A bad foot, and sailing throws UPDATE

Posted by Darren Urban on November 3, 2011 – 10:17 am

There was a report by ESPN’s Adam Schefter this morning that Cardinals quarterback Kevin Kolb is unlikely to play Sunday because of his foot injury and noted Kolb will not practice today. The players aren’t even on the field yet today, I’m not sure exactly who might’ve passed along info about Kolb’s practice plan. Nevertheless, Kolb acknowledged yesterday he wanted to try to play Sunday with limited practice work, but given his injury, “unlikely” has been the vibe all along anyway.

(Quick aside: This time last week, I thought Beanie Wells was unlikely to play too. Two totally different situations, and Kolb is gimpy, but you get the point.)

Kolb is in pain with his nasty turf toe (which means his ligaments are either sprained or torn down there, ouch) and Kent Somers reported he has a bone bruise and a mid-foot sprain as well. As Kolb himself mentioned yesterday — and which coach Ken Whisenhunt reiterated — Kolb’s ability to play is less about pain and more about the ability to perform. Kolb mentioned his passes could sail without the proper plant and drive off his injured foot. Already Kolb’s accuracy was something to watch.

In his first four games, Kolb completed 61.5 percent of his passes. The last three, it’s dipped to 50.5 percent. He wasn’t helped by his bad foot in Baltimore (he was only 10-of-21) or by drops (according to Stats, Inc., the Cards have dropped 14 of 145 “catchable pass attempts” this season, tied for 8th-most in the NFL.) That’s what the Cards have to measure.

Of course, if John Skelton plays instead, accuracy will still be something upon which to focus. In four starts last season, Skelton completed 40.5, 51.5, 44.0 and 56.0 percent of his passes (47.5 percent overall).

UPDATE: People were asking for the drops when Skelton played. According to Stats, Inc., in 126 pass attempts, receivers dropped 10 of 70 “catchable passes” from Skelton, which is a dropped pct. of 14.3%.

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38 Responses to “A bad foot, and sailing throws UPDATE”

  1. By AB on Nov 3, 2011 | Reply

    It’s a good time to start Skelton.

    Cards are 1-6 and Kolb is hurt.

    They can’t go wrong with a different quarterback starting against a 1-6 Rams with Bradford hurt.

  2. By tom watson on Nov 3, 2011 | Reply

    How many of Skelton’s were drops in the games he played last year?

  3. By Darren Urban on Nov 3, 2011 | Reply

    Tom Watson —

    RE: 2010 drops

    I don’t have that info. I have added the info above.

  4. By Ronnie on Nov 3, 2011 | Reply

    If Anyone seen any of those games by Skelton most of the incompleted passes were due to Recievers not catching catchable balls………

  5. By azred21 on Nov 3, 2011 | Reply

    PLEASE PUT IN SKELTON! A hundred % Skelton is better than a maybe if were lucky 75% Kolb…. this is a good week to rest Kolb anyways because we’re going against a team who doesn’t have their starting QB either

  6. By FanSinceLomax on Nov 3, 2011 | Reply

    Kolb worst nightmare, Skelton playing extremely well.
    Throwing for 350+ yards and 3-4 TD’s, I understand this won’t happen most likely.
    If it does happen it will be ‘Well it was against the Rams”.
    It really would be a nightmare for him, if he thinks people are hard on him now, just wait if Skelton succeeds on a high level or just even wins.
    That being said Rich Bartel had a impressive preseason, and he’d be the QB I’d start on Sunday.
    To me he is a little be better than Skelton, and Kolb right now.

  7. By MIKE G on Nov 3, 2011 | Reply

    Hey Darren–Nice Write-up on Skelton and the backup QB. If Kolb isnt 90-100% I would sit him. A week off may do him good. Just play Skelton for a week and shoot for Kolb against his old mates in Philly. I would be curious to see how Skelton handles the start against the Rams and how the rest of the team reacts.
    This game could be a good duel between B Wells and S Jackson. Darren — Do you think Todd Heap will go???–
    I know he was limited in practice the other day.

