Redskins aftermath

Posted by Darren Urban on September 18, 2011 – 7:45 pm

Beanie Wells, like his teammates, was frustrated. The running back sat at his locker after Sunday’s one-point loss to the Redskins, having seen one slip away. He had watched friend and former teammate Tim Hightower light up the Cards in the first half, and then Wells – who had just six yards rushing on only three first-half carries – roared back in the second half. He ended up with 93 yards on 14 carries and nearly overtook Hightower (96 yards on 20 carries) despite the latter’s head start.

His second-half coming out was “just about opportunity and execution,” Wells said, and I’m sure he wasn’t thrilled it took a half to get there. More importantly, his comment serves well the Cardinals’ entire game Sunday. They had opportunity. They didn’t execute.

The defense is going to have a chance to rally big next week playing in Seattle. Clearly the Seahawks are offensively challenged. Of course, the Cards don’t have the luxury of making any assumptions right now.

— The game played out like bookends. Although the fourth quarter had a different vibe than the first, the end result was the Cards ran six offensive plays in the first quarter, and six in the fourth. The blame falls on both sides – the defense has to find a way to get off the field, the offense a way to stay on – and it’s difficult to win under those circumstances.

— The Redskins, by the way, had 25 plays in the first quarter and 31 in the fourth.

— The way Kevin Kolb took the hit from London Fletcher and still delivered that ball, I mean, that’s the reason his ex-Philly teammates kept swearing by the guy and saying he’d play well in Arizona and why his new teammates love him already.

— Kolb also did the most important thing with Larry Fitzgerald – he just gave Fitz a chance. I know Fitz was wide open, but Kolb was worried he had overthrown him. Nope. Fitz made it work.

— You don’t want to overstate the importance of an injury, but given the way linebacker Daryl Washington played in the opener and given his speed, I find it hard to believe the Redskins would have run the ball so well had Washington been able to play.

— That’s three field-goal blocks for Calais Campbell in his career. Having a 6-foot-8 weapon in the middle there is crucial. Campbell needs to make more of an impact on defense, however.

— Just for a brief moment, I thought Patrick Peterson – maybe, just maybe – was going to break that final punt return.

— You noticed Peterson and A.J. Jefferson a lot less Sunday than last week, Of course, the Redskins were running it more (and with more success) than Carolina did.

— Wells had a good day after he started getting the ball more. It sure seemed like he had most of his success, interestingly, on the quick draw off shotgun snaps.

— Two TDs in two weeks for tight end Jeff King. He’s already one short of his career-best season.

— Former Card RB Tim Hightower got away with baiting the Cards into an early penalty, giving a shot to linebacker Paris Lenon well after the play, setting off a scrum that ended with safety Kerry Rhodes getting nabbed for an unsportsmanlike penalty. Hightower said he knew how to push the buttons of his former teammates. You have to stay out of that stuff if you are a Card (although I’m not sure why Hightower wasn’t flagged in the first place.)

There isn’t a ton to analyze at this point. The Cardinals will have to find a way to slow opponents. Because certainly, when you have a chance to win a road game, you don’t want to see it fade like Sunday’s did.

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  1. By Dan on Sep 18, 2011 | Reply

    Comparing the team to what they were last year to what the are now. I am happy with it. We are beating ourselves and we can control that.


  2. By Superfuzz on Sep 18, 2011 | Reply

    Screw you, Hightower!

  3. By Gilbert on Sep 18, 2011 | Reply

    Clearly better than last year, but not enough to be really good. The good side of the coin is both 49 era n Seattle lost too. So the division is the Cards to losse.

  4. By Aaron on Sep 18, 2011 | Reply

    14 carries. There is no way that is enough carries for Wells. You want to control cllock, keep defense off field, wear down opposing defense. Then why the hell are we not running benie wells more. Kolb is not Warner. He needs a strong committed running game. And yet our head coach seems addicted to the pass in the first half and in the fourth quarter. Please coach, please give the ball to Wells. He is going to dominate if they give him a chance.

  5. By brad oneill on Sep 18, 2011 | Reply

    i thought on the hightower call that the ref may have made a mistake, i thought maybe the official had called it on 25 which i think was hightowers number but somehow message got messed up in translation to the head ref. and because it was a scrum type situation that could have gone either way the ref didnt bother correcting the call. 🙂

  6. By Jesse Robles on Sep 18, 2011 | Reply

    need to find a way for our Defense to START PLAYING, the season did start. Looked like last years team at certain points. Consistency is something I am unsure the Cardinals can ever have, kind of like ASU.

  7. By John from Oz on Sep 18, 2011 | Reply

    Does the coaching panel blame this one on Ben Graham?
    I still can’t believe that they let a proven on and off field leader go.
    6 punts, one inside 20 ……. doesn’t sound as good as many of Graham’s games in 2010.
    Can’t help feeling that Ben’s dumping was an example of anti – Aussie bias!

  8. By Eric on Sep 18, 2011 | Reply

    Here are the things that jump out to me, and they ARE NOT GOOD. 10 penalties, 28 Wash first downs, five from penalties, Wash 6-17 on third down. While I understand this is a new scheme, the defense was its own worst enemy. I hear the statement, “the D was on the field to long”, and I agree. While some of that was short, unsustained drives by the Cards O, I feel most was because the Cards simply couldn’t stop anything the Skins did. Poor, Poor, Poor, defense, and Poor, Poor, coaching on defense.

