After movie day, Whiz hopes for a result

Posted by Darren Urban on August 15, 2012 – 12:54 pm

The Cardinals got their first movie day at camp in a couple of years (it was nixed last year because of the lockout and the need for practice time). It’s been an annual thing because coach Ken Whisenhunt feels the need to take his foot off the gas pedal. He almost pulled the plug, but felt like the players’ effort Monday and Tuesday earned them a moment.

And it wasn’t as if it was a full-contact practice that was scotched. It was an hour-long walkthrough they missed and there will still be a full regular practice this afternoon at 3 p.m. The Cards have been through a lot of upheaval in the past 10 days, from Canton to Cleveland to St. Joseph to Kansas City, and they looked like it against the Chiefs — leading to this week’s intense practices.

“We haven’t handled the changes very well,” Whisenhunt said. “I thought last week we were sluggish and tired in that game. That’s something you have to adapt to. This was a change for the good for once.”

— RB Beanie Wells is sore getting back into practice. Whiz said he’ll go through pregame Friday to see if he plays. If I had to guess, I’d think he’d wait one more week.

— CB Greg Toler tweaked his knee in practice yesterday. Whisenhunt said he was sore, but it isn’t expected to be a major issue. LB Paris Lenon (ankle) isn’t ready to return yet, but that is coming soon. My thought would be that Lenon will miss one more game. No reason to rush it.

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27 Responses to “After movie day, Whiz hopes for a result”

  1. By Alex Robertson (Boundplaya) on Aug 15, 2012 | Reply

    What movie(s) did the team watch? No spoilers, please.

  2. By Darren Urban on Aug 15, 2012 | Reply

    Alex —

    RE: Movies

    The choices were Bourne, Total Recall, Campaign.

  3. By shane on Aug 15, 2012 | Reply

    Darren did you go with them?

  4. By Darren Urban on Aug 15, 2012 | Reply

    Shane —

    RE: Going to movie

    Nope. Was back here working.

  5. By T.Stone on Aug 15, 2012 | Reply

    What was the Movie? Should have been the replacements just for the word replacements. And I am not talking about the cool movie about the band, I am talking about the crappy one with Keanu Reeves. After Adrian Wilson’s comments it might be appropriate.

  6. By IMACARDINALFAN on Aug 15, 2012 | Reply


  7. By D on Aug 15, 2012 | Reply

    Too bad the Flagstaff cinema couldn’t show Raising Arizona for them….

  8. By Javier Montoya on Aug 15, 2012 | Reply

    Am I crazy or does Lindley look pretty clean? He seemed to throw a great ball and command. He’s not in the race?

  9. By D on Aug 15, 2012 | Reply

    If Kolb or Skelton don’t show up on Friday and Whiz trades for Jackson or McCoy, then I would say that desperation move should cost Whiz and Graves thier jobs.
    No QB added to the mix at this point in the season would help this team this year.
    And no QB that is either on the street or a backup on any team right now would be better than a rookie QB in next years draft that would have a clean slate.

    1) If Whiz had doubts this offseason about his QB’s, then why go out and draft a WR in round one when we all know it doesn’t matter who is at WR if we don’t have a starting QB or a Good Off Line.
    2) Graves has skated by for years with these draft picks….M. Leinart, L. Brown, DRC and it always falls on the HC, but correct me if I am wrong, doesn’t Mr. Graves have the final say over the HC and S. Keim?
    3) It’s time to try and develop a 1st round QB, like a Logan Thomas, or M. Barkley and give him time. Take the pain now. Sure, we will be having a year or two in the 3-4 win column, but if we have a young QB with promise, the fans would rather have that than winning 6-8 wins having other teams’ cast off QB’s.

  10. By AndyStandsUp on Aug 15, 2012 | Reply

    I think we all know what movie Kolb watched after this injury-filled, hot summer training camp:

    “Diary of a Wimpy Kid, Dog Days”.

    Just kidding, Kevin. Don’t be throwing a football at me or anything. (Insert punch line here.)

