Heap, Taylor inactive; Skelton backup QB

Posted by Darren Urban on October 23, 2011 – 11:35 am

After the bye, the Cardinals have made some changes to inactives — some injury-related, some not. As expected, TE Todd Heap (hamstring) is out, after missing all week of practice. But John Skelton has been elevated on the depth chart as backup QB, with Richard Bartel inactive for the first time this season. RB Chester Taylor is also inactive, with Beanie Wells and LaRod Stephens-Howling all healthy again (with Alfonso Smith). Smith was officially moved ahead of Taylor on the depth chart this week.

The other inactives for the Cards:

  • S Kerry Rhodes (foot)
  • T D’Anthony Batiste
  • TE Jim Dray (pectoral)
  • DE Ronald Talley

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49 Responses to “Heap, Taylor inactive; Skelton backup QB”

  1. By riwjr on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    Darren, why are we not using Chester Taylor hardly if at all?

  2. By Darren Urban on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    Riwjr –

    RE: Taylor

    He just hasn’t shown enough to warrant playing time.

  3. By AndyStandsUp on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    What’s up with Taylor? Not fitting in well ?
    I thought he’d be a great third down back and even with LaRuSH healthy, would get some snaps.

  4. By Alex Mann on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    Why is Skelton the back up QB? Is he healthy?

  5. By Darren Urban on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    Alex Mann —

    RE: Skelton

    Yes he is healthy. And apparently he has shown more — or the Cards have seen enough of Bartel — to want to make a change.

  6. By Codyw on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    letsss goo big redddd

  7. By Peter in Canada on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    Good to see Skelton move to backup. He has a higher upside than Bartel and we need to find out if he has the potential to be more than just a backup. Bartel does not.

  8. By Nate on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    I want Haggard and drink too much Porter play well at OLB today. If the cards loose and we get good play out of those two i will be happy.

  9. By Nate on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    I want Housler to work with Kolb. Too many times have they failed.

  10. By cardfancolorado on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    well 14-0 skelton should be warming up and how pathetic is it to see more steeler fans than card fans sitting watching the game in colorado just losing my mind

  11. By james on Oct 24, 2011 | Reply


  12. By Big Red on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    WOW our Defense looks horrible!!!!!!!!!!!!!……. WHY cant haggins sack BEN!!!!?!?!?!?! Sub him out!!!! Acho and Scholfield Time

  13. By lg on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    this def sucks i dont no if yall are watching or not but its bad real bad big ben is making it look real easy out their

  14. By Big Red on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    WOW We cannot run a screen if our life depended on it!!!!!!!!! SAD…..New Oline, and NEW coaching staff… Bye week did nothing for us

  15. By ALONEEAGLE on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    How much longer do they stick with Kolb? This is getting really ugly! Not really much more to say. Need to make a change. Until this team picks up a quality # 2, Fitz is going to continue to have a miserable season. One more note, might as well try Skelton, he can’t do much worse!

  16. By Havasu Tom on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    Another really poorly called game by Whiz. Have the brass to make the changes necessary, or move on. It’s time for Skelton. He was at least 2 and 2 in four starts.

  17. By cardsalltheway on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    Dan Dierdorf…”Cardinals have been stewing in their own juices.” It looks that will continue into the future. After the Cardinals(Ravens) and Rams(Saints) lose next week the Rams come to AZ to play us in Week 9, if the Rams beat the Cardinals for their first win can we please fire Ken W.? He has got to be the MOST OVERRATED NFL coach in the NFL, but I don’t understand why when the only thing he tries to do is be like the Pittsburgh Steelers(EPIC FAIL).