    Does anyone realize Wash was only 2-7 in the redzone. This should have been a blowout, but fortunately, the Skins are not very good. Call that lucky. When the Skins blitzed, Kolb was running for his life, hit, or sacked. I cannot say the same thing about our blitz, Grossman didn’t have nearly as much trouble with the blitz. Add to that, all the wide open people resulting from our poor gaps on blitzes, and there ya go, pitch and catch all day. Top that off with the inability to get off blocks and they ran it down their throats.

    The score isn’t nearly indicative of the whoping they took today. Poor blocking on pass protection, poor first half run blocking, still not enough run game for sustained drives, and a defense that got stomped.

    Consider everything they gave us, after our drive and the two turn overs Wash had, they had every chance to put them away in the first half, but that never materialized.

    Man, I hope this defense group of players and coaches can figure something out, because right now they stink. I also hope, Whiz wil run the dam ball and open up the passing game some more, it worked for a while, and then they gave up on it. Sorry to rant, just a hard game to stomach today. See ya in Seatle.

  9. By This Guy on Sep 18, 2011 | Reply

    Watching this game just sickens me. TE are left alone, the OLB don’t do any damage when they blitz, rookie Helu just burning the D and all the GD penalties. only thing that made me feel just a little bit better was that the 49ers also lost. I noticed that the CB’s play off way too often allowing easy screen passes. The next 3 teams are weak, I expect 3 wins before the bye before we face good teams

  10. By Jim in Missouri on Sep 18, 2011 | Reply

    Darren, I’m not much for conspiracies, and I’m not sure it would have changed the outcome today, but …

    A few days after Whiz publicly questions the roughing the passer penalty from the opener, and after Marshall Tweets about the NFL admitting it was a legal hit and no fine, the Cards get called for 10 penalties for 97 yards, against only 3 flags and 15 yards for the Redskins. Included was that ridiculous one-sided personal foul call on the skirmish early in the game.

    From your perspective, is that too big a stretch to think that’s not a coincidence?

  11. By Darren Urban on Sep 19, 2011 | Reply

    Jim in Missouri —

    RE: Penalties

    It seems one sided, yes. But I don’t think it had anything to do with last week.

  12. By NJAzCardsFan on Sep 18, 2011 | Reply

    I wonder have many blind sided hits Kolb can take before he is put on IR???
    Kolb’s pass to Fitz for the TD was like threading a needle, a great throw.
    Where was the pass blocking??? No one held back to pick up the blitz???
    The defense has given up about a 1000yds in two games so far- Just pathetic…..

    Darren- feel free to delete this post as you have the others……

  13. By Darren Urban on Sep 19, 2011 | Reply

    NJAz —

    RE: Deleting posts

    Not sure what you are talking about there. Unless there is foul language or duplicate posts (some copy and paste the same comment on multiple posts, and I’ll only post it once), I don’t delete anything.

  14. By Logan cooper on Sep 18, 2011 | Reply

    The lack of run game (lack of run plays) in the first half killed us. I knew we were going to pass the first half when whiz mentioned on the KWShow that the redskins were very good at stopping the run and they would have to adjust to that. That didn’t work out too well.

    5 minutes left, 2nd and 7, we should have ran the ball again, oh well.

    I like what I see from Kolb when he has time. With no pass protection and routes that take time to develop, Kolb has no chance. The running game in the second really helped him have a little bit of time.

    PATRICK PETERSON has got to STOP looking at the QB when covering receivers man to man!!

  15. By georgiebird on Sep 18, 2011 | Reply

    In the last 51 years, Washington is the worst place for the Cards to play. I thought the Cards played ok and maybe one more run for Beanie at the end could have made the difference- but that’s a second guess.
    Bottom line-Washington moved the ball consistently against the Cardinals and deserved to win. Also, SF lost a tougher game so on to next week.
    My question- What in-game adjustments did Ray Horton make to stop the Redskins. I have always felt the Cards should have brought in the best DC money could buy to erase the 51 years of bad to mediocre defenses. Bad defenses are a systemic thing with the Cardinals whether St. Lou or AZ.

  16. By cards>niners on Sep 18, 2011 | Reply

    penalties/2 key turnovers killed us

    aj jefferson improved

  17. By Secret on Sep 18, 2011 | Reply

    I’m not upset about this loss at all. When you think about it, this wasn’t a “must-win” game. The Redskins aren’t a division opponent, the NFC west is 0-3 this week (with the Rams looking like to lose), and they only lost by 1 point. If the Cardinals had a set number of games they were going to lose, this would probably be on of the better ones to lose. Don’t worry Cardinal fans!

  18. By Aaron on Sep 18, 2011 | Reply

    Just my 2 cents, but offensive play selection is pretty atrocious. Sometimes it almost seems as if the coaching staff is allergic to calling run plays.

  19. By DRE on Sep 18, 2011 | Reply

    RUN the dam ball, beans turned it on in the second half WTF

  20. By rio on Sep 18, 2011 | Reply

    Just watch Philly and DCR , listen we stole Kevin Kolb, we have a starting QB and they have a second string Corner.

    Tough loss today but could have gone either way.

    Look out Seattle, the birds are coming.

  21. By rio on Sep 18, 2011 | Reply

    typeo, DRC

  22. By Born n Bred on Sep 18, 2011 | Reply

    Ugly game until they started running and featuring Beanie Wells. This offense needs to make not only Beanie but running the ball, the focus and pace setter and Larry is just gonna have to take the back seat to the run in a way. The pass plays will come to him in the flow of what the run gives us. Oline needs a bounce back game, especially Keith. LB play was not good this game, just way too many yards on the ground and a healthy Washington, you could think would make a difference. Hey D watch tape get coached up and focus up and bounce back next week.

