Conditioning Deuce, and after practice

Posted by Darren Urban on August 15, 2011 – 6:06 pm

Guard Deuce Lutui didn’t practice this afternoon. He spent the time with strength and conditioning coach John Lott, conditioning. That’s what coach Ken Whisenhunt said afterward. He didn’t once mention Lutui’s weight, but said it was an effort to get Deuce into proper condition to play football. Considering Lutui’s weight situation, however, it doesn’t seem to bode well for that battle. There is little question Lutui is a very good football player. But Whisenhunt just said when Lutui showed up the Cards wouldn’t have a lot of patience when it came to Deuce getting into shape. This may be a tangible example of that.

— The other thing noticeable at practice was a couple of nice throws by third-string quarterback Rich Bartel, passes out to the sideline that just cleared the linebacker but got to the receiver in front of the defensive back. Those are small windows. The race to make the team behind Kevin Kolb will be interesting this preseason.

— Linebacker Joey Porter looked pretty good pressuring the passer a few times, and showed up against Oakland too. He has to up his game after last season, and there have been signs of that.

— Both receiver Max Komar (groin) and tight end Todd Heap (thumb) were back doing some work.

— Don’t forget for anyone coming up Tuesday, there is a walk-through in the morning and then the full practice isn’t until 7 p.m. at Coconino High School — not NAU.

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32 Responses to “Conditioning Deuce, and after practice”

  1. By markhix on Aug 15, 2011 | Reply

    I feel like deuce is an okay lineman and that he is a pollution to a weak part of the cardinals offense. We need to make an effort to either draft these lineman or go out and sign some. I can not stand seeing beanie get all the blame for sucking at running, the cards line is half of his problem. I hope they prove me wrong this year. BIRDGANG UP!

  2. By James on Aug 15, 2011 | Reply


    I’m very excited for the upcoming season, I believe Kolb is our franchise QB. Any word on WIlson sorry to bother you thanks!

  3. By Darren Urban on Aug 15, 2011 | Reply

    James —

    RE: Wilson update

  4. By AndyStandsUp on Aug 15, 2011 | Reply

    When I was up last week I was far more impressed with Bartel than I thought I would be.
    In my eyes, he has the strongest arm on the team and his mobility is better than Skelton. I’ve heard the coaches are high on him.
    Coworker and Poopkicker fan, tells me he was terrible as training camp backup to Tony Romo a few seasons ago.
    Your impressions?

  5. By Darren Urban on Aug 15, 2011 | Reply

    AndyStands —

    RE: Bartel

    I do think he has been solid. I am a little surprised he hasn’t stuck somewhere, at least as a third guy.

  6. By Ty on Aug 15, 2011 | Reply

    Sign the T from the saints and Starks. Then cut browns over paid butt and the cards would still have money left over!!! 9 million this year and 16 million next year for brown is crazy!

  7. By gang6230 on Aug 15, 2011 | Reply

    hey Darren
    i was looking at the numbers of salary ken somers printed why is anderson owed
    1 point something million?? and why does it count against the cap

  8. By Darren Urban on Aug 15, 2011 | Reply

    gang6230 —

    RE: Cap hit

    When you cut a player who had a signing bonus, the remaining part of the bonus escalates against the cap (even though the money has long been paid). For instance, guy signs a 5-yr contract with a $10M signing bonus and salaries of $2M a year. Let’s say he is cut after three years. The team doesn’t pay the final $4M in salary, but pro-rated, it has to eat $4M against the cap that coming season.

  9. By cards>niners on Aug 15, 2011 | Reply

    I hope one of the next few articles is about larry getting a contract extension…. ughhhhh

  10. By azirish on Aug 15, 2011 | Reply

    If Rex holds on and starts at guard, throw Deuce in the backfield for goalline situations!! That big boy loves to hit people. Remember the fridge? Deuce is the whole Kitchen!!!

  11. By Kofari on Aug 15, 2011 | Reply



    When is Arizona is gone get a good linemen on the blindside

  12. By Andre on Aug 15, 2011 | Reply

    Darren, with the departure of Jon Stinchcomb from the Saints do you see the Cardinals going after him? If they do get him, what do you think will happen with the depth chart? Do you see Keith or Bridges backing up LT?

  13. By Darren Urban on Aug 15, 2011 | Reply

    Andre —

    RE: Stinchcomb

    I don’t know if they chase him. I could see Bridges backing up LT.

  14. By Mr. Know It All on Aug 15, 2011 | Reply

    Deuce and OL will be ready. Pass Rush will be manufactured by DC Horton, WR’s will be fine.
    Green Bay better watch out.
    Here come the Cards!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  15. By kaleb on Aug 16, 2011 | Reply

    So darren would you say that the practice was or was not a “clusterfudge”?


  16. By cardsalltheway on Aug 16, 2011 | Reply

    Perhaps Lutui didn’t do anything on Friday and Saturday but eat? He should’ve been in the swimming pool running back and forth(with pool shoes of course). The equivalent to about 5 to 8 miles each day while on a strict diet, plus weights and other aeorobics. Did he stay home and just eat and drink while watching football?

  17. By Chuck 1 on Aug 16, 2011 | Reply

    If we were to have an over/under on how many games it will be before Kolb misses a game or two because of injuries sustained when his O-Line doesn’t protect him, how many games would that be?

    I’m guessing six.

