An even day, but Wilson hurt

Posted by Darren Urban on August 6, 2011 – 2:48 pm

The Cardinals’ Red and White practice was exactly how coach Ken Whisenhunt predicted — ups and downs for both sides of the ball. Quarterback Kevin Kolb made some nice throws, but he was also picked off three times.

Regardless, the biggest news happened when safety Adrian Wilson hurt either his bicep or elbow early on. He left, and Whisenhunt said Wilson will have an MRI. Whenever you are talking about biceps and MRIs, there has to be a fear there is a tear. Kent Somers already reported the Cards will bring back Matt Ware — which certainly doesn’t sound like the Cards expect Wilson back right away, anyway. Cornerback Patrick Peterson just tweeted out  that people should keep Wilson “in their prayers.”

That’d be a blow to a defense that, again, made some strides Saturday. Certainly it’d be a blow because of Wilson’s leadership. Rashad Johnson was running at safety with Kerry Rhodes after Wilson went out.

— Defensive coordinator Ray Horton said nose tackle Dan Williams is “not in shape right now. He’s one of the guys we are counting on so he is doing what he needs to do to help us.”

— Local law enforcement estimated the crowd at 13,000, and by my eyes, it was the largest Red-White crowd ever, including the camp right after the Super Bowl in 2009.

— CB Michael Adams sat out with a sore knee.

— Asked about the biggest challenge of camp, Kolb said “That we’re on the 12th installation and it’s my third day (of practice).”

— Beanie scores a touchdown in the goal line drill:

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58 Responses to “An even day, but Wilson hurt”

  1. By chris on Aug 6, 2011 | Reply

    I hope wilson will be good to play!

  2. By maham on Aug 6, 2011 | Reply

    i wonder if this wilson injury is a product of working out too much and putting uneccesary strain on his arms. theres no need to be as ripped as he is right now.

  3. By ryan williams on Aug 6, 2011 | Reply


  4. By ProSportsPhoenix on Aug 6, 2011 | Reply


    Why did some players wear football pants and some in shorts?

  5. By Darren Urban on Aug 6, 2011 | Reply

    ProSports —

    RE: Shorts/pants

    It’s their choice.

  6. By tom on Aug 6, 2011 | Reply

    wow what a huge joke! this is why older players need to take it easy in practice! soundslike he might be gone for the year… i dont see us winning division if our 3rd best player is out for a year… we dont even have an avg player to back him up… this ruined my day…

  7. By Zzzzzz on Aug 6, 2011 | Reply

    Have you that little faith? Yes, AW brings something no one can and we haven’t seen anyone replace it, but they still can do amazing things. Have faith in your team.

  8. By CJ on Aug 6, 2011 | Reply

    i hope he will be ok

  9. By Christo on Aug 6, 2011 | Reply

    Hope you can bounce back A-Dub we need ya.

    Darren will we pick up our aggressiveness after a quick start and little lull? It appears we still need help on the O Line, now help for the Secondary, and we still don’t seem to have a bonafide #2 WR. Do we pick up just to cover ourselves? Other teams are going to have injuries too.

  10. By Darren Urban on Aug 6, 2011 | Reply

    Christo —

    RE: Aggressiveness

    They aren’t going to just keep grabbing guys. That’s over. Here and there, maybe.

  11. By We Missed Q on Aug 6, 2011 | Reply

    It was an up and down day for Kolb, some nice throws with great zip on them, then the pics. Defense looked good. PP is the real deal, only a matter of time(or whiz’s stubbornness) before he is 1st string.

    I for one think Bartel is WAY ahead of Hall(who will be cut), and even looks to be pushing Skelton.

  12. By cards>niners on Aug 6, 2011 | Reply

    how bad does it look darren?

  13. By Darren Urban on Aug 6, 2011 | Reply

    cards> —

    RE: Dub injury

    We won’t know probably until Monday.

  14. By darrel on Aug 6, 2011 | Reply

    Would s taylor mays be an option heard sf wants to trade him

  15. By beauchamp on Aug 7, 2011 | Reply

    I hope so! He’s a perfect box safety to mold into adubs replacement for the future.

  16. By Tx Cards fan on Aug 6, 2011 | Reply

    How much are we going to over react about AW’s injury so I can plan the rest of my weekend? This is why depth has been such a big deal this year. With no offseason work outs, OTA’s, and min-camp you have players showing up to camp not in shape physically and not up to speed mentally. All these things are going to add to the already violent sport of Football and the large amount of injuries that are to be expected during a normal camp. I’m not saying it won’t hurt to not have AW for even a few weeks but I am saying its August and we won’t know the full story until Monday. That is why you have backups, and before everyone rips up there 2011-2012 tickets ask the Packers if having key players on the IR killed their season.

  17. By Devon L on Aug 6, 2011 | Reply

    Please be nothing major. Would be a huge loss for us. I like that they are going hard in practice though, everyone has the right mindset and wants to improve. Loving it.