    Hightower fans enjoy this and i hope you get it out of your system cause, Beanie is the man.

  23. By Ron on Sep 18, 2011 | Reply

    Without Veteran CB it will be difficult for the Card defense to stop any offense from getting large chunk of yardage at the end of the day. What your take on this, Darren?

  24. By Darren Urban on Sep 19, 2011 | Reply

    Ron —

    RE: CBs

    As many issues as there might be with young CBs, I am more concerned about consistent pass rush. And the CBs had little to do with giving up 172 rushing yards.

  25. By TucsonTim on Sep 18, 2011 | Reply

    Need “a ton to analyze”, well not really. It’s more of the same. We have 2 of the worst tackles in the NFL and an O-line coach that has no accountability whatsoever. How many more blind side tackles before Kolb is gone for the season. Is there really no one in the CFL, UFL, arena league, practice squads, or anyone of the 100+ tackles that played div 1 in the last 5 years that we can’t bring in??? do we have to only look at Browns and Steelers cast offs?

    You talk about Washington and then reference the slow line backer play and wonder why the 3-4 isn’t working!!?? Nothing new here either.

    The defense only became effective when the field was 20 yards long and speed was discounted. Time to get real. Carter and Williams at tackle. Dockett and Campbell at DE. Washington at middle LB, Lenon and WILSON at outside LB, Marshall and Rhodes at Safety. Rookie of the week at CB. Maybe then we can stop the run and pressure the passer.

    2 old slow LB’s trying to play a 3-4 is a joke. Whiz’s dream of a Pittsburg 3-4 with Porter and Haggans is like a fairy tale story with a donkey winning the Kentucky Derby….makes for good fiction.

    Right here right now this team has no chance against the 49’s who have beat up our O-line for the past 2 years. Without changes. I predict more of the same.

    Seattle should be like a bye week, so there is time to make changes…but not much.

    Anybody ready to bring Graham back to punt. This guy is never going to kill the ball inside the 20.

  26. By Scharf on Sep 18, 2011 | Reply


    Do they really expect Joey Porter to cover these receivers or is it just plainly miscommunication on the defense? Also, going back to the penalty, they had the number right – just flagged the wrong player. lol. Really hope these are just hiccups in Horton’s scheme. Really hope the communication tightens up.

  27. By Darren Urban on Sep 19, 2011 | Reply

    Scharf —

    RE: Porter in coverage

    In that scheme, with those defenders on the field, the OLBs will have to cover sometimes.

  28. By Rick 12 on Sep 18, 2011 | Reply

    Darren –

    Why is there no statistic indicating the total yards given up (lost) due to penalties by both the defense and offense (of the Cards)?

    Would be interesting to see……

  29. By Darren Urban on Sep 19, 2011 | Reply

    Rick 12 —

    RE: Yards lost

    You are right, that would be interesting.

  30. By TucsonTim on Sep 18, 2011 | Reply

    Former Cardinal Hightower didn’t bait anyone into commiting a personal foul. Watch the replay. His back was to the passer. But so what, how stupid do you have to be to get a personal foul on a critical 3rd down play.

  31. By ALONEEAGLE on Sep 18, 2011 | Reply

    First of all, I thought what Hightower did with Lenon was cheap and classless!! I expected alot better from him, and yes I am still quite confused why the flag wasn’t thrown on him, but instead on Rhodes who was no where near the play. Another thing that really bothered me was the hit Kolb took after he releasde the throw to Fitz that was more roughing the passer than last weeks against Marshall. Once again bad on the ref’s. Our run defense really stunk today!! it is hard to believe this team allowed Hightower to keep his “GUARANTEE”!! No offense, but the defense should be embarrased for the second week in a row!! I am really hoping the Rams lose tomorrow night so we are only in a first place tie with the 49ers.

  32. By Keith on Sep 18, 2011 | Reply


    The people (being those on the message board) want to know what is going on with our O-line (specifically Levi Brown). Seems kind of silly to go out and invest that much money in a Quarterback when he is going to end up on a stretcher by the bye week.

  33. By Darren Urban on Sep 19, 2011 | Reply

    Keith —

    RE: OLine

    I don’t know what to tell you except I don’t see Levi going anywhere for now. Kolb wasn’t blameless — a couple of times, he held the ball too long. And on the bomb to Fitz, he admitted he knew before the play someone was going to come unblocked because the Redskins were rushing more than the Cards had in to block.

  34. By UC on Sep 19, 2011 | Reply

    So the Cardinals run 30 pass plays, and 15 rushing plays. Is this what a King Whiz version of focusing on running the football looks like, a 2-to-1 ratio of pass-to-rush plays? They average 6.2 yards per rushing play, and that’s still not good enough for King Whiz to run the ball more? Even removing Beanie’s 25 yard run, they still averaged 4.86 yards per carry. Does King Whiz really think that’s not sufficient to win a game in the NFL? Does King Whiz even know how to successfully execute a rushing-prioritizing game plan? Has he ever even WATCHED a team successfully execute a rushing-prioritizing game plan? EVER?!?!?!?! Is it really going to take Beannie publicly complaining AGAIN before you’ll run the ball more, even if it’s just for one game?

    Hey King Whiz, successful rushing plays on offense use more time on the clock, and give your defense a freaking chance to rest. More time for your defense to rest translates into less chance of fatigue-induced errors by your defense, AND increases the chance of fatigue-induced errors by the other team’s defense. Yes, the concept really is THAT simple. It’s so simple, in fact, that us non-professionals out in football fandom don’t seem to have nearly as much difficulty in grasping it as you do.

