DRC/PP expectations

Posted by Darren Urban on May 18, 2011 – 3:05 pm

Patrick Peterson was blunt when asked about wanting to have an NFL “island” as a cornerback, a la Darrelle Revis. “I don’t want an island,” he said. “I want a universe.” Alrighty then. That’s a pretty big area. You have to assume, in such a universe, Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie would have to be part of the equation.

Just what will the Cardinals have with the DRC/PP combination – not yet forgetting Greg Toler, who won’t have the draft pedigree of the other two but arguably will be the best tackler? (We have yet to see what Peterson brings to the table in terms of tackling, but for now, keep the DRC comments to yourself.)

Because neither has been around, it’s difficult to get a feel for how the duo – or trio, including Toler – will fit together. Here’s what we know: DRC acknowledged last season he didn’t play as well as he could or should have, and he must improve (note I didn’t say “master”) the art of tackling. Toler can play physically, but he remains raw as a cornerback. Peterson has to learn the NFL game period.

The last time the Cards took a cornerback high in the draft, Antrel Rolle certainly entered a different situation. The starting cornerbacks at the time were David Macklin and Robert Tate, and with all due respect to those guys, DRC and Toler are a better duo. The year the Cards took Rolle, they also took Eric Green in the third round, which shows you how much they needed cornerbacks. Rolle was late arriving to camp but was still going to jump into the lineup sooner rather than later; this was Dennis Green as coach. He had no problem thrusting rookies in the lineup. Peterson has Ken Whisenhunt as coach, and if anything, Whisenhunt has shown he’ll slow it down for rookies and playing time if he has a feasible alternative and Toler qualifies.

(Toler, at the least, should be able to be a solid nickel cornerback in a league where three cornerbacks are often needed.)

One thing is guaranteed, and that’s the confidence both DRC and Peterson own. Perfect for their position, and necessary. As has been noted many times, whomever plays cornerback will need a steady pass rush to achieve high-profile status. But if DRC can take his 2009 season and ratchet it up, and Peterson becomes the player everyone keeps saying he should be, high expectations should be the bar the two are able to reach.

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  1. By Phoenixraven1 on May 18, 2011 | Reply

    Should be the best tandem eventually in the NFL, not to mention trio because I’m still very high on Toler. Throw in arguably the second or third best tandem at safety we could be scary good on Defense with Horton at the helm!

  2. By Kurt on May 18, 2011 | Reply

    Peterson should push DRC to his limit – Toler will be better, should prove a nice formula. What is Wilson returns to form this year if we have football.

  3. By D on May 18, 2011 | Reply

    Not worried about these 3, but worried about the pass rush-probably still need to add a body if free agency happens. No corner can cover for a few minutes…

  4. By Gilbert Card on May 18, 2011 | Reply

    This combo opens the door to some wicked blitz possibilities, A-Dub should be destructive in this new era. Cannot wait for a 2011 season!!!

  5. By Jesse Robles on May 18, 2011 | Reply

    Sign Bulger when we can, OLine and LB help on Free Agency too, man we are so close!!! I like our chances though. Lets Go Cards!

  6. By brad oneill on May 18, 2011 | Reply

    We will be solid against the pass which is great but can our lbs pick it up against the run?

  7. By Dan on May 18, 2011 | Reply

    I live in PA and keep hearing these obnoxious Eagle fans claiming that the Cards will send a first round choice next near and DRC for Kolb. If that happens, I will no longer support my team. I want Kolb, but not at that price!

  8. By Dan on May 18, 2011 | Reply

    There is no other type of eagle fan

  9. By Artie on May 18, 2011 | Reply


    What do you think the PP pick means for Micheal Adams? I know he is a lot smaller then the other corners, but I thought he did quite well last year. It was the best year he has had. you can tell he has a lot of heart and a lot of fire, it would be a shame if they couldn’t keep him.

  10. By Darren Urban on May 18, 2011 | Reply

    Artie —

    RE: Adams

    They are going to need more than 3 CBs. And he is very good on special teams. My guess is that he’d be the leading contender to be the fourth, ahead of McBride and Jefferson or Green.