  18. By in fitz we trust on Aug 6, 2011 | Reply

    wow i hope wilson is ok…. that would really sting loosing our best safety after trading away our best corner… now if his bicep is tore, would that mean he would be out for the season? what would be the best, and worst case senerios darren? not hoping for the worst but just kinda planning. an on a side note, if he got injured during a practice drill, what would that say about his durability in a real physical game? i know hes getting up there in age…. hope its just a strain.

  19. By Stephen on Aug 6, 2011 | Reply

    Best wishes AW!

  20. By R Robles on Aug 6, 2011 | Reply

    Lets go Adrian we need you buddy get better

  21. By Dwayne on Aug 6, 2011 | Reply

    Anyone starting to think he works out too much? His muscles are too big and his tendons and ligaments can’t keep up.

  22. By CJ on Aug 6, 2011 | Reply

    darren if god forbid wilson is gone for an extended amount of time who do you thnk would start? Rashad Johnson or Matt Ware? i personally like rashad johnson more but thats just me

  23. By Thomas77 on Aug 6, 2011 | Reply

    I just now realized that Ryan Williams is #34…

    And he has some dreads…

    Sorta’ ironic….

  24. By azcards24 on Aug 6, 2011 | Reply

    why do i have a gut bad feeling

  25. By cactus jeff on Aug 6, 2011 | Reply

    Get the safety Atari Bigsby from Green Bay. Thanks Darren, can’t wait to see Ryan Williams in action.

  26. By georgiebird on Aug 6, 2011 | Reply

    Injuries are part of the game. I am not a fan of A. Wilson but also hate to see him go out with an injury (if the MRI is bad).
    Here’s the problem with the Cardinals. Since Whiz has been here, the draft has given us several busts and many fill-in guys but no stars in the making.
    Rashad Johnson, a 3rd round choice, should already be ready to overtake Wilson and become the starter.
    Let’s not forget that Wilson is a great team player but last year many fans were calling for him to be converted to LB.
    It’s time for many of the recent Cardinal draft choices to step up and become leaders on this team.

  27. By Scott H on Aug 6, 2011 | Reply

    Oh, man, we CANNOT be without Wilson…we need his leadership more than anything else.

  28. By CJ on Aug 6, 2011 | Reply

    darren any updates on duece lutuis weight?

  29. By Darren Urban on Aug 6, 2011 | Reply

    CJ —

    RE: Lutui

    No, and I don’t expect that there will be.

  30. By mad4az on Aug 6, 2011 | Reply

    Darren, What do you think it would take to get Taylor Mays? He could learn under Adub, and possibly replace Adub after Adubs pro bowl and Cards super bowl run.

  31. By Darren Urban on Aug 6, 2011 | Reply

    mad4az —

    RE: Mays

    I don’t think the Cards or many other teams are very high on Mays.

  32. By Kaleb on Aug 6, 2011 | Reply

    Nothing but bad news here. Kind of frustrating.

  33. By John the draft guy on Aug 6, 2011 | Reply

    Take a minute and think logically. The niners drafted Taylor Mays in the second round last year and are already giving up on him. They are seeing if they can get anything in a trade. Because you know his name, you want to trade for him. Why do you think he can do better than Rashad Johnson or Matt Ware? This guy can’t play and will soon be out of the league.

    ADub would be missed if this is serious. He does so many things well and will be hard to replace. Lets wait till the MRI and take PP’s advice.

  34. By cardsalltheway on Aug 6, 2011 | Reply

    What were the circumstances of the injury? Was he hit in the shoulder when reaching for the ball or was he tangled up with another player near the line of scrimmage etc…? When an athlete tears his ACL, there are signs such as the knee locking, swelling, and/or popping. I’ve had 3 knee surgeries.
    In the case of a ruptured biceps tendon…”It happens most often in middle-aged people and is usually due to years of wear and tear on the shoulder. When a torn or ruptured biceps tendon occurs in a younger person, it is usually due to a sudden load on the arm such as may occur when weightlifting.”

    After last year, did A-Dub change his work-out routine? I thought John Lott would’ve been able to convince A-Dub to stop or reduce his maxing and focus on toning. Maybe this is why A-Dub doesn’t want to talk about his injury. Well, now he has a new injury to talk about. Frankly, A-Dub looks like he could pull a muscle checking his blind spot while driving a vehicle. Tone A-Dub tone, forget maxing out, you’re simply wound too tight. I said this when I saw you maxing out during the off-season. Too much of anything is not a good thing which includes weightlifting and maxing out. Get well soon and I hope something changes to avoid anything like this from happening again. On the other hand, freak accidents can happen to anyone but more often to older people with wear and tear.

  35. By EC in Seattle on Aug 6, 2011 | Reply

    I like to look at the positive of this whole thing. A Dub is one of my favorite players, but it does give our young players a chance to shine. We can’t rely on Wilson forever, we need our youngsters to step-up! This is me hoping for Wilson is O.K. from a fan standpoint, but I still think we will be fine. Don’t forget we do have another stud back there in Rhodes. Let’s go Rashad! Cards fan for life!