    Would somebody in the Cardinals organization please grow a pair and remove the playcalling duties from the dufus head coach? I don’t care if King Whiz is now using some underling to blame for the playcalling, this game was obviously called in accordance with King Whiz’s philosophy. I’m tired of seeing Cardinals players’ talent squandered by NOT smart, NOT tough, and NOT disciplined coaching, despite King Whiz’s claims of what he was bringing to the organization when he was hired. Yeah, King Whiz, you can sling those crap claims right back out the door you came in. Good lord, how stupid can this man be…

  35. By Eazy E on Sep 19, 2011 | Reply

    What a game unfortunately we’re not 2-0, but 1-1 ain’t horrible. Kolb had an efficient game and pretty effective. He threw for 251 yards, 2 tds, and a bad interception but still played fairly well throughout the game. Beanie started off slow because he had all of 3 carries but when he got the ball, boy was he a beast ripping off a total of 14 carries for 93 yards and a walk-in td. Another day at the office for Fitz with 7 catches for a whopping 133 yards and a bomb catch for a 73 yard td. King is making quite an early impact with his 2nd td of the season and 2nd in as many weeks. Andre only had 3 catches and as a starter opposite the best WR in the league and getting alot of single coverage, you have to eat that up and that’s why we’ve been working out donnie avery, jaymar johnson, etc. because of this. T.O. will be here soon because we need somebody opposite Fitz who will eat up single coverage and T.O. does that in his sleep. I’ve been saying that since the lockout was lifted and we lost breaston, braylon, floyd, T.O., etc. Offensive Line played well except for those suspect tackles we have and it always seems to be them. Brandon Keith got almost bullied by Kerrigan, Keith has to be able to control guys like that, Kerrigan might be a good player in the future but it is his 2nd start for goodness sakes. Levi did ok, but we need more from him, the coaches already called you out on those 2 sacks he gave up in the season opener against carolina. Defensively, we’re doing our jobs at a decent mark keeping teams points relatively stable, but we’re giving up way too many yards, my goodness, but it is our 2nd game so i’m going to chill! Run Defense wasn’t good at all today especially compared to shutting down Carolina’s great run game. Hightower had too much fun and helu jr. a rookie even had a big day out of nebraska, unacceptable. Pass rush was too inconsistent without blitzing and I understand it is hard getting a rush from 4 guys but man our cbs are so young and we can’t blitz and leave them on an island all the time, we didn’t get asomugha, like we almost did, but we didn’t! We really did miss Daryl Darren I agree with his speed and instincts. Secondary I thought played very well in spurts and other times maybe not.Giving up the moss corner route on 4th and 3 hurt bad, but we did end up with a couple of picks from a-wil and marshall. Also darren for a moment, I thought the same thing about Patrick on the Punt, he is so fast and explosive, maybe next time!

  36. By Evan on Sep 19, 2011 | Reply

    Interesting Stats from the Washington Loss

    Penalty Yards: AZ 97 | WA 15
    Yards Lost To Sacks: AZ 20 | WA 5

    First Downs: AZ 16 | WA 28
    First Downs from Penalties: AZ 0 | WA 5

    Possession: AZ 21:30 | WA 38:30
    Total Plays: AZ 48 | WA 79

  37. By rojobird on Sep 19, 2011 | Reply

    Dear Cardinals Players eventhough your loss againsrt the Redskins left me sad and empty I still believe in you… There are many mental errors you need to fix please make it sooner than later… Hope this game made you sick to your stomach as it did me cuzz you left one “W” slip away… There isn’t really much more to say JUST PLESASE GET YOUR FN ACT TOGETHER AND PLAY THE GAME THE WAY I KNOW YOUR ARE CAPABLE OFF… THIS LOSS ITS THE PLAYERS AND THE COACHES FAULT ….

  38. By OzJohn on Sep 19, 2011 | Reply

    So is this loss going to be blamed on Ben Graham? He is a proven leader both on and off the field and his record preseason was sound. Even his bad games were better that 6 punts and one inside 20. Cards made a bad mistake getting rid of big Ben.

  39. By John S on Sep 19, 2011 | Reply

    I read articles from people like Kent Somers and he is still saying its all the defense’s fault. People are watching a different game then I am that’s for sure. I think the defense deserves all the credit in the world and its amazing the Redskins didn’t win by 21 more points. Thanks to how many times the Cards defense kept them out of the endzone and held them to field goals or a blocked fg. A team can’t be all defense. The first quarter I kept thinking wow the defense will be burned out before the 2nd half, even the tv announcer mentioned it, showing the incredible difference in time of possession. There has to be some offense. This team is reminding me of last year, other then Kolb being accurate when he rarely isn’t pressured. I am convinced we are seeing why it was critical to bring in a top offensive coordinator and they refuse to. The play calling in the first half was horrible. Not until those quick hand off Beanie runs in the second half were they doing anything. One deep pass to Fitz milliseconds from being sacked is nice but isnt going to work all the time. They need to stop going three and out at critical times. And Kolb seriously needs to work on not getting his throws batted down. I dont know if he throws too low or what. Every defense is going to raise their hands on him just watching film. That batted down pass near the end was probably the cause of the loss. No offense and penalties are killing this team Aggravating to say the least.

