Going forward at QB, and other lunch notes

Posted by Darren Urban on August 24, 2011 – 12:28 pm

The Cardinals wanted Brodie Croyle at quarterback because he did come from Todd Haley’s system, and there are similarities with that and what the Cards run. Coach Ken Whisenhunt said the Cards waived-injured Max Hall because it was the only way they could have any chance of bringing Hall back this season. They can injury settle with Hall and then re-sign him down the road. Will it happen/be necessary? Well, if there is an injury, I could see wanting to turn back to Hall. Otherwise, I’m not sure it would happen.

As for Croyle, with two games in five days (the Cards play Saturday and again Thursday), they need someone who didn’t come in completely cold. It’s not like they are bringing him in just because of that, Whisenhunt said, but it was a major factor. “We did have good grades on him coming out,” Whiz said.

Croyle (pictured below at his first practice this morning) doesn’t know what to expect. “I will come in and hopefully play well and we will see what happens,” Croyle said, adding that he hopes to see some time against the Chargers Saturday. “I’d like to but we will see. It wouldn’t be the ideal situation, but you play when you can. I’ll take reps when I can get them.”

Starting quarterback Kevin Kolb was asked about seeing the Chargers this weekend and then the Panthers — who are led by new head coach and former San Diego defensive coordinator Ron Rivera — opening weekend, and whether he can glean anything from it. Kolb actually weaved in the arrival of Croyle, and the Haley tie. “We said to Brodie, ‘Is this pretty similar?’ And he’s like, ‘Ehhh …’ ” Kolb said. “Coaches want to change their stuff. You can’t get caught up thinking you’ll be seeing the same things.”

— Whisenhunt said it was “competition” for incumbent punter Ben Graham as to why the Cards signed veteran Dave Zastudil. Punting, Whisenhunt said, was one of many areas that needed to be improved from 2010. In 2009, Graham was fantastic, but the team played to his strengths — the offense gained so many yards they were often near or beyond the 50, able to let Graham pin teams deep. When the offense struggles and Graham is forced to kick deep, he can drive it long, but the hang time allows for bigger returns.

— Kolb avoided a high-speed accident Tuesday night — he swerved on his Segway so he didn’t hit a skunk. That would have been a disaster. Whisenhunt said he’s dodged a few skunks in camp himself.

— Someone asked Kolb if he would get butterflies before his first home game. He said he gets butterflies before practice. “I take this game serious,” he said, and it was hard not to flash back to the Cardinals quarterback of last season. “I get amped up and ready to go, practice, preseason whatever it is,” Kolb added.

— Kolb said he was going to play into the third quarter. Whisenhunt would not commit to that, but did say it was a possibility. Playing into the third would allow Kolb to come out and play after halftime, which is always good for the starter to go through. Kolb joked that that was a big reason to look forward to this game, learning stuff like that. He doesn’t even know where the stadium is yet.

— S Adrian Wilson will not be pushed to come back. If anything, the Cards will be conservative with him. But it was good to get him back on the field, Whisenhunt said. “The common phrase for defensive players is ‘Getting their eyes right,’ ” Whiz said. “Getting in there with the speed of the game and in the right position. You can stand back and watch, but it is different when things are full-speed and you’re the one on the hook.”

— Tight end Stephen Spach (calf) and quarterback John Skelton (ankle) are making “good progress.” What that means practice-wise or game-wise is TBD.

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23 Responses to “Going forward at QB, and other lunch notes”

  1. By j on Aug 24, 2011 | Reply


    do the same rules apply as last year when it comes to the cards wearing their black jerseys? Do they plan on wearing them this weekend?

  2. By Darren Urban on Aug 24, 2011 | Reply

    J —

    RE: Alternate third jerseys

    Same rules apply. They are wearing red Saturday. No word yet on what dates they will wear black.

  3. By Jesse Robles on Aug 24, 2011 | Reply

    That is funny about not knowing where the stadium is at. I cant wait to see it either on Saturday! Get goose bumps thinking about it!! Lets go Cards!! Lets go Red Sea!!

  4. By Daniel on Aug 24, 2011 | Reply

    I sounds like the Packers may be cutting Ryan Grant. What do you think are the chances the Cardinals would go after him?

