season like this one…please.

  91. By david day on Jan 4, 2011 | Reply

    McNabb is a good pickup,but that would be a QB for right now..we need one for the future whether is be Skelton or a draft pick which I believe should be Blaine Gabbert from Mizzou.The defense is slow, and we need young,hungry players to play in a 3-4 defense..Other than Cromartie,wilson,campbell and dockett..defense sucks.Beanie Wells is a bust and has been since he was drafted..No speed,and the kinda ball we play..we need quickness alll around the field..We play in the NFC WEST people,anything is possible

  92. By jocards on Jan 4, 2011 | Reply

    This team is an absolute mess. Going from 10 wins to 5 really was a dash of cold water in the face. There is a lot of work to be done and it all starts with the QB search. I have to say that I was glad the season finally ended. I was sad to see it end with yet another gutless effort. The team didn’t look very interested and to me you have to look at the head coach to some degree…I know these are professionals but the coach is somewhat responsible for making sure his team is ready to play. Just a lost season

  93. By Motavaysean on Jan 4, 2011 | Reply

    Vince Young looks done as a Titan. I would much rather see him in a cardinals jersey than McNabb. How would you Rather see a cardinal

  94. By Magee on Jan 4, 2011 | Reply

    This team needs a leader on the field and it doesn’t have one. The Cardinls need a big time quarterback and get rid of the players who gave up how many touchdowns within 30 seconds of the Cardinals scoring themselves. They had to lead the league in falling asleep after scoring. This team also needs heart and people who put out on every play. Apparently, that cost money and that money is going to have to be spent in the off season, picking up some guys who can inspire the play of the people around them. This division is up for grabs every year and there is NO REASON the Cardinals can’t be in the thick of things almost every year. The Cardinals have one of the most attractive places to play in the league and some great fans!

  95. By joe67 on Jan 4, 2011 | Reply

    re: Wiz play calling

    Makes no difference what you call, if you can’t execute. All execution starts with O L. For God’s sakes, we could hardly complete a screen pass, which could have been the salvation for a O L as pourous as this one.

    This is NOT the same old Cardinal org. WE WILL BE BACK!!!!!!!!!!

  96. By jocards on Jan 4, 2011 | Reply

    I’ve been a fan since I was a little kid and the team played in STL & seasons like 2008 & 2009 are the exception for this organization, not the rule. Dropping a 5-11 season on us is far more in line with what this team has historically produced. I really hope it isn’t a case of the “same old Cardinals” and that this team will make the moves they need to make to get back to winning. However if following this team all these years has taught me anything it’s to be extremely cautious with any optimism ….

  97. By Mike Ellingboe on Jan 4, 2011 | Reply


    Calling Leinart a “franchise” QB?
    REALLY!!! ??? !!! lol.

  98. By Adam on Jan 4, 2011 | Reply


    I know that he doesn’t confront players because I know quite a bit of the players on the team. And they tell me what the REAL deal is there. Thank you!!

  99. By jwimmer2 on Jan 4, 2011 | Reply

    Living in St. Louis, and growing up in Big 12 Conference territory, and graduating from a Big 12 university (another alum of my school is currently becoming a solid leader at QB for the Buccaneers) I have had to watch Blaine Gabbert tear up my team’s defense enough times to know what his potential is. This QB is the real thing, and I don’t see Andrew Luck having much more to offer than Gabbert. The local ESPN radio station in St. Louis is TERRIFIED that the Cardinals will select Gabbert because after rooting for the Tigers on Saturdays, they’d then have to turn around and root for an OU alum at QB over their college team hero in Gabbert on Sundays. I can personally attest to the value that Gabbert could offer to the Cardinals immediately.

  100. By Adam on Jan 4, 2011 | Reply


    That’s why I know Whisenhunt is afraid to confront guys with big contracts. How do you explain 2 years ago when Dockett was holding out the whole off season because of his contract and didn’t show up for any off sesaon works and Whisenhunt picked him as the captain??? I was told nobody on the team even voted for him and Whiz still made him captain. The guys on the team see stuff like that and don’t have respect for their leader. The team was pissed at that because Dockett didn’t show any loyalty to his teammates and wasn’t even respected in the locker room at that point. That’s how I know. Do you want me to expose Coach Whisenhunt even more?? Or do you believe I know some of the guys now? The guys do have friends that they spill their guts to when they are unhappy about things on the team.

