Keim still in play for St. Louis

Posted by Darren Urban on January 25, 2012 – 10:49 am

It’s been under the radar, but the news that Cardinals director of player personnel Steve Keim is supposed to interview for the Rams’ vacant general manager job Saturday means the Cards could still be heavily impacted with all these league moves going on beyond their own search for a quarterbacks coach. When Jeff Fisher was hired as head coach, conventional wisdom said his former cohort in Tennessee, Lake Dawson, had an upper hand. But as Jim Thomas, esteemed Rams beat writer, notes, Dawson just was promoted by the Titans since his St. Louis interview and that usually doesn’t happen for a guy who is about to leave.

The Rams also interviewed Ryan Grigson — brother of Cards’ scout Dru — for the job, but then Ryan Grigson was hired as Indy’s GM. Les Snead, who works for Atlanta, was also previously interviewed, and the Rams’ original list of candidates is shrinking. Recently, though, the Rams said they will look at candidates they hadn’t already asked to talk to, so that could change the Keim dynamic.

Regardless, Keim (below center, talking to long snapper Mike Leach and football administrator Justin Casey) plays a huge role in the Cards come draft time and it would affect the organization if he were to leave.

UPDATE: As “D” in the comments points out, league rules prohibit those working in personnel to be able to move between teams until after the draft. Turns out that there are rules in place for personnel men, but not for those being promoted to general manager. Keim could leave right away.

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25 Responses to “Keim still in play for St. Louis”

  1. By Rugbymuffin on Jan 25, 2012 | Reply

    Why doesn’t the Cardinals just promote……….LOL……..sorry I can’t even type it.

    Yeah, the Cardinals aren’t going to promote anyone, or give them more money to stay.

    They will just let Keim go, and get the Derek Anderson of director of player personnel.

  2. By Jesse on Jan 25, 2012 | Reply


    If Keim gets the job (I have a feeling he will), will the Cardinals FO look to promote from within or will they go outside the organization?
    If they go from within, who would be on the list to succeed Keim?

  3. By Darren Urban on Jan 25, 2012 | Reply

    Jesse —

    RE: After Keim

    I’m not sure what the next step would be, to be honest. Let’s see if Keim actually leaves.

  4. By D on Jan 25, 2012 | Reply

    Doesn’t the league have a rule that he couldn’t leave if offered until after the draft?

  5. By Darren Urban on Jan 25, 2012 | Reply

    D —

    RE: Rules

    You are correct:

    “The need to hire a head coach is more pressing in the interim as a new head coach would need to be able to make hires for his staff more quickly than a general manager. League rules dictate that personnel candidates can’t move teams until after the draft so it’s not likely the Rams’ new general manager would even be in place until April.”

  6. By SteveG on Jan 25, 2012 | Reply

    1) We HAVE a GM, where does he “promoted” to?
    2) The Cards have one of the highest paid coaching staffs in the entire LEAGUE.
    3) Ask Fitz, AW, DD etc. about being paid to stay
    4) Stop living in the 90’s, it’s embarrassing for EVERYONE having to correct your incessant stoopid!

  7. By brad oneill on Jan 25, 2012 | Reply

    what steve g said. roflmao. exactly right steve exactly right.

  8. By cdubbbbb on Jan 25, 2012 | Reply

    If he gets offered the Rams job, is he really gonna try to give us the best draft possible, knowing that right after, we will be division rivals?

  9. By Rugbymuffin on Jan 25, 2012 | Reply

    Sorry, I’d rather be an “stupid embarrassment” then blind, and gulliable.

    Two winning seasons don’t make you a dominant force. Especially, when there were opportunities to improve, and keep talent are there, and are bypass for reason that amount to $$$.

    I have never seen a organization be so celebratory about an 8-8 season. The Cardinals were an 8-8 team, and finished 8-8. That is doing the expected, nothing more.

    Our drafts have been one of the brighter spots in this organization, and letting one of your key peices walk when you have the opportunity to keep them is irresponsible.

    If you are not going to re-sign the talent you draft, then you better have great drafts from top to bottom every year to replace the talent you let walk out the door.

    Letting talent walk out the door player wise when there rookie contracts are up, and then letting drafting talent walk out the door is buring the candles at both ends.

    So go ahead. Follow blindly, but don’t complain when the Cardinals draft the next Tony Sacca, and let Daryl Washington walk out the door in a few years.

    And yes, I will continue to post my stupid/embarrassing posts. Deal with it.

  10. By Rugbymuffin on Jan 25, 2012 | Reply

    One last thing –

    Is this not the organization that was 30 MILLION under the cap less than two seasons ago ?

    That was in 2010/2010, ten years afte the 1990’s for those that need the math done.

  11. By Alvin on Jan 25, 2012 | Reply


    I just watched SportsNation, and Colin Cowherd and Kordell Stewart mentioned that if Peyton Manning gets cut, he should go to Arizona. Colin said Arizona is on the “cusp” of being really interesting.

    What do you think?