  8. By Darren Urban on Nov 3, 2011 | Reply

    Mike G —

    RE: Heap

    I would think Heap would play, but then again, I thought he was going to play in Baltimore.

  9. By Travis on Nov 3, 2011 | Reply

    I think this is a great time to start John! If there was a perfect time to see what we’ve got, it would be now. I also think that it is important to show Skelton that he has support from the team. The backup QB position is extremely inportant in the NFL, you never know when his number will be called, you want to be sure that he is competent when that happens! Plus, John has been in AZ longer and should(operative word) have a better grasp of the offense.

  10. By BIG RED on Nov 3, 2011 | Reply

    If Kolb really cared about the team and he knows his not 100%, then just sit and let Skelton play. John Skelton most of the fans a pulling for you. Make us proud. Your the man!!!!!!!

  11. By jstn on Nov 3, 2011 | Reply

    Cardinals NEED time to get team positioned right. maybe next season or the fallowing one will be the break-out year, but untill the mechanics is fromed and plays are drawn up this cardinals team is going no where but to the study charts and conference rooms. i made a mistake early on over looking the reality of a NFL team and expected Cards to dominate this year, dont know where my head was at. Truth to the matter is this boat is yet to be built, as long as mechanics is progressively improving and intel is being gathered by the barrel full Cardinals will build a 10+ win season in 2013 no doubt. Its going to take TIME!!!! Get off Kolbs back also, the dude is young and a rookie to some extent, 2-3 seasons in he will be a top QB. More peeps need to call out Larry, im sorry but his bad plays are more then his incrediable plays and thats not exceptiable. Offensive Line is a JOKE, like puppys out there playing.

  12. By Christo on Nov 3, 2011 | Reply

    Lol the Rams are going to punk us.

  13. By David Harris on Nov 3, 2011 | Reply

    I wouldn’t worry about Skelton play last year–he did alright then, and this is a
    year later!!! I think you will be surprised.

  14. By Rich on Nov 3, 2011 | Reply


    Man, a couple plays…..a couple ref calls…………..and the Cards are 4 and 3. The whole mood would change. I’ll be at the game Sunday.

    We don’t hear much about Deuce’s weight. Is he at the weight the team wants him to be? More to lose?

  15. By Darren Urban on Nov 3, 2011 | Reply

    Rich —

    RE: Deuce’s weight

    I believe Deuce has reached the appropriate weight, or at least near there. I think it’s a moot point though, because I don’t expect him to play unless Hadnot gets injured.

  16. By Sarah on Nov 3, 2011 | Reply

    Skelton all the way !!! Let’s take the kid out of mothballs and see where he is at in his second year, will be rusty at first but we all want to see the progression. Bartel was good against the scrubs during the pre season, he reminds me of Hall with his rah rah. We need a leader and Skelton showed that last year.

  17. By jocards on Nov 3, 2011 | Reply

    Darren –

    If Skelton indeed gets the start this weekend and if the team actually wins the game…..Well, do you have any vacation remaining this year? I’m sure you are aware that you’ll be busy.

  18. By Darren Urban on Nov 3, 2011 | Reply

    jocards —

    RE: Skelton/Kolb

    That’s why I wrote about it the other day. Bottom line, Kolb is going to play when healthy, regardless of Skelton.

  19. By Jesse Robles on Nov 3, 2011 | Reply

    I just like how the Cardinals always play O Linemen out of position, exactly like Levi Brown, if a player plays better at a different, or their ORIGINAL POSITION, move them back. Look what happened once the Cards got rid of Leonard Davis to the Cowboys and they put him at the right position. If you are going to play people out of position, PUT DUECE IN!! Duece will block better than any of our linemen at any position, but he isn’t Ken’s “FAVORITE,” Because of his weight. If a guy plays better, and more physical, who cares? Everything else Ken goes against has shown no positives this season, might as well try new scenarios with what he is already doing.