  40. By MIKE G on Sep 19, 2011 | Reply

    Hey Darren – Frustrating loss for the Cards. They had a good oppurtunity to win but could not get off the field defensively. You just can’t give up 460 yards to Grossman and the Redskin offense and expect to win. That 4th and three and having Moss open in the end zone was a killer play. Also –the Redkins had 43 throws and we had just one sack. In addition 10 penalties for 97 yards – Not good. At this point it really does not matter what the offense does if our defense is playing like this. Hopefully Horton can improve the unit in the upcoming weeks if we are to win some games?? I think Haggans and Porter are slowing down–we can’t give them a heavy number of snaps in a game. We need to play our younger guys more and just let them learn!!! Whiz has to get this defense straightened out if we are to become a consistent winning team. We can’t just keep changing D-coordinators every other year. I think our team speed on defense needs to improve??? Don’t you think we look a little slow on defense????

  41. By David on Sep 19, 2011 | Reply

    This team better get it going quick or they are going to find themselves in a hole they can’t get out of. Washington should have been a win and a great start to the season winning on the road. The Cards can’t lose at Seattle and need to build on that win to have success this season. They can win this division going away but if Washington happens a couple of games their done!

  42. By Chuck 1 on Sep 19, 2011 | Reply

    Is this de ja vu all over again?
    Can you say 2010 redux?
    For those Kool Aid drinkers who said, after the first game, “the defense will be fine”, you need to rethink that.
    The stats for the Redskins:
    First Downs: 28 (almost twice as many as the Cards)
    Total Net Yards: 455 (almost twice as many as the Cards)
    Rushes-Yards: 35-172 (about 5 oer carry)
    Passing: 283
    Time of Possession: 38:30 (ALMOST TWICE AS MUCH AS THE CARDS!!!)
    Penalties: 3-15 ( 1/3 as many as the Cards and 1/6 the yards)
    Wake up fans. The Cards don’t have the defensive players who can stop the better teams.
    Unless the Cards can get Butkus, Lambert, Lott and several others to come out of retirement, this is going to be a long season.
    7-9 at best.

  43. By Rocky on Sep 19, 2011 | Reply

    PLEEASEEE!!! Somebody do something!!! This team has so much potential.. this could be an awesome year!!! I LOVE A-DUB!!! but have you noticed…seems like every deep throw.. touchdown…blown coverage for a big gain.. our corners and Rhodes are glancing over their shoulders.. in A-Dubs direction!!! they cannot be expected to play their coverage and cover for him too… they take all the heat on the telecast.. the film to the average viewer seems that Rhodes or Peterson blew coverage… when in actuality.. A Dub should have been in help coverage.. the safety HAS to play OVER THE TOP!!!!I’m sure the coaches see it if I can..I just hope they are not affraid to make the changes…( use him in blitz packages… Put him in the box.. Get another Safety that can cover..he is such a talent close to the line… convert to an outside linbackerish role.. I GOT IT!!! A 3-3-1-4 KIND OF SET UP!~!! LOL!! i DONT KNOW??? JUST PLEASE DO SOMETHING.. WE ARE GONNA GET LIT UP AND PLAY FROM BEHIND ALL YEAR… that limits everything this offence could be.. taking opp. from Beannie!! passing 75 % of the time… offense on the field 6 plays in first qtr and 4 qtr.. Just saying UTILIZE his strengths.. because now… he is the most targeted SAFTEY in football by opposing offensive coordinators….. JUST SAYING!!!

  44. By bottletop on Sep 19, 2011 | Reply

    It was so frustrating to see the cards not giving Beanie the carries in the 4th quarter. We have the lead, he was having a beast of a game….give him the ball. Why does miller put pressure on our tackles, who clearly are not strong at pass blocking and try to throw the ball. Even if we end up going 3 and out still at least some time is taken off the clock. This was a game that reminded me of last year, the defense takes the heat but the offensive play calling meant they were exhausted by the 4th. Blown opportunity.

  45. By cooldaddy79 on Sep 19, 2011 | Reply

    I don’t think the defense is really to blame here. Defense played pretty well,except a couple of playes by the rookies. But come on offense line MORE PROTECTION HOLY CRAP!Get Levi Brown out! KIeth he has to go too. damn.

  46. By RED BIRD 66 on Sep 19, 2011 | Reply

    I know Horton said he was going to blitz the first play of the season but it seems like it is every play. At what point do we maybe give PP some help as he is just getting torched so far. That last TD was ridiculous as #21 and #24 were not even close to being in position. Why do we keep blitzing if we can’t put any pressure on. I think we had 1 sack out of 25+ blitz plays. Should of fed #26 the ball 3 times when we had it with 5 min left as he was getting yards. I feel this was a poorly coached game by Whiz and Hortons scheme is a joke-we are not the steelers. Horton better pull it togethers or the chants of fire the DC will be back. I hope not. If we don’t blow out the sea chickens next week we are in trouble defensively.

  47. By A16 on Sep 19, 2011 | Reply

    That was a hard loss to stomach. One thing is certain, though. The defense has to stop giving up penalties that allow the opposing team to stay on the field. We were lucky to just give up 21 points considering how many times we allowed them to drive to our red zone.

  48. By dryans on Sep 19, 2011 | Reply

    Please, Come back Todd, Whiz is lost without you. Besides KC stinks anyway.

  49. By cactus jeff on Sep 19, 2011 | Reply

    The 2 OLB are kiilling the Cardinals. Any hope of changing to a 4-3 on first down and then a 2- 5 on third and long with Adub in the box as the fifth lb and zone blitz from multiple directions.

  50. By Darren Urban on Sep 19, 2011 | Reply

    Cactus Jeff —

    RE: Subpackages on D

    They already run some different subpackages.