  12. By Darren Urban on Jan 25, 2012 | Reply

    Alvin —

    RE: Manning

  13. By joe67 on Jan 25, 2012 | Reply

    Rugby, love to read your comments. Its that rare blend of sad and humorous (hilarious actually) that is really hard to find. I am sure if we were totally dominant and won the next 5 SB’s in a row, you would still complain about not spending money. And, I’m also sure every team in the league has a few fans like you.

  14. By Chris Robot on Jan 25, 2012 | Reply

    Rugby —

    To be fair, certain people that have walked (ie. Dansby, Rolle) were reported to have been offered equal deals to stay and they still chose to walk.

    The history of not paying key players has been changing here for a few years now.. but I think most people can understand where you’re coming from because the team has a bad track record of losing key players and at times, not opening up the team wallet.

  15. By SteveG on Jan 25, 2012 | Reply

    Awww li’ wugby is all gwumpy……..and STILL an embarrassment!!!

  16. By Scott H on Jan 25, 2012 | Reply

    D’oh! I thought we were done with mentioning the “D” word ( Derek Anderson ) and then I tune in to this entry, and WHAMO – there it is. Please…let’s look forward. Quickly. And no more of the other “D” word, either. I ain’t even gonna mention it myself but let’s just say it’s a certain washed up QB who was last seen playing ( if you can call it that ) for the Vikings…until they saw how that was going and they became the 3rd team in 3 years to show him the door.

  17. By Scott H on Jan 25, 2012 | Reply

    darren –

    Any word on the status of Arians as a candidate for QB coach? Also, do you happen to know if there are any potential candidates currently employed by the SB participants?

    Alvin –

    Colin Cowherd and Kordell Stewart? Really? No disrespect to either, but…I wonder if these two guys say some of the things they say because they know no one is really listening.

  18. By Darren Urban on Jan 26, 2012 | Reply

    Scott H —

    RE: QB coach

    Nothing new has surfaced on that front right now.

  19. By drummer-1 on Jan 25, 2012 | Reply

    @ Scott H

    Let’s add someone with the letter L to that list also..Still have fans on the message board complaining..

  20. By BIG RED on Jan 25, 2012 | Reply

    Com’on let’s have some pitty for D. Anderson, Poor guy messed up his career more than what it was here in AZ. But I still say Max Hall was even worst, he was a joke of a QB in the NFL, never seen anybody that bad playing the QB position and probably never will again…

  21. By Rugbymuffin on Jan 26, 2012 | Reply


    This team would have to win consistently for me to know how I would react.

    I don’t know if the frustration comes for the lack of spending money, more than the lack of having, following, and then completing a plan of action.

    One year the plan is to keep the core players within the organization, and they didn’t do it.

    Another year it was to follow how other winning organization do things, ala building through the draft. Then they don’t protect the talent they have gained to do so like other winning organizations like the Ravens have done by creating a position like the Ravens did with Eric DeCosta.

    Make a plan and see it though.

    Kurt Warner is not walking through those doors. 100 years of an organizations’ history is not going to get washed away for 2 years of success.



    What ? What do you need ? Are you mad you didn’t get my attention enough ?
    That I didn’t answer your questions.


    1. You create a postion and give the man a raise for a job well done. Ala Eric DeCosta in Baltimore.

    2. Do you have a link ? Do you have the proof ? But, since you are so wise I will take you word for it. So way pay Russ Grimm a boat load of money for the job he has been doing, and I will allow anyone to have their own opinion on that. But, we will not pay Keim for the job he has done ? Who do you think has done his job in this organization better ?

    3. Sure. I will “ask” Dockett, Fitzgerald and Wilson, and be sure include Dansby, Rolle, Pace, T.Jones, Anquan Boldin, Breaston and host of others. Not to mention the dismantling of the ’08 team in a matter of 2 years.

    4. I am not living in the 90’s. Actually I don’t have to go back that far to find woefully talented teams with low total salaries. Some of the worse teams ever fielded where between 2000-2007.

    Note: This post was not written while grumpy, and is one fan’s embarrassing and stupid opinion. I call the fan police and see if this is acceptable non-embarassing post, and that I am correctly being a fan. :giggle:

  22. By Scott H on Jan 26, 2012 | Reply

    BIG RED –
    RE: Anderson / Hall

    Well, let’s not forget that Hall was a rookie playing for the first time ever in an NFL game where Anderson was / is a veteran QB with several years as a starter under his belt. From that perspective, DA was far more of a disappointment and / or embarassment ( which ever word you prefer ). AND consider this – With far fewer opportunities, Hall almost won as many games as DA did! Thankfully, it’s all water under the bridge.

    Oh, and one more thing to consider – the reason that Hall was playing in the first place was because DA was so God awful, yes? If DA had played worth a damn, we might never have seen Hall at all.

    And, actually, Caleb Hanne might get my vote for worst QB I have seen playing for an NFL team in recent memory. Man, he was bad…

  23. By Scott H on Jan 26, 2012 | Reply

    Hmmm…can we get this Keim guy a uniform? Looks like he could be a heck of an O-lineman…

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