The prelim to the Doucet-Goldson scuffle

Posted by Darren Urban on November 21, 2011 – 12:51 pm

Receiver Early Doucet and San Francisco safety Dashon Goldson got into it after a play Sunday, with Goldson getting ejected after throwing a couple of punches. There was a lot of talk about the officials only catching the retaliation and not the instigator, and since Goldson didn’t talk afterward, all we were left with was Doucet’s explanation that he had been victim of a cheap shot first. Doucet said he was running his route and suddenly found himself on the ground after a Goldson hit well away from the play.

TV replays only caught Doucet taking a push/swipe at Goldson, which escalated it. The cameras didn’t catch the original play — Doucet was downfield and QB Rich Bartel was sacked on the play, so that’s where camera were concentrated — so that was all there was to go on. Turns out, the whole thing might have started with an accident.

Another video view showed Doucet cutting across the field as he said, and Goldson in deep coverage near him. Doucet was looking into the backfield hoping for a pass — but it looks like Goldson was too. Goldson moved up instinctively on the play, and it looks like Goldson never even saw Doucet at that point. Goldson cuts Doucet off — both sets of eyes still up the field. The two collided, and Doucet went down, just like he said. Certainly, Doucet didn’t see Goldson, and it is easy to understand why Doucet felt like he had received a cheap shot.

It took off from there, and Larry Fitzgerald eventually had to hold Doucet back (pictured below) to avoid getting tossed himself.

You can watch the video — the TV version — right here. (UPDATE: Goldson spoke, backing up the tape — he didn’t mean the original hit, and he lost composure after the scuffle started.)

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32 Responses to “The prelim to the Doucet-Goldson scuffle”

  1. By Rod on Nov 21, 2011 | Reply

    Always smart to try to punch a guy who is wearing a helmet. Dashon, please contact MENSA, they want you! DB stands for more than defensive back I guess…. 🙂

  2. By Chad on Nov 21, 2011 | Reply

    Looks like Early too a swing too.

  3. By MIKE G on Nov 21, 2011 | Reply

    Hey Darren–Thanks for clearing that up. I was wondering about that play. Doucet was upset. On an aside–I thought Stewart Bradley asserted himself at times yesterday. The LB’S seem to be improving. Do you think he can get more into the rotation the last 6 games????? He is a big hitter!

  4. By Darren Urban on Nov 21, 2011 | Reply

    Mike G —

    RE: Bradley

    Whiz said he thought Bradley did “all right” on defense.

  5. By D on Nov 21, 2011 | Reply

    Dear Mr. Graves;

    You might want to sign C. Campbell now because it appears every game he keeps playing well, the cost will continue to increase. This team has many holes to fill this offseason, please don’t create another one by dragging your feet with Campbell, or you will add to the list of holes to be filled.

  6. By Staff Sergeant TIm Roberts on Nov 21, 2011 | Reply

    Just like San Fran, always taking cheap shots. Cant wait until they blow it in the first round of the playoffs like normal. I wouldn’t have blamed Doucet for throwing a few more shots at that guy. Not one bit

  7. By Mikeflorio on Nov 21, 2011 | Reply

    Hahaha looks like the safety was trying to go after Fitz in that mess aswell!!

  8. By dylan on Nov 21, 2011 | Reply

    I wish Doucet would act like a professional I really think he is a good player but this immaturity really holds him back.

  9. By Rich on Nov 21, 2011 | Reply

    Despite the fact that we got beat pretty bad, this loss looks better than others. The defense was very solid (just wore down). The offensive line looked pretty good, there were receivers open, etc. This loss is on Skelton. That’s a better feeling than thinking that the whole team was not properly prepared. Actually, I’m kind of glad. Skelton will eventually develop well, but we can put the current controversy behind. Kolb is our starter and Skelton is our 2 and Bartel is our 3 and that will be the case next season as well.

  10. By Voice of Reason on Nov 21, 2011 | Reply

    I actually like his reaction. He saw the rest of his teammates getting bullied all over the field and not doing anything about it, and when he thought he was being given the same treatment, he stuck up for himself and didn’t back down. Wish more of his teammates did the same thing.