  18. By greg on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    Why didnt whiz trade for a CB im sure alot of fans would have liked to have seen an attempt to make the secondary better than no attempt at all jefferson sucks and peterson is a rook i mean come on man

  19. By rojobird on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply


  20. By Scott H on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    Looking ahead – and being about as realistic as one can be at this point – there are nothing but more losses ahead for this team. The Ravens? No chance. Philly ( in Philly )? Not happening. Dallas? Nope. Still have two against the 49ers…two more for the loss column. We DO have 2 coming up against the Rams…and I can pretty much guarantee the Rams will get their first win in one of those games. 4-12 would have been un-thinkable for most before the season started. Now? They have to win 3 more games just to reach that. And there might not be 3 more games this team can win.

    Yeah….we sure are doing this together, aren’t we?

  21. By cardsalltheway on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    Vote whether you approve/disapprove of the job Ken W. is doing as head coach…

  22. By cardsalltheway on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    Ken W. must not have had confidence in his team to recover an on-side kick(or he’s saving it until next week when he fugures he might need it more). I say he doesn’t have confidence in almost anything, he sure doesn’t show he has any in his players.

  23. By GW on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    Kevin kolb right now is only 1 notched above DA because he is not a elite qb but he being paid like one thanks fitz you cant complain because he is the guy you wanted.HE LOOK LIKE A DEER IN HEAD LIGHTS and he does not step into his pass. who’s the qb coach kolb mechanics is off.Andy Reid should be a used car salesmen he sure can sell you a (Lemon) oh i mean a kolb.

  24. By GW on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    wow! if only the cards could play like the steelers.OH wait they have all former steelers coaching staff but they play like the BROWNS.

  25. By GW on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    IM tired of hearing kolb need more time to learn the off. are we in the 7th week and he cant grasp this off. then sit him on the bench until he is ready and put SKELTON in who should know the off. give the kid a shot the season is already and if anyone disagree with me on this then let andy sell you a more thing the def is horrible lets have more player only meetings????????

  26. By GW on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply


  27. By didit again on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    This head coach needs to give a chance to Skeleton next week. Skeleton is a QB who stands and throw; he doesn’t make rounds like a chicken. If he need to get out of the pocket, he is hard to takle. GIVE A CHANCE TO SKELETON.

  28. By dylan on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    Thank you so much Darren for keeping up with this blog and everything else that you do. It must be really terrible having to cover such a terrible team and remain so calm about it since your working close to the organization. I hardly ever read much on the Cards anymore since it is always bad news.

  29. By james on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply


    I’m back! this time last year, at the games I was chanting for John Skelton! I did the same thing today as i watched a sad pathetic offensive showing! Darren i realize how Kolb was a costly addition! what are the chances we see John Skelton?

  30. By Darren Urban on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    James —

    RE: Skelton

    I do not think that’s going to happen but at 1-5, I wouldn’t rule anything out.

  31. By cardsalltheway on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    First for the Steelers… and they have R. Horton to thank. He allowed the Steelers(M. Wallace) the longest play from scrimmage(95 yards) in Steeler history. Cardinals = Steelers PART DEUX

  32. By cardsalltheway on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    Kolb must have the lowest Pct. of rolling(scrambling) right and completing passes, I’d bet his rolling left Pct. is as high(I mean low). Aren’t right handed throwers suppose to be able to convert some of those passes? How about drawing up a play that gives him a blocker which could give him some confidence in actually completing a pass while rolling right or scrambling in other(most) situations?

  33. By Ronnie on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    John needs to start I feel all along he should have been named the starting Quarterback…….

  34. By georgiebird on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    This is no longer on Whiz- the Bidwills are now front and center on this miserable season. If the Bidwills can’t see the incompetence in the coaching staff than the Bidwills (not the fans) deserve what they are getting.
    Whiz proved to me long ago that the jump to HC was too much for him. Over the past two seasons many others on this site have adopted my view.
    Given the higher Cardinal budget in recent years and the wonderful facilities, Whiz is not as good as his predecessors and they were all fired.
    But I can’t expect Whiz to walk away from the money, it’s up to the Bidwills to realize they’ve hired only one competent coach (Coryell) and a lot of lemons over the past 50 year period.