  101. By SteveDCO on Jan 4, 2011 | Reply

    I actually just read all these reponses as I needed a good laugh.

    I then went and read the New England blogs and what do you know, after any loss they wanted BB and TB fired or benched.

    On this blog people talk about Whiz having too much emotion or not enough.

    They talk about Singultary being a great coach becuase he got in peoples faces. Please read V Davis’s comments about how everyone was scared of him.

    Whiz has shown he can coach. I think his comments fit right in line with Wilson’s comments about people not wanting to play.

    Adrian Wilson is the most honest player I have seen in the NFL. When he makes a comment that Whiz won’t let players repeat this year and new comers will see that, I think we ALL need to listen.

    Wilson has a little more inside information than anyone on the blog including Darren of the things that are said behind closed doors.

    He gets to see 1st hand what Coach Whiz says and does week in and week out. Fitz has also made comments about trusting Whiz to fix this year. Fitz is very religious and smart. If he didn’t believe what he was saying he would side step the question but he answered several times.

    The team lost of HOF QB. Not many teams are great after that happens.

    Of the 12 playoff teams, 9 of them have QBs rated in the top 12 in QB rating. Rivers, Freeman, Schaub are the top 12 QBs who missed.

    The QBs who are not on the lst but there teams got in..Cutler, Hasselback, Sanchez. These teams either have amazing Dfenses or play in the NFCW.

    Be it Skelton, Luck, Gabbert, Orton, McNabb or Hasselback we will have a decent QB next year. Graves/ Whiz will ensure that.

    And for whoever said Brady Quinn as starting QB…..COM’ON MAN

  102. By Richard on Jan 4, 2011 | Reply

    Same old Cards, let good young players go and being in old players to save a buck.I think I’ll save some bucks too next year on the Cards and buy a big screen,I’ll enjoy it more.It starts at the TOP and works its way down.

  103. By jocards on Jan 4, 2011 | Reply

    It makes me wonder when I read folks commenting about how the 5-11 Cardinals have as much talent as any team in the league. Really?!? Well this is the NFL, of course there is talent on the roster. The problem is that Arizona doesn’t have players that make plays to win games and that’s really all that matters in this league. Pointing to wins over New Orleans and Dallas as proof of the abundance of talent is not really valid to me. There were a number of fortuitous bounces that greatly contributed to the win against the Saints and the Cowboys? Wow beat a 6-10 team…The fact is that this team rarely outplayed their opponent this season, it was rare indeed that one could say they were clearly the better team on the field for any given week….That speaks volumes to me. Every player and every coach needs to do a better job. This season was just a long nightmare and there is much work to be done.

  104. By Scott H on Jan 4, 2011 | Reply

    Motavaysean –

    RE: Vince Young

    Interesting thoughts about Young…I wasn’t even thinking about him until I read your post. Would I rather have him than McNabb? If you’ve paid attention to my posts, you know that answer – HELL, YEAH!!! But I wonder if Young will be available at all…I would keep a close eye on what happens with Jeff Fisher in Tennessee. Because I don’t think Young and Fisher can work together anymore after what went down this year. If Fisher is staying, Young might be available. If Fisher is out, I don’t think Young is going anywhere. My two cents.

  105. By Adam on Jan 4, 2011 | Reply

    Jocards.. This team has no playmakers on it??? Are you serious?? Let me name a few for you. Just a few only.

    Larod Stephens Howling
    Larry Fitzgerald
    Steve Breaston
    Early Doucet
    Beanie Wells
    Dominique Rodgers
    Mike Adams
    Clark Haggans
    Greg Toler
    Kerry Rhodes
    Adrdian Wilson
    Darnell Dockett
    Joey Porter
    Calais Campbell

    There are some more players that I did not mention.I gaurantee you that if any of these guys played for a coach that had a system in place they would thrive. These are playmakers. The coaching staff does not call the right plays for these guys to succeed and the guys aren’t motivated because of the confusion that they have to deal with the coaches not knowing what to do each week. They are tired of unsure coaches who all look to each other for answers.