  51. By joe67 on Sep 19, 2011 | Reply

    O-line HAS to get better, especially on pass protection. I still think if we stay healthy this team will get better each week. Gonna take a little time, but we are on our way. Next week is a MUST WIN.

  52. By Richard on Sep 19, 2011 | Reply

    It’s one thing when you get beat by a team who puts on a whoopin’ — It leaves an entirely different bitter taste in your mouth when you beat yourself!

    In the 4th, Cards lead by 2, a little over 5 minutes left in the game… The coach should be focus on running out the clock, i.e. RUN THE BALL. Instead, throw, throw, throw, punt… That’s just awful clock management, something that has plagued this team for years. If the COACH would learn how to manage the clock better it would translate into 2 or 3 extra wins a year – and that a lot of extra wins.

  53. By DontTakeLoses on Sep 19, 2011 | Reply

    D: Wondered if you, while at game, felt like we were lucky to be in it at end or unlucky to lose it? Just looked tome like Wash not a good team and we still struggled, road or not.

  54. By Darren Urban on Sep 19, 2011 | Reply

    Don’t Take —

    RE: Feeling at the game

    I thought it was incredibly lucky the Cards were only down 10-7 at the half. The vibe had completely switched by Fitz’s TD — Beanie was running and the Redskins had only managed three more points for the first 20 minutes of the second half.

    Unfortunately, it changed. Sometimes, you have to steal one on the road, and that one was there for the Cards to steal. It wasn’t luck or unluck — the Cards have to close it out.

  55. By clssylssy on Sep 19, 2011 | Reply

    Our guys are going to have to play smarter, We could have/should have had this one but, it was just week 2, not a divisional game so, the best I could hope for is that we learned something. To think Hightower wasn’t going to try to bait our guys every chance he got after publicly stating as much in the paper was just plain ignorant on the Cards part. We should know by know that the NFL has their “darlings” and the Cards aren’t one of them. To expect the officials to call anything on Timmy was a bit nieve; on the other hand Kerry Rhodes has a bit of a reputation so, of course, he would be called just because he is big and…Kerry Rhodes! I am really getting sick of the officiating that goes on within the NFL, not just with the Cards but other teams as well, who don’t have “special privilege” status. While we won the game last week that bad call on Richard Marshall could have been a game changer. Roger Goodell talks a lot about propriety with regard to the players but how about holding the officials to the same standards. We are only two weeks into the season and already it seems like there has been an inordinate amount of fines and penalties handed down to players while plays are being “called back” ?? I’ve never seen so much BS. One of the biggest things I hear is how the Cards are great out of the gate but are unable to finish…isn’t that classic Cards? This team looks to have so much potential so LET’S GET’R’DONE!! We can do this…WE DO THIS TOGETHER!

  56. By Cardfan on Sep 19, 2011 | Reply

    wow…aweful show for a game…yes we could have won but, we had no ball control at all and offensive line failed us again…thanks brandon keith and levi brown (penalties)…not a shocker! If its not giving up sacks its movement on the line..alway! Defense was also a let down where was the team this week?? I’m sorry! Can’t understand the plays.

  57. By Austen Mathews on Sep 19, 2011 | Reply

    Why is it that it always happens to be the Cardinals that seem to give an unknown player on the opposite team the best game of their lives. Helu??? Are you kidding me? How bout in 2005 when Marion Barber was a rookie and blew us up when we went to Dallas. Or how bout Jerious Norwood in 2006 when he gashed us in Atlanta. I mean unknowns have their best games and then are never heard from again. Brock Forsey in 03 ran on us for 134 yards….WHOO?? Im a die hard cards fan…but this has got to stop right now. LETS GET THAT WIN IN SEATTLE!!

  58. By Tx Cards fan on Sep 19, 2011 | Reply

    Throw throw throw throw thow. it they would have run at least a little bit, it’s not even a game. Wells had 6.64 yards per carry on 14 carries for 93 yards. I can see why we stopped running and tried to pass so much. Even with the 200 penalties they still had a chance just run the ball some. Wow, come on Whiz / Miller.

    Also Darren are the cardinals going to start keeping three QB’s active? If the tackle play doesn’t get better soon they will need to and sign a fourth QB to the PS. Brown and Keith need to move into Grimm’s guest room until they can pass block.

  59. By jocards on Sep 19, 2011 | Reply

    Clearly the defense has to be better. The Skins entire offense plays off of that tackle zone run. This is Mike Shanahan’s offense, remember? Our boys simply couldn’t stop them even knowing the obvious tendencies of their offense. One week we are passed all over, the next we are gashed by the run….Yet the team is 1-1…could be 2-0 but could also be 0-2 so I’ll take it. Again the defense has absolutely got to play better or every game will be a major struggle (yeah, like there are any easy weeks in the NFL for this team). All is not lost, the team has issues but I believe they can be fixed.

  60. By ross on Sep 19, 2011 | Reply

    Great pic selection, darren!

  61. By Andy M on Sep 19, 2011 | Reply

    Darren: Ditto on the Washington comment. He is a critical player for the Cardinals defense–which is weaker than expected. The corners need to grow up quick. The OLB’s are old (two bad games in a row by Porter who is compensating for lost physical skills with stupid efforts to “cheat” on plays), the safeties lack speed and coverage capability, DD and CC seem to be under-performing like last year. It seems like the Cardinals have guys who either are at the beginning of a learning curve, too long in the tooth–or are under-performing. Because the personnel is middling, it seems like every week it will be a choice between giving away run yards or pass yards. The so-called “pressure” from RH has yet to materialize with any impact. Washington is the key cog in holding the defense together.