  5. By Darren Urban on Aug 24, 2011 | Reply

    Daniel —

    RE: Grant

    From what I read, Grant restructured his deal to stay in GB.

  6. By Paul H on Aug 24, 2011 | Reply

    Would that have been a disaster for the skunk or KK when he had to swerve? The first twisted knee or broken arm we get on a Segway will be the last we see of these things. I’d just rather these guys hitch a ride in a cart if they don’t want to walk. Or rent their own golf cart.

  7. By laird on Aug 24, 2011 | Reply

    Let’s just kick some Chargers’ coon-dingey!

  8. By James on Aug 24, 2011 | Reply

    Does Kolb’s segway have gps so he can find the stadium? Isnt it steange that pro athletes have to ride segways from the dressing room to the practice field instead of walking? Somewhere Vince Lombardi is rolling in his grave lol.

  9. By CZarr on Aug 24, 2011 | Reply


    It would have been a disaster for the whole camp. Skunk road kill has a 2 mile radius of “WTF is that smell?!” attached to it.

  10. By Javi on Aug 24, 2011 | Reply

    any word on what rb and qb the cards might get to replace ryan williams and johnskelton?

  11. By Darren Urban on Aug 24, 2011 | Reply

    Javi —

    RE: RB/QB

    I assume you are reading the above post. All about QB Brodie Croyle.

    As for RB, we will see.

  12. By Zapp on Aug 24, 2011 | Reply


    Seen kind of a lot of comments on Gerald Hayes and why we released him. I talk to him quite frequently and he said that he is going to retire. His back still hurts him and he doesn’t want to ruin his life down the road. He has a couple of businesses and has no desire to return or the need to. I will miss the dude because every time I talk to him he has a huge smile on.

  13. By Darren Urban on Aug 24, 2011 | Reply

    Zapp —

    RE: G Hayes

    Gerald is a very good guy. Always was good to me.

  14. By Steve on Aug 24, 2011 | Reply

    Max would be great in the CFL.

  15. By kaleb on Aug 24, 2011 | Reply

    I just finished watching a bunch of film from kolb’s play with the eagles and it seems like he targets the TE’s ALOT. I think bringing in tod heap will make kolb a better player.

  16. By MikeFlorio on Aug 24, 2011 | Reply

    Hey darren can I get an autographed pic of you with wolfe and calvsi….?

  17. By Darren Urban on Aug 24, 2011 | Reply

    MikeFlorio —

    RE: Autograph

    I think your wish list must have better things on it than that.

  18. By James on Aug 24, 2011 | Reply

    I’m a little disappointed that you guys didn’t do a video segment on the TE’s in camp since they are finally a highlight of the team. Any chance we catch a glimpse of them working and you guys talking to them at tomorrows practice?

    Thanks for all you do

  19. By Christain on Aug 25, 2011 | Reply

    How is Komar looking to make the team again?

  20. By Darren Urban on Aug 25, 2011 | Reply

    Christian —

    RE: Komar

    I think he will be on the bubble battling for one of the last couple of WR spots.

  21. By bostonjohn on Aug 25, 2011 | Reply

    Darren some misc questions :

    1) Any word on adding Kurt Warner to the Ring of Honor? That would sure add some spice to the Pittsburg game…..
    2) Will the Cards wear the Black Jersey’s this yr, and if so, do they have to announce which games they will do so. Lastly, can they wear those as a road uniform?
    3)Any additional RB or WR sightings, Portis?
    4) Do you think there is any chance at all that they would bring in Owens or Moss?

    Thanks for all the great coverage…..

  22. By Darren Urban on Aug 25, 2011 | Reply

    Bostonjohn —

    RE: Questions

    1. No word
    2. Yes, but no announcements yet. Most teams wear colors at home, so I doubt the Cards would get the chance to wear black. Plus, the organization likes to have the home fans get to see the unis.
    3. No. They will look at the RBs cut.
    4. No.

  23. By cards62 on Aug 25, 2011 | Reply

    To Zapp

    Please let Gerald Hayes know he was appreciated by us Cardinal fans. We know he gave his all and his all was great. We are all sorry he was injured, but that all of us wish him well with his businesses and the rest of his life as he is still a very young man with a lot of life.

    Go Cards Go Gerald Hayes

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