  11. By Chuck 1 on Aug 15, 2012 | Reply

    To Sigmund Freud:

    Based on all of the negative comments that I’ve read from Cards’ fans about Graves, Whiz, Grimm, the QBs, defense and the OL, I think that you should
    add more couches in your examining room.

  12. By dean bower on Aug 15, 2012 | Reply

    talk about Lindley starting…come on people pay closer attention to the team and the game you might learn something! lets not throw a good FUTURE prospect into the fire.

  13. By clssylssy on Aug 15, 2012 | Reply

    I noticed that the team seemed to be dragg’n in KC a bit but having lived in that area, I know how brutal the heat and humidity combo is and for teams not used to it, it has a tendency to tip the scales a bit, the same as if they were playing in New England in the snow. Considering they were road weary to boot, I thought they did OK for a preseason opener at Arrowhead…not great, but not as bad as the Cowboys or Raiders were their first week or the Giants and the Jags. Glad they got a little break to recharge will a little entertainment. GO CARDS! LET’S PRACTICE BEATING THE RAIDERS AND TITANS IN PREPARATION FOR PLUCKS THE SEACHICKENS!

  14. By DontTakeLoses on Aug 16, 2012 | Reply

    Watched tape of KC game. our boys beat at line of scrimmage, both sides, badly. We got a bunch of finesse players? Technique smecknique. Knock somebody back on their keister, Cards!!

  15. By cardsalltheway on Aug 16, 2012 | Reply

    Darren and whoever else said this week on Cardinals Underground that if K. Kolb doesn’t show up this Friday against the Raiders then he could be done. But, let me help everyone give K. Kolb an excuse even before the game starts and you let me know if it’ll be justified…?
    ‘New footballs cause concern among NFL quarterbacks’
    “The NFL is putting a new type of football into use for the second week of the preseason as an experiment, and it has been met with some opposition from players.
    The NFL has distributed balls with synthetic laces, as opposed to the traditional leather ones, for teams to practice with this week and use in this weekend’s preseason games. NFL spokesman Michael Signora said that the choice of which footballs to use in practices and games this week remains up to the teams themselves.
    A number of active, Pro Bowl-caliber quarterbacks already have lodged complaints about the newer balls to the NFLPA, claiming they can cause micro-cuts and alter a passer’s throwing motion. There is some concern among the quarterbacks that this is the first step in implementing the synthetic-lace balls full-time.”

    So Darren, have we been using the new synthetic laced ball this week?

  16. By Darren Urban on Aug 16, 2012 | Reply

    cardsalltheway —

    RE: New football

    I have no idea.

  17. By john the draft guy on Aug 16, 2012 | Reply


    Way off topic.I am not saying get him or not get him. Im just curious.

    With the “Honey Badger” being kicked off the LSU team, could he legally declare himself elligble for the NFL and become a Free Agent?

  18. By Darren Urban on Aug 16, 2012 | Reply

    John the draft guy —

    RE: Honey badger

    First he has to be three years removed from high school, not sure if he is yet. Also, he has to apply for a draft before he can be a free agent. The supplemental draft is past, so he’d have to wait until April.

  19. By georgiebird on Aug 16, 2012 | Reply

    Thanks for the movie update. It’s a ploy worth trying(again); it has little downside and the potential for more team spirit.
    Bottom line, Kurt Warner was both the best thing to happen to Whiz and the worst. The best in that Kurt got Whiz to a SB in year three. The worst, in that it emboldened Whiz into thinking he has the answers to this HC job.
    Whiz is no better than Dave McGinnis-in that Whiz is a good assistant coach. Whiz has made many bad decisions (and some good ones) that have set the Cards back many years. If Whiz is to survive (and the Bidwills are the most patient owners in the league), then Whiz should start making better decisions. Whiz has to quickly resolve the QB situation; be sure his dbs including AW can handle a good passing attack; make sure the team speed on offense is more than adequate; and be sure that Ray Horton is the right guy for the DC job (or does he need some assistance).