  62. By Christo on Sep 19, 2011 | Reply

    This is the same Cards.

    Garbage OL on the LT side.

    Costly penalties.

    Inexcusable turnovers.

    Sub-par D.

  63. By NJAzCardsFan on Sep 19, 2011 | Reply

    After the last game I had post where I was highly critical of ESPN and the Sports media in general regarding the coverage of the Cards Panthers game. Their coverage was all about Cam (ad nauseum) and totally ignored the 89yd return by PP to win the game. Maybe I was incorrect, as there seems to be a delay due to the post being reviewed by the Moderator- you.
    My apologies if I was mistaken.

  64. By Ben on Sep 19, 2011 | Reply


    It seems like every year we have two or three games where we have a lead with 5 or 4 min left in the game and the O has the ball. Almost every time we abandon the run, take no time off the clock and end up punting with 3 min left on the clock. It is becoming a Whiz MO or a broken record with this playcalling style.

    With Bean running the ball SO well in the second half why would we not run the ball three times in a row to AT LEAST take some more time off the clock. We gave Wells ONE rush for three yards then PASS PASS?

    Will Whiz ever learn that a three 3 yard gaines taking off a minute of time in that situation is better than passing and taking off 10 seconds of clock?

    We always blame the D for bending in those situations but they were tired and even that extra minute of time would have given them some more rest if we did have to punt.

    Is this something that I am just going to have to accept from here on out. That with the lead in the 4th Whiz will abandon the run every time????

  65. By Darren Urban on Sep 19, 2011 | Reply

    Ben —

    RE: Clock

    See, I disagree with you in this circumstance. Given how it played all, all that would have done is made sure the Redskins kicked a field goal to end the game, instead of the Cards having 1:46 with a chance to score themselves (before the Stuckey fumble).

    I get bleeding clock with a touchdown-plus lead. I get it if you have the ball with three minutes left. I don’t get it with a little more than 5 minutes left.

  66. By cards62 on Sep 19, 2011 | Reply

    I think Eric and Tuscon Tim said it best. Our defense is just not good and is the main reason we lost this game. I know Washington was out and he makes a big difference but our front line just is not getting it done. Redskins never punted in the first half or I believe the 4th quarter. What was it 3rd and 4 and A. WIlson lets S. Moss get wide open in the endzone in the 4th quarter. I really like A. WIlson but I feel the same way about him now as I do Money Mike. When I know other teams have to pass I pray the coaches put him on the sidelines.

    As bad as our defense plays it would have been very nice to see what Kevin Kolb could have done against a depleted Redskin secondary running the 2 minute offense at the end of the game and only needing a field goal unfortunately Rod Grave’s best player available at WR C. Stucky forgot the ball. I just love xxxxxxxx Cleveland players. A # 2 receiver should would have been nice. I just wish someone other than us members would have seen the need.

    In our last 18 games our 2 best performances by a QB is Kevin Kolb and Kevin Kolb. Kevin keep up the good work and get rid of the ball in 4 seconds or take off running or you will get killed.

    I wish we would run the ball more. I called for Beanie to have a big year and he is on pace to have even a bigger year than I called, 1,200 yards, but we only fed him the ball 14 times. I think our line is a stronger run blocking line so I think we could earn more first downs this way, keep Kolb healthier, and keep our defense where it belongs, on the sideline.

    Go Cards beat Seahawks

  67. By MIKE G on Sep 19, 2011 | Reply

    Hey Darren– On that Moss touchdown in the fourth quarter– that is the type of coverage that is killing the Card’s and some of the other secondaries in the league. There seems to be a high percentage of mis-communication today. On that play Peterson and A-Dub both got caught on the play. It seems the corner covers the receiver for a time then passes the coverage to another player who often is caught flat footed because he is not either ready nor has the speed to make up ground. The receiver just runs free off the line of scrimmage with no contact. There has to be more man to man coverage(especially 4th & 3). I noticed this the last 5 to 10 years in todays throwing NFL. That coverage doesnt work!!! This defense must change its approach — wait til they play a good offense — this could get scary. We still need to give Horton more time but we must see improvement. Like you said before the season– pass rush is the main concern on this team!!! If its not there–big problems! Do you think they have the talent to execute this 3-4 defense???

  68. By Darren Urban on Sep 19, 2011 | Reply

    Mike G —

    RE: Talent level

    I don’t know. But I don’t know if 3-4 vs 4-3 makes that big of a difference.

  69. By josh on Sep 19, 2011 | Reply

    we need to step up on defense

  70. By josh on Sep 19, 2011 | Reply

    stucky should of tuck that ball in

  71. By jdcrow59 on Sep 19, 2011 | Reply

    What was a very winable game turned into what should have been a blowout for the skins. Play calling in the first half was a joke. Sure looks like Whiz is still playing O.C. And if the scheme on defense requires Porter to try and play pass coverage, either change the scheme or the player. That part of his game is long gone. Kolb is going to be a good one, but expecting him to carry the load is way to much pressure. The running game is there. Use it. Give the defense time to catch their breath and just maybe they will make a play when you really need it.

  72. By josh on Sep 19, 2011 | Reply

    man i want to meet larry fitzgerld

  73. By josh on Sep 19, 2011 | Reply

    larry is gonna have 1573 yards

  74. By georgiebird on Sep 19, 2011 | Reply

    I find it somewhat humorous that after two games, many of the guys are seeing this team my way- negatively.
    In my 51 years of following the Cardinals, the defense has been overmatched, slow and most of all, poorly coached.
    I don’t want to come down on Horton but he’s a flyweight. The Cardinal defensive job required a super-human effort. This isn’t two games or two years of bad defense, it’s about 700 games and I mean it, literally. Except for 3 shutouts in the merger year 1970 against AFL teams, the Cardinal defense has been pretty bad.
    Bad Cardinal defense is systemic and Whiz has never realized the gravity and history of the problem. Further all the ex-Pittsburgh guys should be coaches not players except for Larry that is.
    But Whiz will just bang that 3-4 down everyone’s throat-thank God were in the NFL West- it fits the intellect of our coaching staff.