  35. By horned frog on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    what a bunch of fickle people. Kolb isn’t even playing that bad, he misses a couple throws, but who doesn’t. For what he’s surrounded with I think he’s doing pretty good. Don’t you think if Skelton was good enough to start mentally and physically they would have turned it over to him already. Obviously the cardinals know something we don’t. The “promotion” of Skelton tp backup isn’t even a promotion, he was always officially the number 2 on depth chart, but Bartel earned it in preseason so they let him keep it until people started calling for Kolb’s head. Now that cards are struggling somebody will be held accountable as to why the kid who was 2-2 as starter last year isn’t the number 2 this year regardless of how Bartel played. Politics, welcome to NFL. Kolb is going to start over Skelton because he was payed millions. Skelton was going to get the backup job back regardless because he was drafted by this staff last year. Bsrtel surprised everyone with an opportunity and deserved the backup, but the fact is he’s an undrafted free agent journeymen. When you realize all this it has a lot more to do with politics than talent.

  36. By dylan on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    Hamza Abdulla said “I’m sorely disappointed in the #BirdGang. You might be disappointed in us, but we play well at home. And we lean on y’all to pick us up.”

    I respect the basis of what he is saying but he is dead wrong. What a huge baby blaming the fans for the teams crappy performance. Grow up. I had season tickets and did not enjoy spending my hard earned cash to watch a group of guys not play well. I will be a fan and support and go to the occasional game. However, this guy is crying about us not supporting him when he makes 1,000 times what I make and I am not spending my money to see them get worked again and again and again. I was a season ticket holder for multiple years and last year was rough. I did not want to spend 5-6 hours of my Sunday feeling pissed and like crap because this team could not pull it together.

  37. By scobrem1 on Oct 24, 2011 | Reply

    why is chester taylor still on the roster……

  38. By clssylssy on Oct 24, 2011 | Reply

    Just curious …did whiz prove to you before or after the SB that he was not HC material? He has a boss just like everybody else and that is Michael Bidwell, who I would venture to bet has NEVER played football at any level. The owners are also the ones who sign all the checks so in actuality make all the final decisions and are responsible for the plight of the Cardinals. THEY were the ones who were too cheap to retain our good players…so, maybe you are finally getting the picture. Who was the last coach who took us to a SB? And, FYI, it was more than Warner and Fitz who got us there…it was a TEAM EFFORT..I’m sure Warner and Fitz would tell you that!. I don’t know why we continue to play Kolb when we have Skelton and Bartel who know what they are doing, unless, it has something to do with the fact that Mr.Bidwell paid $66,000,000 for him and now wants to make sure he rides his “investment” as long as he can and doesn;t know enough to admit when he messed up. What you seem to also overlook is how valuable Todd Haley was as an OC and finding a replacement should have been a priority. You know things could be worse….you could be a Colts “fan”!

  39. By emm7777 on Oct 24, 2011 | Reply

    I’m glad Skelton is backup. He had potential, experience, and great size. They squashed that potential (At least for one more year) by overpaying for Kolb.

    The same way they are destroying D. Dockett’s potential by sticking him on the End position in a 3-4 Defense. The guy is a beast and unfortunately, since our old LBs SUCK, he sees 2 blockers on every play! It is sad, he is an elite player in this league and they are wasting him at the moment.

  40. By Stop making excuses on Oct 24, 2011 | Reply

    Rod Graves and Ken Whisenhunt are responsible for this mess ,PERIOD. No Excuses

  41. By Scott H on Oct 24, 2011 | Reply

    Stop making excuses –

    You said it, bro. Right on, 100% accurate. Though they do not wear uniforms and take the field on Sundays, what we are seeing right now is a complete and utter failure of the front office and coaching. period. The sooner changes are made, the sooner we can start to look forward.