  20. By Darren Urban on Aug 16, 2012 | Reply

    Georgie —

    RE: Coaches

    Curious … Name me your top five head coaches in the league.

  21. By Louisville Card on Aug 16, 2012 | Reply


    I couldn’t agree more I can’t believe they are even considering McCoy and Jackson. Jackson is their third string Qb is that what they’ve sunken too? If Graves pulls off that deal Keim needs to take over.

    Who wants to have the same controversy every year and mediocre record. I love that Whiz wants to win but what’s the cost? Just take you’re losses this year and pick a qb next year and start him without the competition so he can learn without the fear of loseing his job after a few bad games.

    I don’t agree with you on them picking Floyd though I’m not sold on Tannehill enough to say he would be worth 2 first round picks. Which is why they didn’t pick him. Their weren’t any good options other than Luck and RG3. The colts weren’t trading and do you think the rams would even consider letting the cards get RG3? They’ll be picking high this year so they’ll have better options this year at qb.

    I love that Whiz is the coach I just hope he doesn’t get desperate and do something stupid it is what it is this year learn from it…

  22. By D on Aug 16, 2012 | Reply

    I don’t like SF at all, I think Harbaugh is pompous. We all know how good their Defense is, but after watching thier first unit Offense against Minn, they have the right gameplan. Granted thier QB is nothing special, but he doesn’t need to be. They are so deep at RB and their Oline creates huge holes that I could run through…and of course they have a TE that get’s open-I say let SF have this 2-3 yr run while we groom either Lindley or a QB drafted in the spring…
    (that hurts to admit)

  23. By awesomest wilson on Aug 16, 2012 | Reply

    The reason horton is surly is because this new front office is not going to deal with this crap that has been going on since warner left. It might not be ‘let’s see” after we start 0-3. And why not commit to kolb get him reps that he never got last year in the offseason? Skelton has a ceiling and he’s hit it.its one pickk per game no matter what.whiz and grim have failed miserably starting with whiz treatment of dennis green draft picks who left and never were replaced.we didn’t win the superbowl but never complained about the we lost momentum that we paid whiz for giving swagger. Whiz was brought in to keep the offense going and grim to remove the stink off the line. That line is no better than dave macs.we let all of these qbs go in the draft top oline free agents and now we have unestablished never did it players on offense with no sign of hope.I’m watching college every saturday for hope

  24. By Marcelof on Aug 16, 2012 | Reply

    Com’on folks…

    Landing another QB would be hilarious.
    Kolb hasn’t shined thoughout his stay in the desert and neither has Skelton, although Skelton has shown a talent that Kolb hasn’t.

    This QB discussion is still bearable, but fortunately it’s coming to an end. Soon.

    We cannot win with this Oline, not even with Brees under center, may it be Skelton, may it be Kolb, we ain’t gonna win playing so poorly, drafting Barkley next season and keeping the same oline? we ain’t gonna win either.

  25. By georgiebird on Aug 16, 2012 | Reply

    It would be easy to name only the winning ones. But just to play into your question, I like :
    Sean Payton
    John Fox
    Tom Coughlin
    Jeff Fisher

    Don’t like-
    Mike Smith
    Chan Gailey
    Lovie Smith
    Norv Turner
    Lovie Smith

  26. By georgiebird on Aug 16, 2012 | Reply

    That last Lovie Smith should be Marvin Lewis

  27. By Corgon on Aug 16, 2012 | Reply

    Hmmm. What has Whiz done with a good QB (ok not good, great).Lead the team to the SB, won WC game in the next year. There can’t be much more bad decision than good.
    I’m wondering what could do Belichick with D. Anderson. Or Payton with M. Hall.

    Ok, K.Kolb looks like a not so bright choice. But we needed a qb to keep Larry here and who was better last year? T.Jackson, Young, Garrard, Orton, Palmer (for that price), McNabb? Neither of them had so much success the last season.

    This team don’t need a new HC. This team need (but desperdly) a good QB.

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