    Or better yet, be the bully. It sounds bad, but the Steelers have won games against more talented teams for years by doing just that. Ditto the Ravens and the 49ers.

    If we’re going to continue to allow ourselves to get pushed around, we’ll continue to have ZERO respect in the league (see the Vikings game, where McNabb told his team that there was no reason they couldn’t blow us out and then went out and did it) and lose a lot more than we win. Football is not a softie’s game. Our team needs to stop playing like one.

  11. By TucsonTim on Nov 21, 2011 | Reply

    Always appreciate your feedback. If I rag on you like I did about McNabb, its only because I’m trying to understand what the heck is going on. Getting info from any NFL team is like trying to understand the old KGB back in the Cold War. Lots of propaganda little substance.

    Anyway, I’m a little frustrated that we haven’t seen Alfonso except on special teams. Obviously, what you said about the drop off makes sense.

    Never could understand why a guy would try to land a bare fisted punch on a helmet. About as dumb as punching a wall. Seen plenty on broken hands from that less than intelligent move.

  12. By brad oneill on Nov 21, 2011 | Reply

    Darren I think you talked about what it would take for the 2nd round pick to fall to a third round pick that philly gets. would you either recap that or post a link. i am curious if it wouldnt make sense to hold kolb out being that our second round pick is probably going to be very valuable. Iet the foot heal, save our 2nd round pick and lock up campbell. the guy has been amazing this year.

    as for the fight, I would rather see the coach smack a few cardinals on the head if there is going to be violence. We need to bring in Kush. ha ha ha.

  13. By Darren Urban on Nov 21, 2011 | Reply

    Brad –

    RE: 2nd rndr in Kolb trade

    That pick isn’t conditional. It is a straight second rounder.

  14. By myron on Nov 21, 2011 | Reply

    This is all on Early…I’m a Cards fan all the way but they ran into each other, and Early losses his cool and so he gets up and whacks Goldson upside the head. If I was Goldson, I would have been pissed too. Early started this 100%. I’m tried to be unbiased here, and that’s what I saw and feel. No need for that kind of stuff.

    Dashon Goldson is a hitter…I remember him popping two balls out of TH and Beanie last year. You can bet he’ll be looking to light Early up on December 11th.

  15. By georgiebird on Nov 21, 2011 | Reply

    Here are some of my thoughts on the Cardinals:
    1) Offensive team speed is terrible. Each Cardinal offensive player is probably the slowest at his position in the league. This isn’t to say the players aren’t good but there are just too many rather slow players. A slow offense gives so much confidence to the defense.
    2) the defense comes up with seems like a nice effort. But there was so much yardage gained by the 9ers in the middle of the field. It would have been nice to see the 9ers punt from deep in their territory.

    Another thought on speed: last night I watched the Eagles -Giants game. It seems to me that if the teams switched backs the Giants would have won by 20 points. The Giants were preoccupied with McCoy and his speed.

  16. By IIBASEDGOD on Nov 21, 2011 | Reply

    Fitz would have whooped his @$$, if the safety did swing at him.

  17. By IIBASEDGOD on Nov 21, 2011 | Reply

    And Darren really really random lol, what size cleats does Fitz wear?

  18. By Darren Urban on Nov 21, 2011 | Reply


    RE: Fitz cleats

    No idea.

  19. By Gwalum on Nov 21, 2011 | Reply

    Really? There really are people out there who can actually defend Doucet’s actions??? Whether or not he thought someone took a cheap shot at him he is a PROFESSIONAL – getting paid millions to play. If you want to confront the perpetrator then do it to his face, don’t take a cheap swing at his head while he’s down and looking the other way. MAN UP, Doucet!