  20. By Archman on Nov 3, 2011 | Reply

    I, for one, do not believe that Kevin Kolb can be properly evaluated unless he has both this season as well as next. Fans can be fickle, just a few weeks ago we were all hailing him as the “one” who would be bringing winning football back.
    Give the guy a break as well as Ray Horton on the “D”. Russ Grimm and the offensive line pass protection is another matter.

  21. By georgiebird on Nov 3, 2011 | Reply

    Guys on this post are all wrong about giving Kolb and Horton more time to produce and here’s why. Kolb was brought in here because there was a window of opportunity in the NFC West. Rather than draft Gabbert or Ponder or Dalton who would take time to develop, Whiz opted for the more experienced Kolb. Kolb is 3+ to 5+ years older than Ponder, Gabbert and Dalton- each would have cost us much less.
    The NFC West is passing us by in coaching and top players. If the 49ers are for real and with Harbaugh setting his future sights on the QB position, the window of opportunity, on this division could have closed for many many years. If we lose at home to the 49ers, this division could be lost for the next 5-10 years. And don’t forget, the 49ers have been down for a few years but they have a recent tradition of excellent teams.

  22. By Darren Urban on Nov 3, 2011 | Reply

    Georgiebird —

    RE: 49ers

    So if we beat the 49ers at home, the division isn’t lost for the next 5 to 10 years?

    I know things are bad right now, but the way the NFL works these days, sorry, I just can’t say, OK, any team is done for that long.

  23. By jocards on Nov 3, 2011 | Reply

    Darren –

    RE: Skelton/Kolb

    Believe me, I’m with you there. Kolb is going to be the guy as long as he is good to go and I don’t disagree with that stance….but you know regardless of the fact that you already wrote about it, it’ll come all the same. Oh well, let’s just hope for a win any way!

  24. By GW on Nov 3, 2011 | Reply

    Skelton is ready and he will have a good game . why? because he sat last year except for4 games then the cards bring in kolb as a starter now if skelton have any chance in the nfl he must show the cards and other teams that he can be a qb in the nfl like our kolb a backup got his chance to start look good know he’s a starter with a $60 million dollar deal wow. skelton will show everyone he’s ready to play. i just hope stubborn whiz do not handcuff this kid so he wont look bad by backing more thing skelton will be the starting qb before the season over.

  25. By Scott H on Nov 3, 2011 | Reply

    Darren –

    RE: georgiebird’s post

    Wait…does that also mean that if WE beat the 49ers at home, then the division will be OURS’ for the next 5-10 years??? Man, if only we had known this sooner…

    Does this mean that the road games don’t matter at all???

  26. By AndyStandsUp on Nov 3, 2011 | Reply

    Darren, IYO, if Kolb is still gimpy on Sunday would it make more sense to make him the 3rd QB on the inactive list or Bartel?
    With the new rule, if inactivated, he could still play, but only after the third quarter without having Skelton and Richard ineligible to return. That could be a safety net because if he going to participate it would mean that both of the other guys have been hurt (unlikely) and gives his foot more time to heal.

  27. By Darren Urban on Nov 3, 2011 | Reply

    AndyStands –

    RE: 3rd QB

    Actually the new rule says youbare either active or inactive. There is one less inactive on Sundays; If a QB is inactive he can’t play, period.

  28. By AndyStandsUp on Nov 3, 2011 | Reply

    Sorry, Darren again. My source was Ed Hochuli, who you know never makes a mistake. (And Mike Pereira confirmed it, though Calvin Johnson denied it.)

    That’s twice in two nights.

    My ire is raised.
    And I still don’t like paprika.