  106. By Adam on Jan 4, 2011 | Reply

    I may talk bad about this coaching staff a lot but I do want this organization to win. I just don’t think the owners will do whatever it takes to get back to the top. That is a committment I don’t think Mr. Bidwell has. And I have also been told that Whisenhunt hires all of his buddies in these positions instead of doing major research to bring in the best… and thats not a recipe to get back to the top. That’s why Matt Raich is the Linebackers coach when the linebackers say he doesn’t know what the heck he is talking about. Again, buddy of Whiz from Pittsburgh. Who you hire is a reflection on you and what you are all about. Remember that businessmen out there!!

  107. By UC on Jan 4, 2011 | Reply

    Adam, we obviously can’t know for sure if you are who you say you are. However, allowing for the possibility that you may be legit, what have you heard from the players about how the Leinart fiasco went down, and what did the players think about it? Were they really as optimistic about DA as King Whiz has led the public to believe?

  108. By jocards on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    Adam – I am not saying the team doesn’t have any playmakers. I’m not saying the team doesn’t have talent either. Like I said, in the NFL every team has talent. They don’t make plays that will turn the game often enough….the record is 5-11 for goodness sake. Is some of that coaching and scheme? Certainly but it’s the players that go out and fail to execute time and again, it’;s the players that quite often look like they aren’t even interested…..Early Doucet? Mike Adams? Big time playmakers?!? Adams facemasks Rodgers and causes a fumble and he’s suddenly a big time playmaker….the guy isn’t even a starter….Doucet? Maybe at LSU but do you really think he qualifies as an NFL playmaker? I’ll allow that there are some good players on this team as there are with every NFL team but I can’t lay every loss on the coaching staff.

  109. By jocards on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    Let me just throw this question out there…How many of the 16 games this season would anybody say that they felt the Cardinals were clearly the better team on the field that day? One? Two? Maybe a couple more, maybe not…They were clearly better than Denver…

  110. By UC on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    jocards, you’re confusing BEING a better team with PLAYING like a better team. There’s no question that some, maybe many, of the players on this team stopped playing hard this season, but I don’t blame them at all for tuning out their incompetent coaches and deciding to protect their bodies. Why should they sacrifice themselves to their head coach’s arrogance and stupidity? These guys are playing to earn their living, most of them aren’t going to be able to do so for more than a few years, and we have no right to expect them to risk crippling themselves in the pursuit of whatever nonsensical goals their head coach’s distorted ego dreamed up.

  111. By jocards on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    Oh okay, I see…..This is in reality one of the better teams in the league, they just don’t play like it. Everybody is entitled to their own opinion from my perspective the coaching staff did a poor job and the players did a poor job. 5-11 is exactly what it is, a bad season from a bad team. My opinion only.

  112. By Mike Ellingboe on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    @UC & jocards,

    Good points on both sides of your debate but in one of the recent articles Darren posted Adrian Wilson stated that we need more talent than what is currently here. I’ll agree with UC that the overall talent level is pretty good, but for what we’re trying to run (both offensively and defensively) we are woefully inadequate at some very key positions (QB/OLB). I think that can be corrected sooner than later but keeping in mind that those two areas are the biggest hits/misses throughout the league. Really hoping Gabbert drops to #5 and Schofield is a legit pass rusher.

  113. By Stevie on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    SteveDCO–I would like to meet you–a sensible, thoughtful and reasoned comment. Thanks you for cutting through all the emotional garbage in many of the comments.

  114. By Jsc on Jan 6, 2011 | Reply

    Wiz needs to go !

  115. By ReoHays on Jan 6, 2011 | Reply

    Whiz is a good coach! I would like him to be more flexable in his game plan, to allow for his players skills to be utilized better. 1st rnd MLB, 1st rnd OL, 1st Rnd DE/OLB? Get Real. If Whiz has anything to do with it a rookie wont have a major impact on his team, unless it is on special teams. So the draft cant save us. That just leaves the young guys we have and the vets we bring in. Our front office has to do a better job of bringing in players that fit Whiz. Just canned the DC today, but who will he fill the void with?
    The OL, QB and LB all need desperate help. What happend to Russ Grim? The line sucked bad in 2010.

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