  20. By Bay Area Bad Boy on Nov 21, 2011 | Reply

    All I know is we got dominated. Coach Whiz, I hope you learned something. Coach Harbaugh put is foot up your butt knee deep. We played well in situations, but could not over come that tough Niner defense. I’m waiting to hear what coach has to say about 5-11 now. Even so, I still love my team even though I think our coach is getting out coach almost every week. In Whiz we trust, in Whiz we bust. I’m glad to see a little fight out of Duucet. Nothing is wrong with having a little chip on your shoulder. Lets Go Card.
    Finish strong or fire the coach.

  21. By Chuck 1 on Nov 21, 2011 | Reply

    The cure for the Cards:
    1) Fire Graves
    2) Fire Keim
    3) Fire the QB coach
    4) Fire the OC
    5) Fire Grimm
    And, NO. Don’t fire Whiz.

  22. By Chuck 1 on Nov 22, 2011 | Reply

    An add to my cure for the Cards:

    We all should realize that none of the above will happen.
    Graves will continue to make terrible personnel decisions e.g. don’t expect him to sign any FAs in their prime or draft OLinemen or front seven players.

  23. By TucsonTim on Nov 22, 2011 | Reply

    I meant to ask this earlier: “Thom” Brennaman constantly referred to Beaine as Chris Wells. I know Billick knows better. Thought it was a little funny that he let Brennaman do it over and over.

  24. By Alex Mullane on Nov 22, 2011 | Reply

    it was cool to see larry grap the 49ers dude and a 49ers guy grab early. shows that at least most of the two teams can agree that full on fighting is never the answer in a football game

  25. By Voice of Reason on Nov 22, 2011 | Reply

    By the way, did anybody notice who was playing corner for the 49ers — just a former first round pick that had been on the street named Carlos Rogers. Again, first round talent, seen some success in the league, yet on the street.

    They recognized a talent there, signed him short and cheap, and put him in the mix to see if he could help their team. And what do you know, he did.

    Since the season is now over, it makes no difference. But it would be nice to see that sort of mindset from our Cards on occasion. With Graves, unfortunately, it is evidently too much to ask.

  26. By Brian on Nov 22, 2011 | Reply

    I do agree some coaches and players need to be fired. The offensive coordinator calls some lousy plays. Russ Grim isn’t doing “diddly squat” as a line coach. Fire the quarterback coach and hire Kurt Warner for the QB coaching job. Not giving Anquan Boldin a new contract was the dumbest decision this franchise has made since I have been a fan.

    We’re here counting down the weeks until the next year season. That or rooting for out “second” favorite teams.

    This is sickening. Seems like the Arizona Cardinals sat themselves back 7 years. Remember those days?

  27. By KYLE on Nov 22, 2011 | Reply

    before we jump on the fire russ grimm bandwagon lets see what he can do with some good olineman for once. the coach cant block for them but only tell them who to get. the rest is up to the player.

  28. By clssylssy on Nov 22, 2011 | Reply

    Georgiebird…didn’t you happen to realize that this Eagles team you are so high on is the same team the Cards, who you can find NOTHING good about is the team we actually beat, with Skelton, last week…hmmm! Brian and anybody else join me in cheering the Ravens on Thursday to beat the stinkin 9ers followed by a beat down by the Steelers. The 9ers have always played dirty, and part of their “offense” is goading opposing players into scraps causing gain in yardage due to penalties. The thing about losing to the 9ers is a difference in losing to a team you have respect for like the Ravens or Steelers, which is a learning experience, as opposed to losing to a team where you cant wash the stink off! How about our boy Q last week…should have paid him!

  29. By Scott H on Nov 22, 2011 | Reply

    Once again, Fitz shows what a leader and a class act he is. No matter what, it’s all about the team for him. While it did not matter in terms of the final score in this game, maybe it does in another game down the road. Fitz knows that the only way you win is to stay in the game and help your team win on the scoreboard – not by “winning” in a silly individual battle with another player. LOVE the way Fitz just gets up after every catch, tosses it back to the ref, and gets back to the huddle. No dancing, no show-boating, no first down celebrations, nothing. Just right back to the game. Cannot think of a better example in pro sports today for young people to learn from than Larry Fitzgerald.

  30. By Mike on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply

    Revenge is a dish best served cold. Knocked out cold.

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