  29. By georgiebird on Nov 3, 2011 | Reply

    Darren & Scott H,
    It’s a confidence thing. What I am saying re: 49ers is: As long as we can beat the 49ers at UoP, it will give us the confidence that we can compete. Like the 49ers could beat us when we were on top and, in turn, no 49er player ever felt we were better than them.
    Conversely, if we can’t beat the 49ers at home, it will be a long time before we have the confidence to win the division.
    See, what you guys are failing to realize is the 49ers have a great recent tradition. Yes, they were down for a while (bad coaching), but now they are (possibly) back. If Harbaugh turns out to be a great HC, yes Darren, no matter how the NFL works, the Cardinals will be looking up for a long time. The 49ers are not the poorly run Cardinals.

  30. By Darren Urban on Nov 4, 2011 | Reply

    georgie —

    RE: 49ers

    Actually, you are wrong. That’s been the knock on them ever since DeBartolo left, was that, yes, they were poorly run. Have they changed? Maybe.

  31. By georgiebird on Nov 3, 2011 | Reply


    Here’s an abridged “Ode to Darren”- hope you enjoy it.

    The football Cardinals are my team
    And the baseball Cardinals make me beam
    While the football Cardinals are a flop
    The baseball Cardinals are on top

    The football season makes me sad
    The football Cardinals are pretty bad
    But spring will come to ease the pain
    The baseball Cardinals will keep me sane

  32. By David Robles on Nov 3, 2011 | Reply

    ken wasnthunt = INSANITY


  33. By Steve Lee on Nov 3, 2011 | Reply

    I want to know if Levi will be replaced. Whoever is QB better like being sacked around left end.

  34. By cardsalltheway on Nov 4, 2011 | Reply

    Kolb sounded like a beaten man in a recent video, and I don’t blame him. He was put in a position he shouldn’t have ever held and it shows.

  35. By cardsalltheway on Nov 4, 2011 | Reply

    “Bottom line, Kolb is going to play when healthy, regardless of Skelton.
    And that’s what’s wrong with the Cardinals. Ya sure wouldn’t want to take anything away from a 1 – 6 QB for the teams sake huh? The Cardinals gambled and lost on Kolb, we drafted him instead of a rookie QB because he had a little more experience than the aforementioned but that didn’t do any good. Most early first round rookie QB’s would now be able to play as good as Kolb 7 games into the season. Forget the fact that we already had Skelton/Bartel and now have $20 million less/2012 2nd round draft pick and DRC.
    Regardless of the debate whether it’s too early to tell on Kolb, Skelton and Bartel are just as good, if not better. Ken W. and/or Co. simply do not know how to show confidence in QB’s. Most people/players know that Kolb didn’t deserve to start or be “Our Guy” immediately and will support Skelton more because he’s been around and human nature.

  36. By Marcelo on Nov 4, 2011 | Reply

    Numbers sometimes do not show What we shall see (….) even though kolb has virtually better numbers there are hundreds of others things we gotta consider that turns the tide on a game… Short missed attempts shouldn`t even be in this account, I believe Skelton has shown more what fans want to see than what Kolb does…

  37. By emm7777 on Nov 4, 2011 | Reply

    Where were all these Skelton supporters in the off-season? Kolb is exactly what he was in Philly. He throws more picks than tochdowns, and he constantly throws off his back foot in a sometimes side-arm motion. I am, of course, optimistic that Kolb can develop if Whiz can “fix his footwork”, but we all know how that has turned out in the past.

    Skelton showed true potential last year and even with a 3-9 team and poor receiver play he finished at .500

    Unfortunately, everyone was clamoring for Kolb this off season and because of the contract he will play to the last possible moment. Skelton will probably have a good career someday, with another team.

  38. By BIG RED on Nov 4, 2011 | Reply

    Just for the Heck, I’ll bet my girl friends house against your girl friends house, that Skelton does better then Kolb. I’ll even throw in her mother. Let’s have some humor and enjoy this victory, by Big John Skelton.

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