    Perhaps Kolb would not look like such a disaster if he had any semblance of an O-line in front of him…if we had a RB who wasn’t hurt every other week….if we had any WR’s other than Fitz that ANYONE in the civilized world has ever heard of…asking Kolb to step into this friggin mess and make it work is completely un-reasonable and un-realistic. Ever heard the saying you can’t make chicken salad with chicken @!&#? Well, there ya have it. That’s what Kolb is being asked to do and I don’t think the results should be a surprise to anyone.

  42. By birdofafeather on Oct 24, 2011 | Reply

    i dont understand why kolb is outside the huddle, hes like 4 feet away then goes in to make say the play, hes not encouraging the team at all, i see no commandeer at all. even on the sideline hes not cheering up the other players. it like hes not one of them. hes suppose to be the leader. everyone keeps saying how good he is. we dont have time to wait.

  43. By horned frog on Oct 25, 2011 | Reply

    Darren help me understand the “Skelton” bandwagon. He’s been in the system longer than Kolb and Bartel, is 2-3 as a starter (five games is an adequate sample size) and completed less than 45% of his passes in the 2 games they did win when he started with an average completion percentage of 47% in all five games he started. He has 4 turnovers and 2 TD’s. In a new system with no offseason Kolb has proven better than that with the same sample size of games as Skelton and he was passed in camp by Bartel who also has not been here for an offseason. I don’t get why people love this dude?

  44. By Darren Urban on Oct 25, 2011 | Reply

    horned frog —

    RE: Skelton

    The most popular player on the team — struggling teams — is always the backup QB.

  45. By BIG RED on Oct 26, 2011 | Reply

    Hey, horned toe you have to remember he was a rookie, what has this idiot kolb done in the NFL for five years. Who cares about the numbers, it’s about winning and his record last year was 2-2 as a starter. If it wasn’t for Peterson’s punt return Kolb’s record would be 0-6, get the picture, NOW! We want to WIN NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  46. By BIG RED on Oct 26, 2011 | Reply

    I’ll bet you anything when Skelton is up there with the elite QB’s you’ll have his picture on the wall.

  47. By Jessica on Oct 26, 2011 | Reply

    Cardinals fans are totally bandwagon. You had one great season with Kurt Warner and expect it to continue. Kolb is a GREAT quarterback, a quarterback of the future. Being traded RIGHT before the season starts and making his first real career start in the NFL, learning a whole new playbook and working with players and coaches that he has NEVER seen before is not going to happen over night!! He had not mini camps, no off season to learn anything, no prep time. He is the best pick of last year that the Cardinals could have gotten and he is going to lead this team to great success in the future. So for all of you that expected him to come in and have a winless season, you are idiots. The Cardinals need a better offensive line and time to teach Kolb how this offense works. Keep praying for Skelton and your season is over you losers that no nothing about football. I feel bad for the Cardinals because they don’t have any solid fan base.

  48. By Patrick on Oct 28, 2011 | Reply

    I don’t think Whisenhunt has really given John Skelton a chance to merit a shot. I mean in the 4 games that John Skelton played he went 2-2 that’s pretty decent for a rookie, and most of his throws where dropped balls by his recievers. I saw most of his gametapes and he actually was on target a good majority of the time. He looked much better than his actual numbers have posted. In my opinion Whisenhunt should have given John Skelton the starters position and allowed Kolb to sit back and absorb the offensive system because from what I’ve seen Kolb really hasn’t done anything productive. I think if we lose this game against the Ravens Whisenhunt will have no choice but to give John Skelton another shot to prove that if he’s the right man for the job. Hopefully, Ray Lewis puts Kolb out of his misery and we can get a QB that can really throw the football.

  49. By jordan on Oct 30, 2011 | Reply

    The cardinals coaches are not that stupid to put skelton in over kolb. If anything over the offseason they will upgrade their oline so kolb can actually play and bring this team some wins. Anyone who knows football would evaluate the team and learn what the problems are here.

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