  11. By Dre on May 18, 2011 | Reply

    Can’t help but to love the potential our secondary has…looking at them on paper. But we should wait to see what happens on the field, when they take the field.

    I did way too much could of, should of, and would of last year.

    Their is only one more major move they need to pull off and that is getting Kevin Kolb.

  12. By AndyStandsUp on May 18, 2011 | Reply

    Peterson will probably be the nickel to begin the season, IMO, but the bigger question for me is where does he fit in on special teams?
    I’m sure the Cards will have dry runs in Training camp, but you already have Hyphen, Green,Jefferson and Breaston who can return kicks and Green, Breaston and Roberts who can handle punts.
    Patrick had no college sacks and probably no experience on ST when the ball was not in his hands. His blitzing and blocking skills COULD be a liability.

  13. By Ron on May 18, 2011 | Reply

    I can’t wait until camp opens and see those two guys race each other!! DRC always boast he’s the fastest on the team and is open to a challenge. I’m ready for this season to start. Go Cards!!

  14. By AndyStandsUp on May 18, 2011 | Reply

    And why on draft day was he receiving a congratulatory phone call from Vancouver Canada? Does Whiz have an evil twin?

  15. By McNab's future on May 18, 2011 | Reply

    DRC sucks period

  16. By skeltonfan on May 18, 2011 | Reply

    Thats sounds like a very talented secondary.

  17. By Mr. Know It All on May 18, 2011 | Reply

    Cards new DC Ray Horton can’t wait to work with the talent stocked on defense!!!!!!

    Darren I heard that the NFL is obligated to play football on Sept. 11, 2011. Any word on that?

  18. By Darren Urban on May 18, 2011 | Reply

    Mr. Know It All —

    RE: 9/11

    Um, no. There are many who believe the league needs to play on the 10th anniversary, but when you say obligated, to me that means they have to — like, legally — and that’s just not the case.

  19. By TJ on May 18, 2011 | Reply

    Cover 2 sink (safties and linebackers play the middle and Peterson DRC drop back) on madden will be the Cards best play cause of the ability to send blitzers at linebacker(fear run, blitz the strong man side, fear pass play the strong man pass) the ability of our safeties to be physical in the middle and the speed of our corners.

  20. By tom on May 18, 2011 | Reply

    yea i agree… think we have the best secondary in league on paper up there with green bay but if we lose adams im gonna be mad… hes liked by his teammates and a great special teamer and he could play the nickel for a little to help groom toler into a true nickel corner…

  21. By TJ on May 18, 2011 | Reply

    Trade Beanie and First round pick for Javid Best and Carson Palmer-Kolb(multiple team trade)

  22. By tom on May 18, 2011 | Reply

    lol i love when you whoop out the old pieces darren! i actually remember that one about rolle…

  23. By Canadian Red Bird on May 18, 2011 | Reply

    Can’t believe some people who supposedly are in the know, spell rumours of Kolb for 1st rounder and DRC. You’ve got to be kidding me!!!!!!! No team could be that stupid to pull the trigger on that one.

    Again, look at what Kolb has done as welll as being prone to concussions. A second rounder at best for the corn on Kolb. Hopefully common sense prevails in the desert.

    Absolutely love the PP pick; cant wait to see what he brings to the team.

  24. By Eazy E on May 19, 2011 | Reply

    Peterson is the best tackling cb we have right now. Peterson is the total package and that is why that was a fantastic pick. Denny Green played rookies, but sometimes it worked out well, i.e. dockett, a-wil, fitz, boldin, etc. Whiz should and will play Peterson day 1, he will beat out toler. Peterson Planet maybe??

  25. By Rugbymuffin on May 19, 2011 | Reply

    Horton is going to make all three better. The days of trying to defend passes with your back to the QB, and waving your arms like a madman are over.

    Horton says, “I want small guys that can hit.”

    That may not apply to everyone in our secondary. I wonder how patient Horton will be about that rule.