  36. By mike on Aug 6, 2011 | Reply

    Big D aka Darren,
    Can you please ask the defense if they are going to be up for the task to STOP Carolina from running all over us? It seems as though Williams gets 200+ yards every time he plays in UOP. Hope A-Dub is back in time as we will need him for this game especially if cam starts. We don’t have a good track record against the panthers @ home & not many teams can say that. Thanks!

  37. By Dan on Aug 7, 2011 | Reply

    Sucks about A-Dub but one man does not make a team not to mention he kinda sucks in pass coverage to be honest with you.

  38. By toddcard on Aug 7, 2011 | Reply

    i wanna F#@$ING shoot myself

  39. By Andy M on Aug 7, 2011 | Reply

    I guess we will know more Monday, but reports that the injury was from a “hit” would seemingly increase the odds of a deep bruise rather than a muscle tear of the biceps. If it is an elbow injury rather than biceps, perhaps a bone chip or fracture–neither of which would likely be season-ending. Wilson is a warrior and if there is any way he can play, he will. There is some cause for hope. We shall see.

  40. By ProSportsPhoenix on Aug 7, 2011 | Reply

    Once torn, the biceps tendon at the elbow will not grow back to the bone and heal. Based on Adrian’s Tweet he already knows.

    adrian_wilson24 Adrian Wilson “Cardinal Fans just be patient and believe in the impossible”.

    Cards fans need to pray that it is not torn.

  41. By Mark on Aug 7, 2011 | Reply

    Darren, any chance the Cardinals go after Lee Evans or Taylor Mays?? I do hope Adrian Wilson will be alright. Even if he misses the preseason!

  42. By mike on Aug 7, 2011 | Reply

    WOW. It’s not that serious or bad. You might want to seek professional help.

  43. By mike on Aug 7, 2011 | Reply

    When will we know what games the team is going to wear the black jerseys?

  44. By Darren Urban on Aug 7, 2011 | Reply

    Mike —

    RE: Black jerseys

    Do not know.

  45. By Maskin on Aug 7, 2011 | Reply

    I am happy to see Matt Ware come back to the team. He has always been solid for us and if you have ever met him in person that dude’s biceps are huge! Darren do you think that Ware will be a good fit in this new defense?

  46. By Darren Urban on Aug 7, 2011 | Reply

    Maskin —

    RE: Ware

    We will see. I don’t know.

  47. By cards62 on Aug 7, 2011 | Reply

    I would like to start by giving a shout out to the Red Sea for turning out so well for the practice.
    I do pray for AW health and hope he will be fine, but we all know this is a part of football and sometimes its better to be lucky than good.

    For those of you at the practice I would like to hear about which of our players impressed you and which ones you think were not showing up.

    Go Cards

  48. By Patrick on Aug 7, 2011 | Reply

    I agree with most guys on these boards. I think a wise move for the Cardinals is actively persue Taylor Mays. He is the closest thing to an Adrain Wilson. A couple of years playing behind him and I’m sure he can be just as good.

  49. By clssylssy on Aug 7, 2011 | Reply

    Geez…that really sucks but what with the players being locked out and having no real supervised team workouts until last week, why is it surprising that players would be injured before the preseason even starts! Look around the league, it’s not just here, Plaxico Burress, Asomugha (Eagles) Amukamara (Giants), and more are starting the preseason off injured. I really hope A-Dub is OK but it sounds like the best case scenario would still have him missing a few games. What was the backup plan to be…or hadn’t anybody considered needing a backup and a backup for that one too. Any serious athlete knows the value of training in the off season which is what cross training is all about. Wilson would have been criticized for not having enough mass had he just concentrated on strength. Any, whoever expects the rookies to “step up” and “take over the leadership” when they can barely find there way onto the field without a map and a guide …??? CHILD PLEASE!

  50. By clssylssy on Aug 7, 2011 | Reply

    Wow…Ryan Torain (Redskins) also injured and needs to have three screws put in his hand giving our very own Tim Hightower a chance to strut his stuff and impress his new employers and Skins fans with what a great steal they made…could someone please explain how having more time to lay on the couch with fewer organized team activities and practices is going to benefit the game?

  51. By John on Aug 7, 2011 | Reply

    I liked to ask to 2 things.1. What about Aaron francisco? Could we pick him up?
    2. Amukamara is out for 2 months, but will we see him in October?

  52. By Darren Urban on Aug 7, 2011 | Reply

    John —

    RE: Questions

    Don’t see Francisco returning. As for Prince, I have no idea.

  53. By BSER on Aug 8, 2011 | Reply

    Darren, how out of shape is Dan Williams? Does Ray Horton think he will play himself into shape before the regular season starts or is this in the category of Lutui? Thanks.

  54. By Darren Urban on Aug 8, 2011 | Reply

    BSER —

    RE: Dan Williams

    He doesn’t have much weight to lose at all. Definitely not Lutui.

  55. By Scott H on Aug 8, 2011 | Reply

    Um…can someone make sure toddcard doesn’t have any bullets on him???

  56. By mike on Aug 8, 2011 | Reply

    Scott H,
    Seriously. Toddcard. You will be alright & the BirdGang will help you out if you need it.

  57. By Eazy E on Aug 11, 2011 | Reply

    A-Wil would be a HUGE LOSS.

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