  75. By Ben on Sep 19, 2011 | Reply


    Thanks for the response to my question. I hope I didnt come off as too negative bcasue I have a pretty positive outlook this season. Feel that the FO and Whiz have had a great off-season and I really like Kolb.

    I just do not understand why it is so hard for Whiz to want to run the ball. It is like he is allergic to the thought of calling a run play.

    I get having Fitz out there, but everything will open up for him if we just start calling more run plays.

    Thanks for the response. I will just have to get used to the fact that we are a pass first offense and Whiz will always be that way.

  76. By UK Card on Sep 19, 2011 | Reply

    We’ve got to STOP LOSING GAMES IN THE 4th QTR!! Thought we had it in the bag! Have to keep playing all the way!!!!!!!!!

    WE NEED TO RUN ALL OVER!!! The Sea Chickens next week and play lights out! We always struggle playing the Hawks @ home! Hope Kolb is ready and doesn’t need to practice with the speaker clad golf cart!!!!

    Loved to see the blocked kick. We’ve got some tough games mid/late season, so NEED to get these early ones wrapped up!!

    GO CARDS!!!!!!!!!!!!! 4th QTR Football!

  77. By Chuck 1 on Sep 19, 2011 | Reply

    I have not been a fan of Rod Graves’ draft choices, FA decisions and existing player contracts e.g. Faneca, Porter, Haggans, ADub, Cody Brown, Buster Davis, yes, DD (who’s been almost invisible), Levi Brown etc. etc.
    Until Graves changes his decision-making (does anyone expect that to happen???), the Cards’ offense and defense will be average at best.
    And, Whiz’s play calling??? I know. I know. Miller is the OC. But, the HC certainly has a big influence. I agree with the fans who are criticizing the heavy emphasis on passes.

  78. By cmonman on Sep 19, 2011 | Reply

    How depressing reading all of the negativaty on the Cardinals and coaches. I see from all of your comments that you know the exact answers and could do the job better than them, but c’mon, support the Cards, don’t just dog them when it’s not going smooth.

  79. By clssylssy on Sep 19, 2011 | Reply

    Georgie and anybody else not paying attention: News flash—this isn’t the same ole Redskins and Grossman is kicking it! Obviously they outplayed us but not as bad as everyone seems to believe…while a loss is a loss, we held them to one point! Actually we beat ourselves if you consider the penalties and turnovers. It would total rock if we could get Haley back from KC–they hate him and are ready to give him the boot. Fans hang all the franchise/team/player problems on him, (not unlike here in Arizona with Whiz)must go with the job description. If the Cards can learn from the mistakes they’ve made so far this year, we have the juice to make it happen, GO CARDS! LET’S DO IT AGAIN!

  80. By roland on Sep 19, 2011 | Reply

    if the cards dont run as much as they pass it wont be easy to win.They also need to use the four three defence more.Lets win some games and kick some assss GO CARDS

  81. By Ottis Anderson Fan on Sep 20, 2011 | Reply

    As long as this team is in first place, or tied for first in the lowly NFC West, this team will be satisfied because they will be on pace to meet their preseason-stated goal of reaching the playoffs and then seeing what happens (unlike other teams who have a stated goal of going to the Super Bowl and winning it).

    This team does the minimum to get by until their backs are up against the wall, or until the media starts taking jabs at them for being a team that only turns it on when they want to turn it on. In absence of any desperation or a chip to put on their shoulders, expect the mediocrity, sloppy play, turnovers and penalties to continue. That’s just the way this team operates under this head coach.

  82. By clssylssy on Sep 20, 2011 | Reply

    ,,,and for the record in case anybody is looking around to see how other teams are doing, the STEELERS got killed last week and the RAVENS were humiliated this week by an old man QB with the Titans! We are 1:1 and historically have not done well in the East…so holding the Skins to a one point loss is an improvement. While I think this game was winable, Grossman, Moss, and the rest of the Redskins were tough and if can be consistent and hungry for a win next week and not beat ourself we should be good. This team is looking much improved and it seems amazing that people seem to foget that we had a lockout and our “new” people haven’t been together all that long…including Ray Horton. SUPPORT THE CARDS!

  83. By Eazy E on Sep 20, 2011 | Reply

    All the fans calling for a change in defensive scheme need to chill out. We aint doing that, they have to improve overall, but it is 2 games.

  84. By nodavis2000 on Sep 20, 2011 | Reply

    Hey all negative DEFENSE posters,

    GET A GRIP ON YOURSELVES!!! You all think the D lost us the game? I know they made some bad plays, but COME ONE. The Skins only scored 22. They did enough to get us a win.

    Look at the statistics. The O had about 90 yards IN THE FIRST HALF. And then a handful of plays in the 4th quarter. Tell me TWO teams that can dominate ONE QUARTER of football and still win the game? No one can. If our O did better in the 1st or 2nd, we would have won this game.

    Defense is getting better. The O does need to step up a little bit. We’ll be fine. And if you still want to blame the D, go back and watch the whole game again, ONLY when our O is on the field, without the 3rd quarter.


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