  18. By cactus jeff on Aug 16, 2011 | Reply

    The morning guys on 620 am say one of the biggest disappointments in camp is….Dan Williams. Do you agree or do you still think there is hope he plays like a number 1 draft pick?

  19. By Darren Urban on Aug 16, 2011 | Reply

    Cactus Jeff —

    RE: Dan Williams

    I think there is hope. Just because someone is a disappointment right now doesn’t make them a bust. There is little question he needs to get to where coaches want him, however.

  20. By Jeff on Aug 16, 2011 | Reply


    Any updates on Fitz’s contract?

  21. By Darren Urban on Aug 16, 2011 | Reply

    Jeff —

    RE: Fitz deal

  22. By cardsalltheway on Aug 16, 2011 | Reply

    Ken W. said(about last year’s defense)…”If we could stop somebody that would be a start.” Wow, didn’t we win 5 games last year? I thought so! Obviously we stopped somebody, aye?. Boy oh boy, you can sure count on Ken W. for that confidence boost 24/7/365.

  23. By Peter in Canada on Aug 16, 2011 | Reply

    Poor Deuce needs a psychiatrist as much as he needs John Lott. His life expectancy will be very short, let alone his football career, if he continues down his present path. Compare him with Faneca. When Faneca announced his retirement he had already lost, if I remember correctly, 30 lbs. He had the good sense to realize that 320 lbs maybe the ideal weight for a guard in the NFL but not for a man in retirement. Newspapers stories of obituaries of former linemen dying prematurely from heart diseases are common place. Faneca obviously didn’t want to join those ranks.

    I sure hope somebody in the organization can get inside Deuce’s head.

  24. By meg on Aug 16, 2011 | Reply

    can’t wait to see them start the season

  25. By pipapiko on Aug 16, 2011 | Reply

    Good for Deuce! Obviously the coaches know what kind of caliber player he is. He is the best o-linemen on the cards and in the NFC west division hands down! He made a mistake coming in heavy and we all make mistakes. People just need to stop hating on him and go do something productive. He came in heavy last year, and then there were talks about him losing his job? But then he passed all his physicals and conditioning tests! My prediction is that, come season opener Deuce will be the starting right guard! They should even throw him at left guard to help Levi and protect Kolb’s blindside!

  26. By joelz on Aug 16, 2011 | Reply

    Glad to know heap at “practice”, like Wise said in the conference he needs time to understand the plays and that is done in “practice”.
    Without a “great O-Line” cards franchise QB is not going to do so well. Infact Kolb has had concussion issues and last year the line allowed all 3 QBs to get beaten up, i say this mostly due to Deuce. I would not trust him protecting a Franchise 60 million dollar QB, sorry but thats reality and not fan faith. Cut him loose and go out and get a performer before its to late, and thats a true ‘Team” fan speaking.

  27. By Stop making excuses on Aug 16, 2011 | Reply

    Levi Brown and Duece Lutui are the problem GET RID OF THEM. I thought Levi brown was going to have whiplash last year since every play he was watching the defensive player run by him so much

  28. By Stop making excuses on Aug 16, 2011 | Reply

    i love your optimism unfortunately unless we pick up a couple linemen it will begame 4

  29. By CZarr on Aug 16, 2011 | Reply


    We must have been watching a different game. Unless you mean by Porter showing up, you meant that he came to the game, as opposed to having a performance level above atrocious.

    He made everyone blocking him look like a stud. Granted its a preseason game, but I am confounded already by the choices this team made in the offseason. Yes, they spent a bit of money, but somehow we’re still in the top 15 for salary cap room.

    We have one of the worst left tackles in the NFL, and we’re STILL starting him. We’ve had a former lineman that is currently in the hall of fame and our line is terrible. Even after our acquisitions its still ranked as one of the worst in the NFL. College is coming off two garbage years at Green Bay.

    We pay 21 million guaranteed for a quarterback that can’t guarantee anything given his record. This, one year after, in their infinite wisdom staff decide to shore up Derek “I can’t keep from overthrowing anyone by 20 yards” Anderson with TWO ROOKIES. One of them undrafted….

    I really hope I’m eating my words come the end of the season, but how are people actually excited after watching that first preseason game outside of the fact that we might have 4 good backup quarterbacks on our roster?

  30. By pipapiko on Aug 17, 2011 | Reply


    Your a real clown! All sack’s last season came off of Levi and Faneca’s side! Watch the games and you can see! The film don’t lie dude! Shoot I wish the cards would cut Deuce though. But again they knew they could get him for cheaper and that is exactly what happened! Deuce is a real beast in the trenches and as a pass blocker! Stop making excuses is another clown! You both obviously had dreams to play in the NFL, but did not make it b/c you both suck! I do play in the league and know Deuce personally. I’ve gone to battle with this guy, and I can vouch for him being one of the best guards in the league! Stop hating and don’t watch Deuce, watch t.v.!

  31. By pipapiko on Aug 17, 2011 | Reply

    -Peter in canada

    Also thought he would make the league, but he got caught for steroids hahahahahahaha…. Canadian football is a joke, just like your comment! Polynesians are naturally big and huge it’s in there blood. So while all you Canadians juicy up to get huge. Polynesians have been big and heavy for century’s! They are also born savages, go check out the new Conan this weekend and you will know what I’m talking about! Hahahahahaha….

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