  26. By Peter in Canada on May 19, 2011 | Reply

    Fellow Canuck-

    Entirely agree with you about Kolb. Eagle fans are dreaming in technicolour. Now if it was Vick …….

  27. By Carolina Tyler on May 19, 2011 | Reply

    I love DRC and Toler. They have room for improvement. PP will definitely push those 2. As for QB, I vote for John Skelton. I don’t want to trade any defenders for a QB. Kolb is ok. He played well for a couple games and everyone thinks he’s great. Give me a break. He will be a dud. I would rather have Bulger to teach John Skelton.

  28. By Scharf on May 19, 2011 | Reply

    @McNab’s future

    DRC is a top 10 talent when it comes to Cornerbacks. While he had a pretty bad year last year, he still doesn’t “suck”. His first year as a rookie was amazing, and his second year was just as amazing, I don’t know what caused him to slip this past year, but even he agrees with his poor play last year. Horton won’t allow him to repeat last year.

  29. By rasj on May 19, 2011 | Reply

    DRC should be scared to get pushed down to the nickelback.. or that might not work.. cuz he only plays one side of the field!!! i hated seeing other teams put their stud wr on the opposite side and get easy TD’s

  30. By Mario on May 19, 2011 | Reply

    Darren, there’s rumors that the Cards are getting ready to pull the trigger when the cba is completed on a bad deal: over paying for Kevin Kolb. I wonder if the the “All In” mantra will be enough to cover the smell of this deal if it involves a starter, or top draft pick/drafted player?

  31. By Emmett on May 19, 2011 | Reply

    Glen Macnow of Philly sports reported that Kevin Kolb + 2012 2nd round pick for Patrick Peterson was a quote “done deal”. I immediately laughed that off for dozens of reasons but now with Sal Pal reporting that Kolb to Arizona is “a slam dunk”, I’m getting edgy.

    Please tell me PP-DRC will not be involved in a Kolb trade Darren.

  32. By Darren Urban on May 19, 2011 | Reply

    Emmett —

    RE: Kolb

    I would be very surprised if either DRC or Peterson were traded.

  33. By Jon L. on May 19, 2011 | Reply

    In a few years, this could potentially be the best tandem in the league. This will hopefully improve their defense….Now, they just need a qb.

  34. By Haggis Bob on May 19, 2011 | Reply

    Usually when you trade a player for a player you have depth behind the player you are losing. Otherwise you dig a hole to fill a hole. Doesn’t quite add up. I cannot think of a position we have depth in and can afford to lose a starter.

  35. By Chuck 1 on May 19, 2011 | Reply

    By Rugbymuffin on May 19, 2011 | Reply
    “Horton says, “I want small guys that can hit.””

    Rugby, that reminded me of what the Penn State secondary did to the Miami Hurricane receivers in the 1986 Fiesta Bowl Championship game.

    The Miami receivers were being hit so hard that they started hearing footsteps and forgot about catching Vinnie Testeverde’s passes.

    Result: A huge upset by the Nittany Lions.

    We can only hope that PP, DRC, Toler and Adams will be able to do the same.

  36. By UC on May 20, 2011 | Reply

    The first thing Peterson needs to learn is to stop running his mouth, and quit providing motivation to receivers, when he still has yet to step foot on a field as an NFL player.

  37. By cdubbbbbb on May 20, 2011 | Reply

    If we trade DRC or PP for kolb Ill give up on this franchises decision making ability, if they don’t see how excited us fans are about DRC and PP playing for this team, they need to sell the franchise to someone that does understand its fans. Kolb for one of our running backs and a 3rd rd pick sounds fair

  38. By Scott H on May 21, 2011 | Reply

    Would LOOOOOVE to see these guys becaome a dynamic duo at the corners for years to come. But I hesitate to go off the deep end here. Peterson has yet to play a down in the NFL and DRC was a big disappointment last year. With Wilson and Rhodes back there as well and Toler in the mix, it’s exciting to think what they COULD be…but it’s mostly question marks right now.

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